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  1. #1
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    Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Any opinions on "the secrets of the big dogs"? I know they've been around for sometime... does it work and does it work for any product?

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Very rude responses I have received from the author and the one who was selling it as an affiliate (Jerry Kurylo). I asked the author if I can buy a hardcopy and I got a telling off instead that it is advertised as a E Book and this what they have and other harsh words. No politeness! I then asked this man Jerry Kurylo how many pages was the ebook? His response was that it was the dumbest question in all year. (So, he has been TRYING to sell for only a year. he wants quick bucks!!). I told him off and said that he found it to be the dumbest question bec it was sold by a dumb person! What a stupid man and told him so. I wanted to know how much printing I will have to do as I prefer reading long material off-line. All you will get back after purchase is RUDENESS!!! Be careful. If they cannot handle pre-sales, do you think they will be able to do so after sales. NO!!!
    The author is Stan Stuchiniski and i do not know if he replied or his staff. But it shows they are awful to deal with.
    Last edited by sarahuk; 10-22-2006 at 05:46 PM.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Several Reasons to purchase "Big Dog Secrets" today:

    You'll know what it takes to retire within 6 months.
    One of the most ridiculous claims I ever heard.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    To Boris96 - Why are you saying this??? Make it qualified with a valid reason than just making such a weak claim!!! Or as usual you want to be silly and provocative with your unfounded comments!!!

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by sarahuk
    To Boris96 - Why are you saying this??? Make it qualified with a valid reason than just making such a weak claim!!! Or as usual you want to be silly and provocative with your unfounded comments!!!
    Remember you are not only one who is reading this thread. My comment is more for forum insiders than for you. You do not pay anybody here to answer your questions. Therefore anybody can post their thoughts in your thread(even without proof) if they are on topic(not spam).

    Some "get rich quick" claims are so outlandish they have to be mocked. If you noticed "Big Dogs" has no product. At least they do not discuss it on their website. You should always run away from MLM who have no unique product. What they will sell you is e-book which is not a membership in MLM. This e-book is usually promotional tool to get you to pay membership amount of which is not disclosed on website.

    Now about what they are really selling. They promise to teach you how to get 20 000 leads a day and 100 thousands targeted e-mails. But they also have section on their website called Marketing Tools(Clickbank product directory). Why do you need other marketing tools if "Big Dogs" have so many automatic leads? My conclusion is that after they sign you up for their MLM, they will tell you to sell Clickbank products. But you can sell Clickbank products yourself without paying any middleman a fee. That a beauty of Clickbank(and its mostly scammy products(my personal opinion)).

    And about automated 20 000 leads. Ask people on this website who have been in MLM if they provide automated leads? I wish I could see reactions on their faces.

    Possibility #2. There is no MLM. The whole "Big Dogs" e-book is about haw to get rich by selling their e-book or other related e-books.

    If you look at their address it is not business or residents. it is a Post Box. I think you are not supposed to show ID to rent a box. "Big Dog" is totally untraceable.
    Last edited by borisf96; 10-24-2006 at 06:28 PM.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by sarahuk
    To Boris96 - Why are you saying this??? Make it qualified with a valid reason than just making such a weak claim!!! Or as usual you want to be silly and provocative with your unfounded comments!!!
    Ok, so someone being mean to you is a VALID reason? NO!!! Look, Boris and other members here have experience in these get rich quick schemes and give the same proof everytime!! So instead of trying to bash a Senior member here why don't you spend that time researching to find out why it is a scam so that you can soon learn to recognize them!!! Being able to retire in 6 months..lol...I mean come on, how can you believe that?!?!? IF that was the case don't you think everyone would be doing it?? YES!! Word travels fast, so if a program comes out to were people are actually able to retire in 6 months, you will definately hear about it pretty quick!!

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    From sarahuk: I need to clarify something now. I thought Boris96 was bashing me for stating the rude experience i had with Secret Dogs (ebook). But instead he was actually making a claim to the quote in the box, probably taken from the Secret dogs website........nothing to do with my remarks above his!! I did not see that box in italics and that is what he was referring to. My apologies to him.

    This was the quote:
    Several Reasons to purchase "Big Dog Secrets" today:
    You'll know what it takes to retire within 6 months.


    The box with "sayings" (quotes, proverbs or "food for thought") needs to be modified and made it BOLD for weak eyesight. We do not get much natural sunlight in Europe at present, for computer screen viewing. We are solely dependent on electrical lighting which causes reflection onto the computer screen and I did not see these italics as it is in that box.
    Last edited by sarahuk; 10-25-2006 at 01:19 AM.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    I’m a former Alpha Dog who got involved with the program
    in July 2003, even though did sell 20 e-books and had 5 Alpha Dogs
    in 5 months time, never really did get anywhere with it.

    My people couldn’t sell nothing so they all quit gradually,
    let’s face it, how long can someone dish out over $ 200.00 per
    month when they don’t get results.

    For the last two years I’ve been trying to save these new poor souls
    who gets into the program and trying to warn them about the big changes
    in the FFA world, a few did follow my advices and they’re still around today
    but the majority have failed miserably mainly because they couldn’t accept
    the truth, especially when it came from someone like myself who has a funny
    foreigner accent without ant English school.

    Anyways, a few will always do good (at least they say ) do to their writing
    skills will always be able to sell a good number of e-books on a monthly base
    to offset the steady quitters. If you don’t believe me just do this to verify;
    click on their hyperlink in their emails, if it re directs to the book buying page
    it means they’re active, if you end up to Adminder main page it simply means
    they’re gone bye bye. (credit card is maxed out )

    Visit this forum for more Big Dogs stuff before you decide
    to anything with that kind of advertising:

    http://www.howtocorp.com/cgi-bin/web...g.pl/read/1088

    To anyone who needs more proofs, contact me personally and I will
    provide you with anything you need to back up my posting to this page.
    Hosting or Posting to FFA sites only works if you know what it takes
    to develop relationships and friendships with other marketers.

    The recruiting mentality created by the Gurus will lead many good folks
    into failure. That’s a fact!
    Visit my site below and check it out for yourself.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Secrets of the big dogs has been around a while, if you're talking about this site
    http://bigdogsecrets.com/

    I love the burning graphics. Pretty sweet.

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    the flaming graphics are FREE and available at the following address,along with loads of other cool effects:

    http://www.flamingtext.com/general/s...-&create=Go%21

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    Re: Secrets of the Big Dogs: Any opinions

    Hi Real Straight Shooter,

    Unless this is a joke, there’s only one big dogs link like yours
    and it should belong to Stan Stuchinsky himself.
    Most of ones I see around are masked through an Adminder
    and Tinyurl”s services and they all look something like this:
    http://tinyurl.com/zj3kf

    I’ve seen hundreds of these links in the past do to my
    FFA submissions, for the first few months they all redirect
    to the e-book sales page, then eventually and systematically
    they all go to Adminder.com main page.

    Why is that?

    Why so many marketers take the time to write a very
    convincing ad and then their links takes me to Adminder.com?

    You and I both know the reason why don’t we?

    For the readers of this forum you can find out more about
    the why from below.

    Did you know that a good majority of the big dogs affiliates
    cannot even copy and paste those pre written ads out of
    their training manuals? I’ve just talked to someone recently
    who had to type them all over from their computer.

    No wonder their Tinyurl’s goes straight to Adminder.com
    in a few months, without any help and leadership from up line
    on the basics of internet marketing they don’t stand a chance
    to last in the internet jungle.

    Most of them are just like babies left in the woods with no
    chance to survive.


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