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    Why education and college are a scam!

    The true purpose of education, college, and the middle class in America

    The first thing they do is put you in public school to keep you under control, discipline and surveillance, so that you can be conditioned to be a future good worker for the needs of the empire, all in the name of "education". Education my a**. 99 percent of what they teach you in this "education" are things you don't ever need to know and will NEVER use, either in real life or in any jobs or professions. They know that, but they NEVER tell you that. Do any teachers admit to their students that most of what they are teaching them will probably never be of use to them? Of course not. What they tell you is to study hard, get good grades, and pass exams so you can move to the next grade and have a better future.

    The purpose of education is not to educate, enlighten or increase your intelligence. It's all a scam to shape and mold you, keep you disciplined and under control, making you think that you are learning wonderful and useful things. And it's also to keep the next generation from thinking on their own which might lead to upsetting the status quo. Instead, they are told what to think (e.g. capitalism is good, socialism is bad, etc).

    Next, after high school, you are encouraged to go to college to raise your career level and status, where again you are bombarded with higher level "education" which in reality is just more useless information that you're tested on. In reality, most of what you study and memorize from college coursework under your degree program is NEVER used in the profession that you are specializing in, and is largely unnecessary for the work that you actually do. And even in the few specializations which are the exception, you still cram down far more than you need to know, just to give the college system a purpose to disciple you and weed people out.

    What they don't tell you is that the real purpose of college is not to educate you, make you wiser or smarter, or even a better more capable person (though those can be fringe benefits). The real purpose is to create a middle class that acts as a buffer between the rich and poor, protecting and shielding the elite (those in power) from everyone else below them that might undermine the status quo. By using the old "divide and conquer" strategy, the elite divides its subjects in two, creating a middle class that gives the lower class a way to move up to quell some of their oppression or dissatisfaction (or at least give them the illusion of it). (See Howard Zinn’s A People’s History of the United States) But unless you have a radical socialist history teacher (like I did) you’ll never hear that from them.

    And of course, throughout the whole "education process" they indoctrinate you with the promise that if you work hard for them and retire, giving them the best years of your life, then you'll have the time and means to do any extensive traveling you dream of. Yeah right, with the poison they give you in American food, fat chance (pun intended). So in other words, you aren't supposed to have too much fun until you're too old and unhealthy to have fun anymore. They know that it may not even work out that way, but they keep the illusion of that going to serve their interests (not yours). You are conditioned and brainwashed into thinking that that's the only route in life; there is no alternative. And while you slave away your best years to them, you get 2 weeks off a year to go to Disneyland, New York, Hawaii, or some touristy crap, where you will never see or experience even 0.000001 percent of the world.

    What the powers of imperial America never tell you is that you don't have to be old, retired, or financially independent to travel the world. Many young people with little money do it by hitchhiking (which much of the US makes illegal), camping, and using hospitality/accommodation websites (e.g. www.hospitalityclub.org, www.couchsurfing.com, www.globalfreeloaders.com, etc.), pulling it off for years at a time. For instance, see this famous case at: www.hitchhiketheworld.com , www.ledbydestiny.com .

    It would seem then, that the perpetuation of the obsession with careers serves a function and larger purpose of creating a middle class to keep our exploitative capitalist system intact. Howard Zinn, author of A People’s History of the United States explains:

    http://www.lannan.org/docs/arundhati...trans-conv.pdf
    “And this is so much the history of the United States which developed perhaps the largest middle class. That is, the United States has had enough wealth so it could bribe enough people in the population to create a middle class which became useful as a buffer between the very rich and that part of the population which could not even rise into the middle class. So the middle class, in the United States, has always been enticed by the establishment into thinking that it can rise into the upper class and not told that it can also descend. [Laughter]. The result is that the United States educational system teaches us from the very beginning that we are not a class society. To use the term "class", in the United States? it's just a term you use for school, right. [Laughter] ?This is my class? sort of thing.”

    http://www.indexmagazine.com/intervi...ard_zinn.shtml
    “Class is just not addressed in the United States. The pretense is that we're all one big happy family. The government uses language about representing "the national interest." This assumes that we all have the same interests you know, that Exxon and I have the same priorities, or that the government and I have the same desire to go to war. I'm suspicious of terms like "national security" or "national defense," which try to envelop the whole population within one common position which doesn't really exist.”

    Another purpose of the middle class, summarized by one of Zinn’s fans, is:

    http://www.geocities.com/howardzinnf...istreview.html
    “The middle class has been created as a buffer between the hungry lower class and the well-fed upper class. By taking resources away from the poor and giving away just enough resources to the middle class, the upper class causes enough tension between the two classes to divert attention from the real crook, itself.”

    Here is how another Zinn reader paraphrased the choices the ruling class faced when creating college and the middle class:

    http://www.kalamu.com/bol/2005/11/06...enny%E2%80%9D/
    “Eventually, Zinn notes, the rich realized that they couldn’t keep ALL of the wealth to themselves. They decided it was necessary to create an educated, civilized and semi-monied middle-class that would serve as a buffer against the masses of the poor. You know the old saying: a man who has nothing, has nothing left to lose. Therefore, threats of joblessness, or jail, or even death, are insufficient to keep him in his place. When you have an socio-economic system that, by definition, creates massive amounts of extreme poverty, the ruling class of said system have only two choices: employ a standing army to protect themselves, or, has eventually happened in America, tweak the system.”

    But the middle class is what keeps our exploitative system intact, as political prisoner Jeffrey Luers vociferates on in his pamphlet:

    www.freefreenow.org/beyonddissent.pdf
    “The enormous wealth in this country has created the richest ruling class in history with enough left over to pass out to the middle class, ensuring they act as a buffer between the have and the have-nots. Is it any wonder that the presidential 'elections' revolve around middle class issues? All two of the recognized candidates are constantly seeking support from middle class America promising this or that in return. Meanwhile, the money to support campaigns comes in from corporate donations, ensuring that government policy is well paid for. Why is it no candidate ever reached out to the 50 million people struggling to get by? The middle class lends legitimacy to a well thought out facade. But when all is said and done, a rich ruler is a rich ruler is a rich ruler.”

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    Re: Why education and college are a scam!

    what ****ing bullcrap is this?

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    Well WWU777 sounds like a looser who either did not go to college or went but studied something dumb and was never able to get a job and make a living so they never were able to pay off the student loans they took out.

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    Re: Why education and college are a scam!

    Let's see, I'm the son of an auto worker, I have two doctorates and I'm not exactly BIll Gates, but I am a millionaire (which ain't what it used to be or all it's cracked up to be, by the way). Obviously, the evil capitalist system has been oppresing me.

    Jeesh, do you believe this tripe?

    While it is true that high school dropouts do sometimes become wealthy, and PhDs do sometimes go broke, it's a lot more common for the affluent to be educated and the uneducated to be also, poor. Not many illiterate millionaires that I know of.
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    Judging by his screen name, I'm guessing he went to Western Washington University and became disillusioned somewhere along the line.

    I have a different perspective on the education system, being that my parents took me out of school at the age of 13. I got the rest of my education just reading books on my own. I am lucky to have passed my GED with just an 8th grade education. I became a hairdresser just because I only knew how to use my hands, and had the knack. I was a hairdresser for 20 years, eventually made good money (though I starved in the beginning) and worked my butt off. My lack of education is what made me strong, but has been a HUGE obstacle also.I've quit the hairdressing trade due to bigtime burnout. I am now 41, and am basically starting over. I am infact going to college orientation today. Why? Because every job that pays decently or seems halfway rewarding, needs that certificate. The only thing worse than working the low education level jobs, is working with others that have no education. I'm speaking from experience. Do I think that college guarantees me happiness and high pay? No, but it is going to sure help me get where I want to go from here.

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    Sounds like a libertarian borderline insane anarchist who also eats up every BS conspiracy theory in existence... including the one that there were 12 shooters on JFK, that US never landed on the moon, and that Pentagon wasn't hit by a terrorist commandeered plane on 9/11. He is the one in need of serious education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WWu777
    The true purpose of education, college....
    Well, be thankful that you are educated to some degree, because without that same education you're complaining about, you would not have been able to come in here typing the propaganda above.

    Furthermore, you have a choice, if you don't want education, after a certain age you don't have to have it, as it is not compulsory then. Nobody is forcing you to gain an education. Besides, you get the degrees and certificates with your name on it, nobody else's. You're doing it for yourself, not for anyone.

    It's that same old argument, you can't please everyone. Some of those who have don't appreciate, and those who don't are desperate to get it!
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    College has been one of the BEST experiences in my life. I was sheltered as a youngster, so to have this much freedom--and to have REAL FRIENDS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, is a blessing.
    /submitter is an asshat--needs a biotchslappin(still in fark.com mode^_^)

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    I think the person who wrote this long speech about education and the middle class makes some valid points. In my opinion, education is very important whether it's book knowledge or street knowledge. We live in an age of lifelong learning. So I say learn both the book and the street knowledge because both will give you leverage and value. A vast majority of us do not like to hear the down side of anything that goes against the status quo. But what most of us fail to realize, its not the job, the money, the education or anything else. It's about you and what you want to do with your life. If fail, hell, try again. Its up to YOU and what YOU DO!!. I see responds and some want to beat this person up because of the valid points he/she stated. But think about what he/she is saying and see if that apply to you or to someone you know. School is like anything else, It's what you make. You can make it work for you or against you. If it works for you, GREAT!!! If not, TRY AGAIN, you'll get!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WWu777
    The purpose of education is not to educate, enlighten or increase your intelligence. It's all a scam to shape and mold you, keep you disciplined and under control, making you think that you are learning wonderful and useful things. And it's also to keep the next generation from thinking on their own which might lead to upsetting the status quo. Instead, they are told what to think (e.g. capitalism is good, socialism is bad, etc).
    I think this is completely true. While I believe most of what WWu777 was somewhat extreme, the concepts are valid to an extent.

    I am well educated, and I am not going to reach freedom because of that. I am striving for freedom from things I have learnt outside of schooling and unviersity, stuff about business and success. Nonetheless, I wouldn't have learnt anything about Molecular Biology if it wasn't for university. Some things necessarily need to be taught in a standardised educational institute.

    Quote Originally Posted by xavier
    I have two doctorates and I'm not exactly BIll Gates, but I am a millionaire (which ain't what it used to be or all it's cracked up to be, by the way). Obviously, the evil capitalist system has been oppresing me.
    How many hours a week do you work? How many holidays do you get per year? When will you retire?

    Clearly you are one of the upper upper middle class, you are the one of the more successful, but the point remains, because in all likelihood you are still working your life away...

    Shane

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    How many hours a week do you work? How many holidays do you get per year? When will you retire?

    Clearly you are one of the upper upper middle class, you are the one of the more successful, but the point remains, because in all likelihood you are still working your life away...
    Well, I work 40-45 hours a week and have a side business that makes as much in about 20 hours a week as the day job. I'm 42 and could retire today if I wanted to, but I love my work and will prolly give it 10 more years. I get 12 holidays a year paid, 80 hours of personal/sick time and 160 hours of vacation, all of which I take.
    I also have absolutely no health care expenses beyond a $5 co pay on name brand drugs and a $250 limit every other year for eyeglasses.
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    Ahhh side business...very smart move. This is one thing that most well educated people never do!

    My angle is coming from a somewhat Robert Kiyosaki influenced position. Heard of Rich Dad Poor Dad? Its a very good insightful book into the mentality of most members of our society. I know plenty of 'poor dads' (well educated business smarts poor people who earn huge incomes but never get ahead in life), and a few 'rich dads' (business smart who lack any formal education. They just know how to make money from nothing and put themselves in powerful positions).

    Shane

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    Hehe!!!!!!

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    Re: Why education and college are a scam!

    Quote Originally Posted by aegist
    Ahhh side business...very smart move. This is one thing that most well educated people never do!

    My angle is coming from a somewhat Robert Kiyosaki influenced position. Heard of Rich Dad Poor Dad? Its a very good insightful book into the mentality of most members of our society. I know plenty of 'poor dads' (well educated business smarts poor people who earn huge incomes but never get ahead in life), and a few 'rich dads' (business smart who lack any formal education. They just know how to make money from nothing and put themselves in powerful positions).

    Shane
    Kiwosaki is a beacon to the truth that is common sense, or at least my common sense... I will be rich and retire young simply because I know how and will accept nothing less!

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    ROFL. I think we have a lot in common my friend :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by aegist
    ROFL. I think we have a lot in common my friend :D
    not surprising, but good to hear

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