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  • 03-17-2006, 07:37 AM
    lexx

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    yes,the edgar cayce story is very intriging!?(i have never gone there)but just cause it was sensationalized as "SLEEPING" it would seem much more credible if just considered as deep meditation!?otherwise it would be more like hypnosis!?or sleep talkin!?hehe!!
  • 03-15-2006, 07:01 PM
    coontie

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Hehe yeah, he even wrote a whole book about it. I think it's called "The Twelfth Planet"
    Also I admit I don't know how to spell "twelfth" haha, damn confusing word if you ask me.
    In any circumstance, I am sure that Sitchin laughs heartily, all the way
    to the bank!

    However, there is something to MOST of his writing - what most of it
    is is plagarized from the Bible and other writings, then amplified and em-
    bellished upon. I have - attempted - to read several of his books but
    never gotten compltely through, nor, no more than probably 20 - 20
    pages at most.

    Also, Edgar Cacey; he is somewhat of prolific wirter; Sleeping
    Prophet. Interesting person. He comes from another time in our
    society. For his location and the mindset of his social surroundings
    he was a typical "product" of his time. I think he was from North
    Carolina or Kentucky. A lot of people there were superstitious
    and into the really strange religions like snake wrangling and some
    other practices.
    My mother was from Kentucky. She told me something about all of that,
    although she didn't indulge. She did tell me about all of the home medical
    treatment and doctoring and beliefs. In her time and before that, all
    of the people there didn't have doctors and hospitals and so on. They
    depended upon theirelves and they learned and were helped a lot by the
    American Indians there.
  • 03-14-2006, 02:32 AM
    lexx

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Hehe yeah, he even wrote a whole book about it. I think it's called "The Twelfth Planet"
    Also I admit I don't know how to spell "twelfth" haha, damn confusing word if you ask me.
    i personally woulda went for the 13th planet!?that way you could work in the bad luck angle!?could nail a certain friday somwhere sometime!?ya know!!the more i think about it!this is a really LUCRATIVE BUSINESS!!??hehe!!and yes!!i do mean FILTHY LUCRE!?is there a nother kind!?hehe!!just askin!?
  • 03-14-2006, 02:27 AM
    lexx

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Quertol
    So, how did we get here then? From Evolution? We all came from 1 single celled organism that evolved over billions of years??? WHy, that would be incestuous!!!
    you have to admit,it would seem that some people DID come from a single celled prodginy since they only exhibit a single celled brain!?i wont name names,just in case!?lexx!!.....just in case what!?......you know.........mother what's her name might be on the.......time of the........you know!?SSSHHH!!hehe!!
  • 03-14-2006, 02:22 AM
    lexx

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Hehe yeah, he even wrote a whole book about it. I think it's called "The Twelfth Planet"
    Also I admit I don't know how to spell "twelfth" haha, damn confusing word if you ask me.
    i dont know about the 12th(twelve fifths of southern pleasure?) planet but i do know about the COMETS!!after all,i saw the movie "life force!!".good luck on locating that 1 it's an oldy!and "forbidden planet" was interesting too!another oldy!how about..."the day the earth stood still"!!and "when worlds collide"!?but right now i'm enjoying re-runs of "farscape"!hehe!!
  • 03-14-2006, 02:12 AM
    lexx

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Synik
    Nothing is stranger than the truth.
    you mean......like jonah and the fishy!?hehe!!
  • 03-14-2006, 01:44 AM
    Synik

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by Quertol
    So, how did we get here then? From Evolution? We all came from 1 single celled organism that evolved over billions of years??? WHy, that would be incestuous!!!
    Nothing is stranger than the truth.
  • 03-14-2006, 01:26 AM
    SubJunk

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by coontie
    Yeah, Sitchin; I am not sure about this person. I think he picks up on other
    material from things on the planet that are emerging, or things reagrding
    ancient circumstances.

    I think he's taken the "Epoch of Gilgamesh" and made it into his: "The
    Lost Book of Enki." But not sure if he actually did this.

    If he would give some biblography and references to his material would
    help his credibility - nopt sure!

    The "icy planet" thing you mwntioned does sound REALLY far out!
    Hehe yeah, he even wrote a whole book about it. I think it's called "The Twelfth Planet"
    Also I admit I don't know how to spell "twelfth" haha, damn confusing word if you ask me.
  • 03-13-2006, 09:53 PM
    coontie

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    I stopped giving Sitchin any thought after he became convinced that the icy "planet" at the edge of our system is actually a spacecraft made by the aliens who seeded life on Earth.
    I'll have a look at those books, the first one you mentioned is available to download in PDF format so I'll have a read.
    Yeah, Sitchin; I am not sure about this person. I think he picks up on other
    material from things on the planet that are emerging, or things reagrding
    ancient circumstances.

    I think he's taken the "Epoch of Gilgamesh" and made it into his: "The
    Lost Book of Enki." But not sure if he actually did this.

    If he would give some biblography and references to his material would
    help his credibility - nopt sure!

    The "icy planet" thing you mwntioned does sound REALLY far out!
  • 03-13-2006, 08:24 AM
    SubJunk

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by coontie
    I don't know, maybe you would care to read: Genesis Of The Grail Kings"
    by Laurence Gardner, Fair Winds Press.

    Maybe you will. Let me know what you get out of this?

    Also, "The Epoch of Gilgamesh."
    I stopped giving Sitchin any thought after he became convinced that the icy "planet" at the edge of our system is actually a spacecraft made by the aliens who seeded life on Earth.
    I'll have a look at those books, the first one you mentioned is available to download in PDF format so I'll have a read.
  • 03-13-2006, 07:20 AM
    coontie

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by SubJunk
    Oh come on, Sitchin is a known hack. He just supports any crazy theory he can get his hands on.
    I don't know, maybe you would care to read: Genesis Of The Grail Kings"
    by Laurence Gardner, Fair Winds Press.

    Maybe you will. Let me know what you get out of this?

    Also, "The Epoch of Gilgamesh."
  • 03-13-2006, 06:25 AM
    SubJunk

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Oh come on, Sitchin is a known hack. He just supports any crazy theory he can get his hands on.
  • 03-13-2006, 05:12 AM
    StormyRay

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Perhaps this conference would be of interest to you.

    Ancient Mysteries: Heaven and Earth Reveal Hidden Treasures – presenters: Zecharia Sitchin, Adrian Gilbert, Christopher Dunn, John Van Auken, David Hatcher Childress, Maureen Clemmons, Ed.D., James Mullaney and more.

    One of our most exciting programs, combining the latest archaeological discoveries with concepts and perspectives of ancient cultures, bringing beauty, truth, and spirituality into better focus. Includes reunion for all A.R.E. Tour groups.

    Event Details
    Conference Date: 10/05-10/08/2006
    A.R.E. Headquarters
    Virginia Beach, VA

    Conference Name: Ancient Mysteries: Heaven and Earth Reveal Hidden Treasures - HQ061001
  • 03-13-2006, 04:18 AM
    coontie

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx
    very brilliant stuff!!buy more brillo pads!!(no! i'm serious!..i'm kiddin!?about what you ask!?)hehe!!but as to adam.......YOU are adam in gods eye!?i was told he only has one eye!?what do i know!?and in that "other" realm......hearing is all that is needed!?like when someone calls out your name in a strange environment(new place!?)!?also referred to commonly as attention!?so where was your attention before you heard your name!?some say it's a whisper!?hehe!!now as far as "time" being different......to us......i suppose you have NEVER experienced loss of time!?or maybe gain of time!?if not!?YOU LUCKY SOB!?minute here,minute there.....it all ads up!?or not!?to bad it dont ad up to eternity!?is that what you meant!?just askin!?question is........what the [email protected]#&* am i doin here!?...........OOPS!! i really meant.......are you askin!?for my children perish cause they dont know how to ASK!?science is good if science is FOR god!?dont take it FOR GRANTED!?OK!!take it for granted!!oh yeh!!.......what's granted!?is that like a "grant" from the gov or somethin!?free money to play with!?gotta love it!?plasma tv ,here i come!?hehe!!
    Have you been in the cow-pasture picking the little mushrooms again Lexx?
  • 03-13-2006, 04:17 AM
    coontie

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    Quote Originally Posted by StormyRay
    How Old is Humanity?

    When it comes to the question of how old humankind is, there are some problems with the standard answers that have been around for the past 200 years. First, each time explorer’s dig up another skeleton, the acceptable timeline has to be redrawn to allow for older and older remains. Second, explorers have found fossilized, manmade “marks” that are completely outside of any rational timeline. A good example of this is a hand print to Gen Rose limestone, which is only found in the Middle Cretaceous period, 110 million years ago! This is so impossible a dating that most scientists simply ignore it. Third, we are finding artifacts in which ancient humans are depicted doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment. We have also found artifacts depicting humans doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment. We have also found artifacts depicting humans interacting with dinosaurs (not the skeletons of dinosaurs, but actual, live, moving dinosaurs.) Of course, this is even more impossible that the 110-million-year-old hand print. Painted on a vase found in the remains of ancient Troy is an image of a woman offering a dinosaur food while a man shoots arrows at it. In Peru, over 300 burial stones found at ancient grave sites depict specific types of dinosaurs (Triceratops, Stegosaurus, and Pterosaurs) in full body form, not skeletons. Perhaps the most outlandish discovery was made by South African miners who found hundreds of carved spheres in a Precambrian deposit that dates back to no less than 2.8 billion years – yes, that is billion, with a “b”!! Of course, we believe that there was no intelligent life back then so these balls are a complete mystery.

    According to Cayce’s reading of the Akashic Records, humans, in pure energy form or spirit form, first came to this planet about 4.6 billion years ago. He says that it is recorded in the Book of Job, in the passage about the morning stars singing together as the foundations of the Earth are being established. But humans did not come into even the slightest three-dimenstional form until around 12-million years ago. If this is so, then how did the human hand print show up in a 110-million-year-old piece of -limestone?

    According to Cayce’s readings, the first quasi-human presence was on a continent in the Pacific Ocean called MU or Lemuria. At that time, human souls were manifesting as thought forms, not physical bodies. However, he says that many wayward souls pushed their minds and spirits into existing animal bodies. The next and more structured form came around 10 million years ago, also in Mu/Lemuria. This was still not a physical body as we know it. Cayce called these forms “root races,” meaning something akin to prototypes, experimental devices for coming out of the fourth dimension into the third with ability to function here. The first two root-race forms were in Mu/Lemuria. (It might be helpful for us to think of these as an astral “body” first and then an etheric “body.”)

    The third root-race form was the first truly physical body. However, even this body was not as dense as ours today, says Cayce. This third body form appeared on a continent in the Atlantic Ocean called Atlantis only 210,000 years ago. It was a hermaphroditic body, having both sexual forces within itself, making it able to conceive new bodies from itself. Around 106,000 years ago, the first separate male and female bodies were created. Cayce called this the “first Eden,” noting that it was in Poseidia, Atlantis.

    The Eden of the Bible was between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, which are in modern-day Iraq. The dating of this Eden is difficult, but some Cayce researchers have determined it to be sometime around 12,000 B.C. with Adam dying around 11,070 B.C. at the age of 930. Remember, the Bible story indicated that there were other humans on Earth during Adam and Eve’s time, because Cain, their only surviving son, finds a wife among these other people and leaves for the Land of Nod, east of Eden, which is modern-day Afghanistan.
    I have read all the post here. I fail to see any mention of Seth, the third
    Son? What about him?

    Also, it is emerging now that the Great Pyramid in Egypt is thousands of
    years older than originally thought. It predates the 'modern' ages of the
    Pharohic Dynasties.


    The flood at the time of Noah is now known to be a LOCAL event. The
    entire planet was NOT innudated, flooded with water as the impression is
    supposedly given in the Old Testament. Investigations to current times
    have indicated that there has been LOCAl isolated flooding AT VARIOUS
    TIMES at locations all over the planet, but not simultaneous and not
    entirely disaatorous, as in detroying entirely all life forms in the areas
    effected.

    At on time, some individuals sougth to prove the flooding theory by pointig
    out the seashell and other marine fossils in rocky strata at high mountain
    elevations. It is now know that tektonic plate movement and continential
    upheavel was responsible for this.

    In reading this as well, I find myself wondering, ever more, what is THIS
    that we refer to a GOD and what is Satan? I realize what these two figures
    have historically been implied to be. Also, I realize in the mindset of some
    here that THEY have it fixed in their mind who these 'figures' are.
    That aside, I find that there is a least ONE major contradiction:
    It is purported God created ALL, without going into to all the rigamarole,
    accounts of the story. Now, we've got it implied that Satan created
    someone: a woman, who was supposedly Cain's wife. So now we have
    Satan creating as God supposedly was/is only capable?

    I've always heard that Lillith was the first wife of Adam and that she killed
    all of her progeny, as working with the "dark forces of heaven" the "fallen ones" she was an instrument in the attempt to destroy humans.

    The so called war in heaven was supposedly over the one faction, headed
    by Lucifer, wanting to destory humans and the "host of God" headed by
    Micahel, Gabriel and the other Arch Angels and heavenly host defended
    humans from harm and death.

    There is obviously something wrong with the entire story. All of it was
    oral, before it was recorded, Any previous written documentation to their
    (Adam, Eve, whomever) existence is not SO FAR available.

    IT might be found on the Planet Mars. Is that far out? For some of you,
    I know it is - I don't know. But, hey, that is about as sensible, feasible
    as all of this other convulted, concocted gobberish that is constantly
    churned out.

    If we could stop these wars and do some serious archelogical investigations
    in the ancient hostoric areas we could learn something REAL and FACTUAL.
    THere is much there to be discovered and known.

    BUT, on the other hand, in the shape of things is the considertion of
    Fate and Destiny. So, things are going as intended, driven by these
    two concepts, and all the events and experiences we know of, as time
    goes by, is/are what is intended to BE.

    Just some Musing? :rolleyes:

    But in the end, no better or worse than ANYONE else that has in the past, now or future took a shot at it!

    Someone here may care to read the story of Enki and Enlil, brothers of
    ancient Sumer and their 'people" or whatever they were. Mentions their
    female counterparts and that they are dealing with "their creation" of
    humans. At on point, there is an arguement: Enki to Enlil: "don't do any-
    thing to make them more slaves than they are now." Enlil to Enki: "we
    do not seek to make them more slave-like than before, we seek to make
    them 'helpers' and more like us." 'Them' is understood to be humans.

    This material comes from ancient Sumer and from Cuniform tablets
    discovered in archelogical excavations.

    One book out now is titled: "the Lost Book Of Enki."
  • 03-12-2006, 05:01 PM
    StormyRay

    Re: Cain's wife ??????????

    How Old is Humanity?

    When it comes to the question of how old humankind is, there are some problems with the standard answers that have been around for the past 200 years. First, each time explorer’s dig up another skeleton, the acceptable timeline has to be redrawn to allow for older and older remains. Second, explorers have found fossilized, manmade “marks” that are completely outside of any rational timeline. A good example of this is a hand print to Gen Rose limestone, which is only found in the Middle Cretaceous period, 110 million years ago! This is so impossible a dating that most scientists simply ignore it. Third, we are finding artifacts in which ancient humans are depicted doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment. We have also found artifacts depicting humans doing impossible things, such as brain surgery. Supporting these illustrations are hundreds of ancient skulls with markings indicating successful brain surgery and that the person lived on for years after the treatment. We have also found artifacts depicting humans interacting with dinosaurs (not the skeletons of dinosaurs, but actual, live, moving dinosaurs.) Of course, this is even more impossible that the 110-million-year-old hand print. Painted on a vase found in the remains of ancient Troy is an image of a woman offering a dinosaur food while a man shoots arrows at it. In Peru, over 300 burial stones found at ancient grave sites depict specific types of dinosaurs (Triceratops, Stegosaurus, and Pterosaurs) in full body form, not skeletons. Perhaps the most outlandish discovery was made by South African miners who found hundreds of carved spheres in a Precambrian deposit that dates back to no less than 2.8 billion years – yes, that is billion, with a “b”!! Of course, we believe that there was no intelligent life back then so these balls are a complete mystery.

    According to Cayce’s reading of the Akashic Records, humans, in pure energy form or spirit form, first came to this planet about 4.6 billion years ago. He says that it is recorded in the Book of Job, in the passage about the morning stars singing together as the foundations of the Earth are being established. But humans did not come into even the slightest three-dimenstional form until around 12-million years ago. If this is so, then how did the human hand print show up in a 110-million-year-old piece of -limestone?

    According to Cayce’s readings, the first quasi-human presence was on a continent in the Pacific Ocean called MU or Lemuria. At that time, human souls were manifesting as thought forms, not physical bodies. However, he says that many wayward souls pushed their minds and spirits into existing animal bodies. The next and more structured form came around 10 million years ago, also in Mu/Lemuria. This was still not a physical body as we know it. Cayce called these forms “root races,” meaning something akin to prototypes, experimental devices for coming out of the fourth dimension into the third with ability to function here. The first two root-race forms were in Mu/Lemuria. (It might be helpful for us to think of these as an astral “body” first and then an etheric “body.”)

    The third root-race form was the first truly physical body. However, even this body was not as dense as ours today, says Cayce. This third body form appeared on a continent in the Atlantic Ocean called Atlantis only 210,000 years ago. It was a hermaphroditic body, having both sexual forces within itself, making it able to conceive new bodies from itself. Around 106,000 years ago, the first separate male and female bodies were created. Cayce called this the “first Eden,” noting that it was in Poseidia, Atlantis.

    The Eden of the Bible was between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, which are in modern-day Iraq. The dating of this Eden is difficult, but some Cayce researchers have determined it to be sometime around 12,000 B.C. with Adam dying around 11,070 B.C. at the age of 930. Remember, the Bible story indicated that there were other humans on Earth during Adam and Eve’s time, because Cain, their only surviving son, finds a wife among these other people and leaves for the Land of Nod, east of Eden, which is modern-day Afghanistan.
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