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  1. #1

    AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Hi there,

    Just sharing my experience - I bought guaranteed members from AffiliatePros.net a few months ago - have seen no results - including even free members - at this rate it would take years, if ever, to get these paid members.

    When I ask for a refund, the owner asks me to send a link to the site he is to promote for me. I sent this link on numerous occassions yet the owner says that he never received the link and therefore will not give me a refund as a result.


    Very convenient that he gets my other emails, but not the emails with the link!

    Needless to say, he has not given me a refund.

    Here is a link to another reported problem with AffiliatePros.net - who knows how many cases go unreported:

    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff197708.htm

  2. #2
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    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Affiliatepros.net has owed me $500 since January 2006 for services never received.

    I have put in a compaint to the following sites:

    http://www.bbb.org/
    http://www.consumer.gov/sentinel/

    I suggest you do the same and we can stop this fraudster trading.

  3. #3

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Thanks - I will do that.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Mark - asked you a few times to redo the order, as I cannot do Gambling sites or sales, and somehow it got through the system, so it sat in a dogpile until it was investigated closer. So please take care of that, and send me a LINK to an affiliate program or sales page of something other than gambling. I am not sure why you never get our emails, or if you have us blocked. I apologize your order has been in so long, but this is why it never worked. I also realize it was approved, and I admit I am not sure why that happend on our end.


    Greenapple - not sure what your link is , just noticed this post, but if you get with us, we will see whats going on with your order.

    Also, for the record: If your going to order anything online, ensure you understand the terms conditions first, you can't make up these because its the internet, if you purchase from a company, you are liable as well as that company to stick to these terms. Plus, this will cause NO PROBLEMS or FEWER problems in the future.

    Unfortunatly I have to puruse the net sometimes to find problems, and then answer in the forums. Happens sometimes, but 99% of the time, any problems we have are taken care of via email.

    You both know our website, so please contact us immediatly to get this right.

    If you have reported us, thats fine too, part of doing business online with MLM and Sales People.

    Thanks
    Wayne

  5. #5
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    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    C'mon Wayne, this is the first time you have mentioned that you cannot do gambling sales and its taken you 16 months to mention it. You promised me a refund in August last year and again in September. You even took my Moneybookers account details.
    Apart from sending you ordinary emails, I have also emailed you via the forms on your site, to which I have never received an answer. Why on earth would I block your emails? Do you intend sending me a refund as promised?

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Mark - as you know, I am working your refund, but wanted to let you know this (in the publics eye more or less)

    You may or may not know this, but affiliatepros.net has been ripped off for over $55,000 USD since 2003, from credit card fraud, illegal chargebacks, stolen credit cards, phishing (using our site to collect monies without our knowledge and obviously you know what can happen if you think that through) and much more.

    Half the time I dont even get EMAILS from people, and have complained to my hosting about that, and get the same response all the time, yet, we move on, we do close orders, and we do have repeat buyers. I guess in any business , you have to take the storms with the calm.

    I will get you the remainder of the refund soon. I just wish PEOPLE would READ terms and conditions, but unfortunatly they are a joke to many consumers. Its much easier to NOT ORDER because you read the terms first and didnt like what you read, than to ORDER and complain later. This is not against you Mark, we did blow it our end too, it would just be less headache and hassle if folks would read or even ask before ordering, especially in the advertising market.

    Wayne

  7. #7

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    OK, Wayne. I have sent you numerous emails regarding our payment for the PAID signups. And yes, I realize that it has not been nearly 18 months like our friend above. I also know that you have received and viewed the emails sent to you.

    A simple response and explanation is very much in order if you value you your clients.

    Admin
    MandalayMillions

  8. #8
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    Dec 2004
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Hello

    Mark - sent another 100

    Mandalay - We emailed you over 15x's - and now your website is DOWN because its changing servers causing us to loose money on advertising your website. You are not receiving any of our emails at all as well... And now your on Scam dot com - I love the internet and MLM --

    Anyway - maybe you will need to communicate through scam.com for your order - might as well... everything is a scam online anyway, so lets meet here...


    Here is an entire list of emails we sent you..

    4/18/2007 (Send 12 times same day to you )
    NEED RESPONSE


    I have sent this request at least 6 times. PLEASE RESPOND.





    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions

    4.9.2007

    Hello

    Thank you for your order (Please send screenshot or current geneology totals)

    Allow 5 to 7 days for processing

    Wayne
    Support


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:35 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions



    4.11.2007
    Hello

    We are actually in need of your backoffice details - temp password or snapshot of your geneology as per our terms.

    As of this time we do not have logins for paid signups. We will send you server information on your order every 10 days or upon request.

    Thank you for your order
    Wayne
    Support
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:50 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions



    4.12.2007

    Hello

    Update on Signup Order

    As you may or may not know, we are using Email Drops for our
    orders to fill. We have had success and continue to have success
    with this type of marketing. But during the holidays and spring/summer months
    things start to slow down online and other forms of advertising can do much
    better.

    We have teamed up with some good advertising partnerships and expect our
    campaigns to really pick up steam in the next month to month and a half.

    Seeing that all our advertising is GENERIC, the product, company play a major
    roll in speed of signups/sales. The Better the Adcopy from your company, the
    faster the signup process.

    Again, please view the terms at: www.affiliatepros.net/Terms.html
    The PAID SIGNUPS information is in there as well.

    This is guaranteed advertising and we do what we need to do in order to
    finish your order.

    If you have NOT sent us one of the following, please do so in the next
    7 days:
    a. screenshot of your current geneology
    b. copy and paste your geneology and send
    c. a temp password and username
    We need updates at least once a month.
    This will ensure your URL gets the views and signups you paid for.

    Respectfully,
    The Support Team
    Affiliatepros.net



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:44 PM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions


    4.16.2007


    We track the signups, please view the TERMS
    we need a copy of your current back office or
    a snapshot or copy and paste your downline so
    we can view the signups .

    We need this about once every 10 or 13 days

    Thank you
    Support

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:57 PM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions


    4.17.2007

    We've send you many emails

    Wayne
    Affiliatepros.net
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:12 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Mandalay
    OK, Wayne. I have sent you numerous emails regarding our payment for the PAID signups. And yes, I realize that it has not been nearly 18 months like our friend above. I also know that you have received and viewed the emails sent to you.

    A simple response and explanation is very much in order if you value you your clients.

    Admin
    MandalayMillions
    Just noticed the 18 Months in your statement above!! You just ordered
    as per your email , and our records as follows:

    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT

    April 9th 2007 was not 18 months ago

    Look, do me a favor - and tell me if you want me to get you paid signups or not, ok? I dont have time to play games

    Thanks
    Wayne

  10. #10

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by waynegm
    Hello

    Mark - sent another 100

    Mandalay - We emailed you over 15x's - and now your website is DOWN because its changing servers causing us to loose money on advertising your website. You are not receiving any of our emails at all as well... And now your on Scam dot com - I love the internet and MLM --

    Anyway - maybe you will need to communicate through scam.com for your order - might as well... everything is a scam online anyway, so lets meet here...


    Here is an entire list of emails we sent you..

    4/18/2007 (Send 12 times same day to you )
    NEED RESPONSE


    I have sent this request at least 6 times. PLEASE RESPOND.





    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions

    4.9.2007

    Hello

    Thank you for your order (Please send screenshot or current geneology totals)

    Allow 5 to 7 days for processing

    Wayne
    Support


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To: Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 10:35 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions



    4.11.2007
    Hello

    We are actually in need of your backoffice details - temp password or snapshot of your geneology as per our terms.

    As of this time we do not have logins for paid signups. We will send you server information on your order every 10 days or upon request.

    Thank you for your order
    Wayne
    Support
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 5:50 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions



    4.12.2007

    Hello

    Update on Signup Order

    As you may or may not know, we are using Email Drops for our
    orders to fill. We have had success and continue to have success
    with this type of marketing. But during the holidays and spring/summer months
    things start to slow down online and other forms of advertising can do much
    better.

    We have teamed up with some good advertising partnerships and expect our
    campaigns to really pick up steam in the next month to month and a half.

    Seeing that all our advertising is GENERIC, the product, company play a major
    roll in speed of signups/sales. The Better the Adcopy from your company, the
    faster the signup process.

    Again, please view the terms at: www.affiliatepros.net/Terms.html
    The PAID SIGNUPS information is in there as well.

    This is guaranteed advertising and we do what we need to do in order to
    finish your order.

    If you have NOT sent us one of the following, please do so in the next
    7 days:
    a. screenshot of your current geneology
    b. copy and paste your geneology and send
    c. a temp password and username
    We need updates at least once a month.
    This will ensure your URL gets the views and signups you paid for.

    Respectfully,
    The Support Team
    Affiliatepros.net



    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 1:44 PM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions


    4.16.2007


    We track the signups, please view the TERMS
    we need a copy of your current back office or
    a snapshot or copy and paste your downline so
    we can view the signups .

    We need this about once every 10 or 13 days

    Thank you
    Support

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:57 PM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions


    4.17.2007

    We've send you many emails

    Wayne
    Affiliatepros.net
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Admin
    To:
    Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:12 AM
    Subject: Paid Signups


    Dear Affiliate Pros,



    We have sent payment in the amount of US$120.00 through e-Gold:



    Batch Number: 79031009

    From: 3104544 (Mandalay Investment Holdings)

    Date/Time: April 9, 2007 / 17:27 GMT



    The program we promote is http://www.MandalayMillions.com



    We understand that we shall receive a minimum of 15 direct paid signups.



    Please inform us of how to track this process for analysis in future advertising considerations.



    Thank you,

    Admin

    MandalayMillions

    Ok, I responded to the email you sent via the other email address, but don't know if you received it. Let's see what we can do to work together. I really hated coming here because I truly believe that 99% of what is begun online starts out, at least, in an honest effort to create something good for everyone. Greed, poor judgment and bad management are probably the causes of most failures. And, just for the record, when you have delivered, I will RUSH back here to let everyone know that this customer has been satisfied.

    Also, try using this email address for future communications admin@MandalayInvestmentHoldings.com or admin@LVMSOnLine.com alternatively, you may use the "Support Ticket" link on the website for MandalayMillions


    So, here is a screen shot of a member genealogy. You can take note that this member only has 6 direct referrals and the rest of his 450 downline are from spill over.

    Total referrals in payable downline: 450
    Direct referrals: 6 [view]

    Current balance: $23.00
    Total income: $322.00
    Including bonuses: $97.00


    Earnings by levels:

    Level 1 - referrals: 2, income: $1.00
    Level 2 - referrals: 4, income: $2.00
    Level 3 - referrals: 8, income: $4.00
    Level 4 - referrals: 16, income: $8.00
    Level 5 - referrals: 32, income: $16.00
    Level 6 - referrals: 64, income: $32.00
    Level 7 - referrals: 81, income: $40.50
    Level 8 - referrals: 62, income: $31.00
    Level 9 - referrals: 51, income: $25.50
    Level 10 - referrals: 29, income: $14.50
    Level 11 - referrals: 19, income: $9.50
    Level 12 - referrals: 8, income: $4.00
    Level 13 - referrals: 8, income: $4.00
    Level 14 - referrals: 11, income: $5.50
    Level 15 - referrals: 16, income: $8.00
    Level 16 - referrals: 21, income: $10.50
    Level 17 - referrals: 10, income: $5.00
    Level 18 - referrals: 4, income: $2.00
    Level 19 - referrals: 4, income: $2.00
    Level 20 - referrals: 0, income: $0.00

    Admin
    MandalayMillions

  11. #11

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Hmmm, No response to any of the email addresses.

    Still waiting for some information.

    Mandalay

  12. #12

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Back to the top with this. STILL NO CONTACT OR ORDER FULFILLMENT.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Mandalay

    1. Your website is NEVER UP - you cannot get signups to a website that is never up and running. http://www.MandalayMillions.com

    If I click or cut and paste this website I get:
    Site error: the file /home/httpd/vhosts/mandalaymillions.com/httpdocs/logi_engine_1_0/functions.php requires the ionCube PHP Loader ioncube_loader_lin_4.3.so to be installed by the site administrator


    2. Your email must work in conjunction with your website - it never receives anything as well

    Would you like a good host or php programmer that can actually keep your website up and running for more than 5 minutes? I know a few that can help

    Back to the bottom
    Wayne

  14. #14

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Hi Wayne,

    Yes, we have had some tech issues lately and they will be resolved very quickly. I would however, like to have contact with you via the email addresses I provided.

    Thanks,
    Mandalay

  15. #15
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    8

    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Here's my update from dealing with www.affiliatepros.net and dealing with the owner Wayne. I lost 1 major member of my downline and 3 others due to ineffective advertising from Wayne, alot of bs promises that were just smoke and mirrors. Promises were made from Wayne, not followed through & now he's ignoring my calls...get this...$500 L-O-S-T...how odd.

    I didnt get the original service I requested, Wayne demanded $4,000 to run the guaranteed signups but I reluctantly said 'No". Wayne was paid a total of $606 Canadian - service was a dud so we settled for another offer...guaranteed signups USA+ 500 quantity!

    Wayne assured they were ALL double opt in, meaning E-V-E-R-Y email was verified...now I am getting emails from Paris Hilton, blow job, Tongue You, Alec Baldwin...which is expected from FREE signups...but here's the kicker, the emails I am getting are, and I quote: fsds@fsds.com, adsa@dfdsa.com Thanks Wayne, real verified!

    Wayne, when you read this I have 17/31 free signups that are duds so far in "1-Week". These I will send them back to you. There are still 469 leads to receive - how much longer are you going to ignore my phone calls?

    My partner dropped you and your services but let you keep the $500 USD providing you transer the remaining over to my link - you have not done so. I would never pay for these services and suggest anyone reading this - take caution & ask for references from Wayne.

    Get your act in gear, respond to your customers and stop screwing us over.

    I will update in due course if this is resolved.

    Sean T.
    www.thishelpspeople.com/oneyearplan

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    USA
    Posts
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    Re: AffiliatePros.net 'Guaranteed Members' Scam

    Hello,

    If you order from here expect to wait...years!!

    Yep, i'm just so mad on getting the runaround. Paid Over $600 over a year ago for 2 different campaigns. Well needless to say I couldn't afford to stay in 1 and had to opt out after 10 months without getting the promised signups. My gosh you would think 30 days would be a reasonable amount of time to at least get 1 signup. As to this date - 0 on the other campaign.
    When i emailed APros a few months ago to request a refund he offered to send me leads, that wasn't our agreement, i would of bought leads elsewhere if that was what i wanted! I don't have time to work leads, that was the whole idea behind paying to have signups join.
    I will just send my backoffice details every month and will keep posting here, and send inquiry emails. Untill i get my signups or a refund.

    I would not recommend this company to anyone.

    Stay cool,
    its4u
    Last edited by its4u; 07-29-2007 at 02:45 AM. Reason: typo

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