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    Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    Mr. Leo Feng in charge of Administrative/Financial dept offered me a job in which I would handle the checks withdraw my percentage and submit the rest of the funds via Western Union. I received my first check today in which I would do just that. I called the bank listed on the check to verify for authenticity. The bank found the check to be fraudulent. Don't deposit or cash out the check. Or simply don't do business with these companies and always always double verify for authenticity. No one really ever gets paid for doing nothing.

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    Re: Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    looks like the person that sent you bad check is not associated with Ecplaza.net, which was first registed in 1997.

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    Re: Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    Don't go for it, the only thing they want is for you to out the check in your account send them the money and your account will go bad. You will have to pay all that money back.

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    Re: Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    i recieved a payment too. i made a stupid mistake to deposit it yesterday and now it is on hold. what should i do . please help

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    Re: Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    don't take the cash out. on monday, call or go to bank and explain that you think you were tricked. if you report the suspicious transaction, rather than them finding it, it may go better for you.

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    Re: Wisdom Trade Co. / Ecplaza.net

    Quote Originally Posted by junaidnajeeb View Post
    i recieved a payment too. i made a stupid mistake to deposit it yesterday and now it is on hold. what should i do . please help
    As long as you have NOT withdrawn any cash, you should be ok. WALK into you bank on Monday and explain that you now know that the check you deposited was fake. Explain to the teller that you didn't know that the check was fake when you deposited it but do now. You might still have to pay the $20-50 bounced check fee but that is much less than the hundreds or thousands you could have been out.

    Then, do NOT respond to that scammer's emails, calls or texts. Just delete his emails, unread.

    That scammer will demand you cash that large fake check sent on a stolen UPS/FedEx billing account number and send most of the "money" via Western Union or moneygram back to the scammer posing as the "supply company" while you "keep" a small portion. When your bank realizes the check is fake and it bounces, you get the real life job of paying back the bank for the bounced check fees and all the bank's money you sent to an overseas criminal.

    Western Union and moneygram do not verify anything on the form the sender fills out, not the name, not the street address, not the country, not even the gender of the receiver, it all means absolutely nothing. The clerk will not bother to check ID and will simply hand off your cash to whomever walks in the door with the MTCN# and question/answer. Neither company will tell the sender who picked up the cash, at what store location or even in what country your money walked out the door. Neither company has any kind of refund policy, money sent is money gone forever.

    When you refuse to send him your cash he will send increasingly nasty and rude emails trying to convince you to go through with his scam. The scammer could also create another fake name and email address like "FBI@ gmail.com", "police_person @hotmail.com" or "investigator @yahoo.com" and send emails telling you the job is legit and you must cash the fake check and send your money to the scammer or you will face legal action. Just ignore, delete and block those email addresses. Although, reading a scammer's attempt at impersonating a law enforcement offical can be extremely funny.

    Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

    You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

    Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

    Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

    6 "Rules to follow" to avoid most fake jobs:
    1) Job asks you to use your personal bank account and/or open a new one.
    2) Job asks you to print/mail/cash a check or money order.
    3) Job asks you to use Western Union or moneygram in any capacity.
    4) Job asks you to accept packages and re-ship them on to anyone.
    5) Job asks you to pay visas, travel fees via Western Union or moneygram.
    6) Job asks you to sign up for a credit reporting or identity verification site.

    Avoiding all jobs that mention any of the above listed 'red flags' and you will miss nearly all fake jobs. Only scammers ask you to do any of the above. No. Exceptions. Ever. For any reason.

    If you google "fake check cashing job", "fraud Western Union scam", "money mule moneygram scam" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near-victims of this type of scam.

    Again, do NOT respond to that scammer, he will eventually go away but only if you never answer his emails, texts or calls. Responding, replying or "telling him off" in any way will simply encourage him to send nasty, rude emails containing empty threats to you and your family.
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