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    The Christian Right: Liars Traitors, Hate Mongers!!!

    THE CHRISTIAN RIGHT: LIARS TRAITORS, HATE MONGERS!!!


    Quotations from Contemporary and Historical Christian Leaders


    This list used to be just a bunch of Christian Coalition quotes. I have recently expanded this site to include quotes from historical Christian figures, to illustrate that traditional Christian attitudes towards reason, science, freedom, and politics are well rooted in the past. Christianity, from it's first years in control of the Western World, has practiced and promoted racism, antisemitism, violence against women, superstition, distrust of science and medicine, and a variety of other nasty things.

    On the Separation of Church and State

    "Civil Officials must acknowledge the lordship of Christ, and obey his rules for civil governments."
    (Gary DeMar and Peter Leithart)

    "Monarchy is the best form of Government and a system inspired by God. Jesus was not called the 'Senator of senators,' He was called the 'King of Kings.'" (Bob Enyart, Christian Talk Show host, from his website, WWW.Enyart.com)

    "We believe that institutionally Christianity should be the official religion of the country, that its laws should be specifically Christian."
    (Rev. David Chilton, Church of the Redeemer, Placerville, CA.)

    "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant--baptism and holy communion--must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel."
    (Gary North, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1989), p. 87.)

    "The homos, the perverts, the rapists, the Democrats, the Liberals, and Hillary Clinton ALL love democracy. See, democracy brings socialism because the people vote to steal from other people. You cannot avoid the end-result of socialism." (Bob Enyart, responding to a charge that an innocent man might be accused of murder and put to death wrongly, from his website, WWW.Enyart.com)

    "So let us be blunt about it: we must use the doctrine of religious liberty to gain independence for Christian schools until we train up a generation of people who know that there is no religious neutrality, no neutral law, no neutral education, and no neutral civil government. Then they will get busy in constructing a Bible-based social, political and religious order which finally denies the religious liberty of the enemies of God."
    (Gary North, "The Intellectual Schizophrenia of the New Christian Right" in Christianity and Civilization: The Failure of the American Baptist Culture, No. 1 (Spring, 1982), p. 25.)

    "Should Christians govern and are Christians the only ones who are truly qualified to govern, and the answer is, of course, Yes." (Bob Enyart, Christian Talk Show host, from his website, WWW.Enyart.com)

    "The chuch today has fallen prey to the heresy of democracy."
    (R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law (Nutley, NJ: Craig Press, 1973), p. 747.)

    "Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free." (Pat Buchanan, September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition)
    In Right from the Beginning, Buchanan refers to Spanish dictator Francisco Franco as a "Catholic savior." He called Franco, along with Chile's Gen. Pinochet, "soldier-patriots." (syndicated column 9/17/89) Both men overthrew democracy in their countries, and murdered tens of thousands of innocent people.

    "This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."
    (Gary North, Political Polytheism: The Myth of Pluralism (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1989), p. 102)

    "There is a war waging in America. The battle is over values, beliefs and the cultural basis of western civilization.... The elitist avant-garde arts community uses the NEA to advertise and disseminate their political beliefs. The NEA then uses our scarce tax dollars to fund works which are intended to shock Americans into an acceptance of dysfunctional behavioral lifestyles and to destroy the family." (Lou Sheldon, Traditional Values Coalition, Hearing on the NEA, 4/91)

    "[The judiciary is] the lap dog of the death industry." (Randall Terry, Fresno, CA Bee, 8/20/89)

    "People have got to ask themselves . . . what kind of America do we want? What principles do we want guiding this country's education, judiciary? We want biblical principles. Because if we don't have biblical principles, we have heathenism. we have anything goes! We have humanism! We could have barbarism!" (Randall Terry, A Call to Action, 5/9/91)

    "Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office." (Beverly LaHaye, Concerned Women For America, In a Ms. magazine interview, 2/87)

    On multiculturalism, values clarification and self-esteem: "The Los Angeles riots, showing sickening disregard for the life and property of neighbors, were spawned right in our public school classrooms. We have been teaching multiculturalism instead of Americanism, for ten years now, and indoctrinating our children with values clarification and 'self-esteem.'" (Robert Simonds, CEE President's Report, 6/92)

    "We need strong school board members who know right from wrong. The Bible, being the only true source of right and wrong, should be the guide of board members. Only godly Christians can truly qualify for this critically important position...." (Robert Simonds, How to Elect Christians to Public Office, 1985)

    "What Christians have got to do is take back this country, one precinct at a time, one neighborhood at a time, and one state at a time...I honestly believe that in my lifetime we will see a country once again governed by Christians..." (Randall Terry, Religious News Service, 5/1/1990)

    "Christianity and politics not only do mix, but for democracy as we have known it to survive, they must mix." (Donald Wildmon, Quoted by the Miami Herald, 11/16/93)
    "They have kept us in submission because they have talked about separation of church and state. There is no such thing in the Constitution. It's a lie of the left, and we're not going to take it anymore." (PatRobertson, The State, Columbia, South Carolina, Nov. 14, 1993.)

    "If anyone understood what Hindus really believe, there would be no doubt that they have no business administering government policies." (Pat Robertson)

    "The Constitution of the United States, for instance, is a marvelous document for self-government by Christian people. But the minute you turn the document into the hands of non-Christian and atheistic people they can use it to destroy the very foundation of our society. " (Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Dec. 30, 1981)

    "There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America." (David Barton, president of Wallbuilders and a close ally of the Christian Coalition, 1994 Anti-Defamation League Report)

    "America should function as a Christian nation." (Randall Terry)

    "[We seek to] replace the heresy of democracy with Biblical law." (R. J. Rushdoony)

    "When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'" (Pat Robertson)

    "There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that sanctifies the separation of church and state." (Pat Robertson)

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    Re: The Christian Right: Liars Traitors, Hate Mongers!!!

    SAME WEB SITE:
    MORE RABID HATE FILLED LUNACY FROM SO-CALLED MEN OF GOD.


    "The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16).
    (Gary North, The Sinai Strategy: Economics and the Ten Commandments (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1986), pp. 59-60)

    "The courts are merely a ruse, if you will, for humanist, atheistic educators to beat up on Christians." (Pat Robertson, The 700 Club, Oct. 2,1990)

    "Most of these feminists are radical, frustrated lesbians, many of them, and man-haters, and failures in their relationships with men, and who have declared war on the male gender. The Biblical condemnation of feminism has to do with its radical philosophy and goals. That's the bottom line." (Jerry Falwell)

    "Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." (Rush Limbaugh, "The Way Things Ought to Be" (1994 edition)

    "[The] feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." (Fundraising letter from Pat Robertson that was an in-kind contribution to the Iowa Committee to Stop ERA, as reported in The Washington Post, August 23, 1993)

    "[multiculturalism is] an across-the-board assault on our Anglo-American heritage." (Pat Buchanan, in a September 1993 speech to the Christian Coalition

    "The background of the Negro culture is voodoo and magic; and the purposes the magic are control and power over God, man, nature and society. Voodoo and magic was the religion and life of America's Negro."
    (R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law (Nutley, NJ: Craig Press, 1973), p. 60)

    "The significance of Jesus Christ as the "faithful and true witness" is that He not only witnesses against those who are at war against God, but He also executes them."
    (R.J. Rushdoony, The Institutes of Biblical Law (Nutley, NJ: Craig Press, 1973), p. 574)

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    One quote worthy of more detailed review.
    Pat Robertson’s ignorance and stupidity is boundless.
    I wonder if he has ever read anything about American History..

    "The strategy against the American radical left should be the same as General Douglas MacArthur employed against the Japanese in the Pacific . .. bypass their strongholds, then surround them, isolate them bombard them, then blast the individuals out of their power bunkers with hand-to-hand combat. The battle for Iwo Jima was not pleasant, but our troops won it. The battle to regain the soul of America won't be pleasant either, but we will win it." ( Pat Robertson, in "Pat Robertson's Perspective," April -May 1992)

    OR MORE ACCURATELY:
    The strategy against the American radical left should be the same as General Douglas MacArthur employed against Bonus Expeditionary Force.
    Against American Citizens on American Soil.


    Bonus Army
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army

    .The Bonus Army or Bonus March or Bonus Expeditionary Force was an assemblage of about 20,000 World War I veterans, their families, and other affiliated groups, who demonstrated in Washington, D.C. during the spring and summer of 1932 seeking immediate payment of a "bonus" granted by the Adjusted Service Certificate Law of 1924 for payment in 1945. They were led by Walter W. Waters, a former Army sergeant, and encouraged by an appearance from retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler, one of the most popular military figures of the time………….

    The marchers were cleared and their camps were destroyed by the 12th Infantry Regiment from Fort Howard, Maryland, and the 2-3rd Cavalry Regiment under the command of MAJ. George S. Patton from Fort Myer, Virginia, under the overall command of General Douglas MacArthur.
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    I have not seen many of these quotes before, but they don't surprise me in the least. They rail against non-christians, muslims, gays, lesbians,etc, etc, etc. But when Christians blow up building in Oklahoma City and kill 180 people, including 30 children. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christians kill thousands of unarmed civilians in Iraq. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christian priests rape little boys for years and years and are allowed to continue this behavior by the Vatican. Where's the Christian outrage.

    A Christian in Wichita Kansas goes around killing people for about 15 years. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Let's go way back. Christians enslave an entire race of people for over 100 years. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christians dress up in robes and hood and hang people all over the country because they're black. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Religion.... what's it good for.... absolutely nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    I have not seen many of these quotes before, but they don't surprise me in the least. They rail against non-christians, muslims, gays, lesbians,etc, etc, etc. But when Christians blow up building in Oklahoma City and kill 180 people, including 30 children. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christians kill thousands of unarmed civilians in Iraq. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christian priests rape little boys for years and years and are allowed to continue this behavior by the Vatican. Where's the Christian outrage.

    A Christian in Wichita Kansas goes around killing people for about 15 years. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Let's go way back. Christians enslave an entire race of people for over 100 years. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Christians dress up in robes and hood and hang people all over the country because they're black. Where's the Christian outrage?

    Religion.... what's it good for.... absolutely nothing!
    Your so full of Hate its blinded you.
    What Christians blew up a building in Oklahoma?
    What christian Priest rapes little boys over and over?
    What Christian in Wichita Goes around killing people?
    What Christians go around hanging people because they are black?

    You seem to be confusing Christians with those who just claim they are.
    If I go and blow up a building and kill many, and then say I did it in the name of God, does that make me a Christian?
    Or in the name of Alah, does that make me Islamic?
    No.
    I am a Christian and I would never dream of doing anything remotely close.
    You seem to live your life in attack mode and thats a sad way to live.

    You got issues man.
    You need to find some other way of dealing with them other than pointing the finger at everyone else.

    You seem to think everyone else is the problem and you are the answer.
    Come down off your soap box, you have faults of your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    Your so full of Hate its blinded you.
    You're head is so far up your ass, it's blinded you.
    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    What Christians blew up a building in Oklahoma?
    Timothy McVeigh - Dropout, Soldier, Christian.
    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    What christian Priest rapes little boys over and over?
    John Geoghan - Priest, Convicted child sex abuser, Christian.
    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    What Christian in Wichita Goes around killing people?
    Dennis L. Rader - President of the church council of Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita, Murderer, Christian.
    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    What Christians go around hanging people because they are black?
    KKK - "Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!", murders, Christians.

    Quote Originally Posted by gools68
    You seem to be confusing Christians with those who just claim they are.
    If I go and blow up a building and kill many, and then say I did it in the name of God, does that make me a Christian?
    Or in the name of Alah, does that make me Islamic?
    Yes.

    It's time you so-called christians open your eyes and step into reality. You are so proud to call someone your "brother", and so quick to condemn them if they don't do as you say. You are disgusting filth who use christianity for your own purposes. You tell the rest of us you are so much better than us and while you stick your dirty tongues in a little child's privates, you quote Bible verses at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    You're head is so far up your ass, it's blinded you.

    Timothy McVeigh - Dropout, Soldier, Christian.
    John Geoghan - Priest, Convicted child sex abuser, Christian.
    Dennis L. Rader - President of the church council of Christ Lutheran Church in Wichita, Murderer, Christian.
    KKK - "Bringing a Message of Hope and Deliverance to White Christian America!", murders, Christians.


    Yes.

    It's time you so-called christians open your eyes and step into reality. You are so proud to call someone your "brother", and so quick to condemn them if they don't do as you say. You are disgusting filth who use christianity for your own purposes. You tell the rest of us you are so much better than us and while you stick your dirty tongues in a little child's privates, you quote Bible verses at the same time.

    And let's not forget the truly deranged, right-wing Evagelical phonies and whack jobs like Robertson who wholly support and encourage The Zio-Nazis' campaign of murder and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.... many of whom are Christians.

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    I could call my pet dog "Duck", but it won't make him quack.

    Gools seems to have been making that point, and was told his head is up his arse for doing so as his elementary observation was dismissed.

    Which only seems to have substantiated his point.

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    You Hypocrits. You are on here accusing Christians of hate.
    But look at the spirit that this thread was started in, Hate.
    Im surprised the Mods even let this thread go on.

    The KKK is not Christian.
    The Christian creed is made up of many races, not just one.

    As I and Yirmey have pointed out, commiting crimes in the name of God does not make anyone Christian. I dont care what title they hold.
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    Re: The Christian Right: Liars Traitors, Hate Mongers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dchristie
    And let's not forget the truly deranged, right-wing Evagelical phonies and whack jobs like Robertson who wholly support and encourage The Zio-Nazis' campaign of murder and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.... many of whom are Christians.
    And where is the christian outrage when Palestinians are being wiped from the face of the earth? We don't see any outrage from christians until the Palestinians have had enough and fight back. Then the christians chastize them and call them terrorists for doing what any American would do if America was cut up and given to someone else.

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    Re: The Christian Right: Liars Traitors, Hate Mongers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    And where is the christian outrage when Palestinians are being wiped from the face of the earth? We don't see any outrage from christians until the Palestinians have had enough and fight back. Then the christians chastize them and call them terrorists for doing what any American would do if America was cut up and given to someone else.

    Indeed. These days, anybody who calls themselves a "Christian" is, at a minimum, a self deluded liar and probably a Zio-Nazi Terrorist supporter as well - until proven otherwise. In the case of Robertson and Fallwell, you can add thief and con-artist to the mix.

    There are a few exceptions. But they are very few.
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    Hi Username,

    In the past, I have agreed with your view, on many topics. However, this time I must strongly disagree, with your equating the Christian religion, with those who are criminals and degenerates.

    It is not fair, or even sensible, to make the statement that Timothy McVeigh is a "Christian" and because of that fact, his terrorist act is representative of the religion. :(

    I think you know that. I am not religious myself, but I do respect any organization that teaches, love and tolerance. Those particular ethics are taught in every religion. When humans pervert religion for their own ends, it is not the fault of religion. It is the fault of human beings.

    Religion, and its primary function, is to try and explain our existence. Bring order and method, to our very, very, precarious lives. ALL religions do this, and ALL religions are used by the powerful to manipulate other people. It is the nature, of our particular beast.

    So, come on Username, be a little more fair about religion. :) People are the problem, not our innate desire, to understand this big cruel joke called, life.rolleyes:

    DeeDee1965


    And yes, I am a lifetime member of the, Misanthropic Society of America. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee1965
    Hi Username,

    In the past, I have agreed with your view, on many topics. However, this time I must strongly disagree, with your equating the Christian religion, with those who are criminals and degenerates.

    It is not fair, or even sensible, to make the statement that Timothy McVeigh is a "Christian" and because of that fact, his terrorist act is representative of the religion. :(

    I think you know that. I am not religious myself, but I do respect any organization that teaches, love and tolerance. Those particular ethics are taught in every religion. When humans pervert religion for their own ends, it is not the fault of religion. It is the fault of human beings.

    Religion, and its primary function, is to try and explain our existence. Bring order and method, to our very, very, precarious lives. ALL religions do this, and ALL religions are used by the powerful to manipulate other people. It is the nature, of our particular beast.

    So, come on Username, be a little more fair about religion. :) People are the problem, not our innate desire, to understand this big cruel joke called, life.rolleyes:

    DeeDee1965


    And yes, I am a lifetime member of the, Misanthropic Society of America. ;)

    The problem is religion, not people, DD. If people realized that this life is all they get, they would make the best use of it possible. "Live life like your on fire". This false hope that you will live again or that you will spend eternity in some wonderful place has people bamboozled into believing they can fvck this life up and still be ok. It is patent bullsh!t to believe there is life after death. Mankind is nothing more than a gifted creature with it's beginning in the womb and it's end in the grave.

    Once you believe in mankind and not some bahl-like deity, you will be less tolerant of the ones who preach lies and deception and see life for it preciousness. Religion is only concerned with it's own preservation, and it doesn't care how many millions die to preserve it's existence.

    Timothy McVeigh was born a Christian, baptizes a Christian, and died a Christian with a man of god by his side. Religion is dictated by where you are born, nothing more. If Timothy McVeigh was born in Jordan and did the same thing he did, you would not be so quick to jump to the defence of Islam. You too were born in "Christian territory" and therefore will defend christianity. If you were born in Syria you would defend Islam. It is just ridiculous.

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    Re: The Christian Right: Liars Traitors, Hate Mongers!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeDee1965
    Hi Username,
    It is not fair, or even sensible, to make the statement that Timothy McVeigh is a "Christian" and because of that fact, his terrorist act is representative of the religion. :(
    Well….. There is still a lot of debate on this so the statement you made has never been proven correct.
    Since Tim is dead no new interviews are expected..

    Why was the date of the bombing linked to the Waco Anniversary?
    On McViegh:
    http://www.ffrf.org/fttoday/1995/may95/oklahoma.html

    Is Terrorism Tied To Christian Sect? On: Olympic bomber Eric Robert Rudolph
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer

    “Although he and his accomplice Terry Nichols received help from far-right Christian militia groups……..”
    http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/cr.../eric-rudolph/

    Terry Nichols
    http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/cr...terry-nichols/

    Elohim City
    http://www.rotten.com/library/histor...m/elohim-city/


    My opinion is that McVeigh’s personal believes are not significant. The fact remains that there are numerous links to Lunatic Christian sects. He and Nichols were used knowingly or not as pointmen for these ultra-violent self proclaimed Christians. They also practice and encourage violent acts openly. They are not secret societies and have broad support is some very small communities. The similarities in believes and to the rhetoric employed by Fallwell, Robertson can not be ignored.



    PSB
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    On Creating new Tm McVieghs

    Mega-church minister linked to paramilitary video game

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/29/203330/248

    Imagine: you are a foot soldier in a paramilitary group whose purpose is to remake America as a Christian theocracy, and establish its worldly vision of the dominion of Christ over all aspects of life. You are issued high-tech military weaponry, and instructed to engage the infidel on the streets of New York City. You are on a mission - both a religious mission and a military mission -- to convert or kill Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, gays, and anyone who advocates the separation of church and state - especially moderate, mainstream Christians. Your mission is "to conduct physical and spiritual warfare"; all who resist must be taken out with extreme prejudice. You have never felt so powerful, so driven by a purpose: you are 13 years old. You are playing a real-time strategy video game whose creators are linked to the empire of mega-church pastor Rick Warren, best selling author of The Purpose Driven Life.

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    More on Tim:

    The Tim McVeigh and the Christian Identity Connection

    Tim McVeigh sees himself as martyr protesting an evil government and calls the 168 people he murdered when he blew up the Murrah Federal Building "collateral damage." To most Americans he is a coward devoid of emotion or reason. What the press fails to report is he is a product of Christian Identity and their holy war against ZOG.
    http://www.sullivan-county.com/identity/cal_shoot.htm

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