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  • 08-08-2016, 02:41 AM
    SCAMS

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to
  • 08-06-2016, 04:03 PM
    Mr T

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    He taught alot and some of you fools weren't paying no attention. Jesus is your heart, Do the right thing how you want to be treated. Love Thy Enemy, Come on people
  • 08-05-2016, 02:50 PM
    CarlinAnnArbor

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Administrator View Post
    Jesus moved to Egypt with Mary and Joseph, then to India......he was taught by them. Christianity is heavy Hinduism.

    Thats all fact.
    No, that's not all fact. The scriptures talk about Egypt, not India.

    He didn't go there to "learn" from them. He was taken there to flee murder before His time.
  • 08-04-2016, 11:04 PM
    Hell No

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Jesus often spoke about forgiveness, forgave those who sinned against others, forgave those who sinned against him, and asked the Church to continue his healing ministry. Jesus taught, “If you forgive others their transgressions, your heavenly Father will forgive you” (Mt 6:14). Peter asked Jesus how often it is necessary to forgive, and Jesus replied, “Seventy-seven times” (Mt 18:22), a number to be taken symbolically, not literally, for the never-ending way that we ought to forgive
  • 07-18-2016, 10:38 PM
    Sviat

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    This is not on topic. Troy knows how to play the game at least unlike you. Keep screwing with me .............................
  • 07-18-2016, 06:23 PM
    Joecool44

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Troy McClure View Post
    Troy McClure will be Trumps Vice president
  • 07-18-2016, 06:18 PM
    Administrator

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Jesus moved to Egypt with Mary and Joseph, then to India......he was taught by them. Christianity is heavy Hinduism.

    Thats all fact.
  • 07-03-2016, 06:39 PM
    Administrator

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

  • 02-03-2006, 02:33 AM
    sojustask

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Worried_in_the_USA
    I am very interested in knowing how many of you Christians explain John 10:34. This is when Jesus is being accused of blasphemy by the Jews, and his answer to them was John 10:34 “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”

    The law he was referring to was of course the Old Testament. Psalms 82:6 reads “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most high.”

    There are only a few religions that teach we are literal children of God and therefore gods our selves. Do you say that Jesus lied when he said this? Jesus says he said it, stating that he is the author, “I said, Ye are gods.” Are you going to say Jesus took this out of context? Are you going to say Jesus was wrong?

    I would like very much to hear how you explain this. The Gospel of Jesus has been changed much over the years since his death, but his words never change and in them we can find his truth and his love.
    You must look at Psalm 82 and see it as a whole, not as one verse. The context of the psalm is referring to judges and magistrates. About justice. A judge is "all powerful" in a courtroom, he hands down judgments like a God. If verse one it states that GOD gives judgments among the gods. That He stands in the assembly in the midst of the magistrates.

    Men are gods (since they judge on His behalf as His representative). vs 6.

    Vs 7 says we shall die as men and fall as one of the princes.

    The entire chapter practically has to do with questioning the magistrates about their UNJUST Judgments.

    Now go back to John: 10:33-35: The Jews replied, We are not going to stone You for a good act, but for blasphemy; because You, a mere man, make Yourself [out to be] God.

    Jesus answer, Is it not written in your Law, I said, Ye are gods? (referring to psalms 82;6)

    So men are called gods - by the Law- men to who God's message came, and the scripture cannot be set aside or cancelled or broken or annulled....etc.

    It's only in the context that men are to judge one another by our works, are you doing the work of God or not? Not to stand in judgment or condemn, but you are a living testimony of what you believe. You can SAY anything you want but it's how you live that people will judge.

    Jesus said if he wasn't doing the works of his Father, do not believe him, do not adhere, trust or rely on him. vs 37 But if he was, even if they decided not to believe him or have faith in him, at least believe the works and have faith in what he was doing in order that they would understand that the Father was in him and he was in the Father, was One with Him.

    There's a little bit of God in every thing He creates. How Not?

    Namaste'

    Lady Mod
  • 02-02-2006, 11:30 PM
    Zen

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    The given example of Jesus' saying is easily interpreted from the point of view of eastern philosophy. Humans are really sons of the God, The One. The main difficulty and the goal of any religion is gaining the particular experience that could help in realizing it. And the final point when the logic ends, right at the edge of enlightment and revelation, it becomes clear that there is nobody and nothing, but the God.
  • 01-30-2006, 11:07 PM
    heatwaveo8

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Worried_in_the_USA
    I am very interested in knowing how many of you Christians explain John 10:34. This is when Jesus is being accused of blasphemy by the Jews, and his answer to them was John 10:34 “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”

    The law he was referring to was of course the Old Testament. Psalms 82:6 reads “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most high.”

    There are only a few religions that teach we are literal children of God and therefore gods our selves. Do you say that Jesus lied when he said this? Jesus says he said it, stating that he is the author, “I said, Ye are gods.” Are you going to say Jesus took this out of context? Are you going to say Jesus was wrong?

    I would like very much to hear how you explain this. The Gospel of Jesus has been changed much over the years since his death, but his words never change and in them we can find his truth and his love.
    Your question is pretty darn close to accurate. I belong to the LDS church, which is one of the churches that proclaims us as being literal children of God. There's a little more to it, though, that can help clarify what Christ meant.

    Many of the Bible's words have been altered over time by the ignorance of man to fit their own beliefs, especially as it has been translated from one language to another. The biggest witness of this is the hundreds, if not thousands, of versions of the Bible exist in the world today. Therefore, I personally don't know how accurate that passage is in any form of the Bible as compared to the Bible's true version. The way I've been taught it, however, is that our spirits were organized by the hands of God, and we have the potential, by following his commandments and enduring to the end, to become like Him.

    Therefore, it appears that Christ is displaying to us not that we are Gods right now, but about our potential to become one. Take the following scripture, for example, from Ephesians 4 in the KJV....

    "11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

    12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

    13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:"

    Christ's life was an example for us to know how to become Gods. He atoned so that we could return to His Father's presence with His glory added upon us. Because of this atonement, we can repent and be forgiven, and therefore improve ourselves each day. We are not literally Gods right now, though, or else we'd be able to have spirit children. We can only have physical children while living this life, which is in essence bringing God's spirit children into the world to be tested in the same way we are.
  • 01-03-2006, 02:26 PM
    Lizard Slayer

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx
    what's your point!?a god is a spirit.a man is a soul.operating a spirit(host).so yes,all men are gods.(and all spirits judge by their nature)(and thus a man judgeth by what spirit he is posessed by).but what are you tryin to convey here!?WWJD!?hehe!!he died!!so all could live.follow him.is that what you mean!?or are you on a kick-ass rant!?just askin.if i'm outa context ...nevermind.hehe!and hey lizardslayer!i seen your avatar(laughed out loud!) on an hyip forum somwhere!?just a coincidence!?hehe!!
    Hi Lexx,

    Thanks, the avatar was meant to amuse, a picture is worth 1K words. I came here looking for information on a marketing scam. I was sucked in on a discussion and found some interesting folks here. I don’t inhabit any other forum’s except for an occasional /.

    Part of the problem with this thread is there are folks that are trying to resize the pond.

    Kids start out life talking about how they want to be astronauts, or the president, or Bill Gates. They see a vast world of limitless possibility and imagine themselves filling up an enormous space within it. As people age, they start to realize that they most likely won't be a Michael Jordan or a Bill Gates, and their response is not to be content being a small fish in a big pond -- it's to reduce the size of the pond that is 'important'.

    When someone opens a discussion with statements like, “Do you say that Jesus lied when he said this? Jesus says he said it, stating that he is the author, “I said, Ye are gods.” Are you going to say Jesus took this out of context? Are you going to say Jesus was wrong?”

    They are not looking for answers, they want to reduce the scope of the important world, until they are a big fish. Anything outside of the scope of their reduced point can’t be considered, because their agenda was set from the beginning. This is not helpful for them or others.

    - LS
  • 01-03-2006, 11:17 AM
    lexx

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Worried_in_the_USA
    Your idea that god means judge does not work in this case; Jesus was being accused of blasphemy. Nowhere did the Jews accuse him of calling himself a judge. Blasphemy is calling one self God, or a God. Many churches call this the only unforgivable sin. This is a clear demonstration of the true teaching of Christ that has been turned around one hundred and eighty degrees.

    Jesus claims to be the author of the Law, the Psalms. He is stating that this law says all men are gods. If you are a Christian then you have to accept the words of Christ and his interpretation of them. The fact that we are indeed gods changes much and explains even more. Jesus confirmed this idea when he said that we could move mountains if we had enough faith.

    Over the history of religion it was nothing the leaders of the Church wanted their members to understand. Today few people even notice this verse in the Bible (John 10:34), they have been so trained to believe what they have been told rather that what Christ said. Satan was released into this world long before us and had lots of time to plant his deceptions. I would hope that some might read this post and ponder it and decide for them selves if they will follow Jesus Christ or follow man.
    what's your point!?a god is a spirit.a man is a soul.operating a spirit(host).so yes,all men are gods.(and all spirits judge by their nature)(and thus a man judgeth by what spirit he is posessed by).but what are you tryin to convey here!?WWJD!?hehe!!he died!!so all could live.follow him.is that what you mean!?or are you on a kick-ass rant!?just askin.if i'm outa context ...nevermind.hehe!and hey lizardslayer!i seen your avatar(laughed out loud!) on an hyip forum somwhere!?just a coincidence!?hehe!!
  • 01-03-2006, 06:39 AM
    ComplexKid

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Nope--you missed the point entirely.
  • 01-03-2006, 05:07 AM
    April47

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Worried_in_the_USA
    I am very interested in knowing how many of you Christians explain John 10:34. This is when Jesus is being accused of blasphemy by the Jews, and his answer to them was John 10:34 “Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?”

    The law he was referring to was of course the Old Testament. Psalms 82:6 reads “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most high.”

    There are only a few religions that teach we are literal children of God and therefore gods our selves. Do you say that Jesus lied when he said this? Jesus says he said it, stating that he is the author, “I said, Ye are gods.” Are you going to say Jesus took this out of context? Are you going to say Jesus was wrong?

    I would like very much to hear how you explain this. The Gospel of Jesus has been changed much over the years since his death, but his words never change and in them we can find his truth and his love.

    So I don't misunderstand this... you're saying that Jesus said that he was the author of what was in the old testament, right? and you're wondering how could that be since he wasn't around then, right?

    If that's what you're asking then the answer is simple. JESUS IS GOD but in the flesh form. They're the same. Just as water can be liquid, ice, or vapor... God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.



    PS... I didn't read ANY of this thread... only the first post.. so if anyone else's already mentioned this, I'm sorry, I didn't know\
  • 01-03-2006, 04:50 AM
    Worried_in_the_USA

    Re: What did Jesus teach?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lizard Slayer
    My pleasure. We should have a desire for objective truth, whatever this truth may turn out to be for us.

    John 1:
    V-47, "Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him,
    Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!"
    V-48, "Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus
    answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou
    wast under the fig tree, I saw thee."

    Nathanael is startled because how did Jesus know that he was an Israelite? Nathanael was under the fig tree literally and spiritually. Israel is the fig tree symbolically and that is the teaching Nathaniel was under at the time. Of course, literally Philip had found him sitting under the fig tree, as well.

    V-49, "Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel."

    Nathanael suddenly realized it is true, this is Messiah! He
    calls Him Rabbi (teacher), but quickly adds that Jesus is the Son of God, King of Israel. This revelation of Nathanael was similar to the time when Jesus asked the disciples, who He was and Peter said, "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God". This is not a son, but the Son. He says in essence, it is right for you to rule.


    V-50, "Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these."

    More thread reference:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Son

    From what I see here it would seem I was right and he was amazed Jesus saw him under a fig tree in vision and Jesus told him he would see much greater miracles than this. I am confused, how is this mocking?
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