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  1. #1
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    watchout for this scam!!!!!

    This is a new kind of scam going around

    Recently a girl called me up to tell me I have been selected to receive some goverment fund of 10K freely, which I suspect is a scam. I asked her I didnt apply for any goverment grant. she replied you need not apply, the federal government takes a lottery out of all the tax payers names & chose you to receive this free fund. (woooo Jesus...i been in US just 3 months & when did i get into the taxpayers list???!!!) I pretended I got excited but at the back of my head I was thinking, how much is your 'processing fees & stuff'. To my expectation, she forwarded my call to another guy.(aaaha!! 1st sign this is a scam....) he explained the same basic rules ..will be put it in my checking account blah blah...but u need to make payment of 245$ by some date. (there goes the 2nd sign its a major scam). I asked why dont u take urself from the grant fund & gimme the rest..he replied no we cant do that...we are just outsouced to send the funds to you. (at this point another striking thing struck me... its pretty clear that the girl & the guy are calling from indian call center ..how do i know that? well I m from india too, by their accent i can sense that, but i kept on asking if they are calling from India, but they kept on replying they were calling from Florida)...(no city, but just Florida)...another silly mistake...cos my girlfriend (who works in call center) told me that the call centers in india are not supposed to reveal their original location as india.& most importantly all the federal outsourcings to Indian companies have been cut, if I am right.

    But the strange thing is, they are located in US...as they gave me their customer service center number is some 888 number. and also, the guy told me like they will be sending the 245$ back in the form of govt bonds. I doubt which pea-brained fella can offer such deal. Cos if they break their promise, they will be messed up for life, atleast in US. I am waiting for their documentation to come in which I will be given instructions to make the payment & also to claim the grant i need to fill some crap documentation.

    Pretty hard to deal. But finally, I gave up the idea of dreaming of 10 grand & let my meager peanuts salary rule my living.

    I never thought India was also into such technical scams but too far behind Nigeria...

    just to make sure...these are the sure signs of a scam...aplicable in mails as well

    1. the initial caller will tell you its free (DAMN we are not animals living in woods to get everything free)
    2. then the call will be promptly put to another supervisor or team leader or claims manager or some other guy for extra details..who will reveal you will get 10K USD out of nowhere, but comes with a small processing fee, which you must pay out of your pocket...
    3. They will try to get you as much as possible by extending dates... first he said to me to make payment in 10 days...i said...i dont have it....he said ok we can extend it but make sure you make payment by 1st week next month.
    4. If theres a marketing thing involved in it you know what it is.....(like in my case..during the call i have been given an option to sign up for some cheap long distance calling... (when did the govt start promoting long distance calls to tax payers????!!!!)
    5. if the caller has a non-american english accent..then i bet the call is from india..make sure you ask their location.. & he/she will tell you they r calling from US...(in this case..they said again & again they calling from florida!!!but no city)
    6. to make it more exciting, some scammers might ask you to keep the whole deal a secret, as they dont want to mix up names......
    7. make sure u dont give any imp details of yours..like SSN & credit card no. & bank account/routing number.

    if any more hints you got..post 'em here...

    till then
    sayonara scamming loosers...

  2. #2
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    Just as I expected.....

    Check this link

    http://consumeraffairs.com/scam_alerts/grant.html

    they are going from state to state.... they could land up in your state next time....

  3. #3
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    Attention Needed.

    I received this yesterday. Posted from "tonycurtis50@netscape.net"

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    This mail will definitely be coming to you as a surprise, but I must
    crave
    your indulgence to introduce myself to you.

    I am Mr. Tony Curtis, a Manager at the United Bank Ltd, London.
    However I
    got your contact through the International web directory.

    Recently we discovered a Dormant Account with a huge Amount of Money
    Valued
    USD17, 600,000.00 (Seventeen Million, six hundred Dollars Only) that
    belongs
    to One of our late Customer MR. KRAANVOGEL DIONIJS. who died In a
    plane
    crash. During our investigation and auditing in this bank, my
    Department
    came Across a very huge sum of money belonging to MR. KRAANVOGEL
    DIONIJS
    from Beverwijk, Netherlands, who died along with his wife, MRS.
    KATRIEN
    DIONIJS and Daughter, MS. SOFIE DIONIJS so the fund has Been dormant
    in his
    account with this Bank without Any claim of the fund in our custody
    either
    from his Family or relation before Our discovery to this development.

    The Banking law here stipulates that if such money remains unclaimed
    for 15
    years, it will be forfeited to the Bank Treasury as an unclaimed bill.
    It is
    only a foreigner that can stand as a next of kin and it is upon this
    discovery that I decided to contact you to collaborate with you to
    pull out
    this dormant fund. In order to avert this negative development. On
    behalf of
    my trusted colleagues we now seek your permission to have you stand in
    as
    next of kin to Our late Customer so that the fund will be released and
    paid
    into your account as the beneficiaries next of kin now that the bank
    is
    still expecting a next of kin or relative of the deceased, MR.
    KRAANVOGEL
    DIONIJS.

    We could have done this deal alone but because of our position in
    this
    country as civil servants, we are not allowed to operate a foreign
    account
    and that would eventually raise an eye brow on our side during the
    time of
    transfer since we still work in this bank, this is the actual reason
    why we
    required a second party or fellow who will assist us forward claims as
    the
    next of kin and also provide either an existing bank account or to set
    up a
    new Bank a/c immediately to receive this fund, even an empty a/c can
    also
    serve for this purpose.

    However, on smooth conclusion of this transaction, you will be
    entitled to
    25% as gratification for your assistance to us, while 5% will be set
    aside
    to take care of expenses on both sides that may arise during the time
    of
    transfer and also for telephone bills, and the remaining 70% will be
    for me
    and my colleague.

    What I want from you is for you to act as the deceased next of kin. I
    have
    in my possession, all the necessary Documents to successfully
    accomplish the
    operation. Bear in mind that this proposal is 100% risk free. Further
    Information will be given to you as soon as I receive your positive
    response. I suggest you get back to me as soon as possible stating
    your
    wish. For confidentiality please contact me on my personal
    email:tonycurtis50@netscape.net

    Best Regards,
    Mr. Tony Curtis
    United Bank Ltd.

  4. #4

    New Scam

    I recently received the following email. I instantly saw SCAM written ALL over it, so I pretty much forgot about it until my fiancee called me this morning. He heard something on the radio about this scam and another one going around in the Houston, TX area asking people to deposit money into the ENRON exec's defense fund. Apparently, quite a few people fell for both of these scams and gave these people their bank account info. I've fallen for some scams, but you just gotta be a sucker to fall for these. Still, here is the email I received:

    ATENTION
    How are you my dear? I got your contact from the internet,and picked interest to write you. I am a male student from the University
    of Lagos, Nigeria. I am 25 yrs old. I'd like any person who can
    be caring, loving and home oriented. I will love to have a long-term
    relationship with you and to know more about you. I would like to
    build up a solid foundation with you in time coming if you can be
    able to help me in this transaction.
    Well, my father died earlier two months ago and left I
    and my junior brother behind. He is a king, which our town citizens
    titled him before he died. I was a prince to him and I am the
    only person who can take care of his wealth now because my junior
    sister is still a kid and my mother is not literate enough to know
    all my father's wealth. He left up to USD 20,350,000
    [twenty million three hundred and fifty thousand dollars)
    with a security company in ABROAD and I don't know how to and what I will do to invest this money somewhere in abroad, so that my father's kindred will not take over what belongs to my father and our family, which they were planning to do without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town. That is why I felt happy when I saw your contact because I strongly believe that by the grace of God, you will help me invest this money.
    I am ready to pay 10% of the total amount to you if
    you help us in this business and another 10% interest of Annual
    After Income to you, for handling this business for us, which you will
    strongly have absolute control over.
    If you can handle this project sincerely and also
    willing to assist me in lifting this fund, kindly reach me and I
    will link you to my legal representative for further discussion.
    Please, note that this transaction is 100% risk free and I hope to
    commence the transaction as quick as possible, as soon as I here from you.

    Yours sincerely ,

    Prince ifeanyi W Emeka

  5. #5
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    Re: New Scam

    That's funny. I can't believe they didn't even proof read it before they sent it out. And I like the way they reafirmed "[twenty million three hundred and fifty thousand dollars)". With all that broken english, and the prior use of USD, why would they say dollars here? That terminology, coupled with" Well, my father died earlier two months ago and left I and my junior brother behind. He is a king, which our town citizens titled him before he died. I was a prince to him" and then "I am the only person who can take care of his wealth now because my junior sister is still a kid" and finally "because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town." definitly suggests this is a scam. English is a hard language to learn, we have many words with double and triple meanings. If you were learning english as a second language, you would not learn the word kid as a reference to a younger person, rather you would learn the word child. To you, a kid would be a young goat. no teacher would confuse you with informal or slang usage of the word. This is the worst attempt I have seen yet, I could go on for ever about the inconsistancies here. wonder what kind of person would be enough of a sucker to fall for this. Has any one else recieved anything like this? Thanks for sharing it Texasgirl!!

  6. #6
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    Re: New Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGirl22
    I recently received the following email. I instantly saw SCAM written ALL over it, so I pretty much forgot about it until my fiancee called me this morning. He heard something on the radio about this scam and another one going around in the Houston, TX area asking people to deposit money into the ENRON exec's defense fund. Apparently, quite a few people fell for both of these scams and gave these people their bank account info. I've fallen for some scams, but you just gotta be a sucker to fall for these. Still, here is the email I received:

    ATENTION
    How are you my dear? I got your contact from the internet,and picked interest to write you. I am a male student from the University
    of Lagos, Nigeria. I am 25 yrs old. I'd like any person who can
    be caring, loving and home oriented. I will love to have a long-term
    relationship with you and to know more about you. I would like to
    build up a solid foundation with you in time coming if you can be
    able to help me in this transaction.
    Well, my father died earlier two months ago and left I
    and my junior brother behind. He is a king, which our town citizens
    titled him before he died. I was a prince to him and I am the
    only person who can take care of his wealth now because my junior
    sister is still a kid and my mother is not literate enough to know
    all my father's wealth. He left up to USD 20,350,000
    [twenty million three hundred and fifty thousand dollars)
    with a security company in ABROAD and I don't know how to and what I will do to invest this money somewhere in abroad, so that my father's kindred will not take over what belongs to my father and our family, which they were planning to do without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town. That is why I felt happy when I saw your contact because I strongly believe that by the grace of God, you will help me invest this money.
    I am ready to pay 10% of the total amount to you if
    you help us in this business and another 10% interest of Annual
    After Income to you, for handling this business for us, which you will
    strongly have absolute control over.
    If you can handle this project sincerely and also
    willing to assist me in lifting this fund, kindly reach me and I
    will link you to my legal representative for further discussion.
    Please, note that this transaction is 100% risk free and I hope to
    commence the transaction as quick as possible, as soon as I here from you.

    Yours sincerely ,

    Prince ifeanyi W Emeka
    Not new.............

  7. #7
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    Re: New Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by brandoni68
    wonder what kind of person would be enough of a sucker to fall for this...
    Amazingly, there's someone on one of the other threads who said that she and her husband got into one of these Nigerian scams (sounds like recently). I would have thought everybody knew about these guys by now, but I guess not...

  8. #8

    Re: New Scam

    :eek: I work in Investigations parttime in my home town here,and the email that you are referring to is actually called "The Nigerian Scam".
    It is actually well known.
    Peopl receive the same one you did...or it may change a little by stating that the wifes husband died and they need to move money and move into the USA fast...and so fourth.
    What they are ACTUALLY wanting is people to give their banking details and then they will clean you out completely.

  9. #9
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    Re: New Scam

    Actually they don't care about your banking details, you can give them all made up info and they will never notice, they just want you to keep sending them more and more money. Now if you give them real banking info they MAY actually check it out and if it's legit clean you out, but it's not about getting your banking info primarily

  10. #10
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    Re: New Scam

    Not only that this is way too obvious, I didn't even understand this and it didn't even make any sense. So this person is a male but then in his culture this person is also a female, and thus can't get any of this money. Riiiigghhhhhtttt, oouuuuukay!

  11. #11
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    Re: New Scam

    I've gotten about 20 of them! I just waste their time like I do with telemarketers. I keep e-mailing them back acting like I'm stupid. They ask for my phone number to call me and I tell them but why because I can't half way understand your letter so I know I can't understand you on the phone or tell them I don't have a phone. Then they reply with well how do you have internet, duh, the same way I got TV-satellite baby! I lie to them and tell them my daddy's a king too! I'm hiding in america as a political refugee and I have millions in a swiss acct and I don't know what I would do if someone killed my father! I wouldn't have access to my money either so I would do what they do, sit in front of my computer sending e-mails 24-7!

    It aint easy-being cheezy!

  12. 05-11-2005, 12:40 AM

    Reason
    wrong section

  13. #12
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    Re: New Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by looking4dreams
    I've gotten about 20 of them! I just waste their time like I do with telemarketers. I keep e-mailing them back acting like I'm stupid. They ask for my phone number to call me and I tell them but why because I can't half way understand your letter so I know I can't understand you on the phone or tell them I don't have a phone. Then they reply with well how do you have internet, duh, the same way I got TV-satellite baby! I lie to them and tell them my daddy's a king too! I'm hiding in america as a political refugee and I have millions in a swiss acct and I don't know what I would do if someone killed my father! I wouldn't have access to my money either so I would do what they do, sit in front of my computer sending e-mails 24-7!

    It aint easy-being cheezy!


    And you do ALL of that JUST to waste their time. Ok, so let me get this straight, you "waste" your own time, and about the same amount of your own time as you waste of theirs, just to get them to waste their time. Well, you certainly do stick it to them, but this doesn't sound all that time efficient to me at all. I guess maybe if you're good at it. Just to be fair though, you aren't "wasting" your time per se since you're at least having fun while their being frustirated. YOU: 1, Spammers: 0.

  14. #13
    looking4dreams Guest

    Re: New Scam

    senbassador! ha ha ha, that's all I have is time on my hands. I'm a stay at home mom, I mean c'mon I can only scrub the floors so many times a day before that gets old. My heart just jumps a beat when I get a chance to play with a telemarketer! Silly? Maybe, but it's still fun to me and the old man gets a kick out of me too.

    I have my number on the national do not call list but every now and then someone slips into my web!

    The funniest one that I ever had on the phone was a guy doing a survey he said, he didn't get far! He said isn't it true that there's too much sex, nudity, violence and profanity on t.v. today? I said too much! Hell, there's not enough.........I love it! I heard this guy actually gasp like he had just had a conversation with the anti-christ but I couldn't help it. I was in the middle of cooking around 5:30 that afternoon and I hate it when telemarketers interrupt me, lol. I felt bad after that one, but it was funny!

  15. #14
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    Re: New Scam

    Is it a boy?

    Quote Originally Posted by TexasGirl22
    Well, my father died earlier two months ago and left I
    and my junior brother behind.
    Or a girl?

    I was a prince to him and I am the
    only person who can take care of his wealth now because my junior
    sister
    is still a kid and my mother is not literate enough to know
    all my father's wealth.
    Boy?

    I am a male student from the University
    or girl?

    without my present because I am a female as stated by our culture in the town.

    Roflol


    Kisha :D
    Last edited by kishat; 05-12-2005 at 09:57 PM.

  16. #15
    looking4dreams Guest

    Re: New Scam

    Good job Kisha!!! I didn't pay attention to see all of that and I'm sure no one caught that. I just read over the letter quickly, probably the same way everyone did except you, that's cool!

  17. #16
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    Re: New Scam

    Quote Originally Posted by looking4dreams
    senbassador! ha ha ha, that's all I have is time on my hands. I'm a stay at home mom, I mean c'mon I can only scrub the floors so many times a day before that gets old. My heart just jumps a beat when I get a chance to play with a telemarketer! Silly? Maybe, but it's still fun to me and the old man gets a kick out of me too.

    I have my number on the national do not call list but every now and then someone slips into my web!

    The funniest one that I ever had on the phone was a guy doing a survey he said, he didn't get far! He said isn't it true that there's too much sex, nudity, violence and profanity on t.v. today? I said too much! Hell, there's not enough.........I love it! I heard this guy actually gasp like he had just had a conversation with the anti-christ but I couldn't help it. I was in the middle of cooking around 5:30 that afternoon and I hate it when telemarketers interrupt me, lol. I felt bad after that one, but it was funny!

    Ok come on, you know I was only being half-sarcastic about that. Surely I got some spare time on my hands as well ;). Yes, its very fun I am sure and I would do it too if more scammers emailed me and I knew all the tricks and ways to **** with them. Naturally though, over time they will only evolve and know what to look for so you'd/we'd have to come up with newer ways and surely I would like to get in on it. There even is a site dedicated to this sort of thing I hear, 419eater.com. My overall point though is that it does seem like a lost cause, considering that in the long run you'd have to spend some of your own time (no matter how fun it may be) in order to get to get them to waste their time and get frustriated and no matter how many you get there will always be more. And another one and another one and another bites the dust. In fact I am even planning on dedicating a small piece of webspace in my hall of shame in a blog I am putting together to them. I allready have a collection of links to some spoofs out there and I have one site saterized allready. And another one bites the dust. Granted, it take forever for me to put this together because a) I am lazy, b) I procrastinate, and c) I have other things to do but I'll get around it eventually. In the meantime have fun.

    btw now thanks to my reply to this message board I have that song stuck in my head :D

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