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  1. #1
    Whispering wind Guest

    March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Revelation 12 in the sky on
    March 29, 2006

    Revelation 12 will literally play itself out in the western skies over Israel on March 29, 2006 during a Total Solar Eclipse of the Sun, with Virgo ('Woman clothed with the Sun, Moon under her feet') having in her belly the planet Venus (Child)


    with Mars (Red Dragon) seemingly awaiting nearby. It should prove interesting.

    March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse Over Africa, Middle East, Israel, Turkey

    And there appeared a Great Wonder in heaven; a Woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet
    and upon her head a Crown of twelve stars: And she being with Child cried, travailing in birth, and great
    pained to be delivered. And there appeared another Wonder in heaven; and behold a Great Red Dragon,
    having seven heads and ten horns, and seven Crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of
    the Stars of Heaven, and did cast them to the Earth: and the Dragon stood before the Woman which
    was ready to be delivered, for to devour her Child as soon as it was born. (Revelation 12)



  2. #2
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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Run everyone the end of the world is nigh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And your point is.......
    it's in the bibble????????????
    You making predictions?????
    you remember what happened last time you did that.......... stuie splat!!!!!

  3. #3
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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    So what's your point? Revelation? Come on whoever wrote that was one crazy dude. I wish I had a dollar for everytime the world was supposed to end. I thought the world was supposed to end in the year 2000? Remember all that bull? This world will end when our sun burns itself out which will be in about 5 billion more years, give or take a few hundred million.

  4. #4
    Whispering wind Guest

    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Nostradamus and his Quatrain about a King of Terror from the sky in 1999 bringing forth the "King of Angolmois" from below. Yet as many looked for the most obvious thing falling from the sky in July/August 1999, perhaps it was actually a more subtle event going on with the Sun and it's effect on earth which they should have investigated closer.

    In the year 1999 after Seven full months
    From the sky will come the Great King of Terror
    who will bring back the Great King of Angolmois
    Before and after this, shall Mars reign supreme

    -Century X Quatrain 72

    The 1999 Solar Eclipse, King Arthur, 11:11 and the Antichrist
    Knowing the well recited Quatrain of Nostradamus presented above, many have asked 'did that ever happen' or 'what happened' during the months of July to August 1999 that relates to this seemingly overt, dire, and catastrophic event mentioned in Century X Quatrain 72. In fact a very strange event did occur at the right timeframe, exactly matching Nostradamus' words despite the 'experts in prophetic research' believing it to be a prophecy yet unfulfilled, they not knowing what to look for. This "fourth Stargate" opened on the morning of August 11, 1999 at precisely 11:11 am [GMT; London time] in the already blackening skies over England, when a dark shadow from the "last Total Solar Eclipse of the Millennium" first cast itself upon earth over Tintagel, Cornwall in England. -- Now, this would mean very little to anyone if it weren't for a few things. First, the Solar Eclipse itself is a powerfully wrought and ancient occult portent relating directly to the omen of Satan's Antichrist. Second, 11:11 is a Satanic number relating directly to the Antichrist. Third, and perhaps the most interesting of all is where the Total Eclipses' shadow was first cast upon earth... Tintagel, the legendary birthplace of King Arthur.


    Notwithstanding, their are several more things to consider, one of them being the Grand Cross Alignment appearing exactly one week later on August 18 1999 in the skies over Britain within the astrological signs of the Lion, Eagle, Bull, and Aquarius/Man. Take careful notice at those, as they are the same four (1+1+1+1) Holy Beasts of Revelation (chapter 4:7) who later pour out Hell on earth. The actual Cross shape itself formed was an equal sided 'Celtic Cross,' the Solar Cross of Britain at the time of King Arthur and found everywhere throughout the ancient British isles. Many in the occult attribute this cross to not being a Christian symbol at all, yet a very ancient pagan rune of their Sun God. Others have likened Grand Cross Alignment to an imperfect 'crooked cross' or solar Swastika, therefore relating it to the Antichrist (interesting, as those seemingly dually opposing views are both correct). The reference to Mars reigning supreme before and after the 1999 event alludes to the fact that in both 1988 and 2003, Mars was closer to earth than ever before in modern history. The recent years of 2003-2004 saw Mars closer than it had been in the last 60,000 years. In the occult, Mars being so near represents a sign of great change about to take place, catastrophe, upheaval, war, and in the ancient world, the Devil himself. Mars being this close is said to signal the time of Satan and his Antichrist King being chosen. This in combination with the recent 19.5-Mars research that has been done relating the specific area known as Cydonia to England easily provides the identity of the nation this King shall ascend out of. You will come to learn as I did that England, Scotland, and Wales are time and again at the very center of paranormal activity.





    In summary, we have the 11:11 synchronicity and a Total Solar Eclipse directly relating to King Arthur's birthplace, connected to a celestial Celtic Cross, linked to the Apocalypse of Revelation and the Antichrist King enigamtically called Angolmois, whose own ominous return is heralded by Mars (the Devil). Renowned occult author and practicing witch Kathy Doore has stated "...the August 1999 Cross in the heavens will form the Egyptian [or Hebraic] Tau which is the emblem of the Initiate who has triumphed over death. It also signifies the 22nd and last letter of the Hebrew alphabet denoting the end and perfection of the Kabbalistic Great Work, and the Return of the Grail King." Another well known occult author, Joseph Mason, has stated: "The Tribes of Israel correspond directly with the Grand Cross Alignment that is cast over a people (the British) who are thought to have the Royal Blood of the Ancient Hebrew Kings." All in all, these celestial events on August 11, 1999 were many and clearly meant to be noticed, leaving no more question as to the meaning behind the now infamous Quatrain above about the 1999 Eclipse 'the Great King of Terror'(Satan) who comes to bring back the spirit of "King Angolmois," other than who or what is 'the Angolmois'? (Note to reader: remember, to the Occult mindset, Satan is the Sun God; Diana is the Moon Goddess, and their union together is represented by the symbol of an Eclipse, which is the symbol for their offspring, the Antichrist.

    Eclipses/events in Diana/William's Life/Death

    Prince Charles and Diana married July 29, 1981: Solar Eclipse
    Prince William born at St. Mary's June 21, 1982: Solar Eclipse
    Prince Charles and Diana announce divorce Dec. 9, 1992: Lunar Eclipse
    Princess Diana killed in suspect crash August 31, 1997: Next day Solar Eclipse
    The King Arthur Solar Eclipse: Last Solar Eclipse of the Millennium: August 11, 1999


    Other related links














  5. #5
    Whispering wind Guest

    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse


    Anglo = White, of British descent, derived from the word 'Angel'
    Lion = Lineage of Judah/Christ; the heraldic symbol of England
    Sang = (French) 'Blood,' as in Sangraal or Holy Blood. The Grail
    Solomon = Son to King David; a Messiah Bloodline descendant

    When the Eclipse of the Sun will then be
    The Beast's Omen will be seen in the daylight
    One will interpret it much different from the rest
    High price unguarded: many ill-prepared for it

    -Century III Quatrain 34

    This Solar Eclipse on August 11, 1999 at 11:11am over Tintangel, England was considered by many in the occult to be the literal "seeding moment for the spiritual birth of the New Aquarian Messiah. It is the representative or rebirth of the Arthur archetype." The final and some say most startling piece of evidence relating the Eclipse to King Arthur is the star Arcturus, as it rose precisely to its highest point during mid-eclipse in 1999." Arcturus is known as the Star(s) of Satan [see 7th paragraph here]. Also mentioned was Angol (the Demon Star) and its relation to Prince William the future king, born of the Serpent. Still another site about the 11:11 phenomena stated "The Omen on Aug. 11th, 1999 is taking place right in front of of Leo (Christ), on the 222nd day of the year and exactly 144 days before year 2000. Nine months after, on May 5 2000, a conjunction of planets formed a 'New Star of Bethlehem' made with a single strand of planets aligned in a row." More interesting than that was the way those same planets were perfectly aligned in the 12 Houses of the Zodiac Ring for they foretold the return of a King.* This King of Terror, or future King who will come from England, combined with the 11:11 symbology and its Eclipse was ultimately to send a powerful portent to Satanists, even knowledgeable (Gnostic) Christians, telling them their long awaited 'Aquarian Age' has finally arrived and their ancient King has been reborn, meaning the spirit of Antichrist, ('the King who was') has arisen, and is soon to go into the Son of Perdition as prophesied.







    Just as Christ has His 12 disciples who were as '12 Astrological Planets revolving around their central Sun,' - the Antichrist will also have his 12 Zodiacal personages placing him at center. These are his Ten subordinate Kings (or Knights), along with his False Prophet (11) and that of his Mother Goddess (12) which only adds to the Satanic interpretion of Revelation chapter 12 seen above which depicts a Woman having 12 stars above her head (...'and the Stars spell out your name..."; 12 lines to make D-I-A-N-A) who bears a Child who is to 'rule all nations'. Interestingly, the omen in Revelation 12 will literally play itself out in the western skies over Israel on March 29, 2006 during a Total Solar Eclipse of the Sun, with Virgo ('Woman clothed with the Sun, Moon under her feet') having in her belly the planet Venus (Child) with Mars (Red Dragon) seemingly awaiting nearby. It should prove interesting. "11 months after the August 11 1999 Solar Eclipse [again 11-11] brought us to the Eclipse on July 1, 2000, and what should have been the 39th birthday of Princess Diana. One year and one month after the alignment of the planets on May 5th 2000, brought us to the Druid Summer Solstice on June 21, 2001, Prince William's day of birth. On that same day there was a uniquely bright corona within the Solar Eclipse over Africa, which 'coincidentally,' William was visting at the time during part of his holiday gap year. (something even more startling and reminiscent of this event was a few months earlier, while Prince William was in Chile, came the dark shadow from a Solar Eclipse cast there). In addition to these events on June 21 2001, there were also a number of giant solar flares striking the earth as well as a comet called Linear C/2001 A2 burning through the sky, all on the same day.


    Exactly one year later saw a day very much like the 1999 King Arthur Solar Eclipse, Mars [The Red Dragon] was shining front and center very bright in the early morning sky, it being closer to earth that it had been in several decades, and was placed in the constellation of the Sceptre [the Sword]. Later in the day was a news report citing a 'killer' near-earth asteroid having just missed our planet - coming within 1/3 of the distance between earth and the moon. Scientists later said had that struck earth, we would already be living in a very different world already. Again, all these strange events seem to happen around Prince William's day of birth or on other renown pagan 'holy days' within the Satanic calendar. Not since the omen by way of a comet cutting through the constellation of Cassiopeia (the Queen) in 1997 that seemingly foretold the death of Princess Diana (which occurred five short months later), have we seen so much esoteric meaning all relating to this most unique (Moon) mother and son (Sun) combination, and strange as it may sound, William Arthur was born under the three water signs in cusp (exactly matching Nostradamus' Century One Quatrain 50 prophecy as well as the Bible's Daniel 7:25). William like his mother was born under the Astrological sign of Cancer. Many of the Occult astrological signs and their encoded numerics are pointing to a single event in (future) time which mirrors an ancient Mayan calendar found in the Americas. The Occult symbol of the Ouroboros, depicting a 'Serpent of Light' (Dragon-Lucifer) residing in the heavens and eating its own tail, adorns many New Age and Satanic material of late. The symbol has its literal roots in scientific astronomy as the Milky Way, viewed at galactic central point (near Sagittarius), is seen as a Serpent seemingly eating its own tail. Occultists believe that when we reach Solar alignment with the head of the Serpent destroying itself, there will be a catastrophic change upon earth. The symbol known as the Suntelia Aion depicts our Sun rising out of the mouth of Ouroboros, which is to occur on the Winter Solstice in December 2012, the exact same date the ancient Mayan calendar ends.






    And as He sat upon the Mount of Olives, the Disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered and said unto them; many shall come in my name saying they are Christ (of Christ's bloodline?) therefore be ye not deceived. Ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars / Be not terrified, for these things must first come to pass, but the end is not yet.

    Then said he unto them, Nation shall rise against nation, and great earthquakes shall be in different places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from Heaven. And there shall be signs in the Sun, and in the Moon, and in the Stars; the sea and the waves roaring. Men's hearts failing them for fear, after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of Heaven shall be shaken. Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass away till all things be fulfilled. -Matthew 24 / Luke 21

  6. #6
    Whispering wind Guest

    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse


    | 2012 |================| 2015 |===============| 2019 |===========| 2022 |

    2006-2012 = Increasing disregard of prophecy; "Evidence" found promoting Magdalene heresy
    2006-2012 = World War III/ Comet strike; US devastated/ Israel attacked/ A dark age begins
    2012-2015 = Ancient "gods" return bringing a New Age to Man/ Golden Age established
    2012-2016 = European King accepted as the Messiah, Israel believes "Lost Tribes" heresy
    2015-2020 = Antichrist conquers Jerusalem/ Great Tribulation begins/ 6th Seal; Vials-Trumps
    2019-2022 = Antichrist destroyed at Armageddon; Millennium of Jesus Christ; Nations restored

    300 years before Christ, the Central American race known as the Maya developed a calendar system which has enigmatically placed the end of our age precisely on December 21, 2012. The Mayans seemingly predicted that the world would "end" on that date based on their complex system which, using the master fourth-dimensional 13:20 matrix, began with the thirteen baktun count on August 13, 3113 BC (others say August 11 3114), a timeframe connected to the planet Venus (Venus = Lucifer; see also the Venus Transit), and ends at the closing of the Great Cycle precisely at 11:18 AM GMT of December 21, 2012. The Mayans had a dual understanding of time which is reflected in the Mayan Tzolkin attuned to fourth dimensional galactic cycles and operated according to a 260-day main cycle (13x20). They also used a secular calendar for recording three dimensional time based on a 360-day (18x20) cycle known as the Long Count. The Long Count consisted of 13 cycles of 144,000 days each (or 5200 cycles of 360 days) totaling approximately 5125 solar years known as a Great Cycle. Currently, we are at the fifth marking of the age which fast approaches to bring about the closing of an "ending of time." The tail end of the Age of Pisces (Christ) is upon us, as is the close of the Mesoamerican Fifth World, and the Kali Yuga of the Hindus, meaning the end of civilization as we currently know it, all nested within the culminating revolution of the Aquarian age, Ouroboros timeframe, and the precessional Cosmic Year bringing forth the end, yet along with it, a new beginning. In one moment, a new world order is to be carved out from the old as global powers are shifted back to their tribal roots and people are literally forced to survive anyway they can. The Age of Fire coming will be announced though massive and violent earth changes which shake the very foundations of the planet. There will come a terrible increase of earthquakes, destructive floods, tsunami, killer famines, uncurable diseases, plagues, increased global hatred, murder, terrorism, and ongoing wars and rumors of wars. Signs shall also appear in the sky, to be taken as warnings that the time is at hand, for nature shall sacrifice its own until the time of crisis is over and the Solar Messiah returns to us; the God of Forces made flesh.





    The above signs are described perfectly in Matthew 24:3-34 as they also serve to show where the world is going, being archetypal foreshadows for what is to come. Even now we are seeing the increasing number of killer storms, famine, pestilance, earthquake, floods and every other disaster as never before showing no sign of stopping as we march toward 2012. Modern techno-prophets such as the late Terrence McKenna (who created the TimeWave Zero theory) and others have developed systems which show varied ways of measuring linear/non-linear time yet all have their conclusion that the last generation of the planet, has to a great extent, already been born. I have discovered thru my own research that the Tribulation period (the seven year time of Antichrist's reign) will certainly begin after 2012. The year 2010 holds much significance and will clear the way for Europe to ascend. In addition, his negotiating and confirming a peace treaty with Israel and its neighbors can occur no earlier than 2015, yet must occur after he is already crowned King. However, this pivotal year of 2012 does serve to act as an anchor point from which we know the age of Antichrist is made manifest shortly after its intended new age. Since King William V will have turned 30 years of age on the Solstice of 2015 (the same age Christ was at the beginning of His three year ministry, as well as the same age David was when he was anointed as King of Israel), we may very well see the beginning of the Tribulation and its 1,260 day countdown begin in or near the year 2015, until what is called the Great Tribulation, of which can then be added another period of 1,290 days (as mentioned in Revelation and Daniel 12) to arrive at a more accurate end-time for final Armageddon which can be no earlier than the year 2018 yet likely closer to August thru September 2022, or thereafter. It should also be noted that the catalyst timeframe may have been recorded within the Hebrew Bible Code Matrix in relation to a comet striking the earth between the years 2006-2012. We have already entered the "Pre-Tribulation period" from January 2006 to December 2012; the seven years of tears which work up toward an end-world destruction scenario in 2012; yet is before the final seven years of Biblical Tribulation. Being that as it may, you will soon begin to hear those claiming to have found some lost artifact or Gospel, prophecy or vision, warning of these things to come, stating God's judgement and mercy is upon us now, albeit connecting this evil Age of Fire with that of God's Millennial New Age of Enlightenment. Beware of these teaching as they, because nothing is immediately brought to us after 2012 except the Age of Satan.







    After misery for mankind an even greater approaches.
    When the great cycle of the centuries is renewed:
    A new rain of blood, milk, famine, war and disease.
    In the sky will be seen a star dragging a tail of sparks.

    -Century II Quatrain 46

    According to several New Age (Occult) propaganda sources, between the years 2012 and 2015, several "magickal objects" of immense global power will be unearthed under such places as Rosslyn Chapel (Scotland), Glastonbury Abbey and Tor, Rennes Le Chateau, and the Atlantic regions of England, Wales, Ireland, and Mexico. Excavations in France, Egypt, Israel, and Iraq are to reveal extraordinary finds as well. All of these will lend support to the New Age rhetoric which makes myth and legend seem as reality (and makes Christian reality seem as myth). The supposed objects to be found are ancient and well known; the Ark of the Covenant, the Emerald Grail, the 13 Crystal Skulls from the Kingdom of Atlantis, eye of Odin, even the the Spear of Destiny. Not surprisingly, Excalibur and other evidences pointing to an historical King Arthur will be found as well. If this is true, then these same objects are only going to help in the coming deception presented to the world for the ultimate purpose of making the Antichrist appear as World King, and later Israel's Messiah, making it dangerous even now in what to believe or not believe, as the search for these items has already began. Much like Adolph Hitler's own mad dream for world conquest sparked his own tireless search for these very same objects, believing that whoever possesses them controls the world, the coming Antichrist will actually have possession of them all '...for he is the Chosen One.' As many in the Occult already know and as also believed within Satanism, the finding of these sacred places and relics of antiquity (including that of the Lost Continent itself), will only help restore the rebel Cherub back to his former glory as Morning Star and thereby King of the World. Once found, they are to cause no less than a revolutionary stir in the scientific and religious mindset of that future time (as it has been designed to), yet one should always remember that some of these objects which seem Biblical, and to some, Holy, as in the case with the Ark of the Covenant, are actually Satan's counterfeits called by the same names - they being relics of his antiquity. Because Israel is still targeted for destruction by Satan, and the Jews so desire to build the Third Temple at Zion, and upon seeing the height of their own current fervor to rebuild that next Temple, one can only wonder if they will be deceived (Scripture indeed tells us they will be deceived by the Antichrist).











  7. #7
    Whispering wind Guest

    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    At present, there is an ongoing search for the Ark of the Covenant, the object which contained the original tablets of Moses and gave Divine, even detructive, power to the ancient Israelites against those armies who attacked them, yet the Knights Templar already claim to be in possession of the Ark of the Covenant having taken it from Jerusalem at the time of the Crusades, supposedly bringing it back to Scotland where they have kept it safe until the world should need it again. Right, they lie. Scripture tells us quite plainly where the Ark of God's Testament truly is - see Jeremiah 3:16 and Revelation 11:19. It is already in Heaven with God, yet when it shall be suddenly "found" in the British Isles, it may be the very catalyst which gives final "legitimate proof" to the many claims citing the Lost Tribes of Israel as being the ancient Britons...and it is all a lie. Meanwhile, in their own fervor for renewed spiritual nationalism, Israel will have great need of the Ark at that time, to make the rebuilt Temple complete, and as their own belief goes, only then will their Messiah appear. It is by this same trickery which, once found, will actually help bring to Satan all he has ever desired. Back on the Occult side of it, objects found such as the Holy Grail, not the Bloodline or even a golden Chalice in this case, but Emerald Crown (some say Third Eye) of Lucifer, which fell with him during his casting out of Heaven, falling to the earth and lost. It is this same Emerald from Lucifer's Crown which will, once "found," restore Lucifer's ancient power, the power of the Morning Star, which is then to be given over to the New Messiah (Antichrist) at the time of his ascension. All of this then speaks volumes as to what is coming upon the earth after that cataclysmic event in 2012, it is to be the New (Golden) Age.




    This coming 'New Age' therefore is little more than a grand and worldwide Satanic deception where demons appear as occult World Masters, Avatars, Teachers, UFO aliens, the ancient Gods of pagan myth. Wherever the Antichrist is found, it is these Angels of a new kind which rejoice in his covert presence as they ready the world for his own arrival...and where there not Angels who rejoiced in the skies over Israel and foretold the arrival of the Messiah 2,000 years ago? Therefore it will be the angels of Antichrist who will announce his revealing, to prepare the way, taking mankind into the next step of their evolution, these same godly beings who came once before to help man awake from the dark recesses of his Cro-magnon mind. They are the Fallen Ones, 'the Annunaki,' the Watchers as spoken of in the Book of Enoch, the fallens angels (Nephilim) of Genesis six, and 'the gods' prophesied in Revelation 9:20. They will come in force to teach the same ancient wisdoms to man that were taught to advanced cultures of pre-history including Atlantis, as well as later in the British Isles, Sumeria, Egypt, Asia, and the ancient Americas. Seeing what is written in Revelation 9:20-21, we can determine that there will be a return of pagan idol worship in the future, images will be made in the likeness of these gods as was done by ancient civilizations in times past, yet more disturbing is that the prophecy also alludes to human sacrifice ("murders") committed in the name of these gods by the same people who worship them. Obviously the world by that point has been paganized into such complete obedience, leaving to wonder why or where this level of total obedience will come from. According to every occultic source I've seen thus far, these Angelic gods will seemingly return to defend earth from an impending global destruction and appear to save mankind from certain demise, which truly makes anything possible and/or believable after that, yet when you consider these same beings will also speak and lie to the world about its true origin and destiny, you realize what Christ said was eerily true, that 'even the very elect would be deceived...' The world is to have a new source of power to worship in those days (far removed from Jesus Christ), and all of this occurs shortly before the rise of Antichrist. Angels descending they may be, yet they have long since fallen from Heaven long ago and can now appear as anything they need in order to deceive, just as they have done so before in the ancient world when they were known by the same names which Satanists still revere to this very day.



    The Ascended Masters, are also perhaps one explanation to Revelation's '10 Kings' who rule for a time with the Antichrist. These might be seen as cultural Prophets or as localized Gods returned beginning a New Golden Age into 'Godly learning and wisdom,' leading one and all towards the New Order, and to the Beast himself. It is certain we are right now at the age of time where many are being enthralled by such information that is found rampant among alternative histories which subtly explain the new age viewpoint in order to intrigue the reader to learn more of what they would later teach. The New Age phenomenon is growing, even as they attempt to make new converts through every means possible, it continues to spread its infection in increasingly more localized ways, in your own community where you live. Their Plan is working, the world is becoming further conditioned and deceived with each year's passing. The Scriptures prophesied of a great defection from the truth just before the rise of the Antichrist-King, therefore this subtle conditioning will certainly have its intended effects upon those still open to its message. The world is being indoctrinated and we are now moving into the latter end of the information war. I have done my part in warning you (you who are reading this). More than anything else you take away from this site, know this, all these things point not to Antichrist and the end of the world or mankind, they are pointing to what is beyond that. Therefore, may the Lord be with you during all the days you've been given, moreover, may you be with Him in these same days unfolding. God Bless.




    *Selected Quotes from the Satanic Necronomicon:
    Men are seen and surveyed by that Ancient Race of gods and demons...and that they seek revenge for that forgotten battle that took place somewhere in the Cosmos and rent the world in the days before the creation of man, when the Elder Gods walked the spaces...I have traveled beneath the Seas in search for the Palace of Our Master and found the stone monuments of vanquished civilizations...and these civilizations were destroyed because of the knowledge contained in this book [page 6]. I have seen the Blood spilt upon the Stone. I have seen that Stone struck with a Sword and have seen the Stone raise up and the Serpent crawl forth [page 209]. For a Sword will appear in the sky at those times, a signal, a signal to the Ancient Ones that one of theirs has escaped and entered into this world and it shall be an omen to thee [page 213]. When the great [Cthulhu] rises up and greets the Stars, then the war will be over, and the world will be One. Such is the covenant of the Abominations [page 202]. Then a New Age will come of earth and the Serpent shall be made whole [page 207]. What is old shall replace that which is new and once again the Ancient Ones shall rule upon the face of the earth [page 166]. They have worshipped the Serpent from Ancient Times and have always been with us. And they are to be known by their seeming human appearance which has the Mark of the Beast upon them.

    And the great Dragon was cast out, that old Serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his Angels were cast out with him...

  8. #8
    Whispering wind Guest

    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

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    The ancient British Throne ("of King David") long awaits its next King

    DANIEL 11:36 And the KING shall do according to his WILL; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against God (I AM), and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished. 2THESSALONIANS 2:1-4,6,9-12 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him, that ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first, and then that Man of Sin be revealed, (the Antichrist), the Son of Perdition who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God...and now ye know what restrains him that he might only be revealed in his time. Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth [Christ], that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    DANIEL 11:37-39 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

    Here we see many things, the first being that Christ will not arrive before the Antichrist, as many in the early Church were obviously concerned with and like many still falsely teach. You hear many today stating that "Christ could return to earth at any moment..." yet this is simply not true, as Christ at any moment closer fits what is called the Rapture (of which no one knows the day or the hour of its occurrence, only the Father). That said, we do know from Scripture and are provided with a very structured series of events and timeline which must occur first before the return of Christ, the most notable of which is obviously the arrival of the Antichrist, and since he is given seven years time (precisely 1,260 days + 1,290 days) to rule, that would mean we are still years away from Armageddon and the time of Christ's return. We are always closer to seeing the return of Antichrist first, even as the world is already being primed for his arrival. I would even say that all of these end-time signs of destruction and chaos are placed there by God to awaken us to this fact, that the Beast is alive and is closer to the Throne with each passing day. Clearly, as seen above, those who reject the Truth (being Christ) which God the Father has seen to be His plan of Salvation for us in the world, will certainly be deceived by the lies the world system will soon provide by those who control it, while those who realize the truth will obviously see only Truth and therefore cannot be deceived by Satan's miracles through his Son of Perdition.

    The Antichrist and his False Prophet will lead the future planet and its false Goddess Church deceiving both Israel and the world into believing that he alone is the only Messiah they will ever receive. Both the Old and New Testaments shall be twisted to fit their claims; John 16:7-8, Revelation 1:16-18, 12 being perfect examples. Indeed the 'falling away' from the true Faith has already begun, as prophesied for this age. Through some very interesting uses of subliminal tactics and false histories, many today are ready for, and are already accepting, the teachings of devils and doctrines of demons plaguing the media and educational networks, making New Age beliefs and former Church heresies appear as normal, to be accepted, while at the same time making Christ appear as a mere man (and they will have some very interesting ways of doing just that, judging from what certain television documentaries on Christ and the Bible are already stating). A very dangerous propaganda and disinfomration campaign is being released into the world at this time, and the architects of such manipulation are succeeding in their efforts at eroding both traditional and spiritual precepts despite America's seemingly conservative moral values (which is actually causing a backlash and a greater tolerance toward liberalism worldwide, namely in Europe) leaving the door open for occult influences to leave their mark in nearly every form of media promoting these very European, Monarchial, and even heretical quasi-religious ideas of late.

    Understand that Antichrist does not know who he is as yet, although he is getting glimpses of his inescapable destiny, he cannot know what the finality of his choices are until a point in time of no return. He himself will be deceived then possessed by Satan himself. Understand also that the age of Antichrist will not openly appear at first to be an age of rampant evil, atheism, or even Satanism at the initial onset of his reign, as many think. On the contrary, all will be seemingly orderly and 'religious' at the time during his new reign as King. The world will be given a new religion, new morality, even a new history (which seemingly will explain all those things we today call ancient mysteries.) It will accept these things outright, seeing the former ways, namely that of Christianity, has obviously "failed." A faith based program is exactly what the Antichrist, even moreso, the False Prophet will endorse for the nations if they are finally to put down their weapons of destruction and ascend together into mankind's "next step of evolution," which is to be a spiritual one. Seeing as how the New Age belief system has already incorporated all of the world's (mostly pagan) religions into one melting pot of slurred synchreticism, it is safe to say that the religion of Antichrist will draw largely from its successes when re-creating the world upon new lines.

    The world is indeed going thru a softening up process even now, yet after the 2012 Cataclysm, all will move forward very quickly toward a belief closer to ancient Druidism more than anything else. After the reconstruction timeframe shortly to follow after 2012, and during those first years of the Tribulation, the world will be actually at peace, new thoughts and ideas will flourish as the world comes together in unity (the actual New World Order) and this will become the basis for that new age of reason and its world belief system. Harmony and peace will be the order of the day while old fundamentalist ideas of the past (i.e. traditional Christianity) will be something not tolerated while Paganism, Gnosticism, Celtic, and more liberalized views of 'christianity' shall meet the druidic sorcery for a new age; creating for itself a new Church that will take root in a hurting world greatly weakened after a global disaster. Since at that time it will be said that Christ was just a man, with false evidence backing it up, and more than anything else, since he never returned to earth immediately after a great Catalyst (the false Armageddon), it will appear that Christianity was all a lie. As the destructive catalyst shakes the very foundation of the physical world, a world devoid of the dominate 2,000 year old religion and its God will certainly create a catalyst for change. Enter Satan.

    REVELATION 17:8 The (Spirit of the) Beast shall ascend out of the Abyss and goeth 'into Perdition'.
    DANIEL 11:23 For he shall come up [ascend] and become strong with a small people.

    Many think this to mean he will rise admidst a small nation and its people just as Christ rose in Bethlehem, a small city within a small nation, Israel, or it may denote the small number of people connected to him, his version of 12 disciples, perhaps the prophesied ten kings who are later given power by him to govern the ten kingdoms of earth at that time - yet I foresee this to be an altogether different interpretation. His rising amidst a small number of people will be in secret. There exists many secret occult Orders and societies, small in number, many of which no one has ever heard of (as they are far more secretive than Freemasonry or any other named secret society) and it is these Satanic organizations with no name who have waited millennia for this one event, to finally see their ancient God and 'forgotten father' take on flesh and become a man, a King who will restore Satan to his former spiritual rank and position as the ancient Sun God, Lucifer. As Satan takes over and possesses the mind and body of this man completely, he will then elevate himself to the level of God, for just as God's Spirit dwelled within the man Christ who worshipped His Father as God, so Satan's spirit shall dwell in his man, Antichrist, who will worship a God of Forces. As the Beast ascends to power, the darkest of all magick masked as light will be his nefarious education and thereby, make him strong.
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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    This small numbered occult order is therefore comprised of the most wicked and powerful of occult Satanists fully aware of Satan's overall plan (and who the Antichrist is and will be). It will be their task to foster the young King into every aspect of Occult wisdom, much like how the prophet Merlin mentored his young apprentice in the ways of Celtic Druidism, so too will there be a mentoring process for William during the time of earth's reconstruction period, after 2012. The strong Druid influence in Satanism and how its beliefs will be used to create a new world religion, speaks to the Celtic Druids being that small membered order. It was the Druids who first paved the way for Lucifer's return in the form of a Chosen One, long before the mystery schools, Priory of Sion, Knights Templar, or Tamar. It was they who first prepared for a King to lead their kind by a plan of mock resurrection, meaning, a King who once lived in the form of a man that embodied their Sun-God, Pha-RA-on (Satan), and would return to finally destroy his most ancient enemy, although as Scripture states, he will only arrive after that which prohibits him, is removed and taken out of the way.

    All throughout history was this 'great work' taken to be the work of each succeeding generation until the last generation which shall see his return as King. The nine Templars were formed by the Priory to carry out the work at the time of the Crusades, yet always keeping well hidden in esoteria the ancient Druidic secret and true purpose to their schemes. After them it was the Freemasons who carried on the work, setting up a Temple in London in 1717 as if to mark 300 years which they would have to complete their goal. Therefore, this Sun-King of the rebel Angel reborn would already have all this as a foundation to stand upon to more easily go about and establish every remaining work of destruction for his ancient father, Lucifer, 'the King that was' (as stated in Revelation 17:8) and is even now only awaiting upon God's timing, the great catalyst to befell the earth allowing for this Man of Sin to be revealed. The year 2012 itself is to see a major transforming and paradigm shift in the world's mindset pertaining to Jesus Christ, the poor mortal man" eroded to the point of common mortality, thereby less deified and more humanized, ultimately becoming of little real importance other than his so-called Messianic Bloodline, which ironically gives power not to Him in the eyes of this current generation, but to 'another Messiah' coming whom they will accept. (And it will be one single event which causes this great defection and falling away from the Christian faith, after which, all of Christianity will be thought of as a religious pariah). As seen above, it is prophesied that many Christians fall away from their faith in great numbers just before the rise of the Beast, which will give way to a great and unparalleled religious void in the world, a void all too quickly replaced by new age sorcery, magick, and the arcane, expediantly ushering mankind into another 'Golden Age' out of which arises a mythic hero, a King reborn, and yet the world have been well readied for his arrival.

    DANIEL 7:25 And he shall speak great words against God, and shall wear out the Saints of the Most High God, and think to change times and laws; and they shall be given into his hand for three and a half years.

    Antichrist will change the times, meaning he will do away with the present Gregorian based "Christian calendar" which places Christ as central to its markings of years, holidays, etc., and in its place reinstate a pre-Christian (pagan) calendar which makes observances only to ancient Pagan Holy days and its lesser known Satanic celebrations. Many New Agers already have it that the year following 2012 should be recognized as the 'year zero,' signifying to the world a new beginning hence the term 'New Age.' I would imagine that October 31st and Samhain will certainly remain, although December 25th would change from being Christ's day of birth to being the birth of the Sun God instead, such as the Roman Sun God is celebrated, called Mithra's Day. The Luciferian symbolic Sun Solstice worship of June 21st would certainly hold more significance than any other for obvious reasons. Since the Jesus Christ of Scripture are in every way to be eventually rooted out of the New Age utopian society to come, Christ is even now Paganized to the point He becomes Lucifer, the lifegiving Solar Diety of the ancient world. They will also have you believe the Holy Cross itself is a Solar symbol, a thought shared by Freemasonry and its own warped interpretation of the cross. So again, this subtle manipulation is all done to 'make Christ appear pagan' so they might infuse Satanism, Druidism, Masonry and its solar cultish beliefs upon all, even Christians, yet moreover because Sun Worship will be the paramount religion of Antichrist (explained later). In addition to him changing the times, the Antichrist will also change Biblical statutes and laws into new laws and ordinances based on Western Occultism mixed with Kabbalistic mysticism, in effect, twisting the Torah and Tenach to fit his own claims of being their Messiah while breaking down the very fabric that remains of Judaism into one more fitting of a New Age synchretic belief system (to more easily destroy them in the future). At the midpoint of the Tribulation, forty-two months after his negotiating peace for Israel, his making a cease of the daily sacrifices which will have been reinstated at that time for Temple worship services, will be seen as blasphemy against God. What he does next will certainly shake their belief of him being Messiah as the spirit within him begins to reveal its true nature.

    The world, and specifically Israel, has allowed one man to rule completely disregarding every prophet, prophecy, and even the Word of God itself. Even history has shown so many times in the past that any ruler given such power invariably becomes corrupt at some point, yet what controls this one is something much more than mere human greed or any other human desire, for he seeks only wonton death and destruction of the human race. It has always been Satan who worked through the 'antichrist spirit' which has invaded many spiritual offices serving man's carnal needs in times past, yet it will be Satan's final assault on man and God which seeks its total annihilation, deceiving those who would leave themselves open to his blandishments, manipulating every event to achieve his aims. Forty-two months into the reign of Antichrist, Satan will have so completely possessed the man who becomes Antichrist that any former trace of the former Prince will have been completely erased by that point, and he will no likely be in control of either his mind or his body at that time. The Scriptures inform us that the Antichrist will have a fierce countenance, which again speaks to his mind and body being completely taken over by the insanity of the Devil himself, an ancient evil so far removed from the understanding of modern man that we cannot begin to contemplate or measure its corrupting depth of innate wickedness.

    Satan, in his great hatred and knowing that his time is short, shall seek to destroy the nation of Israel with great fury. At this time, many Jews will have finally been persuaded by God's great signs and especially by the words of his Two Witnesses and exploits of the 144,000, to the point where they believe Christ to be their Messiah, and not Antichrist. The Two Witnesses (who many believe to be Moses and Elijah) will lead many Jews into faith in Christ, and at the end of their work, as they stand on the steps guarding the rebuilt Jerusalem Temple from the Beast's great European armies, the Antichrist arrives to destroy them, yet 3.5 days later, they shall arise on their feet and be taken up to God in the sight of many, causing even more Jews to believe. Satan now knows he must destroy all remaining Jews who remain indifferent to Christ, and so shall he be allowed to do, yet the greater number of those newly saved in Christ shall be protected as God sends the Archangel Michael ("wings of a great eagle") to spirit the Jewish believers away from the Gentile controlled cities of Israel, into an outline area (which some say is Petra, a stone fortress in Jordon) and there protects them for the remaining 3.5 years of Antichrist's rule. The religious Jews of Israel that remain in Jerusalem and other areas controlled by his European army shall finally realize what they have unleashed and chosen as their Messiah and they will ultimately revolt against him, yet it is only then they finally understand just who they've given the 'honor of the Kingdom' to, but by then it will have become much too late.

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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    The casting down of the Stars and Host / Power given unto the Ten Kings
    DANIEL 8:10 The [Little] Horn, (young King) waxed great, even to the host of Heaven; and he cast down some of the Host and of the Stars to the ground and trampled upon them. / This Scripture is most curious as the Antichrist (being Satan in the flesh) whose true destructive power is finally unleashed, even has the power to kill Angelic Saints (or Holy Angels), as the Greek word used for Star and Host in that context actually translates to mean Angelic host in the original texts [see also how the word 'stars' is used to mean Angels in Isaiah 14:13 and Revelation 12:9]. Similar to this, as the Antichrist is casting down the Angelic forces of God, he seems to rise admidst his own chosen band of warrior Angels (demonic beings) which Revelation 17:12 and Daniel 7:24 decribes as being "10 kings" or knights. Reading Daniel 7:20 brings up an interesting vision and contains much relevance here, as the Antichrist is seen as being "more stout than his fellows" meaning he is swarthy in appearance when compared to his companions who are likely the aforementioned ten kings. This says much about who and what these ten kings will be as well as of their appearance when compared to the possessed Antichrist whose only other Biblical description is that of having a 'fierce countenance.' Genesis chapter six describes giants rising up in Noah's time, being the offspring of fallen Watchers (called the Nephilim) who took among for themselves the daughters of man. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown." [See also Nephilim art at Rosslyn Chapel.] Again, when a comparison is made of certain Old Testament prophetic Scriptures with New Testament ones, we can glean more information and develop a broader picture of will occur. Comparing Genesis six to Matthew 24:37 which states that "As the days of Noah were, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be," or in other words, the things that were taking place at the time of Noah will also be taking place just before the Lord's return must also include the demonic offspring of fallen Angels arriving once again to tempt the world into sin and to beget the renown hero's for a new Golden Age.

    So the ten Kings ruling with the Beast are likely picked from a hybrid race of immortals and possibly made his 'Knights' overseeing global affairs, under the Antichrist's authority, representing him throughout ten different regions of the globe. Perhaps they are also made Kings over the ten false tribes of Israel at that time. It is known that from what's written in the occult and in Scripture, that there are already Demonic Kings who exist in the underworld even now. Revelation 9:11 makes clear '...they had a king over them, which is the Angel of the Abyss, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon' (the Destroyer)' so it may well be ten demonic beings which reign with the Beast for a duration of his seven year rule. Pre-Flood Atlantis was governed by Ten Kings over Ten Regions. "ten districts...ruled by ten kings." - 167:200 "...The ten kingdoms of Atlantis are perpetuated in all the ancient traditions. 'In the number given by the Bible where the Antediluvian patriarchs we have the first instance of a striking agreement with the traditions of various nations. Other nations, to whatever epoch they carry back their ancestors...are constant to the sacred number of ten...In Chaldea, Perosus numerates ten Antediluvian kings whose fabulous reign extended to thousands of years. The legends of the Iranian race commence with the reign of ten Peisdadien (Poseidon?) kings...In India we meet with the nine Brahmadikas, who, with Brahma, their founder, make ten, and who are called the Ten Petris, or Fathers. The Chinese count ten emperors, partaking of the divine nature, before the dawn of historical time. The Germans believed in the ten ancestors of Odin, and the Arabs in the ten mythical kings of the Adites.' (Lenormant and Chevallier, 'Anc. Hist. of the East,' vol. i., p. 13.)" - 635:26-7

    The Antichrist will enter the rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem and claim to be God
    2 THESSALONIANS 2:3-4 The Son of Perdition who fights against God...sits in the Temple of God claiming that he is GOD. / Once Antichrist sends forth his united European armies (out of the countries making up his false 'Ten Lost Tribes') to trodden the Holy City of Jerusalem underfoot (until the times of these Gentiles be fulfilled) and destroy the surviving Israeli forces that stood to protect Jerusalem, Satan's power will then be at its absolute height, having accomplished all of his ancient desires through his 'begotten son' who brought the entire world back to him one more. This Antichrist then mockingly rides into the city on a white horse making his way toward the Eastern Gate set aside for the Messiah, he next kills the Two Witnesses who protected the Temple and the the Door of Light leading to the Holy of Holies. Satan opens the doors and sits upon the earthly equivalent of God's Throne and with this, the Great Work and the work of the occult in general has finally been accomplished, as he takes the Throne placed there in the 'sides of the north' having crushed both fleshly and Angelic forces alike, places himself above even the Angels of God, and finally achieving every one of his five ancient I Wills as the Antichrist/Satan he then announces himself to be Jehovah God (the great 'I AM') [Lucifer, now as King claims to be God 'I AM', and evokes five I Wills. King-Will-I-Am-5 (King William V).] Even so, God has already determined the next event and outcome.

    How art thou fallen from Heaven, O Lucifer, Sun of the Morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, you which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart: I WILL ascend into Heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the Stars of God. I WILL sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the north. I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds. I WILL be like God - Yet thou shalt be brought down to Hell, even to the sides of the pit.
    Isaiah 14:12-15

    Armageddon and Christ's Return, it thoroughly explains itself depicting the fates of those who followed the Antichrist, I would add one interesting note however. Daniel 11:44 shows us something that has only recently come into being as a partial fulfillment. From that single Scripture we see that after Antichrist has fully secured Jerusalem unto himself, news out of the North and East trouble him. Why? Because Russia and China will have had enough of this despotic western "Messiah" running the world by that point and seek out to destroy him, knowing that to not make an attempt at killing him with force means the entire earth would eventually be destroyed by his hand. Now the interesting connection, recently Russia and China have participated in unprecedented joint war exercises as to streamline both their armies in the event of any future aggression. In other words, Russia and China will fight together as allies in any future war. Therefore, what the prophecy of Daniel Chapters 9,11-12, Zechariah Chapters 12 & 14, cross referenced with Revelation 16:16 are telling us is that when when Antichrist hears news coming out of the North and out of the East of an obvious invasion plot against him, he becomes enraged and leads all to gather upon the plains of Megiddo for the final conflict to take place at Jerusalem (where Antichrist resides in the rebuilt Temple). Once the armies besiege Jerusalem from every side round about to destroy it, the skies open up and blinding light falls upon them as Christ returns and sets foot upon the Mount of Olives, destroying all who follow the Beast or war against Jerusalem. The Beast and his Prophet are then captured and thrown into Hell, while those believers who remain, the saints from Heaven, and every Angel shall rejoice in God's power and victory through Christ over Satan. Victory over all death and sin is fully made manifest as all wickedness is put down, and peace shall reign for 1,000 years as Christ is crowned King of this world and recognized as Messiah. After the 1,000 years we see a final test, God the Father's judgement of every soul, and after these things shall Zion return to earth as New Jerusalem and both God the Father and His Son, with all the Angels shall dwell with the eternal spirits of man forever upon the New Earth.

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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Oh I get it...... your secretly a christian.
    All this time you've been masquerading as a new age commentator
    all you wanted to do was become like Pat Robertson.
    All hail the new Pat.

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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    not that i want to get into this great debate!?but s h i t is goin down and somethin is happenin!?all i know is.......get ready if you feel the need!?or NOT!?hehe!!no joke here!!feel the force and go for the good if you can!?help us all LUKE!!(interject laser sounds here!)life is FUN! till the DEVIL says RUN!and you go......OK!?hehe!!
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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack1968
    So what's your point? Revelation? Come on whoever wrote that was one crazy dude. I wish I had a dollar for everytime the world was supposed to end. I thought the world was supposed to end in the year 2000? Remember all that bull? This world will end when our sun burns itself out which will be in about 5 billion more years, give or take a few hundred million.
    If we are talking about *our world* rather than *our* planetary system ,it could just be a lot earlier.
    A very large meteorite did immense damage to a remote part of Russia earlier this century. The evidence is there ,this was not some remote event in time.
    Then of course if all higher forms of life were wiped out evolution could start
    out all over again .I wonder what the result might be?
    The theory that a lightening strike might have started life in the primeval ocean soup always intrigues me.
    It takes a jolt of electrical energy to start the development of a foetus in vitrio for example.
    Another curiosity is that sperm and ova can be cooled to to cryogenic temperatures and still not only survive ,but be revived and utilised.
    This seems to blur the the bounderies between chemisty and biology.
    Bertrand Russell is worth studying for his thoughts in general in this area.
    Did you know that live recordings exist of some of his most important speeches?

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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Another View:

    By Jon Meacham
    Updated: 11:53 a.m. ET March 12, 2006

    March 20, 2006 issue - In New Orleans to preach to 1,000 clergy gathered at the First Bap*tist Church there—his first sermon in eight months—the Rev. Billy Gra*ham toured the hard-hit city last week. Afterward, the 87 year-old Graham, who has al*so just published a new book, “The Journey: How to Live by Faith in an Uncertain World,” spoke with NEWSWEEK’s Jon Meacham by telephone. Edited excerpts:

    This is your first trip to the coast after Katrina. What are your impressions?
    This is the greatest disaster that I have ever seen, and I’ve seen many, all over the world. Mile after mile after mile, and not a house standing, not a thing that has been left un*touched by Katrina. It’s over*whelming to me. After my first tour, in fact, I was so emotion*al that I could not even talk to my wife for a while.

    What do you tell people who ask how a loving God could let something like this happen?
    Well, I spoke yesterday to the clergy and I asked myself why, and I told them don’t know why. There is no way I can know. I think of Job, who suf*fered the loss of everything—seven sons and three daugh*ters, all of his cattle, all of his sheep and his flocks, every*thing gone. He couldn’t help but ask why, but he didn’t find the answer immediately, and he really never had the answer at the end.

    God came back and restored to him all these things, but the cause of the thing in his life was not God, it was the Devil. I didn’t mention that yesterday, because I don’t think this is the
    place to talk about Satan and the Devil, because I don’t know. The Devil might have had nothing to do with this; I don’t know. But God has al*lowed it, and there is a purpose that we won’t know maybe for years to come.

    People are always struggling with the question of evil in a universe that many believe to be created and governed by a God whose central instinct is sup*posed to be love. Do you believe that there is a personification of evil at work in the world, con*tending against that God?

    … Well, the Scripture teaches that there is a devil, and his name is Satan, which means “destroyer.” He’s an accuser; he accuses us to God, and we are told that the victory over him has come through the cross. When Jesus died on the cross, he was not only dying for our sins but he was dying to destroy the power and the works of the Devil. We don’t see that destruction yet. We are living in a period that Jesus predicted would be a very serious and difficult time, and as we approach the end of the age, it is going to get worse and worse. We see it on every hand today. But at the end of it, it’s going to be the coming of Christ, and that’s the hope that we really have …

    I was born at the end of World War I and then came World War II, which was even worse. It’s been one thing after another, through natural dis*asters, and men fighting men, the rise of communism, the rise of Nazism, and that all came in my short lifetime.

    I don’t see much improve*ment in man’s heart. The whole thing is in man’s heart: his desire, his greed, his lust, his pride, his ego. All of these things meshed together bring about sometimes a world war and sometimes a small war, but wars are going on every*where, even in families. It’s a personal thing with each of us.

    And in your world view, the answer to those problems is through the Gospel.

    Yes, absolutely. There is no other answer. But the Gospel that we talk about is good news to the individual that his own sins are forgiven … beyond that, national and in*ternational peace will come, I believe, when Jesus comes as the Messiah.

    When do you think that will be?
    I have no idea. Jesus told us not to try to set dates. And we are not to set a date, but he gave us signs to look for, and it seems to me that nearly all of them are being fulfilled right now. Maybe that’s been true throughout his*tory, but it’s certainly true today.

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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    Umm Its only March 13, So is this an advance issue?
    This Billy Graham stuff is just silly, Scripture... Jesus told us to do such & such
    Its doesnt help. Billy Graham is a relic of the past.
    Hurricanes are natural phenomena they happen in between Latitudes 15- 45? I think this is a guess. But there is a hurricane zone. So wouldnt it make sense if you choose to live in a hurricane zone to be aware of it and to take precautions with the building of houses and situating of cities.

    Obviously when New Orleans was built knowledge of hurricanes zones was probably non existent. But we know now and it should be the responsiblity of the residents of a city to ensure that public money is spent on hurricane proofing, by electing officials who will do such work. And I am sure that this will happen because of this disaster. Or it should and everyone in the country should help their efforts for better infrastructure.
    But because of corruption, moral and monetary, who Knows?

    Anyway solar eclipses as being signs of the return of King Arthur, for fcuk's sake.
    This is just rubbish. Beside the fact that probably 95% of the worlds population has no idea who King Arthur was. Looking at the sky and saying that this cloud formation or that astronomical event signifies this or that is as dumb and delusional as thinking god talks to you.

    Seek professional medical help if you think this.
    I dont care how eloquent the authors prose is, how many supporting links he give's, he's crazy.

    Worldwide the problem is the same the institutions that over time have come to dominate public life are failing to address the problems we face in this age. They trot out their tired dogmas and kneejerk solutions that fail at the first hurdle. Looking back to another time, or looking at the sky for signs isnt going to help either.

    Perhaps we need to grow up, and solve our own problems.
    Then instead of placing too much emphasis on success maybe we should contemplate a little more, the beauty around us. A bit hard to do in a city I guess...... or if you are starving and in poverty...... surely those problems deserve elevation to humanity's prime concern, not winning unwinnable wars or converting people to one thought-based belief system.

    And edgar cayce was another who was soft in the head Mu/Lemuria Atlantis
    whatever, nothing survived if they did exist so its just fodder for silly speculation. He should have stuck to helping sick people.
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    Re: March 29, 2006: Solar Eclipse

    The religious leaders have long used natural events as fear tactics.

    Remember 2000, wasn't that suppose to be the end of the world...all sorts of bad things happen???

    Just more of the same.

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