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  • 10-16-2012, 05:56 PM
    bibleman

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by eugene66 View Post
    :yelcutelaughA:




    Hey, at least someone thought it was funny. :spin2:





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  • 10-16-2012, 02:52 AM
    eugene66

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by bibleman View Post
    Slapstick and Religion don't mix.....yet.

    Could be funny, couldn't it?



    Scene - Jesus baptism

    Situation - John the baptist just finishes and the Holy Spirit descends upon Jesus in the form of.......TWEETY!!

    Out of the crowd leaps Sylvester the Cat.

    Sylvester: "Sufferin' Succotash, how did he get way over there!"

    With a greedy grin, a mighty leap, and a wild grab, Sylvester falls short of Tweety after running headlong into Granny's mysteriously weighted purse.

    Granny: "You're a bad pu ssycat!"

    Tweety: "Bad ol' puddy tat!" Says with a scowl, as he flits onto Granny's shoulder and out of harm's way.

    Off in the distance we here a "meep meep" as the Roadrunner goes speeding by followed closely by Wile E. Coyote in a desert robe and turban yielding an acme scimitar with an as-yet-undiscovered flaw that will leave the audience laughing......





    Hmm......


    Nah.....wouldn't work.



    :freak3:
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    :yelcutelaughA:
  • 10-13-2012, 12:12 PM
    bibleman

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    This is a my last posting.

    I just discovered that scam.com has eliminated one of my religious threads about Satan. I was not warned or advised about its deletion. I assume, based on atheist who have objected to my threads, that scam.com decided to eliminate my influence.

    Rather than waiting for other threads to be deleted, I am withdrawing from scam.com.

    Do not misinterpret. My withdrawal has nothing to do with ego, or any feeling of importance. It is because of a clear indication of discrimination against me and other believers. After all, this is scam.com where atheist have the upper hand.

    I've enjoyed debates and knowledge gained from discussions.



    Really? You're done because you think there was some conspiracy to silence you? Really???

    You think that there are atheists here who take your words so strongly that they would delete you to get rid of you......REALLY??????


    The only way us atheists have an upper hand is if you bow out as you are doing now.....others have done it before you and more will follow after you....and all of them leave, really, because they wore their hearts on their shoulders and got their feelings hurt over this, that, or the other....
    Someone called them names they didn't like. Someone 'attacked' their beliefs one too many times. Someone made up a 'hurtful' sig line against them. Someone is secretly conspiring to silence the 'truth' of christ.

    etc, etc, etc....

    More likely, your thread was deleted by accident along with others on the forum when there was a massive spam attack to the site.

    Other FAR more popular and reviewed topics and discussions were deleted than yours around the same time.

    You do have the ability at your disposal to paraphrase your original message and repost, yes?

    My advice would be to try that, rather than use your current excuse to bow out of discussions that you honestly and secretly just don't really want to engage in anymore....

    Rama bless you....and go with Christ. :






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  • 10-13-2012, 10:46 AM
    bibleman

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by lexx View Post
    you mean like...I TAWT I TAW A PUDDY TAT!?


    Slapstick and Religion don't mix.....yet.

    Could be funny, couldn't it?



    Scene - Jesus baptism

    Situation - John the baptist just finishes and the Holy Spirit descends upon Jesus in the form of.......TWEETY!!

    Out of the crowd leaps Sylvester the Cat.

    Sylvester: "Sufferin' Succotash, how did he get way over there!"

    With a greedy grin, a mighty leap, and a wild grab, Sylvester falls short of Tweety after running headlong into Granny's mysteriously weighted purse.

    Granny: "You're a bad pu ssycat!"

    Tweety: "Bad ol' puddy tat!" Says with a scowl, as he flits onto Granny's shoulder and out of harm's way.

    Off in the distance we here a "meep meep" as the Roadrunner goes speeding by followed closely by Wile E. Coyote in a desert robe and turban yielding an acme scimitar with an as-yet-undiscovered flaw that will leave the audience laughing......





    Hmm......


    Nah.....wouldn't work.



    :freak3:
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  • 10-11-2012, 10:56 PM
    lexx

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by LogicallyYours View Post
    That's because it's were the majority of "stupid" claims are made.
    you mean like...I TAWT I TAW A PUDDY TAT!? : :yelcutelaughA: :spin2: :king22:
  • 10-11-2012, 06:57 PM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: God is Duality.

    That's because it's were the majority of "stupid" claims are made.
  • 10-10-2012, 11:55 AM
    1stein

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by GHOST DOG View Post
    When a premise published by poster #1 is effectively attacked by another premise from poster #2, which only ridicules the initial post's logic, or lack of proof and not it's publisher's person, why must the first poster believe that he was the victim of a personal attack?

    Yes, there are many personal attacks here on this site, but I work hard to refrain from Ad Hominem.

    How others view this subject is their business, but I only attack a premise's underpinnings and it's bases for existence, always wondering just where it belongs in our reality.

    From my tenure on this site, I've run into quite a few folks with thin skin, and who take way too many things personal.
    Yes there is that. But then there is also the most stupid blatant attacks like "That because you're stupid" or something like that.

    The place where they pop up the most is in religious debates.
  • 10-10-2012, 10:08 AM
    GHOST DOG

    Re: God is Duality.

    Expect ridicule and expect all kinds of ploys to prevent your message from going out clear.
    When a premise published by poster #1 is effectively attacked by another premise from poster #2, which only ridicules the initial post's logic, or lack of proof and not it's publisher's person, why must the first poster believe that he was the victim of a personal attack?

    Yes, there are many personal attacks here on this site, but I work hard to refrain from Ad Hominem.

    How others view this subject is their business, but I only attack a premise's underpinnings and it's bases for existence, always wondering just where it belongs in our reality.

    From my tenure on this site, I've run into quite a few folks with thin skin, and who take way too many things personal.
  • 10-10-2012, 02:47 AM
    eugene66

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cnance View Post
    This is a my last posting.

    I just discovered that scam.com has eliminated one of my religious threads about Satan. I was not warned or advised about its deletion. I assume, based on atheist who have objected to my threads, that scam.com decided to eliminate my influence.

    Rather than waiting for other threads to be deleted, I am withdrawing from scam.com.

    Do not misinterpret. My withdrawal has nothing to do with ego, or any feeling of importance. It is because of a clear indication of discrimination against me and other believers. After all, this is scam.com where atheist have the upper hand.

    I've enjoyed debates and knowledge gained from discussions.
    I thought you deleted it yourself because the topic was moving onto Duality at the time and it was progressing in a good way at the time but it was a little besides the point you were discussing.

    The mother of all conspiracy is to keep us away from accessing "God within" You don't want your slaves to get clever, ambitions and most of all you don't want them to wake to the reality that they are living an illusion created by themselves that keeps them trapped.

    There are other privately owned forums on the net where discussions like these lead to great enlightening insights amongst thousands of daily visitors, but here I noticed when it gets close to it something always goes haywire. If its not the shills then the thread dissappears.

    That is why whenever I get here its the same old tiny little groupie hanging about keeping one another busy. Most spiritual and especially enlightened people don't want to mix with the types of energy you find around on this site and also....there is no active police system in place to at least keep the shills civil.

    So think of this site as a practice site, don't expect to be understood, don't even expect the desire to understand you. Expect ridicule and expect all kinds of ploys to prevent your message from going out clear. Those are nice ods to use to practice communications with. Don't expect to "win" because its not about winning.

    If something goes missing or lost in translation then it does but the energy and frequencies of the question still hangs and that was why I was not surprised to see so many other places where the subject of duality suddenly popped up to continue. The collective consciousness got enlightened to that stage where those questions become relevant.
  • 10-10-2012, 02:29 AM
    eugene66

    Re: God is Duality.

    Gosh I am so busy elsewhere, whenever I get around here it is sometimes amaizing to see how a topic has "run off" in its own direction.

    So where does all this fit in with the statement that "God is duality." ??
  • 10-09-2012, 04:15 AM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: God is Duality.

    While I disagree with CNANCE and find both intellectually and morally dishonest, I fail to see why his thread was eliminated. I can understand if it was redundant and then combined. But, then that happens, usually some type of notice is given.

    Is that not the case?

    With regards to "Atheists who object to my threads", not me. I object to your failure to use logic honestly...specially with your own beliefs.
  • 10-08-2012, 10:41 PM
    Cnance

    Re: God is Duality.

    This is a my last posting.

    I just discovered that scam.com has eliminated one of my religious threads about Satan. I was not warned or advised about its deletion. I assume, based on atheist who have objected to my threads, that scam.com decided to eliminate my influence.

    Rather than waiting for other threads to be deleted, I am withdrawing from scam.com.

    Do not misinterpret. My withdrawal has nothing to do with ego, or any feeling of importance. It is because of a clear indication of discrimination against me and other believers. After all, this is scam.com where atheist have the upper hand.

    I've enjoyed debates and knowledge gained from discussions.
  • 10-08-2012, 07:03 PM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: God is Duality.

    You do! Where is the evidence? Hot air doesn't suffice.

    Why don't you read articles before you post them. There is nothing here about evidence, just speculation. That goes on all time in science.


    You've made a mistake underestimating my critiquing ability. There is no theory that I can't critique, even those with evidence have flaws. What you two keep presenting are theories without evidence.

    You stated, "There are many other evidences that support a multiverse theory as the cause." What evidence? Post them.
    Really???

    ...have revealed that they have discovered four statistically unlikely circular patterns in the cosmic microwave background (CMB). The researchers think that these marks could be “bruises” that our universe has incurred from being bumped four times by other universes.
    I know it's not angels, satan and "Poof!"...so, I'm not holding my breath you would actually acknowledge any type of evidence.

    You've made a mistake underestimating my critiquing ability. There is no theory that I can't critique, even those with evidence have flaws. What you two keep presenting are theories without evidence.

    Actually, I haven't. You don't have two brain cells to rub together for heat. Anyone can critique what they don't want to understand.

    I used to think you wouldn't accept any theory unless it was proved A-Z. Now I know you won't accept even that. That is, unless it has something to do with angels and fairies.

    ...AND we have all witnessed your dishonesty with the theory of Evolution....how you claim to have no problem with it and then claim later, that it's statistically impossible.
  • 10-08-2012, 06:55 PM
    GHOST DOG

    Re: God is Duality.

    First of all there is no direct statement of or even a hint of evidence.
    (Ahem)......Here is your direct statement:
    That is not the answer of modern science.
    That sounds fairly direct to me....

    The evidence is in the logical application of the math Hawking and the others have performed...he just doesn't spell the mathematical formulas out in his oversimplified book.

    I know, I know...you want to hold the evidence in your hand and cannot.

    In this way you don't have to go along with his theory, leaving yours in the dust.

    Your typical escape route.

    Here we have a real fairy tale idea, "Our universe seems to be one of many, each with different laws. That multiverse idea is not a notion invented to account for the miracle of fine tuning."
    You, above most others would certainly know "fairy tales," with the exception that this one can be confirmed as viable through the math, the logic, and the observations made along the lines of particle physics.

    Too bad about your theory.....

    This statement of course is pure nonsense.
    Every statement that doesn't agree with your premise, Cnance, seems to be "pure nonsense" to you....

    I'd like to call Hawking up and tell him that there is this guy, Cnance, on this website that seems to think that his theories about origins is pure nonsense, but he cannot give any evidence pointing to the refutation of it.

    He might just laugh himself right out of his wheelchair....

    I really enjoy debunking these theories, especially when there is absolutely no evidence.
    If you knew the math and understood it, and you had an open mind, you'd see it....

    Interesting!
    Something of substance and applications, (Hawking's well-respected theories) against something without any substance, and only an emotional source and application. (Cnance's theories)
    Let the "battle" begin......
    Sorry, you're wasting your time. It all goes back to what science does know. Most scientist agree that it all began with the big bang. Some, like Hawking, make up theories to fit atheism. Like you and the other atheist on this forum, they're incapable of considering any other possibility.
    If you really knew what you were talking about, you'd know that Hawking, in his books, gives life to the Big Bang Theory, through quantum mechanics....
    Guess what?

    The source is..........nothing!
  • 10-08-2012, 06:34 PM
    Cnance

    Re: God is Duality.

    Quote Originally Posted by LogicallyYours View Post
    Here is just one piece on multiverse theory...this is a bubble multiverse theory. There are many other evidences that support a multiverse theory as the cause.







    Oh, I get it, you don't really understand how theory works. Do you know about the scientific method? Well, here is a lesson for you. For a hypothesis to be confirmed, evidence is required. It is never too late, maybe you should go back to school.
    No, actually I do. I find it funny that any theory that doesn't point to your make believe sky fairy, you dismiss out of hand.
    You do! Where is the evidence? Hot air doesn't suffice.
    I'd tell you to go back to school but, I'd hate to see you waste your money a second time.
    Why don't you read articles before you post them. There is nothing here about evidence, just speculation. That goes on all time in science.

    You've made a mistake underestimating my critiquing ability. There is no theory that I can't critique, even those with evidence have flaws. What you two keep presenting are theories without evidence.

    You stated, "There are many other evidences that support a multiverse theory as the cause." What evidence? Post them.

    Bubble universes that bounce around hitting each other, kind of like bumper cars at the amusement park, that's truly imaginative. I got it, why don't they watch Lawrence Welk where champagne bubbles float onto the stage. If we could only find that bubble machine. That's it, in another multiple universe a gigantic blob was born, that's where bubble universes came from.

    That is not just humor, science must account for a beginning. even for multiple universes, unless scientist can deny the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics, or implications of the big bang for time, matter and energy, there must be a beginning.
  • 10-08-2012, 06:06 PM
    LogicallyYours

    Re: God is Duality.

    Here is just one piece on multiverse theory...this is a bubble multiverse theory. There are many other evidences that support a multiverse theory as the cause.

    The signatures of a bubble collision: A collision (top left) induces a temperature modulation in the CMB temperature map (top right). The “blob” associated with the collision is identified by a large needlet response (bottom left), and the presence of an edge is determined by a large response from the edge detection algorithm (bottom right).

    (PhysOrg.com) -- By looking far out into space and observing what’s going on there, scientists have been led to theorize that it all started with a Big Bang, immediately followed by a brief period of super-accelerated expansion called inflation.
    Perhaps this was the beginning of everything, but lately a few scientists have been wondering if something could have come before that, setting up the initial conditions for the birth of our universe.

    In the most recent study on pre-Big Bang science posted at arXiv.org, a team of researchers from the UK, Canada, and the US, Stephen M. Feeney, et al, have revealed that they have discovered four statistically unlikely circular patterns in the cosmic microwave background (CMB). The researchers think that these marks could be “bruises” that our universe has incurred from being bumped four times by other universes. If they turn out to be correct, it would be the first evidence that universes other than ours do exist.

    The idea that there are many other universes out there is not new, as scientists have previously suggested that we live in a “multiverse” consisting of an infinite number of universes. The multiverse concept stems from the idea of eternal inflation, in which the inflationary period that our universe went through right after the Big Bang was just one of many inflationary periods that different parts of space were and are still undergoing. When one part of space undergoes one of these dramatic growth spurts, it balloons into its own universe with its own physical properties. As its name suggests, eternal inflation occurs an infinite number of times, creating an infinite number of universes, resulting in the multiverse.

    These infinite universes are sometimes called bubble universes even though they are irregular-shaped, not round. The bubble universes can move around and occasionally collide with other bubble universes. As Feeney, et al., explain in their paper, these collisions produce inhomogeneities in the inner-bubble cosmology, which could appear in the CMB. The scientists developed an algorithm to search for bubble collisions in the CMB with specific properties, which led them to find the four circular patterns.

    Still, the scientists acknowledge that it is rather easy to find a variety of statistically unlikely properties in a large dataset like the CMB. The researchers emphasize that more work is needed to confirm this claim, which could come in short time from the Planck satellite, which has a resolution three times better than that of WMAP (where the current data comes from), as well as an order of magnitude greater sensitivity. Nevertheless, they hope that the search for bubble collisions could provide some insight into the history of our universe, whether or not the collisions turn out to be real.

    “The conclusive non-detection of a bubble collision can be used to place stringent limits on theories giving rise to eternal inflation; however, if a bubble collision is verified by future data, then we will gain an insight not only into our own universe but a multiverse beyond,” the researchers write in their study.

    This is the second study in the past month that has used CMB data to search for what could have occurred before the Big Bang. In the first study, Roger Penrose and Vahe Gurzadyan found concentric circles with lower-than-average temperature variation in the CMB, which could be evidence for a cyclic cosmology in which Big Bangs occur over and over.

    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2010-12-scienti...erses.html#jCp


    So, Mr. Logic, who is full of hot air, where is the evidence for Hawking's multiple universes?
    Oh, I get it, you don't really understand how theory works. Do you know about the scientific method? Well, here is a lesson for you. For a hypothesis to be confirmed, evidence is required. It is never too late, maybe you should go back to school.[/QUOTE]

    No, actually I do. I find it funny that any theory that doesn't point to your make believe sky fairy, you dismiss out of hand.

    I'd tell you to go back to school but, I'd hate to see you waste your money a second time.
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