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  1. #1
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    Mar 2005

    Ex-CIA Analyst Tears Rummy A New One In Public

    The video is all over the place. I'd hardly call it heckling though. Ray McGovern , a 27 year CIA veteran, was simply demanding some honest explanations from Rumsfeld for the un-repentant farrago of documented lies in the run up to the illegal invasion and rape of Iraq by the BushCo War Crimes Machine.

    As usual, the ones who were really being hectored are those demanding the truth. And it is always from the bullying rat vermin who prefer lies and treason over honesty and justice. We know who they are.

    One woman had her sign yanked away from her by one of these sub-human animals.*(apologies to the animal kingdom)

    I think I'll have a little fun.

    I happen to be a 3rd degree black belt in Karate and have been at it for over 20 years.

    Maybe I'll go to the next public right-wing media spin fest that I can find around here where one of The Bush Crime Gang's operatives will be appearing.

    I'll take a little protest sign of my own and, hopefully, one of these vicious, brain-dead Monkeys will try to grab it away from me. Maybe you guys will see me on the six o'clock news. I'll be the one being led away in handcuffs laughing as they wheel one or maybe more of these Monkeys away on gurneys and load them into the back of an ambulance.

    Remember, you got the scoop on Scam.com first.
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    Rumsfeld Heckled by Former CIA Analyst
    May 04 6:51 PM US/Eastern

    Associated Press Writer


    Protesters repeatedly interrupted Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld during a speech Thursday and one man, a former CIA analyst, accused him of lying about Iraq prewar intelligence in an unusually vociferous display of anti-war sentiment.

    "Why did you lie to get us into a war that caused these kind of casualties and was not necessary?" asked Ray McGovern, the former analyst, during a question-and-answer session.

    "I did not lie," shot back Rumsfeld, who waved off security guards ready to remove McGovern from the hall at the Southern Center for International Studies.

    With Iraq war support remaining low, it is not unusual for top Bush administration officials to encounter protests and hostile questions. But the outbursts Rumsfeld confronted on Thursday seemed beyond the usual.

    Three protesters were escorted away by security as each interrupted Rumsfeld's speech by jumping up and shouting anti-war messages. Throughout the speech, a fourth protester stood in the middle of the room with his back to Rumsfeld in silent protest. Officials reported no arrests.

    Rumsfeld also faced tough questions from a woman identifying herself as Patricia Roberts of Lithonia, Ga., who said her son, 22-year-old Spc. Jamaal Addison, was killed in Iraq. Roberts said she is now raising her young grandson and asked whether the government could provide any help.

    Rumsfeld referred her to a Web site listing aid organizations.

    President Bush seldom faces such challenges. Demonstrators usually are kept far from him when he delivers public remarks.

    Rumsfeld has been interrupted by anti-war demonstrators in congressional hearing rooms as he has delivered testimony to lawmakers in recent months, and at some speeches around the country.

    Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has had direct confrontations overseas. These include demonstrators who called her a murderer and war criminal in Australia in March, and throngs of anti-war protesters who dogged her every move in northern England in April.

    Demonstrators were kept far away from Rice during a visit last week to Greece, where riot police confronted a violent street mob that smashed shop windows in protest of U.S. policies and Rice's role in the U.S.- led invasion of Iraq.

    More than half of Americans say the war in Iraq was not worth the cost financially or in loss of life, recent public polling has found. Just over one-third of those surveyed say they approve of Bush's handing of the war. Public sentiment about the war has been at those low levels since fall.

    Just over one-third of the public says Rumsfeld is doing an excellent or pretty good job, according to polling in March, while six in 10 said fair or poor.

    In the run-up to the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration repeatedly spoke of evidence that Saddam Hussein had acquired weapons of mass destruction. No such armaments have been found. Officials also spoke about connections between Saddam and al- Qaida that critics say remain unproven.

    In recent weeks, at least a half dozen retired generals have called for Rumsfeld's resignation, saying he has ignored advice offered by military officers and made strategic errors in the Iraq war, including committing too few troops. But he has received strong backing by Bush, who repeatedly has indicated he will keep Rumsfeld at the Pentagon.

    When security guards tried removing McGovern, the analyst, during his persistent questions of Rumsfeld, the defense secretary told them to let him stay. The two continued to spar.

    "You're getting plenty of play," Rumsfeld told McGovern, who is an outspoken critic of the war in Iraq.

    Responding to another protester who also accused Rumsfeld of lying, the secretary said such accusations are "so wrong, so unfair and so destructive."

    At one point, Rumsfeld was praised by an audience member who said he had followed Rumsfeld's career and wondered what in his upbringing had shaped his positive outlook on life.

    "I guess one thing I'd say is that my mom was a school teacher and my dad read history voraciously. And I guess I adopted some of those patterns of reading history," Rumsfeld replied.

    Rumsfeld focused his speech on a U.S. need to increase its emphasis on more flexible partnerships with foreign militaries and rethinking of the role of long-established alliances like NATO.

    He called such changes "necessary adjustments, based on the new realities and the new threats that have emerged since the end of the Cold War."

    He also said, "We need ways to make sure we're better understood in the world than we are."

    Rumsfeld also likened the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan to the Cold War.

    "There is no question our country is facing difficulties in Iraq and difficulties in Afghanistan," he said
    Last edited by dchristie; 05-05-2006 at 04:20 AM.

  2. #2
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    Re: Ex-CIA Analyst Tears Rummy A New One In Public

    If I was a betting man, I would bet you are all talk and zero action. We will not be seeing you on the news.

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    Re: Ex-CIA Analyst Tears Rummy A New One In Public

    Quote Originally Posted by Worried_in_the_USA
    If I was a betting man, I would bet you are all talk and zero action. We will not be seeing you on the news.

    Why don't you live up to your moniker and try me, b!tch?

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    Re: Ex-CIA Analyst Tears Rummy A New One In Public

    Covering lies by lying. How predictable.

    What's shocking is that people actually applauded this despite its transparency.

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    Re: Ex-CIA Analyst Tears Rummy A New One In Public

    6 in 10 people think Georgie and company is doing a poor job in Iraq and yet they persist on remaining there. Pretty soon the only supporters will be the hard core neoconians like Grim and HDMarketing or and let's not forget Raider, every group needs it's flunkie.

    I find it interesting that Rummy calls for the "U.S. need to increase its emphasis on more flexible partnerships with foreign militaries and rethinking of the role of long-established alliances like NATO." And ""We need ways to make sure we're better understood in the world than we are."

    And then we have George Bush who pretty much approaches leadership in other countries with his nose in the air and disregards any of their input.

    Well, I think the rest of the world seems to understand George Bush and company real well. They don't seem to like them at all.

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