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    Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Crash site.








    We don't have any bodies, passengers or luggage ("Rick King, Shankville volunteer fireman").





    We DO have a hole.





    If you wanted to fake a plane crash site, where would you fake it?... Somewhere that already looks like a plane hit the ground?.








    Is United 93 a 9/11 smoking gun?.

    Thoughts?.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    PaulM?.

    Soupy?.

    Klederek?

    LogicallyYours?
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    The guy in the first video says he saw debris and parts of the plane, so what is the problem?

    The quote "no plane" from a fireman has been debunked already.

    Here is his statements:

    My statements were taken completely out of context. Of course there was an airplane. It's just that there wasn't much left of it after the explosion. That's what I meant when I said 'no airplane'. I saw parts of the wreckage with my own eyes, even one of the engines. It was lying in the bushes.
    They just found the two turbines because, of course, they're heavier and more massive than everything else. But there was almost nothing left of the actual airplane. You can still find plate-sized parts out there. And Neville from the farm over there found an aluminum part from the airplane's outside shell behind his barn that must've been about 8 by 10 or even 8 by 12 feet.
    Photos of the debris and even passengers driving licenses can be seen here:

    http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html

    There is absolutely no doubt that he plane crashed at that site. No smoking gun.

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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelderek View Post
    The guy in the first video says he saw debris and parts of the plane, so what is the problem?.
    The problem is there were no bodies or luggage to be seen from eyewitness accounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelderek View Post
    There is absolutely no doubt that he plane crashed at that site.
    +1.

    Plane crash site of 1994.

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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    The problem is there were no bodies or luggage to be seen from eyewitness accounts.
    You're taking that from a quote from one guy, clearly in a state of shock, in one video. What if he didn't see any bodies? Not enough to build a conspiracy theory from.

    There are countless others who found body parts and identified victims. In total, 1500 pieces of human remains were found.

    Some links:

    http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...onernat3p3.asp

    http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...cenenat5p5.asp

    http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...ht931027p5.asp

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in502204.shtml

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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelderek View Post
    You're taking that from a quote from one guy, clearly in a state of shock, in one video. What if he didn't see any bodies? Not enough to build a conspiracy theory from.
    What we have is Coroner Wallace Miller contradicting eyewitness Rick King who said he saw no bodies or luggage.

    Who do we believe?.


    Also, wouldn't the crash site be littered with "viewable" plane parts?.








    Two people have been killed and over 80 injured as a Russian airliner overshot the runway at Moscow's Domodedovo airport.



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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    The plane did not crash period. Neither was it shot down. While the cracks in the ground move from season to season it's pretty obvious one was chosen to represent the wings in a 'Wily Coyote'-esque attempt to fool the public.

    I would think different cracks would show up on Google Earth now.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    What we have is Coroner Wallace Miller contradicting eyewitness Rick King who said he saw no bodies or luggage.

    Who do we believe?.


    Also, wouldn't the crash site be littered with "viewable" plane parts?.
    Do you think Coroner Wallace was the only one who saw the body parts? What about all the people who dug them out of the crash site and submitted them to the coroner?

    You're doing the same mistake here as you have done with every 911 theory you have posted about: You take one little fraction of doubt and blow it out of portion, dismissing tons of real evidence debunking that theory.

    What if Rick King didn't know what he was talking about? Maybe he didn't see any body parts? Big deal. Many others saw them. Why is he more credible than all the others who found, handled and identified 1500 pieces of human remains?

    About the crash site:

    It was littered with plane parts. Look at the pictures:

    http://www.911myths.com/html/flight_93_photos.html
    (Click on the picture "Crash scene 3", lots of viewable plane parts there)

    Your pictures of a Russian plane are irrelevant. It overshot the runway, then crashed. Flight 93 crashed into the ground at a near 90 degree angle, from a high altitude, at high speed. Two very different scenarios.

    Here are a number of eyewitness accounts:

    http://www.flight93crash.com/flight93_eyewitness.html

    Also look at this video:

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=81a_1252515314

    Lots of shots from the crash site, showing wreckage, several eyewitnesses telling what they saw. Look very closely at the ten statements at the end of the clip.

    Flight 93 crashed at Shanksville. Human remains were found and identified.
    End of story.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    You conspiracy kooks are the biggest losers I have ever encountered. I GUARANTEE you don't spew this shit in public cuz you would get the shit beat out of you. What a bunch of ing sad sack propeller head phaggots. Triple up on the Ritalin,pussies.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revydo View Post
    You conspiracy kooks are the biggest losers I have ever encountered. I GUARANTEE you don't spew this shit in public cuz you would get the shit beat out of you. What a bunch of ing sad sack propeller head phaggots. Triple up on the Ritalin,pussies.
    Well now, you certainly put forward a cogent and convincing argument there. :cwm2:
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    It's obvious cogency has eluded the conspiracy retards. You all need to be rooted out and institutionalized, for your own good. Cuz, had you the nads to spew this crap in public, you'd all get your skulls cracked. You are all losers that prolly got picked on in grade school/Jr. High for being the wimpy ass dorks you are.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revydo View Post
    It's obvious cogency has eluded the conspiracy retards. You all need to be rooted out and institutionalized, for your own good. Cuz, had you the nads to spew this crap in public, you'd all get your skulls cracked. You are all losers that prolly got picked on in grade school/Jr. High for being the wimpy ass dorks you are.
    I tell a lot of people about this stuff in public actually.

    Rooting out and institutionalising dissidents was a big feature of the Sovjet. Also gets an airing in novels like 1984. And you support this?
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    I just wonder if some of the parts recovered from the ground at Shanks on 9/11 (engines), may have been from the initial crash which happened in the same place back in '94.
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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    I just wonder if some of the parts recovered from the ground at Shanks on 9/11 (engines), may have been from the initial crash which happened in the same place back in '94.
    Which crash in 1994?
    Are you inventing a plane crash in 1994 to support a crackpot theory that nothing crashed there 2001? Despite all the eyewitnesses?

    Ridiculous.

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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    What we have is Coroner Wallace Miller contradicting eyewitness Rick King who said he saw no bodies or luggage.

    Who do we believe?.


    Also, wouldn't the crash site be littered with "viewable" plane parts?.








    Two people have been killed and over 80 injured as a Russian airliner overshot the runway at Moscow's Domodedovo airport.



    Overshooting a runway measn the plane was skimming the ground at slow speed.

    In Shanksville the plane hit at HIGH speed and from a much different angle.

    The two crashes are not identical and therefore no comparison is relevant.

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    Re: Did United 93 crash in Shanksville?.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelderek View Post
    Despite all the eyewitnesses?.
    Which some admittedly contradict the days events & what they saw.

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