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    Jackie Kennedy Killed JFK?.

    WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE?



    There was an entrance wound in Kennedy's throat & a left temple exit wound & that could not have been made by anyone but Jackie Kennedy.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq-54szFXcs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_Kg...eature=related

    Retrieving a shell casing?.



    "The truth depends on, and is only arrived at, by a legitimate deduction from all the facts which are truly material." [S. T. Coleridge, "Table-Talk," December 27, 1831.]


    Where’s the EVIDENCE for what you’re implying, you ask? Here’s a slow-motion clip of the Zapruder film for your perusal. Please zero in on Jackie beginning at the point JFK grabs his throat and look for 5 CLUES:

    1. She leans into him but does not put an arm around him as would be a more natural response. Instead, she keeps her hands out of camera range by contorting her arms rather awkwardly, perhaps conscious of the possibility that there are cameras on both sides of the street. Photos and film taken from the left side of the car also do not show exactly what she’s doing with her right hand. It appears she's using her left hand to steady his chin for a clean shot to the left side of his head.

    2. She seems more focused on Gov. Connally’s words to her than on her husband’s condition. Could Connally possibly be telling her it’s time to “do it”? Or perhaps he’s uttering the trigger words that will elicit a previously induced hypnotic suggestion. Does it look to you like they're shocked by what's happening or do they look more like they're having a confab?

    3. At point of head impact, white smoke moves upward on LEFT SIDE of JFK’s head. This white wisp of smoke or vapor is visible even in photos and film taken from the other side of the car. Here's a slow motion clip of just the head shot that clearly shows white smoke before the blood splatter. A bullet doesn’t cause smoke; the barrel of a gun does. There are various reports (here’s one) that indicate that the gunshot entry wound was on the left side of JFK’s head; exit wound to the right front. One of the doctors at Parkland, Dr. Jenkins, testified to the Warren Commission that he had discovered what appeared to be a bullet wound to the “left temporal region” "right above the zygomatic bone" in the hairlineof the President’s head. (Of course, the Warren Commission took care of that “misconception”!) (See also: EVIDENCE OF LEFT HEAD WOUND). For a shocking discussion of the theory that the bodies of J.D. Tippit (the Dallas police officer reported to have been shot by Oswald after the assassination) and JFK were switched in order to produce autopsy photos and x-rays closer to the false conclusions of the Warren Commission, read this and this. Could this be how the conspirators hid the fact of JFK's real head wounds?

    4. She quickly hides something (the gun?). In the still frames of the Zapruder film, it appears to me that there must be several frames missing between #326 and #327. Judging from the slow progression of the other still frames (It takes more than 60 frames to show Gov. Connally turning his head toward Jackie!), there’s no conceivable way that Jackie’s arm could have skipped from an upright position to one pointing down in the space of one frame (1/18 of a second)! What do those responsible not want us to see? A gun? Or did the conspirators want to save themselves the trouble of having to obscure with black paint the right rear exit wound reported by both Dallas medical personnel and various witnesses? ....or both? (See all frames.)

    5. Judging by the blood and brain spray exiting JFK’s head, what kind of trajectory would the bullet have to travel? Isn’t it more consistent with someone placing the muzzle near his left ear and firing upwards than it would be of a long-distance shooter firing from behind…or even from the front? (See image at top showing skull fragment spinning through the air.) There is an assassination researcher who puts forth the theory that there was a shooter in the trunk of the car! He is actually closer to the truth than other theorists because the intensity and trajectory of the shot indicates that it came from within the tight little circle of the car and those in it and around it. His conclusions support rather than deny mine. Then there's the testimony of photographer Hugh Betzner, who was in close proximity to the car at the time of the shooting. He stated, "I heard at least two shots fired and I saw what looked like a firecracker going off in the president's car." He also said, "I also remember seeing what looked like a nickel r*****er in someone's hand in the President's car or somewhere immediately around his car." (Full testimony HERE.) Witness Austin L. Miller on the railroad bridge thought the shots came from the Presidential limousine itself, and Senator Ralph Yarborough smelled gunpowder at street level following the assassination. (Taken from Amazon's excerpt of "False Mystery," by V. J. Salandria). There are experts who insist that the Zapruder film was altered and also that frames were removed; and these alterations seem aimed at obscuring the moment of the head shot. The final product still shows evidence of a shot from the front, so this alteration must, more importantly in the minds of the alterers, have been done to hide both the fact that the car was brought to a complete standstill for the execution of the head shot(s), and to hide the fact that Jackie’s hand held a gun. This video has more details about the obvous alterations to the Zapruder film and an interview with a French journalist who claims he has seen an unedited copy of the film bought from Zapruder by H. L. Hunt just hours after the assassination. Of interest to me especially is the fact that this journalist claims inside information that there were two head shots fired almost simultaneously from two different directions. Another fact that is pointed out in the video is that the "kill zone" on Elm Street was marked with three yellow stripes painted on the curb at intervals, which can be seen in the Zapruder film (see one here) and also still remain faintly visible to this day in Dallas. The role of the umbrella man is also covered.

    The sequence of events that took our President’s life was, in my opinion, and based on observation of the Zapruder film, as follows:

    1. JFK was shot in the throat from the front, possibly by a bullet or fragment of a bullet that went through the windshield of the car. Contrary to popular belief, Gov. Connally was not wounded until AFTER the fatal head shot (as evidenced by the fact that he is able to turn his body around and toward Jackie in order to speak to her). Note: If you click on the link to the article regarding Gov. Connally’s wounds, notice how clearly the white smoke is visible in the Zapruder frames he posts.)

    2. One or more bullets from the rear were fired at some point during the sequence, causing JFK’s back entrance wound (which was shallow probably due to his heavy back corset-like brace), and the injuries to Gov. Connally.

    3. Jackie maneuvers herself into position in order to deliver a head shot to enter from the left in JFK’s hairline near his ear and upward, but she hesitates a few seconds too long, forcing the sniper hidden on the grassy knoll to respond with a head shot of his own (occurring at frame #326). (Robert D. Morningstar writes regarding a JFK autopsy photo in this article that, "This indicates to us that the bullet causing this wound would have to have passed through an already open frontal head wound without having struck frontal or temporal bone upon entry which would have resulted in its deformation or early fragmentation."). This sniper’s shot nearly coincided perfectly with Jackie’s shot, and the startling realization that rifle shots were coming in her direction, coupled with the horror of her mortally wounded husband falling toward her and not away from her, caused her to flee away from their source and towards the rear of the automobile seeking the protective arms of her personal Secret Service agent, Clint Hill. (Jackie almost roughly pushes JFK’s body aside as she swiftly climbs out onto the trunk of the car reportedly to retrieve some mysterious object. The official story that she was trying to save brain matter or a piece of skull is suspect as the Zapruder film clearly shows that the trunk area is still in pristine condition. (Note: I have to admit that still shots of the trunk area at this JFK Lancer site seem to show some sort of debris.) I believe that she looks like she’s trying to grab something -- her bullet casing? -- on the boot of the car because she’s reaching for the protruding “buttons” about halfway to the Secret Service handles in order to hold on to something while she makes her escape.) Note: Kitty Kelley's unauthorized biography, "Jackie Oh!" ignores the standard media hype and simply states that Jackie was trying to "flee." (Pg. 230). It's really immaterial whether Jackie was grabbing for a piece of skull and/or brain matter, or fleeing a possible shot from a sniper, as the evidence for her involvement in the murder is enough to render it so. Who knows, maybe she was afraid the piece of brain she is said to have retrieved contained incriminating bullet fragments from her gun and not the official "murder weapon."

    4. The nearly simultaneous head shots coming from two different directions - one close to the head from the left and the other traveling a distance from the right front - explain the conflicting bodily movements indicating JFK’s physical reaction to the two head injuries. (Slightly forward at the first shot (Frame #312), but then quickly back and to the left (Frame #313 and 314) after the incoming shot from the grassy knoll.) This video made by Bob Harris explores evidence that there were two nearly simultaneous head shots from different directions. David Lifton, in "Best Evidence: Disguise and Deception in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy," reports being first shocked and then troubled when it's pointed out to him that his "back and to the left" phenomena noted on the Zapruder film in Frame #313 is immediately preceded by a forward motion in #312. My thesis that JFK was shot at close range from the left side and slightly towards the back of his head would account for this motion. David Lifton's "Case for Three Assassins" theory is made more credible by the realization that Jackie was one of the shooters from the "rear," albeit, a very close rear.

    Another good link to a larger, blown-up version of the Zapruder film can be found at Metacafe. The white smoke is clearly visible, as well as the gun-hiding motions of Jackie Kennedy after impact.

    Just found this YouTube link: "Was Jackie Directly Involved in the JFK Assassination?" (5/26/10).

    And here is the entrance wound to the above blow out of the top of his head;



    And now if you look at the first picture again, there is only one person who's hand is in the right position to make that entrance wound in Kennedy's throat; Look where Jackies left hand is at the moment of this last and fatal shot; Ya, her hand is right where that ENTRANCE WOUND in Kennedy's throat is. Coincidental?.

    Thoughts?.
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    Re: Jackie Killed JFK?

    There is no evidence whatsoever for this silly idea.

    It's weaker than the claim that Greer killed JFK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    There is no evidence whatsoever for this silly idea.

    It's weaker than the claim that Greer killed JFK.
    Forward this video too 2:01.

    See the bullet exit?.

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    Re: Jackie Killed JFK?

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    Forward this video too 2:01.

    See the bullet exit?.
    No one saw the bullet exit.

    Bullets travel too fast to be caught on such film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    No one saw the bullet exit.

    Bullets travel too fast to be caught on such film.
    No witness saw the bullet exit. No $hit.

    At 0:52, you can quite clearly see the bullet exiting through the top of Kennedy's head.

    You can also grey smoke as the explosion occurs. (Gun smoke)

    The entry wound was through the neck & out the top of the skull.

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    What type of gun did she use? I think if she had shot JFK at close range the doctors would have determined it was a shot at close range. http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/...NS/GUNINJ.html Did she shoot the same time as Greer or is this another seperate theory? You really don't believe this, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by porsteamboy View Post
    What type of gun did she use? I think if she had shot JFK at close range the doctors would have determined it was a shot at close range. http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/...NS/GUNINJ.html Did she shoot the same time as Greer or is this another seperate theory? You really don't believe this, do you?
    "The doctors".

    Separate theory that I'm starting to buy. Both her & Greer were defiantly in on it.

    Possible gun.




    Frank Sinatra and Marilyn Monroe named in Mafia 'sex parties' plot to smear Kennedys, FBI file reveals.

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    Family affair: Marilyn Monroe allegedly slept with the Kennedys

    The three Kennedy brothers were accused of having sex parties with Marilyn Monroe and members of Frank Sinatra's Rat Pack, according to FBI documents released yesterday.

    A Mafia informant tipped off the agency that the Mob wanted to use women supplied by 'associates of Sinatra' to embarrass the Kennedys. The Mafia had allegedly heard that John F Kennedy and his brothers Robert and Edward had attended the parties, held at a New York hotel.

    Also there were Monroe, Rat Pack members Sinatra, Sammy Davis Jr and Peter Lawford, and Lawford's wife, Patricia Kennedy - the brothers' sister. The Mafia wanted the women supplied by Sinatra's associates to 'be placed in compromising situations' with Robert and Edward Kennedy and Hollywood actor Lawford, it was alleged.

    The romps were supposedly held at John Kennedy's suite at the upmarket Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan. The Carlyle became known as 'the New York White House' during President Kennedy's administration. He was rumoured to have spent the night in the suite with Monroe after she sang Happy Birthday, Mr President at his 45th birthday celebration in 1962 at Madison Square Garden.

    The 'reliable' informant said the Mafia wanted to smear Robert Kennedy because of his war on organised crime when he was U.S. attorney general between 1961 and 1964, according to the declassified documents.



    Band of brothers: From left, John, Robert and Edward Kennedy, were the target of an alleged Mafia blackmail plot

    The tip-off didn't come until July 1965, nearly two years after JFK's assassination, and the FBI didn't launch an investigation.

    The file originated in the agency's Milwaukee office and included a memo claiming that a multimillionaire New York divorcee knew about the racy parties.

    'It was reported that Mrs Jacqueline Hammond, age 40, has considerable information concerning sex parties,' the memo read. Mrs Hammond, said to have been divorced from her husband, a former U.S. ambassador, also allegedly kept a room at The Carlyle.



    Party time: Marilyn Monroe talks to Frank Sinatra at Cal Neva Lodge in Crystal Bay, Nevada, in the Sixties



    Close ties: Robert Kennedy, right, with Peter Lawford and Frank Sinatra



    Venue: The Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan, where the parties reportedly took place

    While she was described as credible, the FBI didn't consider the information about the extortion attempt detailed enough to investigate. President Kennedy is said to have used a warren of tunnels to enter the hotel with guests, including Monroe, to avoid the media.

    The Carlyle has a reputation for discretion and was called a 'Palace of Secrets' by the New York Times. Rumours have swirled since the 1960s that Monroe had affairs with both John and Robert Kennedy. Biographers have speculated that when JFK broke off their affair, the actress turned to his younger brother. Both were married.

    The documents were part of a batch of more than 2,200 FBI documents in the late Edward Kennedy's file that were released to the public this week. 'The FBI did not consider the rumour solid,' said the bureau. 'And no other mention of it appears in the file suggesting that the informant did not supply any corroboration to the story.'

    Most of the papers concern various death threats made against the youngest Kennedy brother, who died last year from brain cancer. 'At no point do these files suggest that the FBI investigated him for a criminal violation or as a security threat,' added the bureau.
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    Re: Jackie Killed JFK?

    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    Did Jacqueline have Marilyn Monroe murdered as part of the deal?.

    Jealously?.

    You think that gun would have done it, I thought you said she crawled on the trunk to recover the empty shell, what, did she take it out and throw it and then went after it. Well, if you bought into the Greer theory I can see why you would buy into this one, all in a couple of days! :freak3:

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    Re: Jackie Killed JFK?

    http://synthesis.net/2008/04/14/the-...ex-tape-found/

    A long-buried sex movie of Marilyn Monroe recently hit the market, a top collector told The Post. An illicit copy of the steamy, still-FBI-classified reel - 15 minutes of 16mm film footage in which the original blond bombshell performs oral sex on an unidentified man - was just sold to a New York businessman for $1.5 million, said Keya Morgan, the well-known memorabilia collector who discovered the film and brokered its purchase.

    The footage appears to have been shot in the 1950s. When it came to light in the mid-’60s, then-FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover had his agents spend two weeks futilely trying to prove that Monroe’s sex partner was either John F. Kennedy or Robert F. Kennedy, according to declassified agency documents and interviews, Morgan said. The silent black-and-white flick shows Monroe on her knees in front of a man whose face is just out of the shot.

    Ouch Jacqueline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by porsteamboy View Post
    You think that gun would have done it, I thought you said she crawled on the trunk to recover the empty shell, what, did she take it out and throw it and then went after it. Well, if you bought into the Greer theory I can see why you would buy into this one, all in a couple of days! :freak3:
    I never rule anything out.

    Greer & Jacqueline are my main suspects.

    Could have Aristotle Onassis funded it?.

    Hmmmm....

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle_Onassis

    Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy

    Onassis ended his relationship with Callas to marry Jacqueline Kennedy, widow of U.S. President John F. Kennedy, on October 20, 1968. They married on Onassis' privately-owned island of Skorpios. It was said[by whom?] that Kennedy insisted on marriage rather than an affair so as to avoid upsetting her children.

    According to Peter Evans, Onassis offered Mrs. Kennedy US$3 million for herself and $1m for each son in return for marriage. After Onassis's death she would receive US$150,000 each year for the rest of her life. The whole marital contract was discussed with Ted Kennedy and later reviewed by André Meyer, her financial consultant.

    Onassis's daughter Christina made clear that she did not like Jacqueline Kennedy, and after Alexander's death, she convinced Onassis that Jacqueline had some kind of curse due to John and Robert Kennedy's murders. The relations between Aristotle and Jacqueline that were already not good came to an end.[19]
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    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    No witness saw the bullet exit. No $hit.

    At 0:52, you can quite clearly see the bullet exiting through the top of Kennedy's head.

    You can also grey smoke as the explosion occurs. (Gun smoke)

    The entry wound was through the neck & out the top of the skull.

    Um no there is no smoke visible and no such wound pattern as you claim.

    The wound in the front of his neck is an exit wound.

    Too many witnesses would have seen her shoot including the agent who was sprinting to catch up with and jump on the limo.

    Her hands held no gun period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Um no there is no smoke visible and no such wound pattern as you claim.
    Gun smoke & bullet trajectory can be clearly seen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    The wound in the front of his neck is an exit wound.
    Where is the entry wound located, to the neck exit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Too many witnesses would have seen her shoot including the agent who was sprinting to catch up with and jump on the limo.
    Clint Hill playing catch-up can barely see her arms, nevermind her hands from the back.

    He didn't have a birds-eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    Her hands held no gun period.
    Sleeve weapon?.
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    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    Gun smoke & bullet trajectory can be clearly seen.



    Where is the entry wound located, to the neck exit?



    Clint Hill playing catch-up can barely see her arms, nevermind her hands from the back.

    He didn't have a birds-eye.



    Sleeve weapon?.
    Now you have resorted to an outright lie.

    Much as 7FOREVER did over and over pointing pictures of of a gun in Greer's hand which simply does not exist.

    You are posting a blatent and outright lie when you claim you see see smoke and a bullet trajectory in that picture . And you know you are lying.

    The rest is meaningless. Clint Hill saw HER HANDS plain and clear not just her arms again you lie.

    Sleeve gun?

    Why not a poison dart of nunchucks.

    Stop watching movies and learn a few things about reality.

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    Bump..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by $ick3nin.vend3tta View Post
    Bump..............
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