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    Thermodynamics

    http://www.climategate.com/german-ph...ming-theory%22


    The central claims of Dr. Gerlich and his colleague, Dr. Ralf Tscheuschner, include, but are not limited to:

    1) The mechanism of warming in an actual greenhouse is different than the mechanism of warming in the atmosphere, therefore it is not a “greenhouse” effect and should be called something else.

    2) The climate models that predict catastrophic global warming also result in a net heat flow from atmospheric greenhouse gasses to the warmer ground, which is in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

    Essentially, any machine which transfers heat from a low temperature reservoir to a high temperature reservoir without external work applied cannot exist. If it did it would be a “perpetual motion machine” – the realm of pure sci-fi.

    Gerlich’s and Tscheuschner’s independent theoretical study is detailed in a lengthy (115 pages), mathematically complex (144 equations, 13 data tables, and 32 figures or graphs), and well-sourced (205 references) paper. The German physicists prove that even if CO2 concentrations double (a prospect even global warming advocates admit is decades away), the thermal conductivity of air would not change more than 0.03%. They show that the classic concept of the glass greenhouse wholly fails to replicate the physics of Earth’s climate. They also prove that a greenhouse operates as a “closed” system while the planet works as an “open” system and the term “atmospheric greenhouse effect” does not occur in any fundamental work involving thermodynamics, physical kinetics, or radiation theory.

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    Re: Thermodynamics

    Here is a pretty good debunking of their claim that SLOT disproves the Greenhouse issue. It's a bit above my head in detail but, the basics can be followed.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1...ass-themselves
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    Re: Thermodynamics

    DailyKos.

    You no doubt get much of your *information* there.

    It is a *rich* source of science.

    For the uninitiated, DailyKos is a few hundred kilometers below Al Gorian science. It is a mouthpiece for the Socialist Party of the USA.
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    Re: Thermodynamics

    Quote Originally Posted by BarackZero View Post
    DailyKos.

    You no doubt get much of your *information* there.

    It is a *rich* source of science.

    For the uninitiated, DailyKos is a few hundred kilometers below Al Gorian science. It is a mouthpiece for the Socialist Party of the USA.
    Really...it's a shame you can't debunk the science. Regardless of what you think of Al Gore or the Daily Kos, the arguments of the article stand.
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