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  • 12-28-2010, 05:51 AM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
    Hey carlb I'm gonna ask and everyone should ask every thread your on with this:

    Why do you show Him such disrespect in refusing to recognize His true (names for the true God and the true name of His Son)
    For He has many names and the God of Pagans has many names.

    So, again He has a name, but you don't know it, am I getting this right grandpa, you don't know it or you don't respect it enough to use it.
    That's truly one of the reasons the tribes of Israel were cast out of the Covenant and He made a new one where we would need to use a name in order to get Salvation. One sacrifice for all. No more Sacrifices for forgiveness.

    We were given the most Highest of names that every Knee shall bow, and every tongue, confess Him as "ha-adon"

    So, carlb are you gonna use His name at that Time!?

    So, as a child who learned the truth you need to convince me otherwise as my grandpa, who is so much wiser then me and has a direct connect to #$%&^* (fill that in would YA!)
    Please provide proof of your mythical sky fairy.
  • 12-16-2010, 10:32 AM
    Sharky

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Hey carlb I'm gonna ask and everyone should ask every thread your on with this:

    Why do you show Him such disrespect in refusing to recognize His true (names for the true God and the true name of His Son)
    For He has many names and the God of Pagans has many names.

    So, again He has a name, but you don't know it, am I getting this right grandpa, you don't know it or you don't respect it enough to use it.
    That's truly one of the reasons the tribes of Israel were cast out of the Covenant and He made a new one where we would need to use a name in order to get Salvation. One sacrifice for all. No more Sacrifices for forgiveness.

    We were given the most Highest of names that every Knee shall bow, and every tongue, confess Him as "ha-adon"

    So, carlb are you gonna use His name at that Time!?

    So, as a child who learned the truth you need to convince me otherwise as my grandpa, who is so much wiser then me and has a direct connect to #$%&^* (fill that in would YA!)
  • 12-16-2010, 03:41 AM
    danrush1966

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    The right will be made wrong and the wrong shall be made right. Deviance shall be declared normal while faith, morals, values and traditions shall be declared illegal.

    So when will the left support pedophiles?

    Well, the elders or lawmakers of the time (and please note I didn't say god or the bible etc) didn't have the aid of good scientific facts that we do now.
    Wow, the APA was good scientific fact back in the 70's when they said homosexuality was normal and only a few years ago they declared pedophiles the same way.

    So that's an excuse to support sick sexual deviancy in public schools? Teach little bobby how to suck a dick?
  • 12-15-2010, 08:12 PM
    lexx

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ol Slow Poke View Post
    Well, the elders or lawmakers of the time (and please note I didn't say god or the bible etc) didn't have the aid of good scientific facts that we do now. Back then, being gay was seen as being "devient", whereas now we know that it is a make up of the brain (or something....hehe, I'm no scientist). Being gay is a birth given way of life, not a choice! Having said that, I hate gays as much as the next homophobic person, but to each their own!


    Cheers, Pokey
    born homo's just dont really fit the whole picture of a persons personalty development!? some gays are bi's and what about BORN AGAIN!? so it's possible to change at any age, but just not likely!? extremely unlikely in fact!? :freak3: : :spin2: :
  • 12-15-2010, 07:23 PM
    lexx

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by Once Upon a Time View Post
    Maybe we should follow the Bible word for word.

    How does your wife feel about having to spend five days a month outside the tent? Were you okay with watching your nieces and nephews of your divorced brother get split in half with a sword?

    Want more? There are all sorts of fun things in the Bible.
    yah and here's carl's message, got any daughters!? TRASH EM cause they are expendable, they're only WOMEN after all, a silly after thought that didn't pan out!?

    "I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes"......YAH BABY, come to PAPA......:cwm2: : :spin2: :
  • 12-15-2010, 06:56 PM
    lexx

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    i think dan's PROBLEM can be easily solved!? he can make the brave move of......"tradin places"!? you know, go hang out with homo's until he actually becomes 1!? then he can tell us for sure, if he is going to hell!? and maybe more, he can tell us why!? because the words with which he condemns, will come back to seal his fate!? then he can say with wisdom, i was wrong!? to condemn anyone is to condemn thyself!? :judges: :cwm2: :spin2: :
  • 12-15-2010, 10:07 AM
    Once Upon a Time

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Maybe we should follow the Bible word for word.

    How does your wife feel about having to spend five days a month outside the tent? Were you okay with watching your nieces and nephews of your divorced brother get split in half with a sword?

    Want more? There are all sorts of fun things in the Bible.
  • 12-15-2010, 08:49 AM
    Sharky

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Now everybody ask;

    Will he accept you?

    answer:

    You'll never know while your alive will you?

    You can only hope, for you have'nt crossed over.

    Who's to say, that these Gay's don't have the same Hope?

    Wouldn't it be funny that since Christ died once, for all the world, and forgave all our past and present sins on that Cross and once we believe we are free from sin, could possibly mean that being Gay was on that cross with Him and as was all sin and hence forgiven of this type of sin?

    Or do you think that your God is limited in His Will for Us his creation.

    This is said but true.
    My brother and sister where dying of AIDS not from being gay.
    They had a Medical Plan that Canceled them and the Churches I pleaded to gave nothing and they had nothing but severe death caused by not being able to afford drugs or care in hospitals.
    Who came to their rescue?
    No-body but Us.
    Then we heard from the Gay Mens.
    Organization and they took care of them to their dignified death
    They are on the Quilt also.

    So who's to say are the ones who without a doubt where doing God's work.

    These two were'nt GAY. But they were excepted cause they had a source of LOVE and caring and is this not what GOD wants?

    Not heavy on obeying by a Law as belief with LOVE. Then you get Grace.
  • 12-15-2010, 08:22 AM
    spovat

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by danrush1966 View Post
    Under the logic of the left, pedophiles should have rights too since their actions were declared a natural part of their brain development by the same American organization the APA that declared homosexuals normal. Every gay rights group in America points to the 1973 APA study results as proof of their right to equality and tollerence.

    And why not since f***ags allow NAMBLA to march in their parades in the United States? NAMBLA and GLBT support the same goals, teaching homo***ology in public schools, endorsing gay sex among children and promoting the gay lifestyle in public schools.

    So how can the left justify one sick sexual perversion as normal and deny others the same rights when they all agree and work towards the same goals?
    are you really suggesting that willingly participating in a sexual preference is on par with being scarred for life by a grown man, being taken advantage of sexually against your will?

    The scientific studies on pedophiles are just that - studies to gain a better understanding. In no way would any moral person suggest that they should have equal rights in society when they've caused or are a risk to cause great harm to others.
  • 12-15-2010, 08:03 AM
    danrush1966

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Amazing that you would see it as hypocrisy when I'm not the one condemning people to hell. You are the one doing so.
    Under the logic of the left, pedophiles should have rights too since their actions were declared a natural part of their brain development by the same American organization the APA that declared homosexuals normal. Every gay rights group in America points to the 1973 APA study results as proof of their right to equality and tollerence.

    And why not since f***ags allow NAMBLA to march in their parades in the United States? NAMBLA and GLBT support the same goals, teaching homo***ology in public schools, endorsing gay sex among children and promoting the gay lifestyle in public schools.

    So how can the left justify one sick sexual perversion as normal and deny others the same rights when they all agree and work towards the same goals?
  • 12-15-2010, 02:47 AM
    Sharky

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Put this on the religion site it is not political.

    No one can ever rationalize Yahuah's (god) way .
    It is beyond us.

    I was in prayer the other night and started to think afterwards about some of the clues of what was before Noah.

    If you hold true to the thought that the earth is only 5700 yrs Old, then we are being very stupid indeed.

    You must read the book of Enoch the 7th from Adam.
    There is much there that will really open your eyes.

    Not withstanding this gay issue, you need to check out what I will be posting about what I feel was given to me as a light for my blind footsteps.

    Back to gayness.

    I will quote the scriptures for this one does apply over all that has been discussed here.

    I shall check everyday to see if you post this to religion site.

    Now here it is;

    "Judge not, lest you be Judged !"

    Hope you all got that !

    Remember your a sinner to and you think like a sinner, no matter if you believe your not, but you are!

    So why should any of you be concerned with Gays.

    Thing for one minute about your life.

    Have you ever wished Harm on anyone?

    Have you never told a Lie?

    Have you never fudged your income tax?

    Have you never stolen (even a stick of gum or towel from an Inn)?

    Have you never glanced upon another and desired them?

    Have you never coveted what another has? (keeping up with the Jones)

    Have you never judged another (for whatever)?

    Did Yahusha (jesus) deny the thief and murderer nailed to the cross Paradise ?

    Do you think that there could of been a chance that he to was Gay also?

    As most if not all so-called christians say "What would Jesus Do?"

    There's your answer if you have the "eyes to see and ears to hear".

    Are you blind and deaf?

    Then be smart enough to to see it.

    No one is Righteous, no not one!
  • 12-15-2010, 01:21 AM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?



    This one always made me laugh.
  • 12-14-2010, 06:06 PM
    spovat

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    on a lighter note...
  • 12-14-2010, 05:08 PM
    spovat

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by danrush1966 View Post
    I would say that Jesus would love these people, in so much that he would try to be friend and comforter.

    However, Jesus as the bible states did not come on the earth to defy or change the law and if you read your bible it clearly states what it thinks of those who "sleep with beasts of the fields and man lay with man and woman lay with woman.

    Jesus would have shown compassion, invited them to dinner, healed their afflictions, ministered to their needs but in the end he would have told gay people to abandon their sick deviant way of life for they would not be welcomed into his father's kingdom.

    I'm pretty sure by reading the bible that God or Jesus would have not been favorable of the many churches in America that have deleted the references to homosexuality as an abomination or done their own complete re-write to normify sodomy, deviance, sexual perversions or Brokeback Mountain horse sex.

    Of course we shall hear from the usual circus of left wing revisionism.
    the lord is ashamed to have brought your hatred into existence
  • 12-14-2010, 09:20 AM
    rodin

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    Quote Originally Posted by danrush1966 View Post
    I would say that Jesus would love these people, in so much that he would try to be friend and comforter.

    However, Jesus as the bible states did not come on the earth to defy or change the law and if you read your bible it clearly states what it thinks of those who "sleep with beasts of the fields and man lay with man and woman lay with woman.

    Jesus would have shown compassion, invited them to dinner, healed their afflictions, ministered to their needs but in the end he would have told gay people to abandon their sick deviant way of life for they would not be welcomed into his father's kingdom.

    I'm pretty sure by reading the bible that God or Jesus would have not been favorable of the many churches in America that have deleted the references to homosexuality as an abomination or done their own complete re-write to normify sodomy, deviance, sexual perversions or Brokeback Mountain horse sex.

    Of course we shall hear from the usual circus of left wing revisionism.
    I think you are bang on there

    You can't trust the Bible IMO but you can put your trust in Jesus
  • 12-14-2010, 07:28 AM
    Sharky

    Re: Would Jesus accept gays?

    "For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of El Shaddi"

    "None are righteous no not one"

    Listen to me all of you, your not righteous in any sense.

    You are no different in His eyes then anyone else.

    All people, should worry about their own Salvation and not judge any for what they choose to be (different then you).

    Yahuah (EL) showed us many examples of disobeying, did He not?

    I know that in His eyes these who follow their own desires do so for they find it fits into what pleases them.

    Has not all men shown the world that they will do their will and not the fathers?

    Only He knows the names written in the Book of Life, right?

    To me that means he already knows all the names of all who have been written, and again I need to stress "Who have been chosen".

    We all do not know if we are on that list, yes, no one knows only our Creator.

    I feel this way after achieving death and being revived is this:

    There is a Creator, call Him what you will.
    As being such, (and speaking as an artist and parent) I would never want my creation to be torn up and thrown away or child in agony.

    The Creator saw His creation being thrown asunder and wished not that he gave Man a two way street, but that's the only way to see who travels in the right direction towards Him or away.

    I feel that His love was so great that he made it so simple for us to escape.

    That we had a need, again to do as we please and incorporated our systems of beliefs to please the whole and not our creator's system of simple Faith.

    Who, here, is really concerned with others Salvation when you, need to "Work on your Own"

    How do you do that?

    You'll find it in the book of James:

    "How can man say he Loves a God he can't see and not Love His brothers or sisters he does see?"

    El Shaddi is LOVE and if we don't have Love then we don't have El Shaddi.

    So, you have to show all (gays and evil men) LOVE.

    If what you show them doesn't turn them then there is no recourse for them.

    They have to see Yahusha (jesus) in our everyday lives and actions.

    Do not show them distain for that is the stumbling block that would get in the way of them seeing Yahusha in you.

    I know what is written and it did come from Him.

    But, if my child was Gay it would not turn me away from Him or Her.
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