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    The Real Meaning Of 2012 * Possibly )

    This is the most realistic explanation I have found. Found this after watching an episode on the science channel last night that was showing the same thing. Excellent reading. It does NOT say that the world will end.

    http://www.alignment2012.com/fap2.html

    This is the very last paragraph.

    The ancient Maya noticed that the winter solstice sun was slowly moving towards the Milky Way. Two great markers in the sky were converging, presenting a rare celestial juncture. Their calendar accurately tells us when this will occur, and it meant more than the birth of a new solar year. It meant the beginning of a new Great Cycle of time, the resetting of the great celestial star-clock of precession and, perhaps, an unprecedented shift in the nature of human consciousness and civilization
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer View Post
    This is the most realistic explanation I have found. Found this after watching an episode on the science channel last night that was showing the same thing. Excellent reading. It does NOT say that the world will end.

    http://www.alignment2012.com/fap2.html

    This is the very last paragraph.

    The ancient Maya noticed that the winter solstice sun was slowly moving towards the Milky Way. Two great markers in the sky were converging, presenting a rare celestial juncture. Their calendar accurately tells us when this will occur, and it meant more than the birth of a new solar year. It meant the beginning of a new Great Cycle of time, the resetting of the great celestial star-clock of precession and, perhaps, an unprecedented shift in the nature of human consciousness and civilization
    Or....... It means that they took there 260 day calander and put it on a wall and than repeated it 200 times till they ran out of wall.

    I know it's interesting to apply cosmic significance to these things reality is boring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer View Post
    This is the most realistic explanation I have found. Found this after watching an episode on the science channel last night that was showing the same thing. Excellent reading. It does NOT say that the world will end.

    http://www.alignment2012.com/fap2.html

    This is the very last paragraph.

    The ancient Maya noticed that the winter solstice sun was slowly moving towards the Milky Way. Two great markers in the sky were converging, presenting a rare celestial juncture. Their calendar accurately tells us when this will occur, and it meant more than the birth of a new solar year. It meant the beginning of a new Great Cycle of time, the resetting of the great celestial star-clock of precession and, perhaps, an unprecedented shift in the nature of human consciousness and civilization
    True, this is what I have seen as well. The Mayan calender does not "end" in 2012, it just starts a new astronomical cycle, according to what the Mayans defined as astronomical cycles. The Mayan prediction of the "end of the world" in 2012 is a misinterpretation.

    There are many ways to define major astronomical cycles and events. The Mayans obviously regarded the convergance of various astronomical objects as significant and therefore included that in their calendar.

    How such events affects us and our civilization is a totally different topic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelderek View Post
    True, this is what I have seen as well. The Mayan calender does not "end" in 2012, it just starts a new astronomical cycle, according to what the Mayans defined as astronomical cycles. The Mayan prediction of the "end of the world" in 2012 is a misinterpretation.

    There are many ways to define major astronomical cycles and events. The Mayans obviously regarded the convergance of various astronomical objects as significant and therefore included that in their calendar.

    How such events affects us and our civilization is a totally different topic...
    Well I am goiong to get me a good telescope to see that happen. I have been wanting one since the hale-bopp comet was so clear and bright here in wyoming and where I live it is really dark at night with no city light to affect it so I should be able to get some really great sightings.
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    Cool!
    I'm living in a big city, so I suffer from bright lights interfering with serious attempts at back yard amateur astronomy!

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    Old Timer;
    You hit the nail on the head . The Mayan calendar only ran so long, and due to inherent errors in the calendar it had to be restarted, a reboot of the calendar, and not a reboot of existence. Too many stupid people out there are trying to justify the endtime.It just isn't going to happen. Too many closed minded believers is junk science and perversions of the One True Faith. Like that fellow called Mind Over Matter or what ever. What a piece of work. I hope that God blesses him with true wisdom. God gives us what
    we are lacking if we only ask.

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    If I twitter this post will it point back to here or will it reboot The Mayan Calendar before the due date. Well they don't have a leap year in their
    calander and that is where the problem starts. The spin of the earth is slowing down and the magnetic fields of the earth are decaying. The Van Allen Belts will collapse and the solar radiation will microwave all of us into oversized versions of a bag of fried pork rinds. Holy hell we are really
    screwed this time.:
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    It is tough to be serious with this stuff when there are so many real threats to our lives out there, old age is the most serious. Don't waste time there is so little of it left for each one of us, individually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaYJERONIS View Post
    It is tough to be serious with this stuff when there are so many real threats to our lives out there, old age is the most serious. Don't waste time there is so little of it left for each one of us, individually.
    Tell me about it. Hey, I got an idea. Just like the Mayan calender I will reboot myself as well and get to start all over again. But wait, with the world the way it is today, do I really want to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer View Post
    Well I am goiong to get me a good telescope to see that happen. I have been wanting one since the hale-bopp comet was so clear and bright here in wyoming and where I live it is really dark at night with no city light to affect it so I should be able to get some really great sightings.
    Yeah, its amazing the difference when you live somewhere truly dark at night, no light pollution. It's like an entirely different sky. I've long wanted to get a decent telescope, when I eventually move somewhere more remote I'll definitely do it.

    Nothing more fascinating than the sky.

    Don't know if its been shown in US, but you should check out Prof. Brian Cox's bbc show Wonders of the Solar System, you can get it on dvd and bluray in US: brilliant.

    He has just started a new series on bbc in UK, about the universe itself. First epidose was on this week, best hour of tv I've seen in years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old Timer View Post
    Well I am goiong to get me a good telescope to see that happen. I have been wanting one since the hale-bopp comet was so clear and bright here in wyoming and where I live it is really dark at night with no city light to affect it so I should be able to get some really great sightings.
    Awesome :)

    I've got a 12" Dobsonian, looks something like this:



    (not me in the photo, just something i pulled from google)


    The only problem is, it's a pain in the ass to get it anywhere. Especially because I live in an apartment now and it needs to be carried down to the car.

    If you live somewhere dark, and it doesn't need to get moved much, then a dobsonian is awesome, and excellent value as well. Otherwise, a smaller refractor is probably better (and in hindsight, what I should have bought).


    Oh, and don't buy from anywhere other than a telescope specialist. You can pay a lot of money for a telescope that won't let you see anything except into your neighbour's house. You need to talk to someone who knows about astronomy or else you'll end up wasting money and not enjoying your telescope at all. Sporting stores, national geographic (or I think you have Discovery stores over there?), toy stores etc... all sell terrible quality stuff. It's really important to go to a specialist for buying a telescope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamwil View Post

    (other than Y2K??)
    Now, dont diss Y2K, I loved it. As a programmer it paid for my home cinema system (now utterly obsolete, naturally).

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamwil View Post
    Our paper calendars run out every 12 months...has anyone ever thought that was the end of the world??

    (other than Y2K??)

    I actually think we are all dyslexic and it will all end in 2102...I can't wait, we'll have OTs 164th birthday party
    Hey hold on now. I still have a good 3 years berfore that birthday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazza View Post
    Awesome :)

    I've got a 12" Dobsonian, looks something like this:



    (not me in the photo, just something i pulled from google)


    The only problem is, it's a pain in the ass to get it anywhere. Especially because I live in an apartment now and it needs to be carried down to the car.

    If you live somewhere dark, and it doesn't need to get moved much, then a dobsonian is awesome, and excellent value as well. Otherwise, a smaller refractor is probably better (and in hindsight, what I should have bought).


    Oh, and don't buy from anywhere other than a telescope specialist. You can pay a lot of money for a telescope that won't let you see anything except into your neighbour's house. You need to talk to someone who knows about astronomy or else you'll end up wasting money and not enjoying your telescope at all. Sporting stores, national geographic (or I think you have Discovery stores over there?), toy stores etc... all sell terrible quality stuff. It's really important to go to a specialist for buying a telescope.
    I was going to say... you would have looked mighty good for your age if that was you. Have you fathered any children?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit The Frog View Post
    I was going to say... you would have looked mighty good for your age if that was you. Have you fathered any children?
    Lol. I'm only 25, so I think I look even better for my age than if that was me in the pic :rasta:

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    Quote Originally Posted by kazza View Post
    Lol. I'm only 25, so I think I look even better for my age than if that was me in the pic :rasta:

    Oh.. I see.....

    Im looking to bear children here in the comming years (before my eggs go bad) but im looking for a specific genetic set that will allow my children to look young when they are older.

    It's in the genetic DNA coding somewhere... I just can't find the specific DNA strand that will allow this by looking at a specific person.


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