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    MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    More and more people do believe that the gov set up the events of 9/11 . One person here is a writer who wrote, "Pentagon Papers". http://www.infowars.com/articles/ter...be_did_911.htm

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Yes, we'll take hte opinion of someone who hasn't been in government for the past 20 years over the experts who have said otherwise. HE is a political activist, who had "one" glorious moment in his entire history (outing that hte government knew we wouldn't win Vietnam..oh please, Joe Schmoe knew we wouldn't win Vietnam way before he realized it).

    Sorry, come up with someone who has a little more credibility; like a paper / article written by an FBI/CIA agent who has worked in the governement for the last 20 years.

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Apparently wizzy you didn't read all of this website, here is a scientist that knows what he is talking about, that it would take 5,000 degrees to melt the steel in these buildings and Jet fuel never NEVER gets this hot. Keep reading wizzy, you are LOST again!

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Ette, with every post you continue to show your ignorance on the subject. Please stop before you embarass yourself....oh wait...too late, so lets continue to prolong your embarassment:


    One thing is already against his claim of 5000 degrees (I can't access that article now, but did he say it was in farenheit or celcius? either way he is wrong:

    Steel has different melting temperatues , depending on the alloys used to make it, but the melting point of typical structural steel; ~825C (1517F)

    some steel often melts at around 1370C (2500F).

    A lot "lower" than the claim of 5000 degrees (of course no measurement used either).

    The ONLY thing in existence that has a remotely close melting point of 5000 degrees, is Osmium. It has a melting point of 3000C ( 5432 F)

    Were the buildings made from Osmium? At $100 per gram, i doubt that the WTC would have been built from this platinum based metal (Platinum has a metling point of 1772 C or 3221.6F

    So, one theory based on less than 10 minutes of FACT RESEARCH would have shown you this.

    And again, jet fuel has the optimum burning temperature of 1200 degrees F over 20 minutes. SINCE NO OFFICIAL REPORT had antyhing mentioned about MELTED STEel (Please provide a link to any claim made about melted steel), that "theory" is also shot. THE ONLY people who have CLAIMED melted STEEL have been COnspiracy theorists.

    TRY AGAIN ETTE!

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    You are too dense to understand all the facts Wiz, you are too dizzy and you're spinning in that mud of brain fog ville... you have been given too many vaccines that have eroded your thinking capacity!

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Ha ha ha ha oh that is so funny....

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ette
    You are too dense to understand all the facts Wiz, you are too dizzy and you're spinning in that mud of brain fog ville... you have been given too many vaccines that have eroded your thinking capacity!

    typical trol lresponse. When confronted with FACTS that he/she cannot refute, he/she goes onto attack the person who posted the facts (which proves that person wrong)

    Ette, you're a typical ignoramous troll. Instead of addressing the facts, you continue to attack the poster who posted the facts.

    Why wont yu address the issue at hand? YOu made the claim that the Government is covering up 9/11, however, facts prove otherwise. Facts prove that "scientist" wrong. Facts prove alot of what you say and post wrong. Why wont you address these issues?

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    wiz you have to go and read what "rawb" found a site written by amy worthington, i applauded him and the lady that wrote this article, it is about time you woke up "rip van wrinkle" you are 100 years lost from all that sleeping you have been doing. experience the knowledge starring you in the face, get that old dirty brown wax out of your ears boy. be able to comprehend physics, the logic of what happened. you look annoyingly "backwards" are you that "slow" must i repeat myself and others to you do you comprehend? are you afraid to read what "amy worthinton" wrote what "rawb" posted are you afraid to deny the truths? former german minister andreas von buelow, explained to the entire world, got that wiz, the entire world he told this too but you were still sleeping as "rip van wrinkle" the complex 9/11 was impossible with out us government and corporate backing, they were involved. hey rip wiz van wrinkle, hate to wake you up but rub your eyes and get that waxy substance outta of your eyes and ears. steven jones a brigham young physics professor, hey wiz rip van wrinkle are you "up" the alarm is ringing can you hear it? said that the pre-positioned explosives detonated in precise sequences were necessary to bring the trade center building down. wiz rip van wrinkle did you read that? A jetliner can not disappear into a hole with out leaving wreakage at the pentagon. it was a "hole" there was not the size of an jetliner. wiz rip van wrinkle" what type of glasses do you wear? if you are not wearing glasses, i suggest you get your eyes checked, i suggest that you get extra strong eye glasses put in like magnifying type stronger than bio-focals. the larger than life type those "nerdy"type of glasses. i suggest you go to a ear doctor and get hearing aids, mega batteries you need, your hearing is "off" and go see a "shrink" and ask the doctor, why you do not have a brain and why you can't comprehend logic, reasoning, and understanding. since you enjoy expressing yourself you could get a job being a "blooper" you have the ability to be a notorious "blooper" . as soulbro says, you is a liar and liars never can tell the truth. any evidence you have is not realistic! get your own website and tell others you enjoy "bs" heheahhahe

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    ..."wiz you have to go and read what "rawb" found a site written by amy worthington"...
    ............
    ................Yo galaxy,THE wizbag ain't worth anything but and ass kicking Period Don't reason with him, but beat his ass. ill back you up! Wiz is not here to debate, but to to lie and distort! JUST Tell the Truth and lets beat his Ass! I Will BEAT ur Ass WIZ! :cool:

    You Lie So Much About 911! YOU GOT a sh!t load of blood to cover,!! dont you wizbag? !! U sorry mf,SOB!!!

    (uh HHHHHpaula, WIZ, he needs/WANT'S HIS blow job! ...NOW!!!) :eek:

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    wiz did you hear that yodling my way to your sleeping ears oooohhhhhhhhh wiz full of "bs" he is just like his brother "pms paula" crying and hiding in their boat of "bs" reminds me of his bigger brother gwb

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    what galaxy? what did you say? Oh yeah... ignore list.

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizywyg
    what galaxy? what did you say? Oh yeah... ignore list.
    You're not missing much. Just typical "attack the poster... not the post" tactics.

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    ur wrong wiz

    Figures dont lie wiz but liers sure can figure! A Big wiz lie>>> ..."Steel has different melting temperatues , depending on the alloys used to make it, but the melting point of typical structural steel; ~825C (1517F)

    but the melting point of typical structural steel; (1517F) No wiz nothing made of steel can melt at 1517F

    SO What's the melting point of steel?

    That depends on the alloy of steel you are talking about. The term alloy is almost always used incorrectly these days, especially amongst bicyclists. They use the term to mean aluminum. What the term alloy really means is a mixture of metals, any kind of metals. Almost all metal used today is a mixture and therefore an alloy.

    Most steel has other metals added to tune its properties, like strength, corrosion resistance, or ease of fabrication. Steel is just the element iron that has been processed to control the amount of carbon. Iron, out of the ground, melts at around 1510 degrees C (2750F). Steel often melts at around 1370 degrees C (2500F).


    The simple facts of temperatures:

    * 1535C (2795F) - melting point of iron
    * ~1510C (2750F) - melting point of typical structural steel
    * ~825C (1517F) - maximum temperature of hydrocarbon fires burning in the atmosphere without pressurization or pre-heating (premixed fuel and air - blue flame)

    Diffuse flames burn far cooler.
    Oxygen-starved diffuse flames are cooler yet.

    The fires in the towers were diffuse -- well below 800C.
    Their dark smoke showed they were oxygen-starved -- particularly in the South Tower.

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    Re: ur wrong wiz

    Excerpted from
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mild_steel
    Plain-carbon steel is a metal alloy, a combination of two elements, iron and carbon, where other elements are present in quantities too small to affect the properties. Steel with a low carbon content has the same properties as iron, soft but easily formed. As carbon content rises the metal becomes harder and stronger but less ductile.

    Typical compositions of carbon are:

    Mild (low carbon) steel: 0.05% to 0.26% (e.g. AISI 1018 steel)
    Medium carbon steel: 0.29% to 0.54% (e.g. AISI 1040 steel)
    High carbon steel: 0.55% to 0.95%
    Very high carbon steel: 0.96% to 2.1%

    Steel can be heat-treated which allows parts to be fabricated in an easily-formable soft state. If enough carbon is present, the alloy can be hardened to increase strength, wear, and impact resistance. Steels are often wrought by cold-working methods, which is the shaping of metal through deformation at a low equilibrium or metastable temperature.

    Metallurgy
    Mild steel is the most common form of steel as its price is relatively low while it provides material properties that are acceptable for many applications. Mild steel has medium carbon contents (up to 0.3%) and is therefore neither extremely brittle nor ductile. It becomes malleable when heated, and so can be forged. It is also often used where large amounts of steel need to be formed, for example as structural steel.
    Carbon steels which can successfully undergo heat-treatment have a carbon content in the range of 0.30% to 1.70% by weight. Trace impurities of various other elements can have a significant effect on the quality of the resulting steel. Trace amounts of sulfur in particular make the steel red-short. Low alloy carbon steel, such as A36 grade, contains about 0.05% sulfur and melts around 1426-1538 C (2600-2800 F).

    Hardened steel usually refers to quenched or quenched and tempered steel.
    Some steel properties:
    (melting point listed for Stainless only)
    http://efunda.com/materials/alloys/a...properties.cfm

    The issue of "melting point" is irrelevant. As mentioned in Wiz's post:
    Quote Originally Posted by Wizywyg
    ...NO OFFICIAL REPORT had antyhing mentioned about MELTED STEel...
    If you can produce an Official report stating the supporting steel melted please do so or provide a link to it. I'd like to read it.

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    MORE BELIEVE wiz lies a lot too

    more wizwag >>>>>"....antyhing mentioned about MELTED STEel..."<<< :D

    THATS GOOD!
    Paula adding (nothing) color >>>>>"....The issue of "melting point" is irrelevant. As mentioned in Wiz post:...<<< ;)

    Gosh Paula whats there to say, ur just too handy.
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    MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov ?

    TRUE* OR FALSE figures dont lie, remember?
    So ette is 100% correct
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    wiz>>>>> Sorry, come up with someone who has a little more credibility; like a paper / article written by an FBI/CIA agent who has worked in the governement for the last 20 years.<<<

    Start with Ray McGovern 27 years CIA.

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    Re: MORE BELIEVE 9/11 Set up by Gov

    Who knows Ray then?

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