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  1. #1
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    Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    After reading some of the Threads on here I noticed and became aware of this scm going on. Do these people have nothing better to do in Africa, Europe, asia wherever they are, here is the third email I received from them, the first one was "DEMANDING" the product. So after I read that I told him I demanded he treat me like an american and stop talking to me like that, needless to say he stopped and this one started. The email is as follows, all I want to do is sell my bike!!!!!!!!! :( One more thing they never offered ME more money. they actually offered me less than what I was asking


    Hi Robert,
    Thanks for responding back on time.its really my
    choice.Its what i ve been trying to buy for the last 2
    weeks.presently i cant come and see it but am buying it on
    your honest word that its fine and as you said it is.
    Importantly i want you to pls send one or two pics if
    available and if not its ok.all i need is your assurance that its
    mine now.I will call you after getting your response.
    I am offering $1150, so please dont respond to anybody
    again on this bike anymore. whoever shows interest,
    firmly tell him/her its sold.
    For you to know how prepared I was about this,you can talk
    to the shipping agent [email protected]-
    They will come for it at your location as soon as
    you got paid and bargain is settled.
    the payment is with a certified check which i believe
    is the best way. so convenient for me and if you are
    ok with that, get back to me today so that i could get
    the payment ready and on its way to you asap.
    I am really glad about this so pls dont make me lose.
    Pls respond back today. Thanks for the favor
    Last edited by Sateba; 08-12-2005 at 09:52 AM. Reason: forgot some info.

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    Re: They don't give up

    I don't mean to be laughing....it's just hard not to...hahaha!!!!

    I haven't had any experiences w/anything like this, so I can't help you there.
    But I just HAVE to comment....man, I really think he wants this bike!! haha!!


    I kinda feel sorry for the guy(in a small way) because I really think his culture is maybe so different than ours that he just dosen't know any better.
    He remindes me of one of my kids fighting over candy..I mean HE WANTS this bike. The word POSESSIVE comes to mind!


    This part really cracked me up!....I like how HE'S telling YOU the way to conduct your business!! Too funny!!
    **********************************************
    I am offering $1150, so please dont respond to anybody
    again on this bike anymore. whoever shows interest,
    firmly tell him/her its sold.
    ************************************************


    It would make me not want to sell to him....but I'm almost afraid for you if you don't!! :eek:

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    Re: They don't give up

    I just saw this new thread on HERE.... it just reminded me of your letter!!


    It was posted by: DIDOKRS ....the thread is " help me please" or something like that.

    Anyway, here's what it says:

    ************************************************** *****
    Hello

    I'm from Bulgaria. I wanted to buy a motorcycle through internet, I was intending to pay by PayPal, but after I did read about this scams I'm a little bit scared.
    I know nothing about the paypal payments cause I don't have an account (and I've never shopped by internet), I'll use my friend parents one
    Would somebody explain to me how the payments are made? What makes seller keep his promise and send me the bike? And if you know- how the delivery to Europe could be done?

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    Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Hi all,

    There's a very simple way to get those damn scammers offline.

    The shipping company they offer is really their own booked web-domain (most likely left unpaid), the hosting companies tend to co-operate as they want to keep their good name - also in case they knew about the scam - and allowed it to continue on their server - they are also guilty.

    Please post in this thread all the URL's (web-addresses) of the shipping companies the scammers offer to use - I'd enjoy doing the rest :D

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Why? As soon as they've suckered enough people to fall for their "act", the site goes defunct, or is already pulled by their webhost and domain are yanked. It's be crazy if the site(s) last more than a month at most. You'd just have a list of domains that wont helpe anyone cause all they would need to do is get another one, and repeat their scams again.

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Ok, but this means that forever we'll be emailing the hosts and getting them offline.... just for them to start fresh elsewhere.....

    What do you think is a better option - maybe just let them stay at that spot and find a way to warn everyone ?

    we need some good resources - also typing like 10 emails to hosts per day is not a solution (I do have a life) and some of them don't even respond.

    :cool: :confused:

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Quote Originally Posted by LGT
    Ok, but this means that forever we'll be emailing the hosts and getting them offline
    Again, why? why would you be forever emailing the hosts? did you not notice that I said in my reply that these sties are usually DEFUNCT within a couple of weeks? and not more than a month?




    .... just for them to start fresh elsewhere.....
    Such is the life of scammer. you can't predict where they are going to show up and under what new fake company name.

    What do you think is a better option - maybe just let them stay at that spot and find a way to warn everyone ?
    KEEP on informing JOE PUBLIC of how to spot these SCAMS in the first place? Maybe targeting the consumer and Educating them would be time worth spent than trying to chase down scammers with 1,000,000 different identities and websites.



    we need some good resources - also typing like 10 emails to hosts per day is not a solution (I do have a life) and some of them don't even respond.

    :cool: :confused:
    of course they dont respond. that's not their business to do so. Resources? How about how to spot a scam?

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Here's one for you: www.european-trans.com
    This guy told me he was going to ship my car through them; funny, the whois on this site shows it was created the day after I contacted the seller. What a dope!

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Ya - this website has some mean bad English on it.... Also note that scammers have discovered Flash....

    **** - I guess our best bet IS to educate the consumer - people can be so naive it's shocking - doesn't mean they deserve to loose their hard-earned money.

    On the other hand maybe they should be educated on many things - also legal companies and governments run their scams just as well !! We just bought a license for Norton through the US web-site, if you buy the same thing in EU you get charged 20% more.... how about that ?

    The EU trading agreements are also one big scam.... I just went to look for a pair of "levi's" last week, the European model looks nothing like the US one - much higher on the waiste and made of a different material the price was 96 E, my neighbor is now in the US for work and he found the exact same Levi's - only the original shape and material for 26 $.

    I can't help being sick of lies and scams - no matter by who.... Sorry I had to steam this out.... :eek:

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Well its the same here;

    I can go to Japan and buy a Honda NSX for only $60,000
    If i buy one here, it'll be $90,000

    Why the difference in prices? Because of crap between us and japan as far as trading goes.

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizywyg
    KEEP on informing JOE PUBLIC of how to spot these SCAMS in the first place? Maybe targeting the consumer and Educating them would be time worth spent than trying to chase down scammers with 1,000,000 different identities and websites.
    You took the words right out of my mouth!

    While yes, it can "slow them down" somewhat to report the email addrees or site that they are using, but they will just get a new one the next day.

    I once had victims suggest that we have a running log of the names and email address that the scammers use . . . again, that would just be a never ending log of names that they could change daily . . . not much of a point.

    Spreading the word about this scam and educating the general public is the best way we have to fight this scam.

    Shawn
    There is strength in numbers
    www.ScamVictimsUnited.com

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Just to give you an idea on how hard it would to keep such a list, an examination of the emails collected in my bulk email folder at yahoo for 30 days:

    1047 messages
    How many were nigerian? : 890
    That's 890 different EMAIL addresses alone. in one months time. And exactly how many scammers are out there? Thousands. Times that 890 by those thousands.

    Now, the fact that these email addresses are deactivated within a day or two, eliminates any chance of "following' any trail.

    its pointless to "track" websites and email addresses.

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizywyg
    its pointless to "track" websites and email addresses.
    You and I know that, but when someone gets scammed that is always one of the first things that they want to try and do. It is just so hard for victims to understand and accept at first that there is no way to track down the actual people who are running these scams.

    Shawn Mosch
    www.ScamVictimsUnited.com

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    ^^ at least not joe public. It would take the power of the FBI (and even then that would be useless) fi the perprs are in countries where our laws have not effect on them.

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    Re: Collect the URL's of the "shipping companies"

    if you find one site then you can copy and paste some of the text into google surrounded by "" and pick up some of their other sites, because each group creates many scam sites using the same templates

    but then you realise what a big job it will be and probably not useful as said earlier in the thread.

    for instance if we check http://www.european-trans.com/ as quoted earlier in the text, we get quite a few google hits

    we get http://www.seurinternacional.com which looks like a bona fide site where they stole the text and images from to make their scammer sites.

    and then we have the active scammer sites

    http://cb-trans.com/ (active)
    http://www.international-sc.com/ (active)
    http://www.global-shipp.com/ (active)
    http://www.delivery-realtime.com/ (active)
    http://cardelionutz.uv.ro/ (active)
    http://www.shipp-auto.net (active)

    and the inactive where they have been shut down or abandoned.

    http://www.dvdmarksman.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.ups-5-days.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.eu-express-delivery.com (inactive)
    http://www.skystarexpress.biz/ (inactive)
    http://www.euro-skytrans.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.international-delivery-express.net/ (inactive)
    http://www.eu2worldwidelivery.com (inactive)
    http://airseaexpress.t35.com (inactive)
    http://euro-ship.t35.com (inactive)
    http://online-skystarexpress.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.eu-express-courier.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.airandocean.com/ (inactive)
    http://www.eu2worldwidelivery.com (inactive)
    http://euro-ship.t35.com (inactive)

    kinda gives you an idea though how many people this particular group scammed and that vehicle sale escrow scam is a BIG PROBLEM especially when the vehicles are high value items.

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    Speedyshipment.com

    Watch out to this one. This website is a complete fraud. Even though it looks professionnal and claims to be existed since 2001, this website has been created a month ago.

    I wanted to buy a Nissan 350 Z roadster. Market price around 32000 euros. the car was priced at 8600 euros. All I needed to do was to send 30 % of the total amount to speedyshipment, a third part, using western union. Then Speedyshipment would deliver the car to my home. I live in Norway and the car is located in England.

    Instead, I called speedyshipment and explained them I would rather come to England, check out the car and if I was satisfied, I would pay cash the 8600 euros.
    At first, it seems it was not a problem at all. But after they sent me the link to make the 30% advance and I denied it, they called me back to tell me they would prefer me to do the 30% advance transfer and they would deliver the car for testing.

    as I was explaining them that I would never do such a thing because western union is absolutely not secure, the guy from the supposed company speedyshipment, just hang up the phone. I have sent them a mail, tried to call them back. I never got through.

    I am now convinced that I would have never seen my 2600 euros advcance, neither the car.
    Watch out! the seller of the car was Detlef Wick , and he is apparently a power seller on Ebay in Germany.

    Well you would tell me that 8600 euros for such a car (from 2004, 30000 km), I was dreaming. The add was on http://www.autoscout24.be/fr-be/search.asp.

    So watch out to this www.speedyshipment.com.

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