Just a word of advice that this forum is a scam and is totally censored! They work in co-hoots with the programs they advertise and anybody that says anything bad about their experience with one of their programs is booted off of their forum to control what is said. I was just kicked off again and not even sure why??? They never let you know why and never respond to any of my emails to offer any explanation! Stay away and do not buy any of their products and and never get involved in any of their programs, they are all scam programs designed to make them money and you poorer! They work with moderators on other forums to control what is said about their programs and friends! BEWARE of MCF!!!!!!!!