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    Isn't it strange that...

    an omniscient, omnipotent being such as God would choose to make his miracles known to men at a time where there is no way to document such instances other than word of mouth? sure it can also be...
  2. Re: World Financial Group - Avoid Them Like The Pl

    Go read the WFG group thread in the Investments section to see why this company is problematic. Let me recap:

    Some people claim it is a scam and obviously those who believe in the company are...
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    Re: are you mad at your mlm company or your self?

    Either you are Tim Sales, or you are a blatant plagiarizer. Considering that it is highly unlikely for Tim to make a new account on scam.com just to reiterate his golf argument, I'm going with the...
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    Re: 5linx

    when someone is so incompetent as to not being able to distinguish between a valid internet link from a locally accessible port on their own pc, I would seriously think twice about getting into...
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    Re: Lifevantage protandim

    lmao. I love you bodhi, in a strictly non-gay way
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    Re: Witnesses to the Lord God.

    if he understood what circular reasoning was, he wouldn't be as fanatic as he is
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    Re: God or Nature

    referring to this...



    Seems to be your automatic defense to claim that someone has wrongly twisted your words to make new meaning, but you see the problem is your poor choice of words. In...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    I point out your logical fallacy of argument from ignorance and you come and prove that you are indeed employing that fallacy?

    do you not see how it is a fallacy to claim that... Just because...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    I hope you realize why it's so hard for anyone here to take you seriously. that last comment you made seems to sum up your viewpoints... as others have said, this is the logical fallacy of absence of...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    if only we all had our personal surrogates through which we can continue posting after being banned...gotta give it to you kerry, you are pretty loyal to your soulmate
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    Re: Atheism is a lie

    nobody is this stupid...troll alert
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    circular argument much?

    not being able to certify your dreams does not mean they are incorrect, you are right about that. but it also does not make your dreams true or a fact. get that through...
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    Re: God or Nature

    Lord_jag, so many people have wasted their time with this juvenile illiterate and psychopath. I think it's time to stop giving him attention
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    listen man, i'm not here to fight with you. I merely point out inconsistencies in your claims and arguments. you've claimed you used to be a professor and a grad student yet you make the same...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    a grad student/professor who can't even distinguish between your/you're TWICE in the same sentence? I'm starting to get the feeling that YOU ARE a troll...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    i'm sure god will be proud of you, condemning your peers to hell
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    Re: Controlled Growth in MLM - Is is Possible?

    true, but as soon as your expenses start piling up with nothing to show for all your effort..."you didn't have what it takes" or "you didn't do it right or work hard enough". This simple brainwashing...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    now the nasty comes out..now the aggressive and violent nature inherent in the fundy thought process rears its ugly head.
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    First of all, I can't imagine you even being in grad school, let alone winning debates with this twisted logic of yours. I think you mentioned you were a professor once? Maybe you are flattering...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    well, I'll repeat again that nobody really knows as of now but I can only assume it was due to his dishonest nature. It's possible he was judged to be dishonest based on MANY pieces of evidence by...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    sarcastically making it my viewpoint that he should be banned for a minor detail IS a strawman...don't know what to say if you can't see that
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    wow this must be your specialty. Masterfully turning discussions in circles. No one knows for sure why he was banned, but I'm asserting it was because of his dishonest nature in arguments...non...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    I'm not surprised you would throw another strawman out there.

    Either that or you misunderstood. I thought I made myself clear how it was a TRIVIAL matter. My point in bringing that up was that if...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    Other viewpoints are absolutely necessary, and welcome. It's the fact that those viewpoints are held religiously, even in light of revealing information, that it becomes counter productive.

    It was...
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    Re: Where is "Vitacraps" Chris Doyle?

    Chris had nothing to offer the forum other than fallacious, single track minded defense for certain MLMs even when presented with valid arguments revealing the dishonest nature of the business. Very...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    You don't get it. it does count as an excuse when it's about god. because I've committed myself into believing in the imaginary sky fairy, i've committed myself into claiming her benevolence anytime...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    you're wrong Lord_jag. It's not poor planning...you just don't know the mysterious ways that god operates (as far as things I can't explain or don't make sense to me)
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    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    are you really suggesting that willingly participating in a sexual preference is on par with being scarred for life by a grown man, being taken advantage of sexually against your will?

    The...
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    Re: Skinny Body Care

    If you believe an investment of your time and money in a venture where less than 5 percent make above minimum wage is prudent, by all means go for it!

    Like doc said, it's brand new...so of course...
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    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    on a lighter note... http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/536258/909829.jpg
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    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    the lord is ashamed to have brought your hatred into existence
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    Re: Skinny Body Care

    another mlm huh? I won't use the S word but you're better off putting your efforts into a min wage job. why won't people learn to stay away from mlm unless they're the owner of the company...and I...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    wow you are crazy. sure you consider yourself special or deviant, but you're not special. you think by deviating from the usual fundies here gives you an edge and that you have a better understanding...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    So he put a bandaid on someone's ear and all of a sudden he's a healer of amputees?
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    Re: Mona Vie

    lol there's will again using the iron clad "they do it too" rebuttal.

    Also, I'm starting to feel bad for Chris, he's reeally getting rammed hard from all directions. He probably thinks he's...
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    Re: Reporting Chris Doyle and Vitamark to the FDA

    Doesn't that mean it IS about the product? Like i've said before, if the product was actually something worthwhile, it could compete with your common grocery store/electronic store etc. But then why...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Believe me, I would say everything I just told you to your face (I would prefer it) but I'm sure it sounds tough and scrutinizing to say that I wouldn't. I'm not just looking for random fights here...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    I've read a few of your postings and it's clear you try to take a different approach from the usual crazies around here but ultimately put yourself on a moral pedestal. You're not better than...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    I don't need to go through your hundreds of posts to notice your tone in that small segment you provided us just on this page. I don't need to do my homework to know that you're ultimately employing...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Let's start with the first and most obvious fallacy...which is begging the question. It doesn't matter whether you assume that everyone here is an athiest. By you believing in something which is not...
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    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    It is your responsibility to provide proof of god's existence. especially considering that you assume the premise of her existence, skimming the waters of circular reasoning. I doubt lord jag...
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    Re: Reporting Chris Doyle and Vitamark to the FDA

    lol, thumbs up to that
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    Re: Southwestern Company a scam?

    I readily acknowledge that SOME recruits will have a good experience based on the fact that very few people are naturally inclined to be good salespeople and be less intimidated/effected by...
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    Re: Reporting Chris Doyle and Vitamark to the FDA

    truly pathetic recurring defense strategy you got going there. Over 99 percent of your responses to critiques of shady mlm practices, you respond in the same way a child would - "they're doing it...
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    Re: There are some clowns on here!

    figured he wouldn't respond to this and ignore it, hoping nobody focuses on his blatant lie and this thread just disappears....
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    Re: There are some clowns on here!

    You really never do admit when you're wrong do you?
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    Re: Reporting Chris Doyle and Vitamark to the FDA

    nice work bodhi. I had noo idea about those ridiculous testimonials. I can only shake my head in disgust after reading them. glad you're doing something about it
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    Re: Laugh at that F*****g MLMer

    wow...after watching 3 of these videos, it became pretty obvious that the people behind the product merely sought out any doctor willing to give a vague plug for health. They say nothing unique to...
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    Re: Laugh at that F*****g MLMer

    buff - while I do agree that there are many idiots in the MLM world, I believe the majority that are involved just don't have many options available to them and/or don't know any better.

    More than...
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    Re: Southwestern Company a scam?

    anti southwesterners - stop calling this a scam.
    pro southwesterners - stop focusing on. the word scam

    what southwestern is is a legal entity that takes advantage of its recruits while providing...
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