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  • 01-01-2011, 10:44 PM
    Lord_jag

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Read it and weep. Science will never prove the universe came form natural causes.

    You people just can't handle defeat.
    OH NO!!! That makes 6 times you've repeated that without so much as a shred of an argument to back it up. Only 9,994 times more and it'll be real!

    Oh woe is me.
  • 01-01-2011, 07:21 PM
    Retired Marine

    Norcross Ga. is corrupt

    It is fear many people have. Being falsely accused of a crime is terrifying, especially if the prosecutor says they know you did not commit the crime against you, and will not drop charges against you. After all, how do you prove something you did not do? In television and movies the protagonist is always vindicated, but this is real life after all. According to Ohio State University, as many, as 10,000 people are wrongly convicted each year in our justice system. Just how could this happen? Further more, how could it happen to me, Louis Gibson, a retired United States Marine? Now confined to a wheelchair with multiple injuries sustain while serving in the United States Marine Corp..

    False accusations can happen for a variety of reasons. One is the reliance some investigators place on witnesses. Contrary to popular belief, some witness testimony is extremely unreliable. Especially when in my case it involves two former sales representatives, Mathew S. McCloy, and Holly Madison. Both worked for my company in Norcross, GA,, now closed due to negative press, Redshield Entertainment llc. Norcross Police Officer Eric Butynski badge number 122, who I have had several personal verbal arguments with since I established Redshield Entertainment in Norcross GA.. Officer Butynski was not my Christmas list. Even less liked when his unlawful investigation on December 22, 2009 led to a warrant charging me with False Report of a Crime.(warrant number 09w-19949) In addition, they all, filled in information they did not know conjuring up coherent dialogue. Officer Butynski pass the malicious report as legitimate.

    Next is something that would change my view of the legal system in Georgia. WSB News ran a story live that Redshield Entertainment hired and did not pay employees. I did my best by phone to explain as a re-seller of Clearwire mobile Internet service commissions were paid to my Redshield Entertainment in sixty days. Clearwire pays Redshield Entertainment then my sales representative get commissions earned. A reporter contacted by Mathew S. McCloy and Holly Madison knowingly lied on air, resulting in Clearwire revoking my agreement due to bad press. Norcross Police Department began harassment daily. Two weeks prior Mathew and I, at my place of business, got mail rejecting activation of my utilities due to incomplete application. As I opened the envelope I saw my company check and three other documents with my signature forged. Mathew confirmed Holly had attempted to put utilities in Redshield Entertainment's name. Holly had not come in that day so I called her to find out why, and who authorized her to sign my name. She also produced a memo on my behalf authorizing herself and signed my signature. She shouted at me over the phone and quit. I then instructed Mathew to file a complaint for me, due to my personal issues with Officer Butynski, this would prove to be not one of my brightest decisions. Norcross Detective Beverly Parnell badge number 120 with Officer Butynski influenced her and her report stated, "Warrants were not obtained on Mrs. Maddison because of lack of information at the time of the report.", even with all the documentation presented and Mathew's statement that Holly had forged my signature. In less than two weeks from this filling I was charged with felony forgery in my False Report of a Crime warrant. If you are reading this you must be thinking, huh? Yes, yes, yes this is my whole case! This is Georgia legal system in full effect.

    As you can see, there are several factors working against me in this criminal case. Even though a person like myself can be innocent, like on television shows the police, prosecutor demonize the accused and definitely work against the defendant. An investigation that may be based on false evidence only made important by police officers bent on malicious motives taking the attention off the actual charge being brought. I now rely on Gibsonhardknox to broadcast the truth as I take legal precautions in this situation.

    LOUIS GIBSON

    My story:

    "ADAPT AND OVERCOME"

    In November 2009 Redshield Entertainment LLC and the reputation of its CEO Louis Gibson was attacked. Usually a fair reporting news channel, WSB News after being contacted by former sales rep and manager Mathew MccCloy, who claimed he had not been paid during the holiday season for working there, moved forward with the story without cross-verifying factual documentation.Gnawing relentlessly on Redshield's ankles, Linda Stauffer reported this story of 3 screaming angry sales representatives? not being paid for work one of which being Matt's roommate, in front of Redshield's newly established place of business in Alpharetta, GA.

    Following the negative media coverage, the license for Redshield to sell Clearwire mobile Internet, at the time its sole source of current revenue was revoked; dark tales were recounted about Redshield Entertainment and CEO Louis Gibson on the Internet; not to mention that he learned shortly thereafter that at the same time the same sales rep petitioned for the cessation of Redshield Entertainment and the Media coverage thereof, he also campaigned for the commencement of license to sell Clear Internet for his newly formed company, prior to Redshield's and Clearwire's dissolution and using the identical practices, methods, teachings and even staff of Redshield.

    Was it just good old competition? I guess except retired disabled marine Louis Gibson who currently sits in a wheelchair and has been diagnosed with PTSD as well as a host of other issues after serving now feels these additional scars, and a little over 1 year now feels he has just gotten the shaft. 1 year later, neither of the 2 companies is still in business selling Clear Internet and the same reps who demanded payment after 30 days of working for Redshield found out that there new CEO couldn't pay that quickly either because Clearwire's contractual agreement with all resellers pays out in a 60 day pay cycle. Not to mention that the news coverage allowed the prowess of the adversary to sway the public opinion of some in its favor. Let me explain.

    Reading of Redshield and its woes, viewing limited information online anyone could quickly pass judgement. As computers become increasingly more sophisticated so do in some cases Internet stone throwing anonymous sinners, some without even any direct knowledge of the matter in discussion. GOD seeing all, often many readers are noncommittal on subject matter, without additional sources of obtaining what they consider factual information, like a news source. The news report however gave the prowess of influencing the public opinion of some to the adversary, increasing Mr Gibson's woes to fighting in those cases, public opinion on this matter as well, a challenge he has self-described as at times like America's war in Iraq.

    The worse revelation to come was forthcoming just a little over last week. In the intricate details of this story, Louis was arrested on December 18, 2010 on false charges also birthed from this fiasco. The same sales rep, Matt who began selling under his new company name, after this news story aired went to the police department speaking of his allegations, the news video and its airing. He also had filed a police report of the grievance and its further related details. The police without further investigating issued a warrant for Louis Gibson's arrest. The charge was based on a check forged by another former staff member and the nonpayment of reps citing the news report as one of its references. Upon exiting the jail on bail almost 2 weeks later and after spending now his 6th Christmas away from those he loves; 5 being, 1 for each year while having served in the US armed forces and the 6th one birthed out of the events mentioned here, Louis Gibson now asks is there justice in America? Will WSB news even report a retraction? The attack on his small business must give Louis cold sweats at night and you would think that for a veteran striving to adapt back to civilian life after handling the casualties of war would have been enough... Please respond I would like to hear your thoughts he actual charge being brought. I now rely on the Gibsonhardknox to get my voice heard as I take legal precautions in this situation.
  • 01-01-2011, 06:53 PM
    Cnance

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_jag View Post
    Just because you can't understand basic observations doesn't make it stop existing.

    Hey now there's some good advice. Perhaps you should try applying it to your "Truth" derived from a fiction book and a dream?
    Read it and weep. Science will never prove the universe came form natural causes.

    You people just can't handle defeat.
  • 01-01-2011, 01:40 PM
    Lord_jag

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    It's a stand off. You have no evidence for the origin of the universe from natural causes and I have no evidence for God.
    Just because you can't understand basic observations doesn't make it stop existing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Don't boast until you have evidence.
    Hey now there's some good advice. Perhaps you should try applying it to your "Truth" derived from a fiction book and a dream?
  • 01-01-2011, 01:38 PM
    Lord_jag

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    \

    Obviously, you've never done it.

    Read it and weep. Science will never prove the universe came form natural causes.
    OH NO! that's like... 5 times you've said that.

    Only 9,995 more and it will be real!

    Let's hope science does it before you can repeat yourself enough times.
  • 01-01-2011, 10:12 AM
    Cnance

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by LogicallyYours View Post
    At what? What is it you can offer as evidence? Just one thing....
    It's a stand off. You have no evidence for the origin of the universe from natural causes and I have no evidence for God.

    Don't boast until you have evidence.
  • 01-01-2011, 03:34 AM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Try it some time, looking at the other side of an argument.
    At what? What is it you can offer as evidence? Just one thing....
  • 01-01-2011, 01:01 AM
    thistle

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Again, your stereotyping me. All of you atheist love to do that, it makes your arguments more reasonable. Where have I ever said I don't respect science. Every time I go to the doctor I have respect for science, every time I drive my automobile I have respect for science, etc. So you see I am not an ignoramus like you and Lord jag claim.
    You dont respect science - you dismiss it when it conflicts with your personal narrow religious beliefs. The fact you go to the doctor or drive a car shows that hypocrisy - you will dismiss certain science, where its ideological to you, and the science is not yet settled.

    Your & other religious people's list of things that were down to god recedes every single year. In 100 years, how many more things? In a thousand?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    I don't think you people will ever get it, but one more time here it is. My basic argument (read my postings) is that God created the universe from a flawless design. It was so good that there has been nothing left for him to do. Kind of like one of those Swiss watches that is guaranteed to last for ever, sorry now we have quartz watches that last forever. Well, you will say, how come things on earth are going south. Well, God's not responsible for human choices. Well, you will say, how dare he make life unfair. Well, if you read the Bible, you would recall the story of Adam and Eve. I believe that is the best account of what happened, except it happened during the time of the dinosaurs. What we are is not what God intended. We are bad outcome, etc.
    Lovely. But utterly utterly completely no shred of evidence for any of that. And despite what you say, because you dont understand it, the evidence there is suggests natural universe.
  • 12-31-2010, 06:43 PM
    Cnance

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_jag View Post
    That's hard to do without bursting out laughing that someone actually believes it.
    \

    Obviously, you've never done it.

    Read it and weep. Science will never prove the universe came form natural causes.
  • 12-31-2010, 03:52 PM
    Lord_jag

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Try it some time, looking at the other side of an argument.
    That's hard to do without bursting out laughing that someone actually believes it.
  • 12-31-2010, 03:51 PM
    Lord_jag

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Again, your stereotyping me. All of you atheist love to do that,
    HOLY HYPOCRITE BATMAN!

    That statement is the definition of hypocrisy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    it makes your arguments more reasonable.
    Sure it does.... not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Where have I ever said I don't respect science.
    Every time you come in with some ridiculous theory that has no basis in reality you SHOW how you have no respect for science.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Every time I go to the doctor I have respect for science, every time I drive my automobile I have respect for science, etc.
    And that lasts as long as you don't have your bible handy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    So you see I am not an ignoramus like you and Lord jag claim.
    Oh we can see all right... and we can also see your allergic to telling the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    I don't think you people will ever get it, but one more time here it is. My basic argument (read my postings) is that God created the universe from a flawless design. It was so good that there has been nothing left for him to do. Kind of like one of those Swiss watches that is guaranteed to last for ever, sorry now we have quartz watches that last forever. Well, you will say, how come things on earth are going south. Well, God's not responsible for human choices. Well, you will say, how dare he make life unfair. Well, if you read the Bible, you would recall the story of Adam and Eve. I believe that is the best account of what happened, except it happened during the time of the dinosaurs. What we are is not what God intended. We are bad outcome, etc.
    Oh... you're still a long way from the 10,000 required repetitions before it's real... keep at it.. if you say it enough times it might become real!
  • 12-31-2010, 12:07 PM
    Cnance

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by LogicallyYours View Post
    big sigh....
    Try it some time, looking at the other side of an argument.
  • 12-31-2010, 11:51 AM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Well, if you read the Bible, you would recall the story of Adam and Eve. I believe that is the best account of what happened, except it happened during the time of the dinosaurs.
    big sigh....
  • 12-31-2010, 10:35 AM
    Cnance

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by thistle View Post
    And, sorry, where do YOU get off claiming all scientific theories YOU dont like are necessarily "BS"?

    Who says? You? You admit youre not a scientist. Do you claim that cutting edge scientific theories in quantum physics or medical sciences are also BS, because you don't get them?

    No, of course not. They dont challenge your existing narrow religious beliefs. Sorry, scientific theories do not concern themselves with avoiding hurting theists feelings. Real scientists, theists many of them, will look at the evidence and not let their beliefs affect their judgement.

    Science cannot take the supernatural into account ... otherwise it would not be science. And we would be living in a much less advanced, and much more violent, society.
    Again, your stereotyping me. All of you atheist love to do that, it makes your arguments more reasonable. Where have I ever said I don't respect science. Every time I go to the doctor I have respect for science, every time I drive my automobile I have respect for science, etc. So you see I am not an ignoramus like you and Lord jag claim.

    I don't think you people will ever get it, but one more time here it is. My basic argument (read my postings) is that God created the universe from a flawless design. It was so good that there has been nothing left for him to do. Kind of like one of those Swiss watches that is guaranteed to last for ever, sorry now we have quartz watches that last forever. Well, you will say, how come things on earth are going south. Well, God's not responsible for human choices. Well, you will say, how dare he make life unfair. Well, if you read the Bible, you would recall the story of Adam and Eve. I believe that is the best account of what happened, except it happened during the time of the dinosaurs. What we are is not what God intended. We are bad outcome, etc.
  • 12-31-2010, 12:48 AM
    thistle

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance
    There is no natural cause explanation for the beginning of the universe, just a lot of BS theories like "multiple universe" and "there is no clear understanding of a beginning," and other BS arguments.
    And, sorry, where do YOU get off claiming all scientific theories YOU dont like are necessarily "BS"?

    Who says? You? You admit youre not a scientist. Do you claim that cutting edge scientific theories in quantum physics or medical sciences are also BS, because you dont get them?

    No, of course not. They dont challenge your existing narrow religious beliefs. Sorry, scientific theories do not concern themselves with avoiding hurting theists feelings. Real scientists, theists many of them, will look at the evidence and not let their beliefs affect their judgement.

    Science cannot take the supernatural into account ... otherwise it would not be science. And we would be living in a much less advanced, and much more violent, society.
  • 12-31-2010, 12:42 AM
    thistle

    Re: Why won't God heal amputee's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    Why don't you stick with the topic. All of you atheist simple go crazy, you can't handle a straight question or a straight answer.

    The issue is the origin of the universe, not whether or not I am student. We're all students. Isn't that right. We never stop learning, but that doesn't mean we're stupid.

    Do you mean I am not learning atheist propaganda? Actually, you have nothing to offer. There is no natural cause explanation for the beginning of the universe, just a lot of BS theories like "multiple universe" and "there is no clear understanding of a beginning," and other BS arguments.
    I think thats the third time youve replied to that single post by me. Each one different, each one making no real sense.

    Science is not atheist propaganda.

    • The scientific study of evolution, ie biology and changes in inherited traits of populations, is not atheist propaganda.
    • The scientific study of Abiogenesis, how life arises from inanimatematter through natural processes, is not atheist propaganda.
    Scientists with religious beliefs can and do work in all fields of science.

    The point is YOU keep trying to associate evolution with abiogenesis. Noone has ever claimed evolution explains the origin of life, just changes in living populations.

    Get it?
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