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    Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    I posted this in "interent scams" and guess I should post it here since its an investment program.I would like to know if anyone has heard of KisNtel.Its an investment program. Im new on here and not sure if I can post the link so I wont.They claim to earn you an UnGodly amount of money in 90 days on about 10 different payment options starting at like $100 on up.Im not accusing or pointing fingers,rather just want some input if anyone is familiar with this.I did sign up but havent invested yet.They do have a forum and you have to be voted in.Our earnings goes through 10 different steps before we get paid.Any input would be appreciaited before I invest or dont invest. thanks.

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    You'd be better off putting your money in a paper shredder. At least you'd know where to find it.

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    Yea and then a scammer would find my shred of money and tape it back together and spend it! ha!

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    KIGE/Kisntel is registered in the name of Michael Williams who lives in South Carolina, United States.

    Here is the website address http://kisntelinvestorgroupexchange.com/

    You will have noticed that the English throughout the website is atrocious. There is a clue in itself. A multimillion dollar company and they can't get their spelling and grammar correct. Look at their website dispassionately and you can see how amateurish the layout is and how little effort has been put into graphics and typefaces. And all hosted by free hosting companies.

    Note the name on the website with a slight change. Williams obviously couldn’t resist using his own name on his website with this minor change “Michael Williamson” this following text is copied from the KIGE website.

    ‘I was shocked and stunned to hear how everyone acted in our Conference Call last night on Saturday, March 4 - 2006. South-Eastern State Representative, Michael Williamson became the host once again since Henry McMicheals wife was in a severe auto accident. She lost her right lung and is in serious condition so he couldn?t attend the call.’

    Here are the details of the registered owner of the domain name - note its start date of October 2005:-

    MICHAEL WILLIAMS
    8404 Deerwood Dr
    North Charleston, SC 29406-9712
    (843) 797-1223

    KisNTel Investor Group Exchange

    8404 Deerwood Dr
    North Charleston, South Carolina 29406
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: KISNTELINVESTORGROUPEXCHANGE.COM
    Created on: 04-Oct-05
    Expires on: 04-Oct-06
    Last Updated on: 05-Oct-05

    Administrative Contact:
    Williams, Michael kisntelinvestorgroupexchange@mailbling.com
    KisNTel Investor Group Exchange
    8404 Deerwood Dr
    North Charleston, South Carolina 29406
    United States
    18435135415

    Technical Contact:
    Williams, Michael kisntelinvestorgroupexchange@mailbling.com
    KisNTel Investor Group Exchange
    8404 Deerwood Dr
    North Charleston, South Carolina 29406
    United States
    18435135415

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS.PULSEINTERNET.CO.UK
    NS2.PULSEINTERNET.CO.UK


    He also uses these other variations of his name.

    M V JR WILLIAMS
    MICHAEL H WILLIAMS SR
    Michael J Williams

    The registered address at 8404 Deerwood Dr is a residential address. Residential properties in that part of SC are valued at around $170,000. I would have hoped that such a big company would have an office. Again this following piece of text is taken from their website. I have underlined the important bit!!

    'Our Mailing Address & Phone Number is available to you once our new website is up. You can write to us at our corporate office, send your payment by Money Order and more. We DO NOT accept visitors at our corporate office - it is highly guarded and monitored by our security team personnel.'

    They also list a contact fax number for KIGE which is based in Canada for some unknown reason. Here it is 514-656-4411
    The fax number is a Montreal code and is registered to a company called Videotron Telecom.

    KIGE/Williams are in the middle of redesigning the website so some of the links may be down. Here is the main link again
    http://kisntelinvestorgroupexchange.com/

    Notice Williams uses "mailbling.com" the free email service - as do three other KIGE supposed 'boardmembers'

    Here is the link to the Boardmembers.
    http://kisntelinvestorgroupexchange....tom.html6.html

    All the other 'boardmembers' use free email accounts such as Yahoo. Do you really think that a multimillion dollar empire would use free mailing accounts?

    Try finding any info out about any of the boardmembers on Google. Surely 'Prince Edward Albercottin' who owns diamond mines would have lots of hits on google! The truth is, he doesn’t actually exist except in Mr. Williams own deluded head.

    Did some searching on the net and found that Michael Williams has been advertising KIGE under his own name as of last December 2005. Check out this link.

    http://www.sweetcaribbean.com/viewad...19253045100127

    Here too - he has been advertising some other program - this dates from March 2005. Try clicking on the offer link in his ad - its been removed for violations.

    http://www.phobose.com/smclassifieds...ail&adid=12888

    More of his classified ads here,

    http://www.phobose.com/smclassifieds...ams&memid=1957

    Also found these details about Michael Williams on white pages.

    http://www.whitepages.com/10583/sear...e=843-797-1223

    Also found this on google. The link doesn’t actually open as Williams has had his Freeweb account closed. But it does show that in this instance he was claiming you could make $10,000 in 2 hours. If you check the KIGE program it is based on a 90 day investment. That’s 90 business days, which equates to around 18 weeks. So how can you make $10,000 in two hours. I believe they have a $10 referral program. You would need to refer 1000 people in 2 hours to make $10,000.

    Ad from Google.

    $10000 In 2 Hours! •
    All payments will be made to: Kisntel Investor Group ... Michael H. Williams Sr. c/o KisN'Tel Investor Group. 8404 Deerwood Drive ...
    www.freewebs.com/10000email/actnow.htm - 9k - Supplemental Result -


    Overall, does this sound like the workings of a business that has been around for years, is worth billions, is building hotels and casinos around the world?!

    The reason there is very little about his scam on google is that it has only been going since October last year.

    They claim millions of members, over 3 million I believe? It would have to be the most successful company on the planet, bigger growth than Microsoft yet no information can be found out about them anywhere on the net apart from on HYIP forums and discussion groups. And even that is scarce.

    No body has been paid yet because you are supposedly paid after 90 business days. That’s 18 weeks. Probably didn’t get anybody to sign up and deposit money until December 2005. So don’t expect complaints and scam reports to really get going until April 2006.

    There it is on a plate. The most obvious scam I've seen on the net in the last 10 years.

    Pratchett

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    If you have "joined" this company or KIGE Investments, and you have been scammed, please contact Sgt. James Walley of the North Charleston Police Department's White Collar Crime Unit at 843-740-2867 or jwalley@northcharleston.org.

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    I am Sergeant James Walley of the North Charleston, South Carolina Police Department's Fraud Unit in USA. If you have been the victim of a scam with KIGE Investments or Kisntel Investments, please contact me at 843-740-2867 or by e-mail at jwalley@northcharleston.org.

    Thanks

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    International Financial Services Commission

    International Financial Services Commission,
    New Administration Building,
    Belmopan,
    Belize, C. A.

    18 August 2006

    WARNING NOTICE

    KIGE INVESTMENTS LPC

    It has come to the notice of the International Financial Services Commission of Belize (IFSC) that an entity “KIGE INVESTMENTS LPC” is purporting to be registered in Belize. No such company is located or licensed in Belize and the Belize address given at its website www.kisntelinvestorgroupexchange.com is false.

    This is a major fraud. All persons are asked to take note and exercise caution.

    GIAN C. GANDHI
    DIRECTOR GENERAL

  8. #8

    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    Yes, I have been paid from KIGE and still involved with their program. In fact, my picture and story was use on their website.

    I get hundreds of emails yet I have a life to live so I don't answer them all. I don't sit in front of a computer like you all ... Ha, Ha!!

    If you followed the instructions - you might have gotten paid. I have received my funds within 101 days first time, 83 days second time & 87 days my third time.

    Personal information is not to be posted and my cousin who works for the local law enforcement even backs that statement up ... so even this website should be closed down for letting this information be breech.

    KIGE is already building restaurants in various countries and you are calling them a SCAM?? If they were ... why would they be in front of the world and helping other countries out including the USA?

    KIGE never said they were registered in Belize. They have an office there under the company parent name and still operating. Local Authorities were already at the company and couldn't find anything wrong with their audits & paperwork. They even have offices in Cayman Islands & China so start looking all over the place.

    Sounds like to me ... everyone is trying to cause problems for this company.

    As far as Sgt. James Walley, we did our investigation as well ... do you really exist in North Charleston, SC? We always get a story someone don't know anything about this ...

    Pratchett ... I told you once in another forum and I'll tell you again ... if you can't show your real name, you must be a chicken to the real world. KIGE will catch you and put you in the ground if they FEDS don't catch you first ... see you in HELL!! (Not!)

    To everyone else reads this ... you can get the real story from me since I am a real person and got paid from KIGE. Questions? Write to me and I'll respond when I can ... Thank you.

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    Hey there bharriswashere - creator of my favorite scam,

    I seriously wondered if it was worth replying to your nonsense post - purporting to be an ordinary paid member. How come you speak just like the perpetrator of this scam? Same poor english and grammar throughout.

    If this is such a big multimillion dollar company, why are you here defending it in such a poor and unprepared fashion.

    And tell me something else - who those guys huh? Take a look at these links. Looks like KIGE employees have been moonlighting with some other companies.

    If you're going to post fake photographs of fake employees on your website, then maybe best you don't steal them from some other website.


    http://www.indianadec.com/Page1.html

    http://www.musiccdfundraiser.com/testimonials.php


    pratchett

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    Hey there bharriswashere,

    You mention 'real name' as if Barbara Harris is YOUR real name. We know that this is not the case. You are obviously male and NOT female. Just as obvious is that you are the very same person that has created this scam - no other person could possibly use the same combination of words, poor english and grammar.
    Whatever happened to your fake testimonial page? It's not available anymore on your website.
    How come you are using stock or stolen photographs on your website, supposedly of board members.
    How come for a 'multimillion dollar company' you can't even design a decent website?
    How come 'you have been paid three times' and nobody else has been paid a cent?

    Maybe you take us for fools huh?
    You have no answers to any of the questions posed. Have you seen all the proof of your scam? It is so plain and obvious yet all you do is threaten those that would question you.

    pratchett

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    My favorite scam KIGE or Kisntel are now operating a NEW SCAM. They call themselves SEASHORE JEWEL TRADING. You can see the link from the KIGE updates page here.

    http://www.kigeinvestments.net/updates

    This is the direct link to the Seashore scam

    http://seashorejeweltradingllc.com/

    They claim on the Kige site that they are not affiliated to Seashore - what a joke - just check out all the similarities - same crap spelling and grammar, same graphics, same web design service etc.

    Pratchett

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    1.] KIGE INVESTMENTS:
    Private, Registration: KIGEINVESTMENTS.NET@domainsbyproxy.com
    Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd.
    Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale
    Arizona 85260
    United States
    (480) 624-2599

    2.] SEASHORE JEWEL TRADING:
    Private, Registration: SEASHOREJEWELTRADINGLLC.COM@domainsbyproxy.com
    Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd.
    Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale
    Arizona 85260
    United States
    (480) 624-2599 Phone
    (480) 624-2599 Fax

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    KIGE IP address - 69.7.164.173
    Seashore Jewel Trading IP address - 69.7.164.173

    HOST for both the above - web3.bitsiteservice.com

    Looks like Seashore have had their egold accounts blocked last time I looked at their site. See their news and updates section. About time too.
    When are these guys gonna be locked up?!!!!! :mad:

    http://seashorejeweltradingllc.com/up_date_news

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    Seashore Jewel Trading SCAM!!

    I have copied this from TalkGold forum. This is the response from The Seashore Jewel Trading SCAM, some guy calling himself 'JVincent52'

    He is repsonding to my posts - check out his spelling and grammar. Any similarities with KIGE? Yup!!
    Here it is, pretty awful s**t.

    'I will answer to this ... first of all, I am the Operations Manager to SJT Trading - PTO and placed my ad of KIGE Website for $15K. Just because I placed my ad on their website - you are claiming I am KIGE? Get your facts straight ... you don't know jack S*%#& of me nor I know about you. I care less about KIGE ... at least I got paid from them last month under plan #4. But I joined on March 3rd so I waited to get paid.

    I have done very well with my business and I will not some VIP Investor tell me how to run my business or noe I will tell you to run your business. You are just stating your opinion like I am stating mine.

    The owner of SJT Trading has bought shares and stocks in certain companies on the NYSE and does pay out accordingly on how these companies produces in trades everyday.

    Our program is SIMPLE. If the market is UP and surpasses our percentage in each area ... DOW JONES, NASDAQ and S&P - you receive the full amount of your investment. If DOWN, you receive half of your money.

    So, you can't tell me I am this company ... KIGE Investments and receive altered information. HYIP's don't work ... all those programs runs from a script and whoever wrote those should be banned from the internet. There are legitimate companies on the world and at least - I will tell you my honest opinion whether you like it or not.

    Just like these forums, they are just your opinion. You can run your mouth and I can run mine. But, who's will survive and which one is speaking the truth? I have nothing to hide ...

    You are telling me Sanyo, United Airlines, Jimmy Carter, Kellogg, J.P. Morgon, William Clinton, Forbes and others are telling you a lie when they have a PTO company or covered by this?

    Write to me at JVincent52@seashorejeweltradingllc.net to get all the real facts on us. You can't rely on gossip alone because that's what this is ... all gossip.'

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    Re: Anyone Know About KisNtel?

    Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Guys. I am Alf smith and I own pulseinternet.co.uk ........Yes I hosted this site and yes I deleted them also.
    Thats about all I can tell you ...... if i can help anyone here then email me at pulseinternet@gmail.com
    Regards
    Alfie

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