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    Autonations Car Dealerships/ Bankston Ford

    Bankston Ford in Frisco, TX actually has on all of the vehicles a so called product called "perima-plate" and they claim it is an extra paint protectant that is suppose to keep the paint on your new ford looking brand new and is kinda like a warrenty if it does not..

    They up charge you $1,000 for this..

    It is a scam.. There is no such product..

    The sales person on the test drive we went on in a new EB Ford Expidetion mentioned this to me.. He told me not to worry about this because this will be taken off if I just make a beef about it with the Manager.. He told me that he is a ford certified sales person and that he knows for a fact that this is the case.

    Every single car on the lot has this listed on the addindem sticker..

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    Re: Autonations Car Dealerships/ Bankston Ford

    http://www.permaplate.com/Paintguard.asp

    ??

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    Re: Autonations Car Dealerships/ Bankston Ford

    Even if the dealership does put this on the car in which I am 100% sure they don't.. It sure is not worth $1000.00.. Maybe $20.00..

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    Re: Autonations Car Dealerships/ Bankston Ford

    A more fair price would be $150, for the product and labor to apply it to the vehicle.
    I've worked in serveral auto dealerships and this is where the 'business office' makes a profit, paint protection, rust proofing, undercoating etc...

    $1000 is pure greed!

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    Re: Autonations Car Dealerships/ Bankston Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by TurboZombie
    A more fair price would be $150, for the product and labor to apply it to the vehicle.
    I've worked in serveral auto dealerships and this is where the 'business office' makes a profit, paint protection, rust proofing, undercoating etc...

    $1000 is pure greed!
    it's a greedy farce! it's just paint sealant that you can buy anywhere. maybe not that exact brand, but similer products that help preserve the paint just the same. it reminds me of that electronic rust control scam that's supposed to stop rust formation on your car using an electric current. it's also a farce! it only works on underground pipes & steel hull's of ships because they are submerged in a conductive fluid....

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    Worldwide RV sales Inc. Scam Artists

    I was scamed on E-Bay Motors. This item # 4618259223 was placed for sale on a buy it now or make an offer. Even though I have been an ebay buyer and seller for three years, I was not familiar with this process. I placed a best offer bid after talking to the owner - RV dealer by phone. On the phone he assured me the RV was well maintained and was in great condition, "RV RUNS GREAT AND SHIFTS EFFORTLESSLY FROM GEAR TO GEAR. NO ENGINE LEAKS, RUNS VERY QUIET AND HAS BEEN VERY WELL MAINTAINED. THIS COACH HAS BEEN SAFETY CHECKED AND DRIVEN OVER 100 MILES AND IS READY TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE US! I WOULD NOT HESTITATE TO GET IN THE COACH AND HEAD FOR CALIFORNIA TODAY. THIS COACH WAS SOLD TO US BY A 78 YEAR OLD GENTLEMAN WHO REALLY SERVICED AND MAINTAINED THIS COACH TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS. OIL WAS CHANGED EVERY 3000 MILES AND IT WAS SERVICED REGULARLY EVERY 6 MONTHS BY A CERTIFIED RV MECHANIC " .
    On the morning of the 6th of March 2006 Mr. Casamento called me to say he had accepted my bid of $13,300.00 and to wire transfer the $2500.00 deposit. At that time he stated he would show the offer as being accepted on ebay after he received the deposit. Having never bought a vehicle on ebay before using a " best offer " I just assumed that was the way it worked. Little did I know this was all part of his scam. What he did was canceled the auction, by-passing E-Bay and the buyers protection it provides. This is a professional con artist.
    My wife and I flew to Florida the next day all excited to take delivery of our new RV. Mr. Casamento demanded cash only for the remaining amount due $10,949.00. Although the RV was rougher inside than the pictures showed and had not been cleaned like he said his partner Kevin had "spent all day vacuuming and cleaning". Again he assured us mechanically the coach was in sound condition. We took delivery of the RV and drove away from his RV dealership. Immediately I noticed a swaying in the back end of the RV. Upon stopping and walking around the RV, I crawled underneath the RV and the inside duel tire on the drivers side had a hole in it the size of my fist. Obviously having been blown out for some time. We went to a tire repair shop to have the spare tire put on. At the tire shop the manager looked at all the tires on the RV and said you need to replace all eight tires. He told us that on RVís any tire that is over six years old will start to dry rot the side walls. In checking the DOT # on the tires he determined the tires were from 10 to 20 years old and were dry rotted. We could not afford the replace the tires so we started off on our 2000 miles headed home to Colorado. We went about 30 miles when we were overcome by exhaust and gas fumes. "NO ENGINE LEAKS, HAS NO LEAKS, NO ODORS NO SMOKING " was in the description. Then the second tire blew out. The right side tag axle. The RV could not be towed so a new tire was put on where it sat. After the tire was fixed the RV would not start so the tire repair man called his shop to send a certified mechanic. When the mechanic opened the engine dog house he immediately asked how many miles were on the RV. It was at this time we discovered the title we were given by Mr. Casamento said Actual Miles 57,976 but in checking the odometer it showed less miles. The mechanic stated the engine appeared to have over 150,000 miles on it. Meaning we had been lied to and scammed. The engine had not been serviced for 10ís of thousands of miles. Air cleaner clogged, spark plugs fouled. "THIS COACH IS POWERED BY THE LEGENDARY FORD 460 ENGINE WITH ONLY 57,000 DOCUMENTED MILES AND IS CARBORATED, NOT FUEL INJECTED. RV RUNS GREAT AND SHIFTS EFFORTLESSLY FROM GEAR TO GEAR. NO ENGINE LEAKS, RUNS VERY QUIET AND HAS BEEN VERY WELL MAINTAINED. THIS COACH HAS BEEN SAFETY CHECKED AND DRIVEN OVER 100 MILES AND IS READY TO TRAVEL ANYWHERE IN THE US! I WOULD NOT HESTITATE TO GET IN THE COACH AND HEAD FOR CALIFORNIA TODAY. THIS COACH WAS SOLD TO US BY A 78 YEAR OLD GENTLEMAN WHO REALLY SERVICED AND MAINTAINED THIS COACH TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS. OIL WAS CHANGED EVERY 3000 MILES AND IT WAS SERVICED REGULARLY EVERY 6 MONTHS BY A CERTIFIED RV MECHANIC"
    All lies and all part of his scam. The fuel pump was out, the engine was running on 7 cylinders, the alternator was out. The only way we could go on was to replace the engine. $3500.00. We were left with no alternative but to leave the RV and come home to Colorado.
    This man, his wife and partner are professional con artists. He laughs at us on reporting this scam to ebay, saying we bought it outside of ebay. I had no control over his canceling the auction instead of showing what really happened of his accepting my best offer bid. It is all part of his scam there-by avoiding an investigation. Please help us put this scam artist out of business and off ebay. This group is using ebay to find victims for their fraud business then bypassing ebay protection for the consumer.
    These Scam Artists are:
    Brenda & Greg Casamento
    DBA :Worldwide RV Sales Inc
    DBA: Carriages Unlimited
    389 Apache Trail
    Ormond Beach, FL 32174
    Phone: 386-212-2541
    Email: floridamallgirl@cfl.rr.com
    Last edited by ryanh07; 03-23-2006 at 09:01 PM.

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    Re: Worldwide RV sales Inc. Scam Artists

    I understand how you feel.

    ButÖ

    I am an engineer, mechanic and RV owner. Why didn't you inspect the RV before you handed over the big check? If these scam people said no you could of walked away and only lost your deposit. Almost all of your problems could have been detected by any mechanic in 15 minutes. Yes they conned you but you did so many things wrong you played into their hands.

    It seems that for some reason people seem to be put at ease by used cars sold on e-bay. But the fact is that a used car is still a used car and back in the old days no one trusted anything the owner said and would have such a car checked out before handing over a dime.

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    Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    Our Real Life Experience with
    KIA ATLANTA SOUTH, MORROW, GA
    We purchased a KIA Sedona Van from Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA


    Since we purchased this vehicle, we have spent A LOT of time trying to get it to drive properly to our satisfaction. To date (July 21, 2006) it is 2 months since the date we drove it off of the lot and it is still not driving properly.

    My husband discovered the very first week we had it that he felt the vehicle was pulling to the left and felt there had to be some problem with it.

    We have documentation to back up everything that we are stating here and images will be included of all of the receipts from the dealer's service center as well as those from independent service centers that have looked at the vehicle to tell us what they think is wrong with it.

    Today (JULY 21, 2006) the owner of the dealership, Mr. Craig Fields, basically told us to "get lost" in his own words. My husband called to ask him if he would himself test drive our vehicle to tell us if he thought it was normal for a brand new vehicle to drive the way it drives. He claimed he would NOT do so because he is not a mechanic and is not qualified to determine what is wrong with the van. My husband reminded him that ANYONE would be able to determine there is something wrong with the way this vehicle is driving. You don't have to be a mechanic to know that if your vehicle immediately goes into the next lane when you simply take your hands off of the wheel for a split second that there is something wrong with how it is driving.

    June 6, 2006
    Van brought in for first service center visit because while driving my husband realized it is pulling to the left. They claimed to have done an alignment on it on this day.

    June 23, 2006
    Van returned to service center, still pulling to left. Invoice shows that alignment is still needed and that they claim steering is off center.

    June 27, 2006
    Van returns to service center for 2nd alignment.

    July 6, 2006
    Van returns to service center, still pulling to left. Both front tires are replaced since they think something is wrong with the tires. They claim the vehicle is aligned again. Do you see a pattern forming here? Do they know what they are doing?

    July 8, 2006
    My husband takes the vehicle to Firestone (Tire Specialists) for an inspection of tires and findings. Firestone determines tires are out of balance and that there are defects in two of the tires on this van. My husband has 3 service technicians verify the findings to make sure that there are no mistakes in their inspection.

    July 10, 2006
    They give us another identical van to drive to the one we bought. After driving it for 5 days, we are well aware that it drives 100% better than the one we have purchased.

    July 12, 2006
    Warning Lights come on on the driving panel indicating a problem with 2 of the tires. Extreme steering wheel vibration and vehicle vibration while driving on highways. They claim there is nothing wrong with the vehicle after driving it for 22 miles. They recalibrate the tire pressure sensors.

    July 13, 2006
    We return to the service center to get our van back. Now they have lost our key! We cannot pick up our van! They never find the key!!! Also they never called us to tell us they were done with our vehicle.

    July 14, 2006
    My husband goes back to get the van, they still can't find our key!

    July 21, 2006
    My husband called the tire company yesterday and had us take it to another tire professional that they recommend we visit. They balance the tires again. According to their findings the left rear tire is "out of round" which is causing the vibration.

    I might also add a few days ago that the finance company called to tell me our payment was 10 days late. The dealership had agreed to pay our first payment but never took care of that detail. Additionally the finance company never sent me a statement to let me know when the payment was due ever until after they called me to tell me the payment was late. I call the dealership and I get the same run around kind of treatment they have been giving us ever since we bought the vehicle. Then someone calls me to tell me they will overnight ship the check. The following day the finance company calls me again to tell me they still haven't received any payment.

    Today July 21, 2006, I finally receive a payment statement only because I told them I never got one.

    The owner of the dealership is no longer interested in helping us to get our vehicle to drive properly so we are now forced to seek alternative resolution.

    I would think twice before buying a vehile at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA.

    I would also add that we took the vehicle to another dealership for service and it has been noted that there are major problems with this vehicle that the original dealer that sold it to us is not willing to admit.

    I will gladly add more information as we learn more.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    So far, the vehicle has not been fixed to our satisfaction and now we have to wait even longer to see what will happen.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    The only 2 I have not had problems with are:

    Chevrolet

    Volkswagen

    You are better off with either American or German cars, trucks and vans. Their dealership and repair service is simply superb.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    Consumers can go to the national BBB website www.bbb.org and can file a complaint via BBB AUTOLINE.

    This is a program many national car manufactures participate in including KIA (i think).

    This complaint sounds like it would be needing to be handeled by the Manufactur not the car dealer.

    This is often how alot of the car manufactures find out about recalls and such.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    This is another example of why consumers need to do alittle reseach before deciding whom to do business with.
    The Better Business Bureau will often expose those types of companies who don't care about a problem and don't make a good faith effort to resolve them.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    I only went there because my husband wanted to go..........trust me, Kia was not at the top of my list - it would have been at the bottom of the list.

    We already involved the BBB and the mfgr.

    We took it for their last repair attempt and in my opinion it is driving worse at lower speeds than before.

    The next forms to file are for replacement or repurchase, so much for quick resolution.

    I will keep this post updated.

    I will tell you we got MUCH BETTER SERVICE at another dealer where they actually do their own work. We found out that the dealer we bought from doesn't do most of the work, they send it out to who knows where for service, so we have no idea who actually worked on it.

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    Quote Originally Posted by Deafdude
    The only 2 I have not had problems with are:

    Chevrolet

    Volkswagen

    You are better off with either American or German cars, trucks and vans. Their dealership and repair service is simply superb.
    I'm glad you found Chevy to be okay, I owned one once and I don't like them very much.

    I heard that VW is expensive to fix, is that true?

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    Re: Unethical business practices at Kia Atlanta South in Morrow, GA

    Here is the final update to this dilemma we faced all summer. When the BBB sent an inspector to come and drive our van, they reported that our claims were true and within 24 hours the manufacturer's rep. called us to go the next step.

    We picked up our replacement vehicle Friday of last week. It was the same exact van we drove for 5 days when they had ours in the shop.

    We are satisfied now with the outcome. Now it is up to them to deal with that vehicle. I have talked to several Kia owners who are very satisfied with their vehicles.

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    Planet AutoMall, Long Island City, NY

    Mine situation and experience is 100x worst. On August 8, I spoke with Frank (Fahim) about my Infiniti G35x which they had advertised for $21,995 online. I came in with the ad, and a 2000 Audi A6 with 85k. They offered me $7000, I said hell no (KBB quote= $12000). We finally settled at $8500 and they also wanted $1000 down payment. So put down $9500. I was in the dealership for about 6hrs, it was 10PM because Imran Khan (their only finance manager) was busy. They feed me a bunch of bull****, i.e, $4000 in "Recondition Fee" atop a $990 for "DF/Prep" fee, $995 "Pro Fees" $1875 "Bronze Pkg fee" and my Extended Warranty fee for $2400. I debated with them about all these fees and they were very illusive and evasive at best, and kept saying that the finance manager "will take care of you" and that he certainly. By the time I finally sat down to speak with Imran, I was exhausted, yet excited, most importantly, dreaded my hour and half commute back to Princeton, NJ.

    Anyway, when it was all said and done, I was financing $24,500 at an 9%APR with a Credit Score over 730. Meanwhile I had asked for the Owners Manual and the DVD Navi disc, which Jay swore was available, then later changed his story to "the bank that own the cars usually keep those things and mail to the new Owner." I bought it. In retrospect, I see the "dings" that should have went off in my head. I immediately called the dealership the next day to explain over 6k in fees and what-not. They gave me the run-around and I started filling complaints with various Bureaus; Office of the Attorney General, DMV Consumer Fraud and Protection. They are not a member of Better Business in their district. Then Jay, said that in order to get the Manual and Navi disc, I would have to come to the Dealership and sign a paper saying that I am "completely satisfied with the transaction and that the Dealership doesn't owe me anything else.

    A little over a month (Sept 15) with all this going on, I got into my first car accident trying to avoid hitting an idiot coming too far out at an intersection. Front Bumper and underneath badly damaged, windshield smashed from me hitting the speed limit sign. I avoided a ditch and few oak trees, thank God for the VDC. The car sat at Repair shop for 30 days, made my first payment without it. Last month I hear back from the Attorney General's office with a letter from the dealership saying that they will give me my refund. I didn't want a refund, just for them to knock-off the excess fees, but I went there on Saturday and they said they can longer do anything since the carfax reports that the car was in an accident. They refinanced it and 8% lowering my payment but instead of 72mths, now it's for 84mths, and claimed that they did something grand for me. They wanted me to sign a paper stating that "I am completely satisfied and the dealership no longer owes me anything" and they will give me the Navi disc and owner's manual that they owned from the get-go. I told them I was not going to sign it and I walked away with the Navi disc.

    I don't know what else to do, but to chalk it up as a life lesson and do my best not to ever repeat it. I arrived at this forum by googling them to see if investigative journalist have ran stories on them, i figured I couldn't be the only one that got banboozled. A friend told me to contact "Shame on You." But what are the chances that they will run the story. Maybe if we can get more victims or similar experiences. Anyone out there with an idea, please share. Thanks

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