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    Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To GOP

    Here's the answer to the Health Care Crisis in this country which will make it easily affordable and available to all who deserve it.

    All it takes is a little creative thinking out of the box.

    It works like this:

    Any whiny Republican GOP bastards who apply get denied.

    This would be a simple and easily enforceable option.

    If an applicant has been a registered Republican in the past 10 years, they're simply not eligible - end of story.

    This way, they get what they seem to want and, actually, deserve: Nothing but, ideally, a slow and painful death from an, otherwise, easily curable ailment.

    Everybody else is assured the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness through a national health plan which is a benchmark of civilized, pluralistic societies.

    Whiny Right-Wing Assholes can still have the option to pay a few grand and more per month - not counting deductibles - to the insurance companies while their fat cat executives frolic on yachts, private jets and 5 star hotels.

    They'll still have the right to be denied treatment for preexisting conditions or denied medication that hasn't been certified by The FDA.

    The only thing missing is some legislation making it a misdemeanor for them to bitch and moan about not getting their ing entitlements.

    Accordingly, there should be a "nuclear option" for when, as usual, bleeding heart liberals at the ACLU are sure to start sticking up for their worse enemies - no-good, filthy, immoral, disease ridden GOP scumbag hypocrites - just as they did in the Limbaugh Drug Dealing and Doctor Shopper case.

    Indeed, The ACLU is sure to try and claim 1st and 14th Amendment protections in The Bill Of Rights for these right-wing c0cksuckers when they get cut off flat. Of course, they will snivel and whine ever more shrilly like infants with a heavy load of shit in their diapers about taxes - as usual.

    This could be handled too.

    They could be charged under the RICO Statutes for supporting terrorism through their assistance to mega-terrorists Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, and The Zio-Nazis.

    For supporting these terrorists in the illegal invasion of Iraq PLUS crimes of torturing detainees conducted at Bush Gulags, they could be charged under the anti-terrorism laws.

    Of course, there are severe penalties and fines for being an accessory to terrorism and war crimes.

    And, luckily as a result of The Bush Crime Gang's precedent setting edicts on how we should treat terrorists, they wouldn't be eligible for any claims of Constitutional "rights".

    They can ask Jose Padilla how that works.

    So, the bottom line is any claims to Constitutional Rights are moot. The substantial fines that are accessed will be collected by freezing their assets and can go towards paying for the National Health and Wellness Plan for everybody else.

    Problem solved.

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    health care is expensive because democrat lawyers keep suing doctors and illegal mexicans use the emergency room as their personal doctor. healthcare is also expensive because some people, like Michelle Obama, are paid huge salaries and benefits to be "hospital administrators" without actually doing anything.

    the reason many people are uninsured is because they don't want to pay these costs, crooked awyers, crooked politicians, and emergency room care for illegals.

    the cure is tort reform for the lawyer problem and busrides back to mexico for the illegals. corrupt politicians probably should be executed for violating the public trust.

    there is no danger democrats will ever propose severe penalties for corruption, since they are all corrupt.

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    Re: Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To

    Quote Originally Posted by mumbles View Post
    health care is expensive because democrat lawyers keep suing doctors and illegal mexicans use the emergency room as their personal doctor. healthcare is also expensive because some people, like Michelle Obama, are paid huge salaries and benefits to be "hospital administrators" without actually doing anything.

    the reason many people are uninsured is because they don't want to pay these costs, crooked lawyers, crooked politicians, and emergency room care for illegals.

    the cure is tort reform for the lawyer problem and busrides back to mexico for the illegals. corrupt politicians probably should be executed for violating the public trust.

    there is no danger democrats will ever propose severe penalties for corruption, since they are all corrupt.
    Uh..huh.. Right Mumbles.

    There's no question that there are plenty of corrupt, greedy and crooked lawyers.

    It's a funny thing how you attribute all the World's ills to Democrats, though, as if there were no Republican lawyers or that a Republican controlled Congress didn't have an opportunity to propose tort reform while they rode roughshod over the legislative branch for 12 years and all three branches of government including the Whitehouse for 8 of those years.

    Yet..somehow, it's always the Democrats and "libruls" fault for everything.

    Hmmm... It looks like a severe case of selective amnesia to me, Mumbles.

    I'll bet you this.

    If you're ever forced to have brain surgery, and the doctor replaces your brain with a sponge...you'll want to get as much cash out of it as possible.

    And, if there's a cap on lawsuits, you'll start with your right-wing whining and complaining ...even though the doctor did you a favor.


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    um, correct me if Im wrong here but DC, you're the one that post the thread and slammed the republicans first. Why don't you stop being so PARTY LINE and see THE WHOLE FUCKING POLITICAL SYSTEM IS CROOKED! and stop saying its one sides fault or the other sides fault. When and I mean WHEN..YOU PERSONALLY get off your ass instead of sitting in front of a keyboard bitching about it then and only then will any one bother to listen to you until then...yanno what...ITS ALL RHETORIC YOUR SPEWING just like everyone else on this board. Like I said before STFU unless you are going to see its the whole damn system thats corrupt and no just one sided.

    If you dont like it get off your ass and ...CHANGE IT!

    Here's a little thought provoking question for you....IF health care was so important..why didn't the dems put it in the porkulus bill. It would only take about $40b to cover the uninsured and leave everyone else alone. Hell, every other pet project is in there NOTICE I DIDNT SAY DEM OR REPUB!
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    Actually, I liked McCain's proposal of increased tax incentives, increased utilization of HSAs and semi-mandatory preventative coverage.

    Throw in an insurance mandate so nobody gets denied and keep the govt. out. Their track record is...well, we all know.

    Billions would be saved. But no. It makes too much sense. Only hope is Obama's obscessive behaviour will be beaten back by fellow Democrats and he's gone after four years. It looks like we are on our way...

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    Re: Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazza. View Post
    I'm confused!

    Dchristie has made it clear he is not Democrat and did not vote Obama.

    To suggest he is towing the party line is just a crock!

    Just a little aside...If you really believe that the whole system is corrupt, why don't you get off your reamed out arse and do something about it, Hmm?

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    First off, all Christie does is rail on the Republicans which basically implies that he tows the dem party line. Show me one post where he is objective or pro anything that the republicans have done. Also, why are YOU defending him? Get off your knees.

    Secondly, I do do things about it. I write and my congressmen almost on a daily basis. I don't vote party line vote. I do things in my community to change the corrupt government people. Again, before you accuse me of something, you better have facts.


    Also, I didn't see you address the fact of the 'manadatory" government health programs that they(government officials/employees) included an amendment that they wont HAVE to take it. If there are only 47 million (approx 12 million are ILLEGALS)
    uninsured people they could have added something in the porkulus spending bill to cover those people and left the rest of us who like our coverages alone. Like I said before, this is nothing but another power grab by Obama. If they REALLY wanted to fix the healthcare system it would be rather simple.

    1. TORT REFORM - stop these ambulance chasing lawyer like Edgar Snyder from sueing for every little thing. This country is the most letigious in the world. People sue for the most assenine things and WIN HUGE amounts of money for their OWN stupidity. Example - Paul Sanchez, a 67-year-old "occasional" golfer, sued Candia Woods Golf Links this week over an accident that left him blind in one eye.

    Sanchez, of 20 Country Club Drive, Manchester, was golfing with two or three friends in September 2006 when a ball he hit bounced off a yardage-marker and "whacked him" in the right eye, according to his attorney, Barry M. Scotch.

    "Before he could even -- pardon the expression -- blink, he was hit," Scotch said. "It just ricocheted right back at him."

    In the lawsuit, Sanchez faults the course's owners for failing to warn him about the markers, which are used by golfers to decide what type of club to use and how much effort to put into a swing.

    Sanchez is seeking unspecified damages, claiming the markers were made of material too rigid to be safe for the course, according to the suit filed in Rockingham County Superior Court. He also blames the mishap on a lack of warning about the markers and improper placement in the middle of the fairway.

    The suit contends the course didn't warn Sanchez about the risk in the pro shop, on the scorecard or on any tee boxes.

    Scotch said the markers should have been placed off to the side of the fairway and golfers should have been told they are removable during play.

    Police at the time said Sanchez was playing the 11th hole, a 443-yard par-4.

    The suit said it was Sanchez's third shot on the hole. The marker was 150 yards from the green.

    Court records show Sanchez suffered a fractured upper orbital rim, the bone behind his eyebrow, along with a blurring or total loss of vision. Sanchez was taken from the back nine by ambulance and transported to the Elliot Hospital in Manchester.

    If it goes to trial, the case could be before a jury sometime in the summer of 2010. Scotch, of the Manchester law firm Backus, Meyer Solomon & Branch, said a golf expert was consulted before the suit was filed.

    "It's not a frivolous, run-it-up-the-flagpole-and-see-who-salutes kind of thing," Scotch said.

    There is no word yet on how much money Sanchez will be seeking in damages. Mary Ellen Sanchez, his wife, is also a party to the suit, claiming emotional damage.

    Candia Woods owner Peter Harrity refused comment yesterday. An attorney for the course was not listed in court records.

    The popular 18-hole course opened in 1964, according to its Web site, where it bills itself as the "Friendliest Course in New Hampshire."


    Come on...your going to sue because of your own stupidity and because you SUCK at golf. Why didnt he just MOVE the 150 yd marker? You're allowed to. Seems he didn't know the rules.

    2. I don't agree that there should be a mandated coverage. Some people DON'T WANT IT and who are you to tell me I HAVE to have it? Do you know how many people opt out of their company insurance? Quite a few. They may not want to take it so they can afford their new BMW or new house or some other reason and that should be THEIR CHOICE, not the governments. I do agree with the HSA's and tax rebate incentives though and think they are a very good idea.

    3. The government has already proven they cant effectively run anything, including themselves. Look at the shambles that medicare/medicaid and SS are in. Keep health care in the private sector.

    4. Find a way to fix the astronomical prices Dr's pay for malpractice insurance(kinda of falls under tort reform)


    Call this health care reform bill for what it is. A way for this administration to take control more of your life and grow this inefficient government bigger. None of these politicians have our best interest at heart, all they want to do is line their pockets. Look how many of them have stock in medicine companies or their wives are on boards for insurance companies or hospital boards. QUITE A FEW!

    I personally dont think you should be able to sit on a committee if you have stock in the sector or your wife is a board member etc you are trying to deal with because its a total conflict of interest.
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    Re: Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To

    X2, I have sent tons of emails to my local Dem's and Republicans telling them both I and most of America is sick and tired of their combined lack of action. I have several times showed my distrust to the republicans but the liberals can never say they did the same.

    Im still waiting for some intelligent liberal to bring some facts to the table except for their verbal slurs of hate.
    "The republic will cease to exist when Government takes from those who are industrious and gives to those who refuse to work." -Thomas Jefferson

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    What the Hell?

    You are apparently abandoning all of your previous posturing re: democracy and impartiality.

    You have come out in virulent support of a bill (and a concept) that is supported only by sinking-ship-clingers. Can you name anyone who actually think this bill isn't a joke?

    Don't ask our racist/socialist/scumbag president. He hasn't read it, nor will he.

    All he wants to know is "does it continue to place Americans ever more at my mercy? It does? Make it, like, a thousand pages. Thanks." Then he hangs up, giggling, coated in his own make.

    As for punishing and stifling the opinions of the GOP...don't worry. They are all over that!

    They have prohibited the mailing of the 'chart' explaining the health care Plan and have banned further debate on the matter.

    This is sorta similar to the old 'block opposing opinions from testifying at hearings on "climate change" gambit' they recently imposed. Hey, if it works, don't fix it!

    It seems you have found a real home with this bunch, and more's the pity...


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    I for one support Crusty's plan. I assume that since registered republicans can't take part in the plan they also are exempt from paying for the plan? If so you got my vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cirussell View Post
    I for one support Crusty's plan. I assume that since registered republicans can't take part in the plan they also are exempt from paying for the plan? If so you got my vote.

    Come on Cirussell, you know that we(repub and Independents) will still have to pay for the losers mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PABusiness View Post
    Come on Cirussell, you know that we(repub and Independents) will still have to pay for the losers mistakes.
    LOL.. Yup.. Looks like we have a real "mavericky" independent here, folks. No doubt about it. It's kinda like the spot being independent from the dog. I got it! . You can call yourselves The Retardledent Party.

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    Re: Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To

    keep buying up guns and ammo...

    stay healthy and feed and defend thyself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dchristie View Post
    LOL.. Yup.. Looks like we have a real "mavericky" independent here, folks. No doubt about it. It's kinda like the spot being independent from the dog. I got it! . You can call yourselves The Retardledent Party.

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    Ah...that word again..."retard"

    This is a gross violation of the laws of P.C., unless, of course, you are a filthy liberal writing up the health care bill. Then, it's all good.




    RETARDED' HOUSE BILL

    By MARC SIEGEL

    July 26, 2009

    The proposed health-insurance bill from the House of Representatives refers to mentally disabled people as "retarded" -- a term advocates, relatives and physicians find outdated and offensive.

    The bill refers to: "A hospital or a nursing facility or intermediate-care facility for the mentally retarded . . ."

    The phrase could cause more problems with groups for the developmentally disabled, who were angered when President Obama referred to his poor bowling skills on "The Tonight Show" as "like the Special Olympics." Obama later apologized.

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/07262009...ill_181448.htm



    Not only do these creatures have no sense of self, they are assholes and scumbags.


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    Re: Health Crisis Solution: Deny Public Option To

    tort reform is the cure for high medical costs.

    all of Obama's plans to correct this problem listed:
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    (the trial lawyers association provides lots of cash to democrat party, and John Edwards is one of them that has made billions suing doctors. doctors do not pay for lawsuits, they pay for malpractice insurance. the cost of insurance is distributed to all the patients. other places, like india, with low cost medical care, just don't allow doctors and hospitals to be sued for $millions.)

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    a medical degree is very expensive to get. a doctor may be $million dollars in debt the first day of his practice. he just can't afford to work cheap.

    Obamacare addresses this problem as listed below:

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    (we spend too much on education. its time to stop paying professors of women's studies, black studies, and cancel all the basketball scholarships, too. its all nice, but we can no longer afford it. these are all democrats favorite programs, and democrats have power now, so, again, there will be no progress. we lose. we pay.)
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    Great posts mumbles!
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