Anyone heard of Xooma

[helpme]

They keep popping up and it is some type of powder. That will make your drink healthier. Any other information would be appreciated.

[scambuster]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=snake%20oil

[Soapboxmom]

Scambuster,

I think you hit the nail on the head, but I have been requested to further evaluate this opportunity so here goes.

http://successcourse.com/home.cgi/XA...ationplan.html

Now, first glance at the compensation plan shows it is a pyramid plain and simple. A 2x6 matrix to be exact. So, recruiting will be the game and they require $25 dollar purchase monthly to get started. As you recruit and build your matrix the required monthly purchase goes up, so we now can see where thay make their money. Reps will be the majority of the customers and likely very little outside customers base will be garnered.

The products I will have to research further, but I never find MLM a good deal for the rep. More to come!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

http://successcourse.com/home.cgi/XA...panyvideo.html

http://www.ourxooma.com/

I think I caught this in an infomercial in the middle of the night once. Let's get the only good news over with. You don't pay any signup fees. The enrollment only requires you to purchase your first 30 packets for $25. That being said I don't see any real need for the product. If I want electrolytes I can buy Gatorade, Cytomax, GU2O or any number of sports drinks that are apparently similiar. They make all kinds of ridiculous and frankly dishonest claims:

� Assimilate vitamins and minerals from food you eat and supplements you take.
� Combat arthritis and heart disease.
� Cleanse the kidneys, intestines, and liver.
� Protect your body from free radical cell damage.
� Increase muscle and joint mobility.
� Increase your oxygen levels.
� Control digestive problems.
� Regulate blood sugar.
� Manage blood pressure.
� Neutralize harmful acids that lead to illness.
� Help in fighting the battle against cancer and other diseases.
� Fights against the physical stress caused by today's fast-paced lifestyles.

Xooma pays out on a 2 x 6 forced spillover, full conversion matrix. That means there are only 2 positions to be occupied on your 1st level, 4 positions on your 2nd level, 8 on your 3rd level, 16, 32 and then 64 on your 6th level. A full matrix will have 126 positions filled.

Forced spillover means that when you refer more than 2 (that would occupy your front level) the extras are forced down to empty positions on your other levels. This provides a teamwork effect. What this means is, that when you, those you refer, the ones they refer, and the referrals from your upline enroll people in the program, they are placed in the next open spot below you.

This helps fill your matrix faster! You're paid a percentage of the purchases on each level. A completed matrix earns you about $300 a month matrix pay.

Matrixes are being completed in a matter of days, weeks or a couple of months. Everyone's activities are different. But, consider this... one month's full matrix pay of $300 covers a whole year of $25 autoships! You are way ahead even if you took six months! Reality to a full matrix is a lot faster than that.

Now, the bonus pay... All 64 people on your 6th level will be getting paid from their 2x6 matrix, once it starts growing, and you receive a matching 25% of all their checks!

When all the matrix pay is $300, like yours, you max out at an extra of $4696 a month bonus. This is in addition to your $300 a month matrix pay. There are also 4 quarterly bonus pools that can earn you even additional bonuses 4 times a year and are based on your personal activities.

Xooma has no sponsored requirements... You could pay your $25 for the product each month and do absolutely nothing. There is so much activity above you that your matrix will complete from spillover alone. You will earn everything described except the 4 bonus quarterly pools because that is based on personal activity.

Of course spillover alone will take a little longer, but it is a way, through Xooma's pay plan, to receive all your matrix pay ($300 maximum per month) and your matching bonus pay ($4696 maximum per month).

Now that isn't all! Using the method we will show, YOU could earn more than $19,000 a month!


So, let's summarize. When you fill your matrix with 126 folks and each autobuys their $25 in products you make a whopping $300 for your efforts. If the 64 folks on your 6th level fill their own matrices then you begin to earn around $4700 a month. Now 64 more filled matrices = 8064 folks. For all of them to make any money this must happen over and over again. There goes the neighborhood, state and planet perhaps. They even have the gall to suggest that if you do nothing your matrix will majically fill on its own. Pleeeeeeeezzzzzzzz! This is a deal where a handful will make a fortune (read goons that started the venture, a few early entrants and recruiters from heck) and the large masses will make nothing. You will have a pantry full of tea bags filled with electrolyte solution that nobody wants or needs. Yick!!!!

Soapboxmom

[Soapboxmom]

http://www.xooma-worldwide-extreme-x2o.com/

"More than 1 in 5 Americans unknowingly drink tap ***** polluted with feces, radiation or other contaminants. Nearly 1,000 deaths each year and at least 400,000 cases of *****borne illness may be attributed to contaminated *****"

-The New York Times - June 2, 1995

Clean your ***** with X2O - Click here to see video! They have really gone completely over the edge. Now, we are led to believe it will kill the bacteria left by fecal contamination and reduce radiation and other contaminants. Bunk!!!!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

http://www.xooma-worldwide-extreme-x2o.com/

"More than 1 in 5 Americans unknowingly drink tap ***** polluted with feces, radiation or other contaminants. Nearly 1,000 deaths each year and at least 400,000 cases of *****borne illness may be attributed to contaminated *****"

-The New York Times - June 2, 1995

Clean your ***** with X2O - Click here to see video! They have really gone completely over the edge. Now, we are led to believe it will kill the bacteria left by fecal contamination and reduce radiation and other contaminants. Bunk!!!!!!!!

Soapboxmom

Removes GUNK, not BUNK. LOL

[rodneyoz]

Here's what I did about Xooma.

Hi (Name Deleted),

About 6 weeks ago (Name Deleted) gave me a sample pack of the X20 sachets. I had my doubts about the claims being made so I bought a ph testing kit and spent the week testing the ***** before and after I had added a sachet. As expected, there was no increase in the ph level or alkalinity of the *****.

Not to be discouraged I sent away for some body fluid ph testing strips (the previous kit was for swimming pools) and on my last trip to Sydney purchased a months supply of X20 at a cost of $50.00. So I've been testing the tap ***** before and after adding the sachets, I've been testing my urine at various times during the days to monitor any changes, I've tested my saliva at various times during the days and I've even tested my blood (cut myself shaving) for changes in the ph levels.

Well, as interesting as it has been I have unfortunately not been able to find any support for the claims made in the promotional material for X20. Not one of the more than 50 samples showed any increase in ph that could be attributed to X20.

If you can show me otherwise, like a practical demonstration, or at least some verifiable independent testing results I would be willing to promote the product. As it stands at the moment I don't feel very supportive of the product and have the opinion that it is less of a product and more of an MLM sham.

I have no doubt that there are people making money from Xooma and X20 but is it for the right reasons, one other X20 distributor I contacted in Sydney had virtually no idea of how the product should be used, but he was quite willing to sign me up or sell me product.

Of course, I would happily accept a refund of my $50.00.

Thanks,

Rod.

as yet I have not received any reply, Geez, what a surprise.

[borisf96]

Not to be discouraged I sent away for some body fluid ph testing strips (the previous kit was for swimming pools) and on my last trip to Sydney purchased a months supply of X20 at a cost of $50.00. So I've been testing the tap ***** before and after adding the sachets, I've been testing my urine at various times during the days to monitor any changes, I've tested my saliva at various times during the days and I've even tested my blood (cut myself shaving) for changes in the ph levels.

You went above and boyond call of duty. We salute you.:)

[WFHGuide]

Totally
Ridiculous,
Ultimately
Tainted
Hype?

Notice they don't have an address listed on their site?

It is listed with the BBB as an "Auto Club" instead of a Multi-Level Selling Company. Plus, they only have a record of it since July 2006. (That address matches the addess listed on Whois, although it appears the domain was recently purchased from another Xooma company that had an unsatisfactory record.

Look at their terms and conditions: "The XOOMA Web site uses "cookies" to help you personalize your online experience."

Why would they need to do this?

Darcy

[ckrouse]

Just about everyone here has almost convinced me that this website is totally off the mark. Not only have you all pretty much put out a bunch of hearsay crap about a product, but NONE of you have offered any proof that Xooma Worldwide is a scam.

I can tell you this. I have done TONS of personal study on coral calcium and sea coral minerals. X2O is mined sea coral off the coast of Okinawa, Jn. Sea coral has over 70 minerals that your body NEEDS. I have been consuming the product for over a month. The first 3 weeks I noticed little difference, but after that I have noticed quite a bit of difference. My acid indigestion problem has cleared up considerably, my ****** level is off the charts, my skin is clearer and my body has become much more hydrated. Don't try to tell anyone that a product is crap unless you have tried it.....and not just a sample pack...but try the product for a good month or two.

So....someone bought a ph test kit and didn't see any desired results. Right....I'm supposed to believe that when I see that Xooma has 2 US Patents and NASA has tested the product. I'm supposed to believe that your tests are better than NASA.

Listen....you read any naturopathic journal, talk to your doctor, or any health expert and they will ALL tell you that the benifits of coral calcium are becoming known. It's fairly common knowledge right now.

With respect to buying your electrolytes in sports drinks. You had better do your research! Sports drinks are the most acidic drinks on the market along with soda drinks. ACID is the killer. Alkaline is the cure. ***** is the alkaline drink. Actually the only other drink that I know of that is ph alkaline is beer. So drink up! Your body needs to be less acidic in order to prevent your blood from robbing your bones and DNA of nutrients in order to ph balance your blood to do it's work.

I could go on and on......but you all seem to be tuned into the negative here. No big deal. The product works wonders for me.

As far as their MLM business model. Good LORD!!! ALL of you are in some form of MLM here. Give me a freakin' break! All business models have their pro's and con's. Xooma let's you wholesale in a MLM, or retail ....or nothing at all. The are NOT a scam. It requires just as much effort to sell X2O as any other product. The thing that I like about Xooma is that they have a product that can be sold.....and you will see it sold. The more that recent studies focus on acidic and alkiline anomalies in the body, the more you'll see products like Xooma take off. It's not about calcium....it's about acid.

Respectfully,
Curtis

[ckrouse]

Soapboxmom,

There are no claims in Xooma literature that X2O will clean radiation and other contaminants OTHER than bacterial and acidic chemicals added to tap ***** like chlorine and flouride. Bacteria CANNOT live in an alkaline environment. If you move the ph of ***** more alkaline than what bacteria can survive in....they die.

Another interesting fact is that cancer cells can't live in a ph neutral to alkaline environment either. It's scientifically proven that cancer cells will die when put in an alkaline bath. Now....will Xooma cure cancer??? Why would anyone even assert that hypothesis?? Although I do know of two very popular naturopath doctors who maintain that if you increase the alkalinity of your blood, it will help reduce cancer and the risk of cancer considerably.

I find it amazing that people are so quick to try to debunk things by not actually getting the facts. I've been studying the effects of body acidity and the benifits of sea coral minerals for a long time. Maybe you should too before you condemn a product that may just be a good product.

If you haven't used it for at least a month....then you don't know what you are talking about.

Curtis

[ckrouse]

Soapboxmom,

There are no claims in Xooma literature that X2O will clean radiation and other contaminants OTHER than bacterial and acidic chemicals added to tap ***** like chlorine and flouride. Bacteria CANNOT live in an alkaline environment. If you move the ph of ***** more alkaline than what bacteria can survive in....they die.

Another interesting fact is that cancer cells can't live in a ph neutral to alkaline environment either. It's scientifically proven that cancer cells will die when put in an alkaline bath. Now....will Xooma cure cancer??? Why would anyone even assert that hypothesis?? Although I do know of two very popular naturopath doctors who maintain that if you increase the alkalinity of your blood, it will help reduce cancer and the risk of cancer considerably.

I find it amazing that people are so quick to try to debunk things without actually getting the facts. I've been studying the effects of body acidity and the benifits of sea coral minerals for a long time. Maybe you should too before you condemn a product that may just be a good product. Most sports drinks have only 2 or 3 electolye minerals. Xooma has 70 which are derived from the ocean which is about the only place left on earth that hasn't been completed depleted of natural minerals that we need for health.

If you haven't used it for at least a month....then you don't know what you are talking about. And yes...I have been using it for more than a month and it is a very good quality supplement.

One more thing......you should evaluate the main company not some high minded team builder using the corporation to promote their "team" concepts. The two links that you investigated are "teams" not the parent company themselves. If you want to check out the main Xooma website, then you can check out my link right from the main Xooma corporation. It's www.xoomaworldwide.com/curtisk You should know as well as I that "teams" of marketeers will spin things to catch prospects. And that means they may spin information to lead one to believe the "pie in the sky" scenario. Being a Xooma distributor is just like any other legit network marketing company. It will take hard work and perseverance to make a business income from it.

Curtis

[WFHGuide]

Okay, I could debunk this sales pitch myself, but I'll let this other site do it (since they do it better).

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html


I think this statement from that page says it all:

Ground*****s containing metal ions such as calcium and magnesium can be rendered slightly alkaline by electrolysis, but after it hits the highly acidic gastric fluid in the stomach, its alkalinity is gone.

Or you can check out this site which ALSO debunks it by Dr. Weil:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA98873/

Darcy

So it comes out that Xooma is a matrix program with not so unique wellness product !

[ckrouse]

That would be true if Xooma offered an electrolysis system....but they don't.

Minerals are much better absorbed into your body through ***** as opposed to pills or caps.

You aren't getting it......X2O is a mineral supplement. Plain, simple, just the same as if you crushed up that calcium tab or cap and put it in a glass of ***** to drink. I suppose that you would maintain that all calcium and magnesium supplements are bunk since you have to take them orally. Well...I suppose that you could try to take them via another popular body orifice...hahaha.

***** needs to have minerals in order to help the blood ph balance. The blood can't perform well when it is in an acidic state. Your body will naturally ph balance the blood by robbing calcium from your bones. Now that's a good thing huh?

You can provide all the information about electrolysis or chemical analysis that you like from a chemist. However, chemists don't have a clue about biology unless they are bio-chemists. My good friend who has educated me about mineral supplements IS a bio-chemist.

Ok...so you got Dr. Weil an M.D. His opinion of alkalinity in ***** is negative. And I can accept what he says. I wonder what he would say if you asked him how bad it is to consume mineral supplements? Geez....should I really replenish those electrolytes after a heavy workout Dr? Does that mean that all sports drinks that contain electrolyte minerals are just pure crap?

Give me a break! I suppose that the human body would do just fine without any mineral supplements. Right? Ok...Xooma markets it's mineral supplement with an alkaline spin. Hmmmmm......I guess that market spin is an evil thing? I suppose that no one should market things with a spin right? HA!!! Fat chance.

You can't really judge the value of a product by strictly focussing on the market spin. ESPECIALLY if you don't understand what the product really is. You can't compare mineral supplements with electrolysis. You really need to get more than one medical opinion....especially when it involves an M.D. And you really should not use a forum that touts itself as a source for people to identify scams AND use it to try to debunk a legitimate MLM business...UNLESS you are very methodical in your process.

So far you have not met any convincing criteria for me to accept your analysis. By your own words.....you have admitted that a referred website can debunk something far better than you. Then you show an article about electrolysis??? What kind of crap is that? You really have failed to debunk anything accept your own ability to spend the time necessary to educate yourself about a product. If you don't understand the difference between supplements and electrolysis machines, how can anyone view your opinion as anything but invalid? Since you clearly don't understand or accept that there are NUMEROUS medical experts that provide alternative opinions about minerals and their role in health, then perhaps you should not engage in any discussion about it.

ALSO.....I thought that this was supposed to be about scams??? If you can identify anything about Xooma that is a scam.....please do so. If you can't....let it alone.

I'm pretty much done with this......later.

[ckrouse]

I have to say that you guys really leave me wondering if you know what you are talking about. How difficult is it to get the real facts before you spout off your OPINIONS? Apparently, it's pretty difficult.

Right off the Xooma Worldwide website:
Xooma Worldwide
150 Research Drive
Hampton, VA 23666
Toll Free: 888-865-6687
FAX: 800-851-7486

You should verify things before you pay attention to anything on this site...I'm learning that very quickly.





Notice they don't have an address listed on their site?

It is listed with the BBB as an "Auto Club" instead of a Multi-Level Selling Company. Plus, they only have a record of it since July 2006. (That address matches the addess listed on Whois, although it appears the domain was recently purchased from another Xooma company that had an unsatisfactory record.

Look at their terms and conditions: "The XOOMA Web site uses "cookies" to help you personalize your online experience."

Why would they need to do this?

Darcy[/quote]

[ckrouse]

Originally Posted by WFHGuide

Or you can check out this site which ALSO debunks it by Dr. Weil:
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QA/QA98873/

Darcy

Good Lord! Then I find this out about good ole Dr. Weil. He sells his own line of nutrients. Now that's the kind of expert opinion that I want. Talk about conflict of interest??? I'm not sure any evaluation by him would warrant any value now:

http://www.npicenter.com/anm/templat...0562&zoneid=12

[dr poormouth]

I take Doc Weill's advice with a grain of salt- but I take it.
He goes a bit heavy on the "natural über alles", but is sound enough on the basics. Currently, he is the only alt-med type I'm willing to bend an ear to.

Calcium is calcium. Don't matter if it's from coral, oyster shell, beefbone, or dolomite (marble). Most folks get enough from a regular diet; Those who need a supplement- at risk for, or suffering from osteoporosis, say- can take it anywhichway; tablet, capsule, gnawing on a bone like a squirrel, or licking a marble headstone (Happy Hallowe'en!)
I get a little tired of reading claims for proprietary "superior nutrient delivery methods";
They're all flummery.

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[starryknight]

This is a reply to ckrouse.

If this product is truly changing you physically for the better, then I'm happy for you. Just be sure what you are experiencing is not because of the "***** of suggestion". Sometimes if enough people tell you something is supposed to work a certain way, then you may actually believe you are experiencing it.

Just to tell you my experience with Xooma, I was in it for about 6 months. I was 51 years old at the time (I'm 52 now). I have a concern about my retirement and my health and want to avoid problems with both situations if at all possible. I listened to my sponsor and read the material associated with Xooma. I do somewhat believe that many diseases cannot survive in an alkaline environment so I decide to give Xooma a chance. I used the product religiously every day and checked my body ph periodically. During the last 1-1/2 months in Xooma, I began using 2 packets in the ***** bottle. After 6 months, I came to the conclusion that the product did not work for me. My body ph did not change at all. I also have acid reflux disease. After about 4 months of use, I decided to try getting off the daily medication but after 1-2 days, the heartburn came right back. Also, towards the end of the 6 months, I continued to do research and came across several articles involving alkalinity and the body. This was one of the articles:

www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html

At the bottom of the page, there is another link to an article concerning Coral Calcium and Robert Barefoot, whose infomercials I have seen. His claims about Coral Calcium were unfounded and he got into a heap of trouble with the FDA. I also found out that Xooma looked like it was just a repackaged Coral Calcium product that was similar to what Robert Barefoot was trying to sell. With regards to your claim of Dr. Weil's article as being a conflict of interest, I don't see it that way. I'm sure if he truly believed alkalizing the body prevented most diseases, he would have developed his own product to go with his supplement line. I don't believe he was disagreeing with this concept because of a fear of competition.

In conclusion, I left Xooma for 2 main reasons. First, based on my experience and research, the product did not work for me as claimed and I truly believe it doesn't work as claimed. Secondly, when I joined, the forced matrix payout included all levels. A few months later, the company eliminated payouts on the first 2 levels and increase the payout percentages on the lower levels. I'm sure they had their reasons for doing that, but that change totally turned me off.

Again, if the product and business has changed you for the better, then you should stick with it. It just wasn't something I wanted to waste my money on.

[psiloscope]

Originally Posted by ckrouse

So....someone bought a ph test kit and didn't see any desired results. Right....I'm supposed to believe that when I see that Xooma has 2 US Patents and NASA has tested the product. I'm supposed to believe that your tests are better than NASA.



Respectfully,
Curtis

Hey Curtis,
I thought this might interest you. I emailed NASA Langley Research Center and they replied to me quick smart. Looks like I have stirred the pot somewhat. NASA doesn't endorse Xooma and the claims that NASA have done these tests are highly dubious. Quite frankly I think some random guy with a pH testing kit has more credibility than the con artists at Xooma.


-----Original Message-----
From: Langley Public Inquiries [mailto:public-inquiries@larc.nasa.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 12:28 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [portal] Xooma claims propped up with the good name of NASA?

Dear Terry,

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. NASA Langley
Research Center, is a field center of the government agency, the
National Aeronautics and Space Administration. NASA does not endorse
commercial products. This claim is being forwarded to our legal staff
for investigation.


>
>Comments: Hello
>I hope you can help me with my research. Xooma are invoking the
>prestige of NASA to support what I think are highly dubious claims
>about their products. Here is a quote:
>
>"ORP Testing:
>Xooma X2O has also been tested by an independent laboratory located
>in the NASA Langley Research Center. "
>http://xoomaworlwide.blogspot.com/20...-needs-it.html
>
>You'll notice they refer to an unnamed 'independent lab". Are you
>able to tell me if any such testing has been done? I gather that the
>ORP test is no big deal and it can be achieved on a $200 instrument.
>Any feedback would be welcome. I'm sick of seeing my friends and
>family being conned by MLM scammers.
>
>Kind regards
>Terry

[rodneyoz]

G'day HelpMe,

Yeah, it's partly about buying a sachet of "minerals" to increase the ph level of the ***** you are drinking. Trouble is, if you are drinking 2 litres of ***** (as we are supposed to do) and the sachet only "improves" a 600ml. Well, at $1 or more, to achieve any real reduction of your acidic levels then you would need to use a sachet in every 600 mls you drink, otherwise you aren't doing any good.

To me, not only is the logical science flawed, once again it is, MLM and that makes Zero for 90% of people.

Good Luck

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by rodneyoz

Here's what I did about Xooma.

Hi (Name Deleted),

About 6 weeks ago (Name Deleted) gave me a sample pack of the X20 sachets. I had my doubts about the claims being made so I bought a ph testing kit and spent the week testing the ***** before and after I had added a sachet. As expected, there was no increase in the ph level or alkalinity of the *****.

Not to be discouraged I sent away for some body fluid ph testing strips (the previous kit was for swimming pools) and on my last trip to Sydney purchased a months supply of X20 at a cost of $50.00. So I've been testing the tap ***** before and after adding the sachets, I've been testing my urine at various times during the days to monitor any changes, I've tested my saliva at various times during the days and I've even tested my blood (cut myself shaving) for changes in the ph levels.

Well, as interesting as it has been I have unfortunately not been able to find any support for the claims made in the promotional material for X20. Not one of the more than 50 samples showed any increase in ph that could be attributed to X20.

If you can show me otherwise, like a practical demonstration, or at least some verifiable independent testing results I would be willing to promote the product. As it stands at the moment I don't feel very supportive of the product and have the opinion that it is less of a product and more of an MLM sham.

I have no doubt that there are people making money from Xooma and X20 but is it for the right reasons, one other X20 distributor I contacted in Sydney had virtually no idea of how the product should be used, but he was quite willing to sign me up or sell me product.

Of course, I would happily accept a refund of my $50.00.

Thanks,

Rod.

as yet I have not received any reply, Geez, what a surprise.

Here's a reply,
First of all take a breath and relax. You need to follow instructions firstly.
You're testing blood and urine.. the pH test strips are to go in your mouth to test saliva not blood and urine.

And you're using tap *****.. I'm sure you are aware that's got chlorine and all sorts of dissolved metal solids in it. Use reverse osmosis ***** prefferably or spring *****, otherwise it's only going to purify and work on the ***** not your body. I've been using it properly and i does everything it says it does. And with a ph tester it's reading between 9.9 and 10.1

And anything in the world will attract money hungry people who don't care about anything else. He doesn't represent everyone. Bottom line is tap *****'s not too flash and test your saliva my tests show up in the 7 to 7.5 end of scale.

Robbie

[starryknight]

Originally Posted by Robbie

Here's a reply,
First of all take a breath and relax. You need to follow instructions firstly.
You're testing blood and urine.. the pH test strips are to go in your mouth to test saliva not blood and urine.

And you're using tap *****.. I'm sure you are aware that's got chlorine and all sorts of dissolved metal solids in it. Use reverse osmosis ***** prefferably or spring *****, otherwise it's only going to purify and work on the ***** not your body. I've been using it properly and i does everything it says it does. And with a ph tester it's reading between 9.9 and 10.1

And anything in the world will attract money hungry people who don't care about anything else. He doesn't represent everyone. Bottom line is tap *****'s not too flash and test your saliva my tests show up in the 7 to 7.5 end of scale.

Robbie

I would be curious to know what your body ph was before you started using Xooma. I suspect everyone is different. I think some people just either have a naturally, slightly alkaline system and others have a slightly acidic system and I don't think drinking Xooma ***** changes that. At least that was my experience. I followed the instructions and used only filtered *****. I, as many did, also tested the alkalinity of the ***** after putting in a sachet. There was no change. I mentioned that to my upline and he just laughed and told me it doesn't work like that. "It's not supposed to make the ***** more alkaline, only the body after it is ingested". Also, my body ph test strips will check both saliva and urine....says so on the instructions. I am wondering if there isn't something else different in people's lifestyles that may be changing their ph levels, giving them the benefit of the doubt that it's really happening.

[Janset]

My family has used Xooma for close on 4 months now - husband's cholesterol has gone from high to normal, his tinnitus has gone and no more acid reflux so you tell me if it is a scam! I am now considering marketing it myself and to the person who stated is was a 2 - wide Matrix.. WRONG! Width is indefinite! If you wish to learn more without the hyperbole, do please contact me. Details are available. Janet

[starryknight]

Janet,

Perhaps I'm not reading what is on the website right, but I believe the matrix is limited and the only way to increase the width is to open up another membership. Please look at the following link:

http://www.xoomaworldwide.com/compPlan.asp

[silentjoe]

Xooma has NEVER stated that NASA tested there product. They state that it was tested in a NASA APPROVED TESTING FACILITY.

Exact Quote as on there page:
Xooma X2O has also been tested by an independent laboratory located in the NASA Langley Research Center. The degree of "negativity" of an ORP reading is an indicator of how bioavailable and bioabsorbable a product will be in your body. The lower the test reading, the more ions are available for your body's metabolic functions. X2O is the only product of it's kind to register "minus" readings on the ORP meter; a huge benefit over the other products tested.

People really need to read and comprehend before speaking out. Please read again. AN INDEPENDANT LABORATORY LOCATED IN NASA LANGLEY RESEARCH CENTER.

I use the product, I like it.

I have a serious acid reflux problem, or at least I use to. I use to take the "Purple Pill" and since I have been using Xooma, I can eat my favorite foods again without waking up at night choking on my stomach acid. The purple pill did not work and I have even stopped taking it. I've been on Xooma for 4 months now and its cheaper and has more benefits than some chemically crafted medicine made by man.

Natural Coral Calcium or Man Made Drug? Not a hard choice for me anymore.

Do I like the product? yes. Is it for everyone? No.

If you dont know a subject, then keep the pie hole shut. Its that simple.

Bye Bye Purple Pill, Hello Green Box. :)

Full product information if anyone is truly interested in reading the claimed facts and want to do there due dillegence:

http://www.xoomaworldwide.com/prodInfo.asp

-SJ

[psiloscope]

Originally Posted by silentjoe

Xooma has NEVER stated that NASA tested there product. They state that it was tested in a NASA APPROVED TESTING FACILITY.

Exact Quote as on there page:
Xooma X2O has also been tested by an independent laboratory located in the NASA Langley Research Center. The degree of "negativity" of an ORP reading is an indicator of how bioavailable and bioabsorbable a product will be in your body. The lower the test reading, the more ions are available for your body's metabolic functions. X2O is the only product of it's kind to register "minus" readings on the ORP meter; a huge benefit over the other products tested.

People really need to read and comprehend before speaking out. Please read again. AN INDEPENDANT LABORATORY LOCATED IN NASA LANGLEY RESEARCH CENTER.

I use the product, I like it.

I have a serious acid reflux problem, or at least I use to. I use to take the "Purple Pill" and since I have been using Xooma, I can eat my favorite foods again without waking up at night choking on my stomach acid. The purple pill did not work and I have even stopped taking it. I've been on Xooma for 4 months now and its cheaper and has more benefits than some chemically crafted medicine made by man.

Natural Coral Calcium or Man Made Drug? Not a hard choice for me anymore.

Do I like the product? yes. Is it for everyone? No.

If you dont know a subject, then keep the pie hole shut. Its that simple.

Bye Bye Purple Pill, Hello Green Box. :)

Full product information if anyone is truly interested in reading the claimed facts and want to do there due dillegence:

http://www.xoomaworldwide.com/prodInfo.asp

-SJ

Hey Silentjoe, you're not referring to my previous post are you? You must be referring to Curtis, right? Curtis is a big fan of Xooma because he thinks that it's NASA tested. In my post I let Curtis know that NASA are not happy with Xooma invoking their good name as part of the Xooma advertising. As you rightly point out with your semantic argument, Xooma haven't actually said that NASA have tested the product. Yet Xooma have been deliberately misleading. Why did Xooma feel it necessary to invoke the NASA name at all? Why not just say "tested by an independent laboratory"? It wouldn't have quite the same impact, now would it? It's quite sneaky and it's transparently obvious that Xooma have cynically invoked the scientific aura of NASA to help push their junk. Look how it fooled Curtis! It's just what Xooma advertising execs want us to believe.

Oh and before you talk about shutting pieholes perhaps you should take your own advice and read and comprehend before speaking out.

[JustAnotherPerson]

Just thought I’d pass this along for anyone who cares.

An acquaintance of mine recently showed signs of being in a better financial situation. When I asked about it he was reluctant to tell me because he knows how I HATE MLM businesses. He told me he has been promoting a partnership businesses centered around Xooma X2O product. I checked out the website and discovered someone was finally being up front about what they were doing. The website is from a group of Xooma MLM distributors who are promoting the business strictly as a business, not as a health gimmick. It actually made a lot of sense from a business standpoint, and it is obviously working for him.

I can’t believe I’m giving in to MLM but I’m actually joining the business. After seeing the business I couldn’t pass it up because they have eliminated the part that I despise about MLM – pushing product onto people. I’m ordering the product as part of the business but what the heck – even if it doesn’t make me healthier, it certainly isn’t going to hurt me. And if it’s doing this well for him – I’M IN!

I was looking for more information about Xooma and ran across this post so I thought I’d throw in my 2 cents worth. If you’re looking for something else to slam, or just want to know what the business take is all about, you can check it out at www.XoomaSystem.com. In the mean time if I discover anything negative you can bet I’ll be posting it!

[shynnagh]

I have a few things to say as to the science of mister Curtis' experiment. Well, where to start...as a recent graduate in the biological sciences, I've performed my fair share of scientific experiments. It is interesting that Curtis experienced some kind of "positive", but unconfirmed, results. The first thing I wondered when I read that was whether or not the same results would have been achieved in he'd simply increased the amount of ***** he was drinking. Seems like a much cheaper alternative and something he could have, and should have, tried before paying all that money for an unproven product.

Now, before you go spouting all or your "but I feel better" hoo ha at me, don't bother. Unless you have some scientific proof from a published article found in a scientific journal, I don't want to hear it. The company's "testimonials" or "research" are just a bunch of rubbish from dollar-sign-eyed jerks. If you have certified, scientific, proven results from sources OUTSIDE the company's website b.s., please send them to me.

I am a scientist, but I'm also a very sick woman who's in a lot of pain. I would love for this product to be what it says it is and do what it says it can, but trust me, I've seen it and heard it all before. That's why it makes me so angry. Not everyone out there is armed with a sharp mind and the desire to research the product claims. It's WRONG for companies to make money selling expensive garbage to SICK people. If any of you out there reading this are doing just that, shame, misfortune, and death-by-diarrhea be a plague to you.

*In through the nose....out through the mouth* Ok, time for bed.

Shynnagh

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This business has attracted factory workers, corporate employees, small business owners, Stay-at-Home moms and even CEO's such as myself from other companies. I have found the integrity of this organization to be top notch.

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[shynnagh]

Gee Ed, your post was so, so....useless, rubbish, and NOT AT ALL going to make you any money I'm sure. Hold on while I vomit on your trousers. Please tell me you all DON'T buy into this garbage. If it is too good to be true, IT IS! Go to school, get a degree and get yourself a good fulfilling job, or just open your own honest business.

Shynnagh

[starryknight]

Well, folks, looks like another scam unfolding in our midst???maybe??? I got something in my email today and had to check it out. I gave them a bogus email address so it would redirect me to their website. As such, I'm not sure the below link will work.

http://myworldplus.com/home

Basically, this company is in a prelaunch and will go online soon. It sells discount cards offering dismal discounts to thousands of retailers across the country. I checked out some of the discounts and found I could get the same deals with various coupons already distributed in my local newspaper and valpaks I get in my mail. I hope nobody is fool enough to actually think they are getting a one-of-a-kind opportunity here!

[X2Oman]

Actually Xooma and the X2O is not a scam but a quality product that truly is blessing for many. Gatorade does not do the same thing and gatorade does not pay you for referring others.
Look folks mlm is not all bad if you know what your doing and remember to focus on helping people. With anything you must due your due diligence to check out everything, just like a traditional business on the street.
To be apart of Xooma all it requires is $25.00 a month for a months supply of the X2O Xtreme ***** enhancer and yes there is an opportunity that can help you to help others or just to help yourself with better health. :)
My website is: http://www.***********X2O.com

If you truly understood the marketing of networking you would see it is exactly like telling someone about your favorite restaurant only difference is that with networking you get rewarded in more ways for sharing with others.
With me this is not all about money, but blessing others. So be blessed.

[Kissyfur85]

Originally Posted by shynnagh

I have a few things to say as to the science of mister Curtis' experiment. Well, where to start...as a recent graduate in the biological sciences, I've performed my fair share of scientific experiments. It is interesting that Curtis experienced some kind of "positive", but unconfirmed, results. The first thing I wondered when I read that was whether or not the same results would have been achieved in he'd simply increased the amount of ***** he was drinking. Seems like a much cheaper alternative and something he could have, and should have, tried before paying all that money for an unproven product.

Now, before you go spouting all or your "but I feel better" hoo ha at me, don't bother. Unless you have some scientific proof from a published article found in a scientific journal, I don't want to hear it. The company's "testimonials" or "research" are just a bunch of rubbish from dollar-sign-eyed jerks. If you have certified, scientific, proven results from sources OUTSIDE the company's website b.s., please send them to me.

I am a scientist, but I'm also a very sick woman who's in a lot of pain. I would love for this product to be what it says it is and do what it says it can, but trust me, I've seen it and heard it all before. That's why it makes me so angry. Not everyone out there is armed with a sharp mind and the desire to research the product claims. It's WRONG for companies to make money selling expensive garbage to SICK people. If any of you out there reading this are doing just that, shame, misfortune, and death-by-diarrhea be a plague to you.

*In through the nose....out through the mouth* Ok, time for bed.

Shynnagh

You say you have seen and heard it all, and are positive this product won't help you, but have you bothered to try it? I am a 29 year old female, and live in Arkansas. Our little group of people here in my town have had tremendous success with the product. Some of the various results our group has seen are as follows: One gentleman went completely off his high blood pressure medicine after drinking the X20 product for about a month. A lady that has MS has went from having 5 or 6 "hot spots" to having no activity at all in about 3 months. I personally used to have daily major sinus headaches, which after a month or so of doing the product, I have had maybe 2 headaches, my severe acid reflux is very much reduced, my depression symptoms are much less severe than before, and adding the Metabwize product that is offered by Xooma, I have lost 71 pounds in 3 months, in a perfectly healthy way. A gentleman with diabetes had a very bad case of neuropathy (which is where you loose almost all feeling in your feet, and they tingle or hurt all the time when you do have feeling) His neuropathy has completely went away. Our local football coach has the high school teams here drinking the *****, it helps lessen their aches and pains from the hard work of practice, gives them better stamina and all around feel better. A young boy here had major lung problems, he would try to play basketball, and just running up and down the court once or twice would see him running outside to throw up. The specialist they went to told him his lungs were essentially dying. After a couple of months on X20, his lungs cleared up, and when they went back to the doctor, he said I don't know what you've been doing, but your lungs are actually healing on their own now. The testimonies you read and say are such garbage are not posted because of anything to do with money, but is their own actual experiences . The person who bought the ph tester, you must actually read all the info available. X20 works best in fresh distilled *****, if you buy bottled *****, check the date on it, bottled ***** has a shelf life of 2 years, and most you buy is already 2 years old. If the ***** is older than about 6 months, the plastic it sits in starts to break down and contaminate the *****. If you test plain fresh distilled ***** and then add the X20, shake it for about 15 seconds and let it sit about 5 minutes, as the directions state, then you should get a result of around 9 or 10 on the ph scale of your *****. As far as your body ph testing, you have to keep in mind, you must completely give up soda and things like that with very high acidic content. One 12 ounce soda takes about 32 bottles of X20 ***** to counteract. The ph scale goes from 0-14. Your body requires a constant ph of 7.265 to live, and it leaches calcium, minerals and such from your organs and bones to keep it at that level. On that scale, a regular soda is a 2 and a diet soda is a 1.5. Beer is around a 4. The X20 sachet not only has the coral calcium in it, but about 70 trace minerals including manganese, zinc, calcium, potassium, magnesium, iron, iodine, flouride, chromium, and several more. This coral calcium is harvested from a coral reef off of Okinawa. The people there have their ***** filtered through this same coral, and the cancer rate in Japan is less than one percent, even though they smoke more than Americans. There is just so much more to say about all this, but for all of you who are so set on bashing things, you probably won't pay attention and will make nasty remarks about it. All I can say is I feel very sorry for you, and hope someday you will care more about your health and be willing to give this a try.

[sincera]

I'm not a scientist, nor a bio-chemist. I can't do tests, and I don't know all those medical terms.

Just something I would like to share out of sincerity. No offence to anyone.

My friend's father had a relapse early this year. It was cancer. This time, the doctor said it was serious and he had only 1 month to live. My friend never gave up though. After all the medication her father had been taking, his legs were all swollen. ***** retention due to the acidic of the medication and cancerous cells, the doctor said. And they couldn't do anything about it, he had to live with it. How sad.

My friend sent her father to a nutritionist then, eventhough it couldn't cure him, just to make his life more comfortable. He was then drinking the alkaline ***** from the nutritionist, and one week later, his legs were back to normal. No more ***** retention, no more swell. His body pain was obviously reduced as well. He survived for another 4 months while the doctor said 1 month. However, he lost the battle 2 months ago.

It's something for you to judge.

[conundrum]

It's WRONG for companies to make money selling expensive garbage to SICK people. If any of you out there reading this are doing just that, shame, misfortune, and death-by-diarrhea be a plague to you.

Geez don't say that if that actually happened we would be left with out politicians the military and our current health system no more pharmaceuticals and in suits ! Now what kind of world would we have if those guys didn't exist ?

http://web.mac.com/len15/iWeb/health...20Trailer.html

Or alternatively try this it works cerbe.com

[rosebeds]

Oh Geesh you people have too much time on your hands and wasting too much ****** on trying to discredit a company, I bet if you check in here every known work at home business legitimate or otherwise are all in here labelled as scams and by people who have never had any experience with a certain company or have ever tried the industry for themselves, they just have nothing better to do than to surf around the site and give their invalid opinions on things, get a life, if you want to stay away from the industry, then stay away stick to your dead end 9 - 5 jobs and stop trying to bad mouth the industry, this is a trillion dollar industry and it is contributing to the economy as messed up as it is right now and a lot of these companies are listed on the stock exchange, billionaires are even investing in this industry because they see it is a prime money making business and that is why a lot of peole get in it because they want to improve their way of life financially and it's always the lazy ass people who sit back and do nothing and expect to magically make money they are the ones that go around and label good companies as scam and discourage other people who are hard working and willing to put in the hours to make it successful from potentially joining the industry and making a better life for themselves. With everything there are risks if you don't take a chance in life you will never succeed and that is what seperates the wealthy from the poor, the wealthy are willing to take risks to make money, look at all the billionaires out there they all took risks to get where they are now.
And who gives a crap if a product doesn't do what it says, look at all the prescribed drugs or over the counter drugs that proports that they do this and they do that, how come I don't see you guys doing research on all those crap medications that are being sold to millions by other companies who are public, go test their product see how much better theirs are, you all use them every day with no questions asked, so what's the deal, people join the industry mostly to make money to better their lives some don't even use the products at all, so who cares really, ( It's a work at home industry, not products for a cure at home industry) if it works great if not boohooo, who cares.

[cabici]

Hi, I'm new to this site so forgive me if this comment posts with any weird errors lol!

Anyway, it was very interesting to read all the comments above regarding Xooma. I must say, the business plan is not my thing, but none of that tier type selling is.

The actual product though, I found it to be really really good. I don't use it anymore because it was expensive and I got lazy after 6 months... you believe it, even dropping a bag into a bottle of ***** gets boring! Anyway, the results for me was that in the first week I had heightened back pain in my muscles. I wonder if this was all the dehydrated cells finally getting their fill of ionic *****, then...
I had so much ******, my skin looked fresher, my desire to smoke decreased, I lost a couple of kilos, actually probably 4. I wasn't too fat, maybe 60kg, and went down to 56. My ****** levels increased very noticably too!

So, is this all directly related to just drinking more *****, I don't really think so because I have always been on a minimum of 2.5 to 4 litres a day... all I can say is, I rate this product highly and would recommend you give it a go for longer than the sample pack, maybe a month, and then re-evaluate your thoughts on it.

Cheers!

[jonnhouston]

I have been involved with Xooma since it's inception in May 2005, and I can honestly say, the product is for real and the company does not make unsupported claims. Comments in this thread suggesting that the company says that the product kills bacteria and viruses are simply not true. Xooma does not publish such claims.

There is good information at http://x2oproducts.com/xoomanet if you are interested in learning more.

[rameshkumar01]

Hi I never heard about “Xooma" Please do more posting. So that i can understand it.

[jonnhouston]

Originally Posted by rameshkumar01

Hi I never heard about “Xooma" Please do more posting. So that i can understand it.

Hi, a lot of people have never heard of Xooma Worldwide - it was founded in May 2005 and is a fully owned subsidiary of a company called Health Through Nutrition, or HTN. HTN was founded in 1992. Both HTN and Xooma are financially solid, debt free companies and offer high quality health products.

There is good information here at this link if you are interested in learning more:

http://x2oproducts.com

[rameshkumar01]

Originally Posted by jonnhouston

Hi, a lot of people have never heard of Xooma Worldwide - it was founded in May 2005 and is a fully owned subsidiary of a company called Health Through Nutrition, or HTN. HTN was founded in 1992. Both HTN and Xooma are financially solid, debt free companies and offer high quality health products.

There is good information here at this link if you are interested in learning more:

http://x2oproducts.com/xoomanet

Thanks for the reply and link.Now i am little bit familiar with Xooma

[richboy]

The one thing that turned me off about Xooma was the discourteous customer service coupled with the fact that if you somehow miss the monthly subscription, you lose everything. Everything is mercilessly erased and lost including your position, your downline, your commissions, and everything you worked so hard for.
You have to start all over from scratch.

[jonnhouston]

Hi Richboy, thanks for your comment. You do not loose your position if you miss one payment, all you have to do is reestablish within the next 30 days and you will not loose anything.

Of course, this is a business, you cannot choose to come in and out of the business and expect to be successful. If you are committed to doing the business, you need to be responsible and make your monthly minimum, which is only about $30 a month.

Plus, I have always found the customer service to be friendly and helpful, not sure what you are talking about there.

Cheers!

[richboy]

What if the customer misses 2 months in a row?

What happens then?

Do they (Xooma) give the customer the benefit of the doubt?

With melaleuca, the customer can come back after six months of not ordering and not only order again but still keep all that they have.

At least there (melaleuca), the customer does not feel like there is a noose being held around his or her neck.

[madman71]

hey shit bax mom.. have u even tried the xooma product ? yep thats what i thought.. until u have tried the product.. u might wanna shut your fucking sewer hole up

[Kristine]

To be honest I was really skeptical about this product, especially because of its pyramid advertising scheme, which has all the hallmarks of a scam. But I decided to try because of a strong recommendation from a friend who said that all sorts of health problems disappeared after she started using Xooma.

So this is my experience … after using the sachets as recommended in the *****, I emptied the contents and used it as a scrub for my face. After about 10 days of daily use my skin irritation totally disappeared, which I had been battling for several years and seen numerous doctors without success. Now I have been using Xooma for about 2 months and just recently noticed that I have not been taking the medication for acid reflux and feel just fine.

This product definitely works and people who have not actually tried it are in no position to comment. The distribution scheme is a shame, though, because it creates an impression of a scam!