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    Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    I read in the newspaper the other day that they are saying the Tamiflu vaccine is not strong enough if anyone gets the BIRD FLU which we know is a HOAX... it will NOT be effective enough. They are now saying, it NEEDS to be 12 times STRONGER than the FLU SHOT ( another scam) Boy! when they make it 12 times stronger and people are injected with that, they surely will DIE from it! They sure know how to contradict themselves.... on the news where they run those captions on the bottom of the screen. It said, someone got bird flu, I forgot what country, and the person took the tamilfu vaccine and is doing alright! They can't keep their stories straight can they? This bird flu propaganda is so insane! Every day on the news or at yahoo they are PUMPING NEWS about the BIRD FLU, HOAX. Why dont they shut up already! I am sick of their PROPAGANDA!

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    The only propaganda I see is all the drivel I see posted in this subject heading concerning the bird flu. You people need to educate yourselves, don't just listen to what reporters, and your buddies on here say.

    The reason why Tamiflu will not work for any avian flu that may come about is because they are two totally different strains of disease. The initial cases that people are getting the avian flu(like the ones we read about now) is not technically going to be the "real" avian flu.. try to follow along with me now. I realize that the news media is partly to blame for the confusion on the subject, sometimes they don't clearly define what really is meant by the avian flu (that will spread like wildfire).

    People get the influenza virus, or the flu, right ? While birds get their own type of flu, or avian flu.. it both makes them sick (respectively), and occasionaly you get a strain that will cross over into another species and make them sick (like avian transmitting to human). Is this the dreaded avian flu everyone talks about ? NO! When people are discussing the all out, fear for your life pandemic Avian Flu, they mean the strain that results when avian flu is contracted within a human host and mutates to a form that is highly transmisable to other humans.. and is subsequently much more dangerous. It would be much like the plague at that point, or when the Spanish Flu struck in the early 1900's.

    Here's what people need to realize: there's not much of a chance that we are going to have a vaccine or cure for something if we don't know what it looks like yet. We won't know what it looks like until it mutates into it's highly contagious human form. Scientists have no idea how long it will take for the avian flu to mutate, or if even that it will in our lifetimes. These are the facts. Now will everyone stop posting their bull**** up about this already ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronniesav
    The only propaganda I see is all the drivel I see posted in this subject heading concerning the bird flu. You people need to educate yourselves, don't just listen to what reporters, and your buddies on here say.

    The reason why Tamiflu will not work for any avian flu that may come about is because they are two totally different strains of disease. The initial cases that people are getting the avian flu(like the ones we read about now) is not technically going to be the "real" avian flu.. try to follow along with me now. I realize that the news media is partly to blame for the confusion on the subject, sometimes they don't clearly define what really is meant by the avian flu (that will spread like wildfire).

    People get the influenza virus, or the flu, right ? While birds get their own type of flu, or avian flu.. it both makes them sick (respectively), and occasionaly you get a strain that will cross over into another species and make them sick (like avian transmitting to human). Is this the dreaded avian flu everyone talks about ? NO! When people are discussing the all out, fear for your life pandemic Avian Flu, they mean the strain that results when avian flu is contracted within a human host and mutates to a form that is highly transmisable to other humans.. and is subsequently much more dangerous. It would be much like the plague at that point, or when the Spanish Flu struck in the early 1900's.

    Here's what people need to realize: there's not much of a chance that we are going to have a vaccine or cure for something if we don't know what it looks like yet. We won't know what it looks like until it mutates into it's highly contagious human form. Scientists have no idea how long it will take for the avian flu to mutate, or if even that it will in our lifetimes. These are the facts. Now will everyone stop posting their bull**** up about this already ??
    So while we wait for it to pop up, in a highly transmissible and contagious form, noone needs to take the useless Tamiflu. It appears that would make sense. A cure cannot be made, by their definition, until the strain that needs to be fought appears. One will never benefit from vaccines; the ingredients are mostly poisons that suppress the immune system.
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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Tamiful is not a vaccine, it's an anti-viral drug. It potentially has some prophylactic (i.e. preventative) effects against a variety of influenza viruses, but it's primarily used to block the viruses from replicating after infection.

    Will it work against the as yet non-existant mutant bird flu? Who knows? It's impossible to say.. it might but there's a strong possibility that it won't.

    Of course, if you think that vaccines are scams and dangerous they you're welcome to try out smallpox or polio to see how you like them.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamoo

    Of course, if you think that vaccines are scams and dangerous they you're welcome to try out smallpox or polio to see how you like them.

    Hey, that's exactly what I said in one of my other replies.. lol.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dynamoo
    Tamiful is not a vaccine, it's an anti-viral drug. It potentially has some prophylactic (i.e. preventative) effects against a variety of influenza viruses, but it's primarily used to block the viruses from replicating after infection.

    Will it work against the as yet non-existant mutant bird flu? Who knows? It's impossible to say.. it might but there's a strong possibility that it won't.

    Of course, if you think that vaccines are scams and dangerous they you're welcome to try out smallpox or polio to see how you like them.
    I think we should spend more time learning why certain viruses don't kill everybody. Some people are immune, and aren't affected. Interesting that throughout history, there have always been people that survive despite not having the modern medicine like we have today. Noone focuses on that though.

    I am not the only one that thinks they are dangerous. So injecting aluminum into our bloodstream isn't dangerous ? I know you agree with thimerosal and ethyl mercury, which is a no brainer, but formaldehyde, aluminum, and c'mon... human aborted fetal tissue ???? There are natural ways to boost immune systems without suppressing it with all the junk they are putting in vaccines.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Oh yes, you can certainly boost immune systems.. such as a healthy diet and good exercise regime. That can help ward off many different types of infection, but in my view you simply can't beat vaccination if you want to prevent a certain type of virus.

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    20 Reasons Not To Take The Smallpox Vaccination
    by Amy Worthington

    1. George W. Bush has said of smallpox vaccination: "One of my concerns if we were to have universal vaccination, some might lose their life." - The Times (in London), November 09, 2001.

    2. For each million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, as many as 250 could die, according to the American Medical Association. Multiply 250 times 285 (millions of Americans) and the possible deaths from universal smallpox vaccination could equal 71,250. - Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132.

    3. "The American Medical Association said on Tuesday it was not in favor of an immediate mass U.S.smallpox vaccination program, saying the potential threat of a bioterror attack did not warrant inoculating every American against the disease." - Reuters, December 12, 2001.

    4. "Right now the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the benefit. You could get a secondary infection, a full-blown systemic infection." - Marie Rau, Panhandle Health District nurse, quoted by The Spokesman-Review, November 20, 2001.

    5. CDC director Jeffrey Koplan has admitted that universal smallpox vaccination could unleash a significant number of side-effects. He said that because many parts of our population do not have a "robust immune system," a fair number of people could have serious reactions. - Koplan speaking on the PBS special "Bioterror Propaganda" aired by WETA, November 14, 2001.

    6. If the entire nation were to receive a smallpox vaccine, several thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain. - Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

    7. Roger J. Pomerantz, chief of the infectious disease department at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, said that doctors have no idea what the smallpox vaccine might do to people at the extremes of life--less than 2 and older than 65. He said that an even greater concern would be its effect on people with weakened immune systems from HIV infection, chemotherapy or transplants. - Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

    8. "Researchers have been reluctant to recommend a new vaccination program which would use the smallpox vaccine for the local population because the vaccine can cause disease and death in persons with inadequate immune systems." - Science, Vol. 277, July 18, 1997, pp. 312-13.

    9. Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972. Officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the vaccine is the most reactive of all and has been linked to serious side effects, including death. - Reuters, November 29, 2001.

    10. Eight printed pages of medical studies documenting the many serious side effects of smallpox vaccination can be obtained at http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html. See "smallpox vaccine adverse reactions 66-76." [Note: go to the home page above and put "smallpox vaccine adverse reaction" in the search engine.] Repercussions include serious brain and heart diseases, autism, abnormal chromosomal changes, diabetes, various cancers and leukemias, plus demyelination of nerve tissue years after vaccination.

    11. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that vaccination must not be forced on persons whose physical condition would make such vaccination "cruel and inhuman." In other words, the state has no right to command that an individual sacrifice his life in the name of public health. - Jacobsen V. Massachusettes, 197 U.S. 11 (1905).

    12. By the 1920s, several British medical researchers documented that smallpox was not only more common among the VACCINATED, but that the DEATH RATE from smallpox was actually higher among those who had been vaccinated. This indicates that the vaccine was ineffective and predisposed vaccinated persons to more lethal disease. - Vaccination, Dr. Viera Scheibner, Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220.

    13. Getting a vaccination does not guarantee immunity. - CDC, January 28, 1994.

    14. By 1987, scientific evidence indicated that the World Health Organization's 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign may have awakened dormant HIV infection in many vaccinees. - Times (in London) May 11, 1987.

    15. Vaccines made from animal substrate contain animal viruses that are impossible to filter out. By 1961, scientists discovered that animal viruses in vaccines, including smallpox, could act as a carcinogen when given to mice in combination with cancer-causing chemicals, even in amounts too small to induce tumors alone. They concluded that vaccine viruses function as a catalyst for tumor production. - Science, December 15, 1961.

    16. Some of the new smallpox vaccine doses will be created with animal substrate. Because the vaccine will incorporate vaccinia, the cowpox virus, many wonder about possible mad-cow contamination. Fifty-five million doses of the new vaccine will be created using a cell line dating back to 1966 and cultured from the lung tissues of an aborted human fetus. - World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.

    17. The new smallpox vaccine will be genetically engineered. Many scientists believe that genetically engineered vaccines may be responsible for the global epidemic of auto-immune disease and neurological dysfunction. - American College of Rheumatology, annual meeting, Nov. 8-12, 1998. Merck's genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccine, Recombivax HB, is a classic example. According to Dr. Bonnie Dunbar of Baylor College of Medicine, many thousands of reported adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine include: chronic fatigue, neurological disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like disease. - Testimony of Dr. Dunbar to Texas Dept. of Health, March 12, 1999.

    Over 15,000 French citizens sued the French government to stop mandatory hepatitis B injections for school children because of resulting auto-immune diseases. - Science, July 31, 1998.

    Dr. John Classen has published voluminous data showing that the hepatitis B and other vaccines are closely linked to the development of insulin dependent diabetes. - Infectious Diseases in Clinical Practice, October 22, 1997.

    18. The British vaccine manufacturer Medeva has a horrendous record of contamination and blunders. In 2000, the FDA found that Medeva was making vaccines in conditions of filth, resulting in contaminated products. Medeva had been illegally using bovine medium to culture its polio vaccines, then lied about it. Medeva also used the blood of a Creutzfeldt-Jakob victim (mad cow) to manufacture 83,000 doses of polio vaccine used for {against?} Irish children. Nevertheless, the FDA allowed the USA to accept Medeva's flu vaccine (Fluvirin) for the year 2000. - London Observer series: October 20-26, 2000.

    19. In 2001, the British socialized health care system was reported to be in a state of collapse, with many hospitals and labs operating in abysmal filth. Five thousand people die each year from infections contracted in British hospitals; 10,000 become deathly ill from such infections. Sterilization procedures are barely adequate and said to be risking the spread of mad cow disease. Government ministers are reportedly trying to hush up the scandal. http://www.itn.co.uk/ Jan 06, 2001; The Sunday Times of London, November 12, 2001.

    20. The U.S. government apparently intends to conduct NO double blind studies on the safety and efficacy of the new smallpox vaccine. It has ordered 286 million doses, one for every man, woman and child in America at a cost of $428 million. At least half of this vaccine will be delivered by Acambis PLC of great Britain.

    Tip of the Week: Keep all vaccine needles away from your body!

    Vaccination Liberation - Idaho Chapter - Ingri Cassel, President
    P.O. Box 1444, Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816
    (208) 255-2307 / 765-8421 Email: vaclib@coldreams.com
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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Smallpox is a virus that has been successfully eradicated by vaccination. There's no need to vaccinate against smallpox currently, but without vaccination it would still be a major health problem.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    There's no reasoning with insanity, I'm sorry you feel the way you do Rawb, have a nice vaccine-free existence.

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    Hi,

    Tamiflu is known to work effectively when the flu treatment is initiated within two days of the first onset of symptoms. In addition, Tamiflu can be used as a preventive treatment also.

    For adults and adolescents 13 years or older, the recommended oral dose is 75mg oseltamivir twice daily, for 5 days. For children one year or older, Tamiflu oral suspension is available. Children with body weight of 40 kg and above may be prescribed the adult dosage of 75mg twice daily for 5 days.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    Quote Originally Posted by reentry View Post
    ... I have missed the point please dont hesitate to enlighten me.
    Hey dumb ass If you need me to post the names I will. Because you are a liar misdirector and a charleton plus you personally attack me start a thread on me here on scam.com I have to wonder why you do not post the names of those on the Charity.
    We all know the reason that you wont post them is because the legitimate owner of the Charity was never McGrath, be honest for once and post the name you coward.

    As to your research I did not say it was illegal today read the post dumb ass.

    Post The Names
    Who Were The Trustees? Not the company the name of the people...Who wrote the check that paid for the incorporation of the charity?
    Post the names on the Charter for the defunct SCO37940.

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    Re: Tamiflu vaccine is too weak ...

    yoo-hoo! anybody reading this thread? WTF is this last post from asmotj doing popping up in threads all over the scam forums tonight?

    on topic: i read today that not only is tamiflu too weak an anti-viral agent to be useful in bird flu or swine flu, the shit is manufactured by donnie rumsfeld's company and he's already made a shitpile off it on a stock sale around release time, but stands to make a whole lot more if they can legislate it into subsidized flu shots. way to go donnie! and thanks for the aspartame, too, you freakin' demon-worshipping, war-mongering, slave-keeping mutant spawn of an insane alien space whore!

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