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  1. #17
    TheWorker Guest

    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    Quote Originally Posted by beenie
    Ok the Worker , lets apply logic :

    first you highlight the cowardice of the Hezbollah types by "quoting" something about Hezbollah hiding amongst civilians

    Now, for $1,000 dollars ... do the targeted Israeli bombs fall in
    A. open fields
    B. the Mediteranean sea .. or .. wait for it ...
    C. CIVILIAN AREAS ??!!????


    duh ?!?!?!

    once again, i posted an article which had quotes from a UN worker. That is called having a reliable source, not cliaming you are right becuase you say so. You dont have to believe it, but you can read it and make your own decision on it. Clearly you have, but dont attack me for presenting an article.

    now, for FREE....if you fired missiles would u want them to fall in
    A. open fields
    B. the Sea
    C. areas that have hostile targets in them, with civilians around or not


    clearly you have a problem with option C, even though both sides use the same tactic, except hezbollah has bad aim so they just fall into open fields. Israel and people who live under the threat of rocket attacks everyday (Israelis for the past few years, NOT lebanese until Hezbollah acted unilateraly) choose option C because it provides them protection.

    what would u have the US do if Canada started launching rockets at NY, but they all just happened to fall into fields??? Nothing??? I dont think your answer would be nothing.

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    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWorker
    I dont think there would be anything to talk about if this were true.

    Post your source for this information.
    A foreign paper....
    http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=12643
    An American Paper...
    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...e028090271c6b1
    An Informed Observer...
    http://www.juancole.com/2006/07/isra...factories.html
    Others easily found by someone who has the intelligence to do a search...
    http://rawstory.com/comments/16735.html
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/...lebanon_israel
    http://www.waleg.com/archives/004362.html
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/de...isra-d12.shtml
    http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/.../154/index.php

    United Nations reaction....
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...283898,00.html

    Your "Israel can do no wrong" attitude is quite frankly repugnant and as long as there are people like you that stand behind Zionism "no matter what", then Israel will continue to kill civilians at random. I bet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it?
    Last edited by UserName; 07-25-2006 at 11:11 PM.

  3. #19
    TheWorker Guest

    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    A foreign paper....
    http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=12643
    An American Paper...
    http://news.newamericamedia.org/news...e028090271c6b1
    An Informed Observer...
    http://www.juancole.com/2006/07/isra...factories.html
    Others easily found by someone who has the intelligence to do a search...
    http://rawstory.com/comments/16735.html
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060715/...lebanon_israel
    http://www.waleg.com/archives/004362.html
    http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/de...isra-d12.shtml
    http://english-cyprus.indymedia.org/.../154/index.php

    United Nations reaction....
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...283898,00.html

    Your "Israel can do no wrong" attitude is quite frankly repugnant and as long as there are people like you that stand behind Zionism "no matter what", then Israel will continue to kill civilians at random. I bet that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, don't it?

    your "jump the israel supporter and put words in his mouth" stance is repugnant. Ive never once claimed to support israel no matter what.

    what i have claimed, and what NONE of your articles said otherwise , is that Israel has NOT admitted to targeting civilians.


    show us one spot in ANY of those articles where it says Israel has admitted to targeting civilians.

    thats what i love about people like you. you get so excited to to try and prove people wrong and blast others for disagreeing with you that you completely lose sight of what it is you are trying to prove.
    Last edited by TheWorker; 07-25-2006 at 11:37 PM.

  4. #20
    TheWorker Guest

    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    what makes me feel all "warm and fuzzy inside" is when people like you tell me that the poor lebanese people dont support hezbollah and the poor government cant control them. leave the people alone, its only the hezbollah badguys that target israeli towns BEFORE ANY ISRAELI STEPPED FOOT INTO LEBANON. dont think about the fact that Hezbollah wouldnt exist without the peoples support.

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    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    There will never be peace there unless Israel gives up the land.

    That's just the way it is. Israel stole their chunk of land from the palestenians and the neighboring countries don't like the superpower Israel has become, their politics and the fact that they're holding palestenians without charges. That's why they snatched the two soldiers so they could get thousands of prisoners back. They said they would release the soldiers on that condition.

    While two wrongs don't make a right...I understand why everybody over there despises Israel. They want to make a change and make a statement and this is their way of doing it.

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    Re: A side you dont hear about when they give death tolls

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWorker
    Ive never once claimed to support israel no matter what.
    Actions speak louder than words.... stupid is as stupid does.

    I understand that you will not be able to see all the Israeli atrocities that have taken place in the Middle East because you wear those blinders all the time, but maybe if we hold the proof in front of your face there is a slight possibility. Probably not, but we'll try.

    To get a full understanding, we have to go back a long time ago when the Israelis were expelled from 109 locations and the British mandate and Balfour declaration gave Israel a part of Palestine occupied then by the British forces.

    Israel or to be more precise the Israeli Zionists had their own agenda to attain their "promised land" - land between the Al Forat & the Nile Rivers - and Israel began to invade parts of Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and more parts of Palestine.

    Many wars took place against the Israeli invasions in the region, which Israel won until the October war in 1973 which it was defeated by Egypt.

    The whole issue of the current abuse over Lebanon is not the Israeli soldier issue . Israel provoked Hezbollah by crossing the Lebanese borders to aggravate matters and have Hezbollah retaliate. Lebanon is only a stepping-stone to reach Syria and Iran after it Iraq has been totally destroyed and occupied by the US.

    On BBC news yesterday, the father of the kidnapped soldier even stated that this war did not start because of one soldier, his son.

    For Israel to be able to fulfill its agenda, then it has to ensure that there are no powerful armies in the region except the Israeli army, which is backed up & fully equipped with US military weapons. Israel also has its own nuclear power station and nuclear warheads.

    I have many sources to support all that I have said if you care to check them out yourself.

    Israel’s covert operations to begin wars with their neighboring Arab countries to achieve their cause / agenda.

    From history, Israel did conduct attacks on the US harming and murdering US citizens trying to set up Arab countries in the process so that the US may start with these countries – Check the sources : USS Liberty and the Lavon affair

    Also have you heard of the Israeli Sabra & Shatila massacre in Lebanon or the Deir Yassin massacre in Palestine?

    The most recent parallel that I can think of in the Middle East, in terms of an attack on the civilians of a largely defenceless country, is Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. On that occasion, Iraq was ostracised, international sanctions were imposed and there were moves to indict the Ba'athist leaders.
    I don't suppose it will happen in this case, though the thought of Ehud Olmert, the Israel prime minister, sharing a cell with Hassan Nasrallah, the Hizbullah leader, for several years during their trial at The Hague is quite appealing.
    Last edited by UserName; 07-26-2006 at 01:03 AM.

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