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    USA Today's NSA story falling apart.

    Kind of smells a bit like Rather-Gate if you ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Verizon
    NEW YORK -- Verizon Communications Inc. (NYSE:VZ) today issued the following statement regarding news coverage about the NSA program which the President has acknowledged authorizing against al-Qaeda:
    As the President has made clear, the NSA program he acknowledged authorizing against al-Qaeda is highly-classified. Verizon cannot and will not comment on the program. Verizon cannot and will not confirm or deny whether it has any relationship to it.

    That said, media reports made claims about Verizon that are simply false.

    One of the most glaring and repeated falsehoods in the media reporting is the assertion that, in the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Verizon was approached by NSA and entered into an arrangement to provide the NSA with data from its customers’ domestic calls.

    This is false. From the time of the 9/11 attacks until just four months ago, Verizon had three major businesses – its wireline phone business, its wireless company and its directory publishing business. It also had its own Internet Service Provider and long-distance businesses. Contrary to the media reports, Verizon was not asked by NSA to provide, nor did Verizon provide, customer phone records from any of these businesses, or any call data from those records. None of these companies – wireless or wireline – provided customer records or call data.

    Another error is the claim that data on local calls is being turned over to NSA and that simple "calls across town" are being "tracked." In fact, phone companies do not even make records of local calls in most cases because the vast majority of customers are not billed per call for local calls. In any event, the claim is just wrong. As stated above, Verizon’s wireless and wireline companies did not provide to NSA customer records or call data, local or otherwise.

    Again, Verizon cannot and will not confirm or deny whether it has any relationship to the classified NSA program. Verizon always stands ready, however, to help protect the country from terrorist attack. We owe this duty to our fellow citizens. We also have a duty, that we have always fulfilled, to protect the privacy of our customers. The two are not in conflict. When asked for help, we will always make sure that any assistance is authorized by law and that our customers’ privacy is safeguarded.
    If you don't like my copy/paste job, you can read it from their website:
    http://newscenter.verizon.com/proact....vtml?id=93450


    Quote Originally Posted by BellSouth
    ATLANTA, May 15 /PRNewswire/ -- The following statement regarding media reports about U.S. governmental agency data collection may be attributed to BellSouth Corporation (NYSE: BLS):
    There has been much speculation in the last several days about the role that BellSouth may have played in efforts by the National Security Agency (NSA) and other governmental agencies to keep our nation safe.

    As a result of media reports that BellSouth provided massive amounts of customer calling information under a contract with the NSA, the Company conducted an internal review to determine the facts. Based on our review to date, we have confirmed no such contract exists and we have not provided bulk customer calling records to the NSA.

    BellSouth has built a successful business because of the trust that our customers have placed with us. We will continue to take our obligations to our customers seriously.
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    http://bellsouth.mediaroom.com/index...ases&item=2860

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    Re: USA Today's NSA story falling apart.

    Perhaps you should read this.....

    New Presidential Memorandum Permits Intelligence Director To Authorize Telcos To Lie Without Violating Securities Law

    In recent days, AT&T, Bell South and Verizon have all issued statements denying that they've handed over phone records to the NSA, as reported by USA today.

    There are three possibilities:

    1) The USA Today story is inaccurate;

    2) The telcos left enough wiggle room in the statements that both the USA Today story and their statements are accurate; or

    3) The statements from the telcos are inaccurate.

    Ordinarily, a company that conceals their transactions and activities from the public would violate securities law. But an presidential memorandum signed by the President on May 5 allows the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, to authorize a company to conceal activities related to national security. (See 15 U.S.C. 78m(b)(3)(A))

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/new-executive-order

    Presidential memorandum...
    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...06/06-4538.htm

    US Code...
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...8---m000-.html

    Can we actually believe someone who has been authorised to lie by the President? :D

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    Re: USA Today's NSA story falling apart.

    Quote Originally Posted by UserName
    Perhaps you should read this.....

    New Presidential Memorandum Permits Intelligence Director To Authorize Telcos To Lie Without Violating Securities Law

    In recent days, AT&T, Bell South and Verizon have all issued statements denying that they've handed over phone records to the NSA, as reported by USA today.

    There are three possibilities:

    1) The USA Today story is inaccurate;

    2) The telcos left enough wiggle room in the statements that both the USA Today story and their statements are accurate; or

    3) The statements from the telcos are inaccurate.

    Ordinarily, a company that conceals their transactions and activities from the public would violate securities law. But an presidential memorandum signed by the President on May 5 allows the Director of National Intelligence, John Negroponte, to authorize a company to conceal activities related to national security. (See 15 U.S.C. 78m(b)(3)(A))

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/17/new-executive-order

    Presidential memorandum...
    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...06/06-4538.htm

    US Code...
    http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...8---m000-.html

    Can we actually believe someone who has been authorised to lie by the President? :D

    Nope. And wasn't that convienient for them that good ol' Pres issued that memorandum just in the nick of time?

    Of course, the neocons will still believe the lies, that's what they've been doing for the last 6 years. :D

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    Re: USA Today's NSA story falling apart.

    Quote Originally Posted by sojustask
    Nope. And wasn't that convienient for them that good ol' Pres issued that memorandum just in the nick of time?

    Of course, the neocons will still believe the lies, that's what they've been doing for the last 6 years. :D

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    And of course the left will still believe that everyone is lying, thats what they've been believing for the last 6 years.
    A giant mushroom cloud, 24 empty missile tubes... It's Miller Time!

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    Re: USA Today's NSA story falling apart.

    Quote Originally Posted by USNavySubSailor
    And of course the left will still believe that everyone is lying, thats what they've been believing for the last 6 years.
    bible says ...everyman a liar!?what's "YOUR" opinion!?dont blame me!!i didn't start the "INQUISITION"....."W" made the case!/or should we blame mr. piggy..ROVE!?hehe!just askin..........do you mind!?hehe!!

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