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    The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Ethos FR , FFi , Bioperformance , or Enviro-Max.
    Which is better?

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    Ok Folks Let's Get Down To The Truth.

    Well all know that consumers are sick and tired of paying high gas prices at the pump,
    and we're all looking for ways to save money on gas and reduce pollution when we can.
    The only question is, which company or product is the best out there?
    And do their products really work? Here are some Big players.

    #1) Ethos FR - #2) FFi - #3) Bioperformance - and - #4) Enviro-Max

    The question is, which is better? Which product really works?

    I only want Facts - Verifiable Facts and Powerful Validations - NO HYPE!

    I need your input to find out which product is better,
    what really works and what's a scam.

    So far, from what I've heard and from the research I have done,
    Ethos FR is the real deal.

    What do you think? Is Ethos FR a Deal or a Dud?

    The FOX NBC NEWS website provides a lot of good information
    on Ethos FR here is the site link : www.FoxNBCnews.com

    www.FoxNBCnews.com


    Ethos Corporate site is www.Ethosfr.com
    Last edited by Just Wondering; 04-10-2006 at 09:15 PM.

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by ocloren
    Yes, I agree.

    I've read a lot of articles, posted on forums and blogs.

    People that use the BioPerformance Pill go back and forth. Some people have success, others do not.

    However, those that use Ethos have seemed to mainly say positive things.

    I'm into Ethos as a business and customer.

    Those that want a business which deals with a product that can and will help people save money on gas, maintenance, and performance, this is for you.

    This is much better than the "Gas Pills" and is so safe, you can personally consume it. Go try that with the pill and you'll be sorry.

    www.4-corp.com
    .
    And so where did you get the product to try since no one has received any product yet? I research them all, and FuelZone is the old name of Ethos, and it did reduce emissions, as the all do, but the savings were 11% on my Ford F250 deisel with FuelZone which I am told is same exact product. Time will tell, but with all the BS hype being thrown about, like sales of $100M, it is all lies, so I know which company I would not be using.

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE
    ON YOUR TEAM 06/16/2006
    4-Ecorp "Proof of SCAM" 5000 Caller Capability
    7 PM Eastern or 4 PM Pacific
    Conference call lines: 212-990-8000 or 646-519-5860
    If you can not get on one try the other...
    Your Pin Code is : 7 7 7 7 #

    There will be a 5000 line conference call today to put an end to the double talking 4-Ecorp Management Team... On this call there will be undeniable proof of everything that has been said about Enrique, Shane McGuire, Dan Atkinson and Daniel Chattin

    From Dan Atkinson Vice President of 4-Ecorp Called Phil Piccolo at His Home and
    on Speaker Phone in front of Witnesses said Quote "Phil Piccolo you are A Dead Man"

    HUNDREDS of you have e-mailed Phil Piccolo to inquire into a Class Action Law Suit against
    Enrique and his so called $150,000,000 a year business, 4-Ecorp and there $100,000 a month
    Management Earners... we are seeking legal answers for you from a very prominent Law Firm...
    If you wish to be updated on such Legal Information once we find it out e-mail D1280X@msn.com
    and put in the subject line CLASS ACTION SUIT...

    OH did you hear THE RUMOR that bottles are EXPLODING IN THE HEAT...
    That should be fun with JULY and AUGUST coming up...

    We have 100's of complaints that 4-Ecorp took 2 check drafts from peoples accounts
    They took a $399 check for the product and on their own decided if a person
    paid check number 428 for $399 they could just draft 428A for $25 with no permission

    Next issue is WHERE IS MY PRODUCT
    Paid in APRIL - NO PRODUCTS YET
    Paid in 1st week of May - NO PRODUCTS YET

    WOW... all this name calling...

    All Phil Piccolo did was put together an e-mail that took two days to write...
    Went over it... got the time lines... prayed about it... made sure to read it
    many times to make sure all was true... Then he pressed send...

    Today's Series of Events 6/15/2006

    First: Dan Chattin calls and says Phil Piccolo ruined him. Quote
    "My partners never knew I was coming out to Florida... I am ruined"

    Next: Dan Atkinson Quote "Phil Piccolo how stupid a man are you
    - You are a DEAD MAN - Watch Your Back"

    Next: On their conference calls they slammed Phil Piccolo and they are sending
    out old garbage that one broke musician from Minnesota who has gone Bankrupt
    twice and wiped out an 8 million dollar slander Judgement that has said bad things
    about every single Million Dollar Earner in Network Marketing History...

    This one BROKE MUSICIAN has called Phil Piccolo The one man Internet Crime Machine.
    However does not show any evidence of the accusations...
    Plus he has a disclaimer on his site that says this is all in Parody...

    LOOK Phil is no saint and has made mistakes and this is not one of them...
    This is not about Phil Piccolo and his Good or Bad reputation.
    This is about 15,000 people buying a product that we have all been deceived about.
    We have been deceived about the TESTING, Deceived about Enrique, Deceived about 4-Ecorp
    Management and Deceived about The Compensation Plan which got changed after 30,000 people got in to give 4-Ecorp more Breakage...

    This is not about competition from another company...
    aaTCM has grown way past the success of 4-Ecorp prior to any and all of this happening...
    Phil has earned more in the last 5 weeks than 4-Ecorp has paid out to their whole company...
    Phil did not do this to sponsor more people...

    Next: Daniel Chattin tells his best friend Rick Garland he is going to The FBI because
    Phil Piccolo mentioned concrete shoes. And he now fears for his life....

    Now let's check out this scene in Dan Chattin's life...
    Phil Piccolo is driving Dan back to the airport and Rick Garland is on Phil's speaker phone in the car.
    Phil tells Rick to congratulate Dan since he has accepted the CEO position and shook hands on it.
    At the same time Phil's cell phone rings and it is Richard Skaggs the President of OMSTAR D-1280X
    and Phil excitingly tells Richard we have a NEW CEO... With Richard and Rick both on Speaker Phones.
    Richard Skaggs says congratulations is it all a done deal... Phil responds yes it is 100%...
    Richard says so we have a concrete deal and Phil says yep... concrete deal or concrete shoes...
    and EVERYONE LAUGHED... Dan, Phil, Richard and Rick all joking and laughing...

    Now we here Dan Chattin is filing an FBI Report because he is scared of what Phil Piccolo
    will do now that he has not accepted the CEO Position... Quote to Rick... I am in fear for my life...
    don't you remember what Phil said about CONCRETE SHOES...
    I need to file a complaint with my brother-in-law who is an FBI Agent...

    Maybe Dan Chattin should remind the FBI of who he is in reference to the situation...
    with some Indian Tribe being defrauded of Millions...
    Rumor has it that he was or still is part of some kind of FBI investigation...

    OK... HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

    Enrique if you have Test from EPA APPROVED LABS
    which is right on the front of your new site for 4-Ecorp
    JUST show us the proof on your Website

    If you went to Harvard as was claimed and got a DEGREE
    Put it on the Website... Did you now say at the meeting it
    was in Economics or was it in HOME ECONOMICS..
    Like a Cooking class...

    Dan Atkinson just produce copies of your last 6 months checks
    and put them on the website. Your CORPORATE BROCURE says
    you have earned $100,000 a month...Stop talking about Phil Piccolo and
    JUST SHOW US THE MONEY...

    Dan is The Caddilac Escalade you are driving belong to Daniel Chattin
    JUST ANSER THE QUESTION Mr Corporate Brocure $100,000 a month EARNER for 20 YEARS...

    Daniel Chattin just show how much of the ALMOST 6 MILLION dollars
    went to COMMISSIONS... you all say more than 50%... Just PROVE IT

    Daniel, Shane and Dan did you take $100,000 each out when
    HALF THE PEOPLE did not even get their PRODUCTS YET...
    YES OR NO...

    PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS NOT ABOUT Phil PICCOLO
    He does not have 15,000 or so orders of YOUR MONEY...
    He has not done the conference calls and listed
    10 GREAT REASONS to Join 4-E of which 9 cannot be proven
    He did not just take in SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY
    and in MANY CASES NOT DELIVER THE PRODUCT...

    We are sure that Florida, Texas, California and Michigan State Attorneys Office
    Would love to hear about another Gas Additive Company that is taking money
    and not delivering the products for most as of yet...

    Please if you have any information about any of these men now or in past
    dealings please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line INFORMATION

    If your check has been cashed and it has been weeks with no product
    please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line NO PRODUCT

    If you were one of the people who got two checks out of your account like
    my 77 year old mom without her permission
    please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line CHECK FRAUD

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    They're scams! Run from them!

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    I need my previous post deleted. Who do I need to speak to about that? I was in a hurry, and now realized my post was in error.

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by branchb
    PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE
    ON YOUR TEAM 06/16/2006
    4-Ecorp "Proof of SCAM" 5000 Caller Capability
    7 PM Eastern or 4 PM Pacific
    Conference call lines: 212-990-8000 or 646-519-5860
    If you can not get on one try the other...
    Your Pin Code is : 7 7 7 7 #

    There will be a 5000 line conference call today to put an end to the double talking 4-Ecorp Management Team... On this call there will be undeniable proof of everything that has been said about Enrique, Shane McGuire, Dan Atkinson and Daniel Chattin

    From Dan Atkinson Vice President of 4-Ecorp Called Phil Piccolo at His Home and
    on Speaker Phone in front of Witnesses said Quote "Phil Piccolo you are A Dead Man"

    HUNDREDS of you have e-mailed Phil Piccolo to inquire into a Class Action Law Suit against
    Enrique and his so called $150,000,000 a year business, 4-Ecorp and there $100,000 a month
    Management Earners... we are seeking legal answers for you from a very prominent Law Firm...
    If you wish to be updated on such Legal Information once we find it out e-mail D1280X@msn.com
    and put in the subject line CLASS ACTION SUIT...

    OH did you hear THE RUMOR that bottles are EXPLODING IN THE HEAT...
    That should be fun with JULY and AUGUST coming up...

    We have 100's of complaints that 4-Ecorp took 2 check drafts from peoples accounts
    They took a $399 check for the product and on their own decided if a person
    paid check number 428 for $399 they could just draft 428A for $25 with no permission

    Next issue is WHERE IS MY PRODUCT
    Paid in APRIL - NO PRODUCTS YET
    Paid in 1st week of May - NO PRODUCTS YET

    WOW... all this name calling...

    All Phil Piccolo did was put together an e-mail that took two days to write...
    Went over it... got the time lines... prayed about it... made sure to read it
    many times to make sure all was true... Then he pressed send...

    Today's Series of Events 6/15/2006

    First: Dan Chattin calls and says Phil Piccolo ruined him. Quote
    "My partners never knew I was coming out to Florida... I am ruined"

    Next: Dan Atkinson Quote "Phil Piccolo how stupid a man are you
    - You are a DEAD MAN - Watch Your Back"

    Next: On their conference calls they slammed Phil Piccolo and they are sending
    out old garbage that one broke musician from Minnesota who has gone Bankrupt
    twice and wiped out an 8 million dollar slander Judgement that has said bad things
    about every single Million Dollar Earner in Network Marketing History...

    This one BROKE MUSICIAN has called Phil Piccolo The one man Internet Crime Machine.
    However does not show any evidence of the accusations...
    Plus he has a disclaimer on his site that says this is all in Parody...

    LOOK Phil is no saint and has made mistakes and this is not one of them...
    This is not about Phil Piccolo and his Good or Bad reputation.
    This is about 15,000 people buying a product that we have all been deceived about.
    We have been deceived about the TESTING, Deceived about Enrique, Deceived about 4-Ecorp
    Management and Deceived about The Compensation Plan which got changed after 30,000 people got in to give 4-Ecorp more Breakage...

    This is not about competition from another company...
    aaTCM has grown way past the success of 4-Ecorp prior to any and all of this happening...
    Phil has earned more in the last 5 weeks than 4-Ecorp has paid out to their whole company...
    Phil did not do this to sponsor more people...

    Next: Daniel Chattin tells his best friend Rick Garland he is going to The FBI because
    Phil Piccolo mentioned concrete shoes. And he now fears for his life....

    Now let's check out this scene in Dan Chattin's life...
    Phil Piccolo is driving Dan back to the airport and Rick Garland is on Phil's speaker phone in the car.
    Phil tells Rick to congratulate Dan since he has accepted the CEO position and shook hands on it.
    At the same time Phil's cell phone rings and it is Richard Skaggs the President of OMSTAR D-1280X
    and Phil excitingly tells Richard we have a NEW CEO... With Richard and Rick both on Speaker Phones.
    Richard Skaggs says congratulations is it all a done deal... Phil responds yes it is 100%...
    Richard says so we have a concrete deal and Phil says yep... concrete deal or concrete shoes...
    and EVERYONE LAUGHED... Dan, Phil, Richard and Rick all joking and laughing...

    Now we here Dan Chattin is filing an FBI Report because he is scared of what Phil Piccolo
    will do now that he has not accepted the CEO Position... Quote to Rick... I am in fear for my life...
    don't you remember what Phil said about CONCRETE SHOES...
    I need to file a complaint with my brother-in-law who is an FBI Agent...

    Maybe Dan Chattin should remind the FBI of who he is in reference to the situation...
    with some Indian Tribe being defrauded of Millions...
    Rumor has it that he was or still is part of some kind of FBI investigation...

    OK... HERE IS THE BOTTOM LINE:

    Enrique if you have Test from EPA APPROVED LABS
    which is right on the front of your new site for 4-Ecorp
    JUST show us the proof on your Website

    If you went to Harvard as was claimed and got a DEGREE
    Put it on the Website... Did you now say at the meeting it
    was in Economics or was it in HOME ECONOMICS..
    Like a Cooking class...

    Dan Atkinson just produce copies of your last 6 months checks
    and put them on the website. Your CORPORATE BROCURE says
    you have earned $100,000 a month...Stop talking about Phil Piccolo and
    JUST SHOW US THE MONEY...

    Dan is The Caddilac Escalade you are driving belong to Daniel Chattin
    JUST ANSER THE QUESTION Mr Corporate Brocure $100,000 a month EARNER for 20 YEARS...

    Daniel Chattin just show how much of the ALMOST 6 MILLION dollars
    went to COMMISSIONS... you all say more than 50%... Just PROVE IT

    Daniel, Shane and Dan did you take $100,000 each out when
    HALF THE PEOPLE did not even get their PRODUCTS YET...
    YES OR NO...

    PLEASE EVERYONE THIS IS NOT ABOUT Phil PICCOLO
    He does not have 15,000 or so orders of YOUR MONEY...
    He has not done the conference calls and listed
    10 GREAT REASONS to Join 4-E of which 9 cannot be proven
    He did not just take in SIX MILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR MONEY
    and in MANY CASES NOT DELIVER THE PRODUCT...

    We are sure that Florida, Texas, California and Michigan State Attorneys Office
    Would love to hear about another Gas Additive Company that is taking money
    and not delivering the products for most as of yet...

    Please if you have any information about any of these men now or in past
    dealings please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line INFORMATION

    If your check has been cashed and it has been weeks with no product
    please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line NO PRODUCT

    If you were one of the people who got two checks out of your account like
    my 77 year old mom without her permission
    please send it to d1280x@msn.com
    put in the subject line CHECK FRAUD

    I have to really laugh at this one.

    That SPAM was sent out by Phil Piccolo aka Johnny D'Angelo because he was fuming angry at being kicked out of yet another network marketing company. This isn't the first time he was kicked out and it certainly won't be the last.
    Please don't post crap SPAMMED out by a proven historical crook like Phil Piccolo. And don't email Phil Piccolo either, it's his scheme to catch your email address for future. And class action lawsuit? Over what? He himself is peddling an old Ethos formulation while currently trashing Ethos. Let's at least entertain stuff from someone who is at least SANE.

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    a little on AATCM...

    I would like to expose the "reasoning" behind them NOT ALLOWING THE BINARY TO START JUST YET.

    In almost 50 days of business they have "BOASTED" about having 40-50-60,000, and now 80,000 distributors now in such short time. First of all that is not true. A free signup doesn't mean its a paying distributor. This in and of itself is a scam. In fact, this is the second scam done by AATCM. Let me explain their first scam.

    They've been going for thirty-something days now and have NOT allowed the binary to open. What does that mean when it comes to Money? HUGE COMMISSIONS back to the company. Let me explain.

    If all they allow you to do is build one leg and keep you from building on the other side they have you putting all your key contacts in on the team leg or power leg and the scam is that you will likely NEVER catch up to the power leg and the only true benefit is matching bonuses, which is a scam too because those contacts you put in -in order to get matching bonuses from them they have to build THEIR INSIDE LEGS TOO....AND THEY CAN'T YET. What does all that mean? It means that the company is eating up networkers all over the world FIRST so when you go to build up your weak leg ... a. all the big networkers are likely taken and b. the company gets to FEAST on all the binary volume commission because "you haven't caught up on your weak leg yet." In fact, YOU WILL NEVER CATCH UP TO IT AND THEY KNOW IT, AND THAT BASICALLY TRANSLATES TO, "THE COMPANY IS GOING TO MAKE MORE MONEY OFF YOU THAN YOUR WHOLE TEAM COULD EVER MAKE. It's just a scam.

    Oh yeah, let's look at what they wrote in their latest email, "So keep the faith on when it opens and let's leave it at that." What?

    OH MY GOSH. IF THAT DOESN'T SMELL SCAMMISH THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES. This company is smart from a company stand point though. Let's face it ....get in everyone on a powerleg...they'll never catch up to it....we can feast off the binary volume on the 80,000 member powerleg....they will never catch up.....ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!

    Well guess what? True networkers smell a rat and we're not STUPID. You go ahead and join and do it, and AATCM will make more money off you than you've ever made in your LIFETIME!!!!! They're laughing all the way to the bank.

    What a joke!

    By the way. FFI is LIGHT YEARS ahead of all the other companies.

    The Whistle Blower

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    As far as testing Ehos how could they scam Fox News who ran thier own independent test,can anyone explian this to me.

    Emmision any time you lower emmision you are burning less fuel, now I did see on the emmision test that it did lower emmision. Are you saying that this is a set up to. Making the claim that the US Army is using the product, well now that takes brass balls if indeed they are not using the product.

    Also saying EPA appoved, again that is a marketing no no if it is not true, yet they make the claim.

    The problem with 4Ecorp, they have a good product but jump the gun before they ironed out all the "small" stuff.

    From the above blog, the management and marketing team are a bunch of rookies, that have something that will make a buck, but they all want to be CEO's and make a big score with out doing thier home work.

    As far as dipping into peoples cking accounts with out any product to del. tells me that overhead is over the revenue intake.

    My gut feeling is the inventor is being taken for a hype ride in the snow! If that is the case than this product is doomed! Just from all the "bad mouthing" it is getting.

    It comes down to it is not what the company says or claims it how it preforms, which is now poorly. If all above is true!

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Funny, sounds like the pot calling the kettle black. LOL

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Current Date: 06/17/2006
    Court Current Through: 02-27-2006
    Source: CLERK OF THE COURT, SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT, CA
    Database Last Updated: 04-23-2006

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    Case Type: ACCOUNT STATED

    Filing Office: SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT - SOUTH BAY
    Venue: SAN DIEGO, CA

    PARTY INFORMATION

    Plaintiff: ASSET ACCEPTANCE LLC - PRIMARY PLAINTIFF
    Plaintiff: NEXTCARD - SECONDARY, OTHER PLAINTIFF
    Defendant: VILMORIN ENRIQUE - PRIMARY DEFENDANT
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    PARTY INFORMATION

    Plaintiff: CALIFORNIA COMMERCE BANK - PRIMARY PLAINTIFF
    Defendant: C F R MEXICO S A DE C V - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: GRUPO AIM LIMITED INC - PRIMARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: DE VILMORIN ENRIQUE - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: DE VILMORIN SUSAN - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: EMPACADORA VICKI S A DE C V - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
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    Case Number: 621134
    Filing Date: 02/16/1990

    Case Type: BREACH OF CONTRACT

    Filing Office: SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT - SAN DIEGO
    Venue: SAN DIEGO, CA

    PARTY INFORMATION

    Plaintiff: EMERGING PLASTICS INC - PRIMARY PLAINTIFF
    Defendant: DE VILMORIN ENRIQUE - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: GRUPO AIM LIMITED INC - PRIMARY DEFENDANT
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    Filing Office: SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT - SAN DIEGO
    Venue: SAN DIEGO, CA

    PARTY INFORMATION

    Plaintiff: FRESH CHOICE PRODUCE INC - PRIMARY PLAINTIFF
    Defendant: DE VILMORAIN ENRIQUE - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: DE VILMORAIN SUSAN - SECONDARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: DE VILMORIN ENRIQUE - PRIMARY DEFENDANT
    Defendant: DE VILMORIN SUSAN - SECONDARY
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    Filing Office: SAN DIEGO COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT - SAN DIEGO
    Venue: SAN DIEGO, CA

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    I believe the best is not on your list. Of course, Ethos, BP & Enviro-Max may not agree, but thanks for hearing me out.

    The name is PowerPlusMPG. See [the mean mod removed my spam]. This company is a subsidiary of DreamLife Products, LLC--a 10 year old, successful MLM company with 4 million active distributors and customers world-wide.
    1) The owner, Brent Holland, became a self-made millionaire at the age of 19.
    2) The company has had a Toll Free number for its 10 year existence and is comitted to always being easily accessible to its reps and customers.
    3) This is (as far as I know) the only company with 50% & 100% matching bonuses on a binary compensation plan. There is no flushing.
    4) The product is received 2 to 3 days after the order is placed!
    5) The owner has an excellent relationship with our Governor (this statement is not meant to imply endorsement of our product).
    6) The field testing for the Liquid has shown up to and on some ocassions over a 45% increase in gas mileage. I personally got an extra 80 miles on my second tank of gas. I drive a 99 Mazda Millenia--this was before the liquid!
    7) The owner has just paid for an independent study to verify the extraordinary results we've seen.
    8) One of the premiere scientists (and his team) has signed a 20 year contract to only produce products and do research for our company! Dr. Kent Smith, the director of Petroleum Fuel Combustion Engineering Inc., a petroleum fuel consultancy, was active in this original research at YUKOS. The mission of PFCE Inc. is to take laboratory research and convert it into “real world” technology. It is the culmination of this Russian research that is embodied in Power Plus MPG. See the Web-Site ([removed by mod]) for more information; I'm sure I have messed up something.
    9) There is less than 4000 distributors in PowerPlusMPG. The liquid just came out. The liquid is already selling like wild-fire. The Parent Company hasn't even advertised PowerPlusMPG to its 4 million customers and distributors yet. Anyone who joins this company could realize an opportunity of a lifetime!
    10) Sorry, but it is still hard work to build any business (including a MLM biz). This business, however, has an incredibly easy product to market. Who doesn't want to save money on their fuel cost?

    One of the largest construction companies in our area uses the product in all of its vehicles and machinery. D&J Construction just reported a 50% increase in mileage on their diesels. I know it's hard to believe, but I can put you intouch with them or their upline if you need proof. They just purchased a 10,000 gallon tank so they can easily fuel all of their vehicles with PowerPlus treated gas.

    I know that I haven't convinced everyone, but this is incredible! Sorry for the long post. Tell me what you think [and removed even more spam]. Regardless of your chosen business, I wish you success. Please keep an eye out for us. Thanks.
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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    The Doctor's Rastafarian chickens are Riiillly p***d off now!!!
    That napthalene enema has put IBobRhodeIslandRedare on I warpath for gaspillz
    hucksters!
    Bloodclot!!!
    Originally Posted by scambuster
    OK...when somebody throws a rod through his hood because of this stuff, let me know!
    Happened to the doctor just the other day.
    Some eedjit snuck up an' put one o' them pillz in the doc's car.
    Now, the doc don't use his gas tank, (I've hired my neighbor's Rastafarian chickens to crap straight into the carburetor), so when this pill vaporized, the car backfired, and blew a jet o' napthalene straight up the chicken's keester.
    He came flyin' back in the doctor's face, all mad and burned, and in fending him off with a handy walking stick, a wild swipe put said stick thru the windshield, and embedded it in the hood of the doctor's Big Ass Caddy.

    Washington Post had an article recently. "No Secrets, Just Scams"
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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance-or-Enviro-Max-Plus which is better?

    Interesting,

    Another newcomer to the world of MLM. I hope this does not have the same fate as YUKOS OIL did. (g)

    Good luck to all,

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    This is intresting thread. Scammers are trying to convince each other that their scam is better. Good luck.

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    I believe that they are actually trying to convince themselves.
    Michael Webster, Ph.D LL.B.

    Suite 1250, 180 Dundas St West
    Toronto, ON

    Misleading Advertising Law

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    Re: The truth - Ethos FR - FFi - Bioperformance - or - Enviro-max which is better?

    Quote Originally Posted by bizopca
    I believe that they are actually trying to convince themselves.
    Tried them all and ended up sticking with the old reliable RXP that has been available for decades. Always nice to think that there might be something come along that works a little better, but nothing has measured up so far except the latest formula of RXP, RXP Generation II.

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