Good Network Marketing / MLM you have worked with?

[RedCourt]

I'm just a little curious what Network Marketing / MLM companies people on this board have worked with or had / are having good experiences with. With as much knowledge is together in this group there have got to be some that are going well for people, I'd like to know what they are... call it morbid curiosity after a personal failure.

[ohein56]

There are many great companies to choose from out there. Some represented here, though not that many, you'd be surprised. There are heeps of scams to weed through here. They have their own distinct chatter. Once you get used to it they almost jump out at yo after a while & are easy to spot.

I'd recommend mine for starters!

Is that spamming?!

I don't want to even go there...

Here's a great site or two to help you discern for yourself, the right company for you. If you find that, I think it will make ALL the difference.

Also, as you're looking around at the various product & services ask yourself this; "Would anyone realistically ever purchase this product or service without participating in the income opportunity?". That should help you weed through most of the crappy ones, they never seem to make it through that 'test' very well. That's a start.

Here's the site's I recommend for whittling apart your learninig curve.

Let me know if you'd like more free resources that'll give you a more objective, realistic view of MLM.

www.firstclassmlm.com & www.marketwaveinc.com

If you'd like some info on my company, SendOutCards, email me and I'll contact you.

Hang in there!

There are three things you must do in order to become wealthy. You must have the right mindset, discover your purpose in life, and find a business that expresses that purpose.

~ Andy Fuehl

Welcome to the forum, redcourt.

Kerry

PS, what happened your first time in the MLM *****, if I may ask?

[Golfer44]

Originally Posted by RedCourt

I'm just a little curious what Network Marketing / MLM companies people on this board have worked with or had / are having good experiences with. With as much knowledge is together in this group there have got to be some that are going well for people, I'd like to know what they are... call it morbid curiosity after a personal failure.

There isn't a MLM that is successful.

It's not a failure on your end as it is a failure of the model to begin with.

Of course, the people trying to recruit you will try to persuade you differently.

Just remember, why do you want to recruit additional people to sell the same product you sell? It doesn't make any sense and is the reason why 95% of greater of the people involved in MLM fail.

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

There isn't a MLM that is successful.

It's not a failure on your end as it is a failure of the model to begin with.

Of course, the people trying to recruit you will try to persuade you differently.

Just remember, why do you want to recruit additional people to sell the same product you sell? It doesn't make any sense and is the reason why 95% of greater of the people involved in MLM fail.

Redcourt,

Is that what you'd call a 'bad attitude'? I certainly would.

Now, at least you know what a narrow-minded, negative, clueless anti-MLM zealot sounds like. There are others here, don't be surprised. Golfer's almost funny. His negative postion is hard for him to defend, as are the others, so don't expect much resistance if you take a stand. His bark is much bigger than his bite. He thinks like several others here, that ALL MLM's are illegal pyramids, that will saturate the entire marketplace any day now. Which is baloney, of course.

Never allow anyone to rain on your parade and thus cast a pall of gloom and defeat on the entire day. Remember that no talent, no self-denial, no brains, no character, are required to set up in the fault-finding business. Nothing external can have any ***** over you unless you permit it. Your time is too precious to be sacrificed in wasted days combating the menial forces of hate, jealously, and envy. Guard your fragile life carefully. Only God can shape a flower, but any foolish child can pull it to pieces.

~ Og Mandino

Keep your blinders on & pay it forward,

Kerry

[Golfer44]

Wow Kerry. Again, you stoop to name calling and insults. Who is the negative person? How ironic.

Redcourt, do you really want to go into business with someone that flys off the handle when the truth is told and tries to discredit those that expose him?

Be careful with your money. I have no interest in your money and it would be wise to listen to those who are trying to shed light on this miserable investment of time and money.

[ChrisDoyle]

Hi Redcourt. Best to do your own investigations, rather than listen to people like Golfer. He's good entertainment though, he always gives us a laugh.

Network marketing/MLM is a $100 billion business, operating in pretty well every country in the world, and Golfer says NONE of them are successful. LOL, I'll let you make your own mind up on that one.

I'm with Vitamark International, one of many SUCCESSFUL MLM companies!
Pm me if you would like any questions answered.

[jebaroo]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Redcourt, do you really want to go into business with someone that flys off the handle when the truth is told and tries to discredit those that expose him?

when the truth is told?

Originally Posted by Golfer44

There isn't a MLM that is successful.
It's not a failure on your end as it is a failure of the model to begin with..

first you say that no mlm is successful

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Just remember, why do you want to recruit additional people to sell the same product you sell? It doesn't make any sense and is the reason why 95% of greater of the people involved in MLM fail.

then you say 95% fail....i thought 100% failed?

Also I got a call from another insurance agent today trying to recruit me to sell the same product she sells.....doesn't make sense does it?

[travelingman]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Redcourt, do you really want to go into business with someone that flys off the handle when the truth is told and tries to discredit those that expose him?

Oh beacon of truth, what truth would you be making reference too? Your statement of "There isn't a MLM that is successful" simply could not be further from the truth! I continue to wait for your reply to my inquiry that has been posed to you for some time now. Allow me to remind you:
Would you be kind enough to start with Avon, Tupperware, Mary Kay, and "Warren Buffett's" Pampered Chef and educate us all on the nature of their scam?

[Golfer44]

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

[Bruceinvt]

I don't know much about MLMs in general but I would say all the travel ones are pretty much scams. 90% of their members fail and lose money.

[ChrisDoyle]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

LOL. Good one!

[jebaroo]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

what 4 would that be?

[Successful Dad]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

There isn't a MLM that is successful.

It's not a failure on your end as it is a failure of the model to begin with.

Of course, the people trying to recruit you will try to persuade you differently.

Just remember, why do you want to recruit additional people to sell the same product you sell? It doesn't make any sense and is the reason why 95% of greater of the people involved in MLM fail.

Hmmm

so let's if you want to be a doctor...don't...too many of them.

same for a lawyer, computer programmer & dancer.

I can't sell cars...too many of those guys.

What is a body to do?

SD

[Successful Dad]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

Do you mean like when I went in to the mall to buy a suit...before I got there the manager was reprimanding several employees. as soon as I walked through the door they all smiled at me (fake ones).

I bought from one though...should I have told the others to quit their job because the one I bought from had the market covered?

Then should I have gone to the other stores that sell the same suit and told them to close their door because they were over saturating this business in the mall?

Hmmmm

[travelingman]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

Golfer your agenda is so totally transparent. Now, back to those pesky questions.........Would you be kind enough to start with Avon, Tupperware, Mary Kay, and "Warren Buffett's" Pampered Chef and educate us all on the nature of their scam?

[jebaroo]

Originally Posted by Successful Dad

Hmmm

so let's if you want to be a doctor...don't...too many of them.

same for a lawyer, computer programmer & dancer.

I can't sell cars...too many of those guys.

What is a body to do?

SD

Hey SD, go outside and drop a brick on your little toe.

That will be easier ( and alot less pain ) than trying to have the discussion you are trying to have with golfer.

I had a similar conversation with golfer regarding the Life Insurance industry. It became too frustrating to try to have a conversation with someone that will not answer questions or read your answer to his questions

good luck

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

This is the problem Redcourt. This gang of 4 MLMers are quick to come to each others aid on this site and discredit those that expose them.

Again, I have no interest in your money and you would be better spending your time being productive in legitimate business that doesn't rely on recruiting.

I have nothing to gain, but helping my fellow man avoid the pitfalls / inefficiencies / SCAMs of MLM.

Of course, they don't want to lose a potential sale. :-)

Avoid their traps that are glossed over with fake smiles and false pretenses. Good luck.

By lying to the uninformed! How does that help anyone?, Golfer! Telling big ugly lies helps noone!

The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else.

~ George Bernard Shaw

Kerry

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by jebaroo

Hey SD, go outside and drop a brick on your little toe.

That will be easier ( and alot less pain ) than trying to have the discussion you are trying to have with golfer.

I had a similar conversation with golfer regarding the Life Insurance industry. It became too frustrating to try to have a conversation with someone that will not answer questions or read your answer to his questions

good luck

JB, what Golfer's doing, it's called Anti-MLM zealotry.

And no, Golfer, I'm not name calling, I'm simply stating observations & facts.

Kerry

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by jebaroo

when the truth is told?



first you say that no mlm is successful



then you say 95% fail....i thought 100% failed?

Also I got a call from another insurance agent today trying to recruit me to sell the same product she sells.....doesn't make sense does it?

Ab-So-Lute-Ly!



Kerry

[Golfer44]

Wow!

I guess I stepped on some toes heavily. :-)

Don't you guys have better things to be doing?

Such as flashing nice homes, cars, money, or independence to your next potential recruit?

[travelingman]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Wow!

I guess I stepped on some toes heavily. :-)

Don't you guys have better things to be doing?

Such as flashing nice homes, cars, money, or independence to your next potential recruit?

Not so much that Golfer as much as you fully exposed yourself as a hypocrite! You claim to be the beacon of truth, but flat out lie when it suits your agenda......now.....those questions?

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by Golfer44

I guess I stepped on some toes heavily. :-)

No, we just don't like people like you, lying to people that don't know any better.

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Don't you guys have better things to be doing?

Obviously not! What business is it of yours what we do with our time, regardless?! By the way, you're posting here too, what gives?!

Originally Posted by Golfer44

Such as flashing nice homes, cars, money, or independence to your next potential recruit?

Gee, those are just horrible things to imply, aren't they!?

Kerry

[Tush]

The word "good network marketing companies is relative". This depends on the person. What is good for me may not be good for another person. The problem with us network marketers is that we are taught that the company we represent is the best. The scam step is to look out for scam indicators. Here are some tips:http://www.breathtaking-network-marketing-secrets.com/mlm-scams.html

There are many good companies with wonderful products. Depending on your interest, you choose one that suites you. This page explains why there are no "best network marketing". You will also find a list of the most popular companies. It will help you see the most friendly ones.
http://www.breathtaking-network-marketing-secrets.com/top-network-marketing-companies.html

My favourite two are sendoutcards and quest international. I love sendoutcards because of my personality.. I just like sending cards. I used to spend lots of time and money before I learnt about this tool. Now I make money as I send my cards

I like quest because of their products, no autorder, has been arond for 10 years and it is a good fit for people in developing countries.

I hope that helps

Tush

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by Tush

The word "good network marketing companies is relative". This depends on the person. What is good for me may not be good for another person. The problem with us network marketers is that we are taught that the company we represent is the best. The scam step is to look out for scam indicators. Here are some tips:http://www.breathtaking-network-marketing-secrets.com/mlm-scams.html

There are many good companies with wonderful products. Depending on your interest, you choose one that suites you. This page explains why there are no "best network marketing". You will also find a list of the most popular companies. It will help you see the most friendly ones.
http://www.breathtaking-network-marketing-secrets.com/top-network-marketing-companies.html

My favourite two are sendoutcards and quest international. I love sendoutcards because of my personality.. I just like sending cards. I used to spend lots of time and money before I learnt about this tool. Now I make money as I send my cards

I like quest because of their products, no autorder, has been arond for 10 years and it is a good fit for people in developing countries.

I hope that helps

Tush

Great post Tush! Sorry it was overlooked by me.

Hope to see more of your stuff around here. This forum could use some more hype free, ethical marketers.

A leader is a person who consistently demonstrates what’s possible. A follower is a person who consistently observes leaders, then forms a small group and talks about what’s possible. Followers talk. Leaders act.

~ Mark Yarnell

Long live ethical NWM!

Kerry

[Tush]

Originally Posted by ohein56

Great post Tush! Sorry it was overlooked by me.

Hope to see more of your stuff around here. This forum could use some more hype free, ethical marketers.



Long live ethical NWM!

Kerry

Kerry, thanx for the compliment. It took me soo long to work on my mindset and unlearn our traditional methods. I am still learning. You know old habits diehard It is so amazing how network marketing can be rewarding if you know how to do it, ie without hype and high pressure sales tactics.

Thanks too for your guidance.
Tush

[ohein56]

Originally Posted by Tush

Kerry, thanx for the compliment. It took me soo long to work on my mindset and unlearn our traditional methods. I am still learning. You know old habits diehard It is so amazing how network marketing can be rewarding if you know how to do it, ie without hype and high pressure sales tactics.

Thanks too for your guidance.
Tush

Glad to be of some assistance.

Any old time!

Build it big!

Kerry