Internet Business-In-A-Box/Mining Gold Corporation

[PAYEK]

I haven't found anything on scam.com about this....but maybe I just overlooked it.
Anyway, I have received several of these emails (all from different people w/the same contact info). Just wondering if anyone knows anything about this??!!
************************************************** ******
.........Here's a copy of part of one email (they all state the same):



Here's a quick way to get started online and
it won't cost you a single thin dime!

Even though I've helped over 100,000 to unlock the secrets
of raking in cash online, I'm always testing new ideas.
So...
For a very limited time as part of a marketing test,
I'll give you my Internet Business-In-A-Box
that retails for $497. That's right. Your cost is
zero...zip...zilch.
Go here now to grab your gratis copy of my Internet
Business-In-A-Box before this limited test ends:

(then it gives a link)

Shawn Casey
Mining Gold Corporation
20533 Biscayne Boulevard, No. 484
Aventura, FL 33180

[FairTradeAuthority]

Shawn Casey is a very reputable Internet marketer and most people would call him a marketing guru. I don't know what was the link on that email and if that email was unsolicited, but about the content, i can say that Mr. Casey has never been associated with scams or frauds and if you google him you can see that he is almost as popular as Bill Gates...If you like what you are going to buy, i couldn't see any risk of being scammed by Mr. Casey. Just verify that the email is not phishing or spoofing and that is not unsolicited and that it is really about Mr. Casey stuff.

[PAYEK]

FairTrade, thanks for the info. I read your post & decided to go ahead & get my free "once in a lifetime" offer....

After I signed up for that .. it sent me to another offer page.
Not sure if I'm going to do this part of it or not.

Anyway, thanks..just thought you'd like an update on what links I was sent to after I signed up for the "freebie"! It looks like great info!! Plus, 100% $$ back gaurantee.........



******************THIS IS THE OFFER I GOT*********************


YES! I want to discover Shawn's million dollar strategies. Please give me immediate access to the digital version of "How To Quickly And Easily Create A Wildly Profitable Internet Business".

I know there’s no time to lose because this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to grab this kit (and the incredible $2,291 bonus package!) without having to pay $197 like everyone else. Instead, I'll only invest $47 so I'm saving $150!

Because I'm ordering during this one-time-only offer, I qualify to receive the incredible Free Bonus Package Worth $2,291 which includes:

Free Bonus No. 1 - $1,000 in Free Advertising ($1,000 Value).

Free Bonus No. 2 - "How To Get Paid $18,000 Even Before You Ever Create A Product!" ($497 Value)

Free Bonus No. 3 - "Six Figure Secrets: An Expert Attorney Spills His Guts And Reveals The Little Known Secrets To Making - AND Keeping - Your $100,000+ Income!" ($497 Value)

Free Bonus No. 4 - "Insider Goldmine Of Internet Tools, Tips And Techniques To Explode Your Online Business!" ($297 Value)

Shawn's Insane 100% Satisfaction Guarantee

I have Shawn's Insane 100% Satisfaction Guarantee so all the pressure is off. I can use all Shawn's million dollar strategies for 12 months (1 full year!). If, at any time, I'm not ecstatic...for any reason at all, I can just send an email to (link removed by mod) and get a 100% of my money ASAP. No hassle. No questions asked.

Now here's the insane part of this over-the-top guarantee... even if I request a refund, I get to keep the entire course and free bonus package as Shawn's gift to me just for giving it a try! Shawn would have to be insane to make this guarantee if he was not absolutely convinced that I was going to love this course.

Here's my order so I'll be able to download my personal copy of "How To Quickly And Easily Create A Wildly Profitable Internet Business" in just a few minutes.

Please Note: This transaction is 100% secure!

[maxitec]

I tried to do business with Shawn Casey. What I found was below par assistance. He is impossible to reach personally and his "people" do not respond to emails. I took him up on a money-back guaranteed offer and have no way of getting my money back. I did not have a good experience with him. Bottom line is the website he furnished me with was done poorly with most of the links not working or leading to the same other website, his help was non-existant, and his money-back guarantee was non-existant. In addition, if you listen in on his teleconference calls, he is a master at talking for hours and saying nothing at all. Let me know how your experience with him goes. Oh, and be leary of his testimonials. He gets them from his employees.

[PAYEK]

Originally Posted by maxitec

I tried to do business with Shawn Casey. What I found was below par assistance. He is impossible to reach personally and his "people" do not respond to emails. I took him up on a money-back guaranteed offer and have no way of getting my money back. I did not have a good experience with him. Bottom line is the website he furnished me with was done poorly with most of the links not working or leading to the same other website, his help was non-existant, and his money-back guarantee was non-existant. In addition, if you listen in on his teleconference calls, he is a master at talking for hours and saying nothing at all. Let me know how your experience with him goes. Oh, and be leary of his testimonials. He gets them from his employees.

I actually don't have any experience w/him....I backed out. lol (as usual)
Thx for posting your experience though. I was still a little curious.

[caz]

Hi Maxitec and everyone else as well,

Did you have any luck getting your money back? Yours is the first bad review I have found of Shawn Casey and I have searched a lot! Did you listen in to a teleseminar where they told you they would personally coach you and guarantee you to make money? I have been curious to do this myself, so would love to know more. Also why do all the emails write like this....

"I guaran.tee you will make mo.ney" whats with those "."s?

Any more information on this would be appreciated. Also has anyone had any success with this or any other internet marketing product?

Thanks

[BizDoc]

Just one word about the business-in-a-box.

Don't

I paid either $147 or more many months ago. It's gathering dust
because I have yet to figure out what's going on.

He does have a good program for adding the necessary legalize to Web sites
for less than $100. (I think that $97 is the price)

And remember, if you put up a Web site of any type you must have the legalize or you can place yourself in a bad situation.

I don't remember the exact details about the business-in-a-box, but I bought it though an affiliate, and when I decided to ask for a refund, I was never able to re-create that route.

Point: When buying something with a guarantee, except maybe through Clickbank, ALWAYS purchase through the product owner. My policy now is to call the owner and see if #1 they answer the phone and #2 test the support out. If I can't contact support by phone, I think long and hard before buying.

While I'm writing, because I seldom do, let me warn everyone about two other things.

First: Membership programs. Make sure you know who you are dealing with. Several I've joined were rip offs. Plus, I've had problems getting the monthly charges stopped.

I've found that if you join through Paypal, you can go into your Paypal account and withdraw from these membership programs.

If you are into Internet marketing, I know of only one I would recommend. But remember I don't know everything after spending over 4,000 hours trying to make money on the Internet.

Second: Make sure you personally know who you are giving your credit card or debit card number to! I've changed bank accounts four times in the last 18 months to stop people from charging me after I've asked them to.

I've been ripped so many times I'm embarrassed to admit it.

The only solution I've found is to talk to someone in the support department for the vendor, or to the vendor personally ON THE PHONE. If I can't, I no longer buy.

My theory is that if the vendor is not astute enough to have a support person(s) or does not answer the phone themselves, they must become astute enough before I will do business with them.

Side note: Don't buy anything that you are emotional about until at least the next day. Good copywriters can whip you into a buying frenzy. Buy with your brain and not your heart. Make no assumptions about what you are buying. And, only buy from the owner, not an affiliate, and only then if you can contact them by phone.

Bottom line.

I've wasted thousands of dollars and thousands of hours fooling with no good, over priced junk products and people who are not very knowledgeable. If you use this stuff, you usually waste your time and money and find yourself with no-good information overload, running around in circles and getting nowhere.

In my opinion, 90% of information and products offered to help you make money in an Internet business is no good.

My problem was learning who to learn from and who had products that were worth buying. And, I still don't know all I should.

A final conclusion:

First..There is no way for the average person to "get rich" near term.

Second...If you were not a good student in school, you will have a hard time learning how to make money on the Internet because it's a matter of study, study and more study.

There are millions of words to read, comprehend and remember before you can begin to get to where you dream of going. Plus several hundreds of dollars, minimum, even if you knew exactly who to deal with.

My solution:
Finally, I have found a legitimate business I can do from home and it cost me only $25 to get started. There are short term profits and substantial long term earnings potential. Plus, it's the most simple thing I've ever seen.
Even a teenager can do this and do it well.

I've become extremely dubious about these things, but I have found nothing about this to be dubious about.

I'm not going to post it here, but anyone who wants to know what I've found can email me at bizdoc@earthlink.net

Wishing you a healthy, wealthy and successful 2006.
May God bless you and yours,
The Biz Doc

[Model Masters]

I sent the following email, to support@goldwares.com yesterday 1/16/2006

"Hi Shawn,

Well, I paid my $39.95 for "Desperate For Money" today at approximately
10:42 Am PST. The transaction was approved.

So, it is now 7:48 PM PST and I'm still waiting . . .

Can you help?

Thanks,

Bill"

So, here it is today ( 1/17/2006) at 12:32 PM PST and I'm STILL waiting, no product, no email . . .

[caz]

Model Masters did you get it in the end? what are your thoughts?

[D2L]

Thanks for the warning. I just go the e-mail, googled and found this forum.

As they say, when a person with money meets a person with experience, the person with experience ends up with the money and the person with money ends up with an experience! :eek:

[borisf96]

Yours is the first bad review I have found of Shawn Casey and I have searched a lot!

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff145798.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff173663.htm

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.js...=1155210598884

It was not so hard to find

[Stewburner]

I have not had a bad experience with Shawn Casey but have discovered if you go to eBay you can buy 99% of these ebooks and training courses for less than $1.00.

[cneilson]

Originally Posted by caz

Hi Maxitec and everyone else as well,

Did you have any luck getting your money back? Yours is the first bad review I have found of Shawn Casey and I have searched a lot! Did you listen in to a teleseminar where they told you they would personally coach you and guarantee you to make money? I have been curious to do this myself, so would love to know more. Also why do all the emails write like this....

"I guaran.tee you will make mo.ney" whats with those "."s?

Any more information on this would be appreciated. Also has anyone had any success with this or any other internet marketing product?

Thanks

Offhand I'd guess the "."s are to avoid spam filters. A lot of filters let you set keywords for the filter to look for. If it finds them it dumps the email in the spam box. by putting the "."s in, the email can slip past the spam filter unless you've set guaran.tee and/or mo.ney as search terms. That's the only reason I can think of why the email would be set up that way.

Colin Neilson

[Shemmj]

Hi BizDoc,

I really cannot find anything reliable yet, though I have spent so much money and tried countless hours to make money online.
I desperately need to find a good online money maker soon as my husband lost his job and we need to make at least $4000 a month from the end of November 2006 to look after our basic family needs which includes 5 orphans.

If you have something that is working for you, please, please let us know.

Thanks for your time.

shemmj

[ric964]

hi

i have to say that i haven't had much experience of shawn's products, i did purchase a special offer from one of his sites, as well as taking up his free trials and offers and i got a lot out of them. On three ccasions i have contacted his support centre; to ask for information, to cancel a trial and on one occasion to ask for a refund (as i had purchased sometihing in error). and whilst i don't find the 'support desk' setup friendly, i did at least find it efficient in that i got what i asked for on each occasion. promptly. which i have to say was impressive considering the amount of people whose products i have purchased etc. ,who when i have asked a question, for some product support or a refund have not even sent a confirmation email in response.

whilst his offers and products\services appear (to me at least) a bit confusing, his business does appear to be genuine. from my admittedly limited experience.

In general i would suggest to anyone buying any product online to try and do so through paypal as then you have an intermediary if something isn't right (and if your like me from outside the US, you don't get hit by bank fees). also if it's a click bank related product, as they (CB) act as the merchant, you can use the links in the confirmation\receipt email. and if you follow their procedure, especially if you need to get a refund, you should get one in a few days. At least that has been my experience.

ric d ;)

[krice32]

Bizdoc, I attempted to email you about your "legitimate" business from home and the email address came back as not deliverable. Do you have a new email address? Or Are you a scam artist? No disrespect I just want to know the best way to contact to you understand your business.

Kei

[dabbler]

Kei,

Are you looking for a legitimate home business? If so, I have a recommendation for you.

dabbler

dabbler398@yahoo.com

[abaddon]

Hey everybody,

It has been my experience, that people like Shawn Casey simply make their money selling has-been, largely worthless information to inexperienced, albiet sincere and hopeful internet entrepreneur wannabes. They sell tons and tons of "ebooks" and videos, tapes, DVDs and any other medium they can use to sell outdated, old business concepts. The internet is changing all the time. If you really want to make money, you've got to do more than just purchase an ebook from someone like Casey. I mean, think about it: If the ideas in his products were so good, why is he spending so much time selling the information instead of using it's concepts? This is the age-old dilema of all these kinds of offers-- whether they be "no money down" real estate seminars, stock systems or various other money-making claims. When pinned down, most of these hucksters say something like "After making so much money, I wanted to give back something-- so that's why I'm sharing my knowledge with the world" Yeah, right. The concepts may be good, they may not be good-- but one thing is for certain: No matter what concepts their selling, one must WORK HARD TO MAKE MONEY. The only easy money is the money they're making by selling their materials to you. One thing to keep in mind-- you can always buy all the products they've got, and then just do what they do: market them back to people who are like you are now-- people who are looking for an internet business. I personally think it's cheesy, but that's just my opinion.

[jallen3d]

Hello Forum members,

This thread caught my eye as I was scanning and felt that I had to add my two cents here. I seriously hope that I don't make anyone unhappy within or outside of this forum but...

I have been a reader and customer of many of these guru types and have found some good and some bad ones. Just like in the brick n mortar world. I have to ask the one poster of this comment

"Point: When buying something with a guarantee, except maybe through Clickbank, ALWAYS purchase through the product owner. My policy now is to call the owner and see if #1 they answer the phone and #2 test the support out. If I can't contact support by phone, I think long and hard before buying."

Do you drive a car? When you purchased that car did you speak directly with the owner of the company? When you purchase other goods and services in the real world do you go through the same due diligence you recommended? As most folks don't.

As for the person that originally purchased the Biz in a Box from one of Shawn Casey's websites or affiliates, DID YOU GET or PRINT out your Receipt? If so I am sure Shawn would be happy to issue your refund, providing you requested it through the proper channels described on his website.. Shawn is one of the good guys in my own opinion. But I always remember he is in the business of marketing, which is the same as selling or being a salesperson.

If you don't want to be sold then I advise you not to venture into the Internet Marketing World, MLM, Networking or attempt to own your own business online. Because the only way to make money from your home based enterprise is to transfer goods, information, property and the like. You must have a product that folks are willing to pay for.

If you haven't taken the time to read and follow the instructions then don't whine either.

Online businesses are less expensive to start up, allows room for failure and is full of folks willing to help you learn as you earn. Most will require some form of compensation for their efforts. Why? Because this is what the internet marketing game is about MAKING MONEY! Right? You learn on the job here and yes you can make a lot and yes you can lose a lot just like in the real world.

Have you ever owned your own business before? If not, then you have a lot to learn before you see real ROI. The good thing is you can start one up for near nothing, unlike in the real world where you will spend 5 figure dollar amounts for a janitorial business to really high dollar amounts for a restaurant.

Look at buying your own McDonalds franchise and you will see what I mean. Plus they tell you up front not to expect to be in profit for a few years. Online it will not cost you an arm or a leg. And the time quotient for your ROI can be much quicker, if you do your due diligence and work your business, learn the things you need to learn and always try to help others succeed and your success will be greater.

I recommend that you read "Think and Grow Rich" by Napoleon Hill, "as a Man Thinketh" by James Allen ( not me) and find yourself a mentor, coach or role model and get busy achieving your dreams.

Thanks for your time.

[arby904]

just a short note on mr shawn casey "business in a box" make sure you read the fine writing in this guy's emails if you go to sign up for this.i missed the fine writing and was charged on my credit card ~$28 or 29 dollars/month for nothing. i tried to get the charges reversed with the credit card company and they wouldn't reverse them.even though i didn't use the program i needed to cancel out in order not to be charged the monthly amount.i say beware of this company/shawn casey/mining gold!!

[Tim_on Ebay]

Jim Allen had many wise words on joining schemes, MLM, etc. I have run a successful business for 14 years, but when I retired I wanted to top up my pension.

I checked out 'spread betting agains the Dow' index' and found I made money on a quiet market but lost with oil price fluctayions perturbing it. And a few others !

I had watched eBay for more than 4 years looking for an opportunity. I finally found it !

I tried to buy equipment for some research work I was doing (I'm a Physicist) and discovered no-one in the country I live in was importing what I needed. So I bought a few extra items and offered it to the eBay market for all the costs of getting it to me plus local postage rates plus Ebay fees plus Paypal fees multiplied by 1.57 to give a gross marging of 35%. That I felt was fair to both me and any buyer.

It sold moderately well, a thin trickle of sales that yielded enough profit to fund expansion without dipping into my savings.

I am now manufacturing overseas vital parts to equipment I can easily build and yielding a higher margin. Fun ? YES ! Time consuming ? about 30 hours a week taken in a thin trickle over 18 hours a day.

Solid profit ? Seems so !

The key was to try and buy a difficult to find item and fixing the supply route. - simple !

I'm not going to share more than the concept that has worked for me as I don't need any competition ! *LOL* but there are opportunities a plenty which won't cost a fortune to start or buy using eBay.

Good luck to anyone who stumbles into this posting. Hope you find a steady income that suits you and your needs.

: )

Tim

[beachpatty]

Originally Posted by krice32

Bizdoc, I attempted to email you about your "legitimate" business from home and the email address came back as not deliverable. Do you have a new email address? Or Are you a scam artist? No disrespect I just want to know the best way to contact to you understand your business.

Kei

i tried too & the e mail came back, any other e mail address?
many thanx in advance.
beachpatty

[mikedc38]

Hello "Wanna Get Rich People". I am not here to bash Sean Cassey nor am I here to promote him. (Did you say promote? Guess you missed the rules section hmm?)
I am here to tell you all that I am a regular working stiff that like everyone else, I have been seeking the 'Get rich quick" success plans. Well, I can tell you with complete truth and some embarassment, that at a cost of nearly $3,000 USD. I have yet to find it. I guess we should all have listened to our Dear Parents advise, "if you wanna get rich, go to work and work hard at an honest job" Well, truth is, I did finally take that advise and I can honestly tell you with no complaints, I have been working an honest job for the past 15 years, and from this job, I have been blessed and able to afford some of the luxeries I had always wanted. Now, about 8 weeks ago, just by sure luck and chance, while searching through some work from home sites and offers, I stumbled accross one that sounded honest and realistic instead of the too good to be true usuall ones. So, upon some research, I satisfied myself that this one was a low risk opportunity at only $9.99, and I decided to roll the dice and take a shot at this one. So, I sent the $9.99 for the program and started to do exactly as suggested and stated within that package. Well, I am happy to tell you all that in the last three weeks, I have earned a net income of $7,265.00 from the results of my efforts from following this program. I know it may not sound like a lot to some of you, but hey, for me, thats nearly twice what I earn from my hard working and honest day to day job. Well, that being said, any of you that want to give this program a try (and I tell you as God as my witness, it really works), just send me an email at doesntreadrules.duh, and I will forward you the info and the link to this great working system. Ok, enough said, I wish you all the success and happiness you are seeking and God Bless and God Speed.

Kindest regards,
Michael

[Heathersarbonne]

Hi there,
I have been researching online or marketing companies that claim to earn tons of money. What company are you with? What does it take to get started, and when can I start making $$$??
Thanks,

Heather

[Heathersarbonne]

What company is really legitamate? How soon do you start making money????

[jsuperstar]

I've just encountered a similar situation with Mr. Casey. I signed up for the free trial offer that lasts for 7-10 days. Then after that, he clearly states that if you do not cancel out, you will be charged a certain amount. I did not cancel out of the program and was charged $40.00. That was fine. But no where did I see that there would be monthly recurring charges. I just checked my credit card statement today and there is yet another charge of $40.00. There was a phone number provided on my credit card statement for Shawn Casey, but when I call it, a voice comes on and says the number is not in service. I sent an e mail off and registered with the goldshare support service and sent a message to them as well, but I have yet to hear back from anybody. I'm going to try and have the charges reversed. I am reviewing his website now, and if I need to sign out of something in order to not have recurring charges, then I don't know where it is. I see no option to sign out of anything.

[Ryath]

For all those people who are having trouble getting their money back, write to the company who made the financial transaction for you.

Paypal and Clickbank, (the most used "bankers") will generally resolve the problem for you and the same with Visa or whatever credit card you use.

Payment forms ALWAYS show whether it is a one time payment or a subscription. It's up to you to read what you are agreeing to and not just blindly go clicking buttons

Shawn Casey is a reputable producer of Internet training programs and although I personally don't like the "OTO" (one time offers) there is nothing compelling you to take them. One thing about the internet is you always have the option to say, "NO" or just shut down the page if your not happy with what you're reading - even on the payment pages. Click exit if you'r not comfortable with what you are doing.

As far as money being refunded, explain exactly what the problem is and if, for some reason you don't get an answer, try again. Frequently you have to go back to the help desk to read and reply to your queries so don't forget where you were when you put in the complaint. Be courteous - the people taking the messages are employees and you'll do much better by making them your friends.

Even the threat of contacting the various payment companies will produce results because no one is prepared to have their livelihood withdrawn for a couple of hundred dollars.

One other thing - make sure that you apply for your refund within the time frame. If the offer states 30 days then don't look ahead and say "well if today is the 5th of March 30 days must be 5th April." 30 days is the 3rd April. Always get a calender and check - months have a different number of days in them.

Finally, regardless of which training program you purchase, it will take TIME to make money from the Internet. There is a lot to learn and, regardless of the material thrown at you stating otherwise, it can't be done overnight. Read, study and follow the training program exactly and don't spend your time looking for the next great opportunity. The step for making money are the same and although the next "GREATEST" offer sounds fantastic, it will be basically the same as any other program you have purchased, so don't waste your money. Remember that these guys are in business to make money and have highly paid copywriters creating their pages. Stick with what you've got and just work at it. As you progress, you will learn what is B.S. and what is credible.

Ryath

[Jim11115]

I don't know why it takes so long for otherwise sane people to realise that 99.99% of these internet money-making schemes are nothing but scams. Think about it - if you knew a way of making thousands of $'s a week would you tell anyone?

I know that I personally would not breath it to a living soul, least of all go on the internet and sell my secret - unless it had run its course, there was no further money to be made and I was entirely without morals.

Or maybe it was just a moneymaking scam to begin with.

I don't worry about falling victim to any of these again; because I will never get involved in one ever again. Unless it can proved to be 100% genuine and selling an actual product or service that someone won't feel cheated by, I think that's unlikely to come from any of the so-called "marketing gurus"

[borisf96]

Originally Posted by jsuperstar

I I see no option to sign out of anything.

You have to cancel this credit card account and ask your credit card company to reissue another credit card to you. Otherwise he will be charging you to infinity.

[alan.buck@gmail.com]

I disagree with Jim11115. It's not that 99.99% of internet money-making programs are scams, but 98% of all people trying these programs fail. Why? Because they don't follow directions and don't do the work required. I've met many internet marketers by personally speaking with them on the phone or even getting a personal email from them and not an auto-responder response. Don't forget, these people have thousands of customers and it is impossible for them to personally speak with everyone.

I've found that if you write a sincere and interesting email to them, letting them know that you are genuinely interested in them and/or their program, many will write you back or even call you.

Absolutely there are 1000's of scams on the internet and you have to be careful who you trust - I know, I've been ripped off many trimes. But there are some decent people out there who will teach you how to earn money. Don't expect to get rich over night or even in one year, but in two years I have tripled my income and it continues to grow. I'm just an ordinary guy with the same dreams as most. Nothing is going to fall in your lap. Building relationships is key and will help build your business.

There is lots of money to be legitimately made on the internet and in internet marketing. If there wasn't, not so many people would be trying to do it. Don't fall for the hype - you will fail every time. Find a mentor and program that interests you and build a sincere relationship with your mentor and some of the people they have trained and you can't fail. I guarantee it!!

I have a list of trustworthy internet marketers and network marketing programs that are good. Just contact me if you would like one.

[anniesim]

Thanks for your info here. I have been receiving these emails and was sure this was just a fancy way to get money in - $47...and monthly fee?
If everyone pays this then Shawn is doing well.
I have done hyips for many years and overall - would have done better by leaving my money in my bank - yes!
But I have found a way to make money - but I realise it will take a few months to really make the profits - but this is far more than my money in the bank, especially as the benefits are more than financial.
In Moneymakergroup forum you will see 'cyclers' - and you will find that at least 3 of these cyclers are being run by Jodi and Richard who are honest people and been doing this for years, wellknown to their members.
These have been improving these cyclers and now got them to the stage where they can run indefinitely, that is until we have made a sizeable sum with our money. But! to make good money we have to play the game well. We become part of a 'team' and those of us in that team will get looked after well by J&K as well as the other top members (members who have been with them the longest)
My friend has made a heap of money with these people but most of all there is the pleasure of the fellowship between the team members.
Team members do not cut and run! - they not only respend as required but when they begin to make the profits, will respend anyway, will give many 'gift spots' to other members, and there are a lot of Contests with spots to win from batch numbers. When we buy 3 spots we get one free - etc etc.
The most we pay for a spot is $3 in J&K's JR cycler, others are just $1
We have to be prepared to wait sometime to get these rolling. I bought 10 - $3 spots in the JR cycler about? 7 weeks ago - and they are only just getting near the top of the first stage - but when you consider that money is 'doubling' and this is far more than I ever made overall on my hyips - we would be promised say 20% in 10 days 'for a while' and after waiting some 10 days or so for payout and trying again a couple of times, we would have our deposits stolen when they scammed. A lot of the latter scams didn't even pay the first couple times, they've just got worse over the years.
If you decide to join our cyclers, make sure you are joining J&R's cyclers because you cannot rely on anyone else to pay you. JR, Ultimate Push are recommended and Luckydollar is being run by a top team member. Ultimate Push have a great New Years' contest going on and a great many spots are soon to be added for this.
Here is the cycler url. The page is heavy so you need to make sure it has stopped rolling each time before clicking next page or it will just freeze
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Money-Cyclers-f112.html&
Good Luck!

[craig.nanango@westnet.com]

Hi,

I am new to this forum and I found it through Google checking out the veracity of Mining Gold Corpororation and the hundreds of emails that I have received from Shawn Casey.

I have personally spent more than six months of my own time (approximately 30 hours per week) researching ways to effectively start a financially viable Internet Business.

This has been to no avail as I don't trust any of these Business-in-a-Box schemes and I have reached the conclusion that the only way is to build my own legimate Web Site using whatever suitable software packages are available.

I am still searching for the right tools! Having evaluated the so-called Top Ten I remain unconvinced other than to suggest that a CMS (such as Mambo amongst others) may in the end be the best solution.

I look forward to any legitimate and verifiable feedback on these issues.

[bigfoot.49@hotmail.co.uk]

WHAT A RIPOFF FREE LAPTOP NO STILL CANT SEE IT BEING DELIVERED MORE CHANCE OF THE TITANIC PARKING OUT SIDE MY HOUSE THAN THE INVISIBLE LAPTOP TURNING UP SHAWN CASEY YES I SAID SHAWN CASEY THE INCREDIBLE BULLSHITTING MAN SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED IT WILL BE DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR FREE ON TUESDAY 11/3 /2008 STILLWAITING ???????WHERE IS IT????:2gunsfiring _v1:

[jaclynmoat01]

Hey I'm really new to this i've been looking at signing up with shawn casey but then today i was reading about ty coughlin and was reading his site, i'm just wondering if anyone knows who would be best and if its wrth it I havent actually spoken to anyone that has done it and can say for sure that it actually works, I'm really limited with cash so i don't have money to throw away and cant risk gettin caught in it and not being able to get out or find hidden charges in there...If anyone could help me I'd appreciate it so much

[aceisey]

it really seems like people are haveing bad experiences with shawn casey. im steering clear from his products.

[alan.buck@gmail.com]

If you are new to internet marketing, I woud not sign-up to either of the programs you had mentioned. I am not saying they are scammers; however, for newbies they are not the best programs available and they are also rather expensive. I have also seen many complaints on both of them. Some complaints are well founded and others are not - because the people did not follow directions.

If you contact me, I will help you find legitimate, internet-marketing programs and/or products. I started my home-based business in 2006 and have been scammed, ripped-off and lied to. I wasted thousands of dollars on bad products and programs trying to learn to do business to make an honest living.

After all the garbage I swam through and the little good I found, my mission now is to help others build wealth from home and keep them from being ripped-off like I was. If I can keep just a few from giving the scamsters any orders or money, than I have accomplished something (besides making money) worthwhile.

You can make a very good living on-line and build unlimited wealth, you just have to know how to sort out the trash and find a good mentor. I know this is true. I am living proof!:wave:

You have now found a good mentor - all you have to do is take action and contact me. You can contact me by email or phone (419-320-0452).

buckboyy

[tuhoegirl]

Hey Michael what is your email address please so I can get some more info from you.

[Chunkshank]

I think it's fairly obvious that most "get rich quick" sites are bogus. Think about it. If the owner/operator of the methods being discussed are so incredible, why would they want to share the information? Here's something else. If thousands of other people have already beaten you to the punch, you're going to be selling the exact same thing from the exact same website as all of those other people. Do you really want that many identical competitors?

The people who claim to have the "idea to end all ideas" are making their money from the people who believe them, not from the ideas themselves.

You're asking for trouble if you believe a complete stranger when they say, "Give me some of your money and I'll make you a millionaire!". Some of these people may be victims of circumstance, in that they're actually legitimate, but the history of the online money-making market has a poor track record, and you'd be doing yourself no favors at all by not researching these sites extensively.

[Friendly99]

It IS bogus, completely unethical and borderline legal.

Naturally they want to share their tips... Their so called tips are the business model for many of them. Give the idiots/masses something for free, get them to sign up to a product and suddenly you realise that the trick is to scam people the same way they have scammed you.

A lot of these so called "very smart" people's offerings could be summarised as follows:
1. Get idiots like you to buy crap products from you - that's what I did!
2. See above...

Anybody who thinks they can get rich quick by buying a quick guide are just lining the pockets somebody else who's planning a "get rich quick scheme" - and you're obviously falling for it. Don't!

Even if you did e.g. end up becoming a reseller for one of these scumbags, would you be able to look yourself in the mirror, look at the faces of friends, family and children and feel good about effectively being a con-man?

The sooner you all spread the word that Shawn Casey and b*stards of his ilk are petty criminals preying on ill-educated and desperate consumers the better. It might not make you rich right now, but it would sure save you a lot of money that you would otherwise be wasting on this crap!!!!!

[rog37]

I have been 'Networking' for well over 15 years now and have found that since the Internet has exploded into peoples homes, there are now a great deal of scams.

However, I have been associated with a couple of companies for at least 7 years now which have been paying me on time every month without fail.

I have previously built teams of thousands solely on the Zig Ziglar belief that "If you help enough others to succeed, you will also succeed".

Not only do I have a number of honest, paying on-line business that I can recommend, I also have many 'Affiliate' sites where it costs absolutely nothing to join.

How about giving away 100's of eBooks on a vast selection of subjects? This then attracts people to you and your businesses!

Have a look at for a wealth of free success tips and honest advice on how to succeed.

rog37

[craig.nanango@westnet.com]

I agree with Rog37 I must admit however that I was sceptical of some of the recommendations for other sites (alternatives to Mining Gold - Shawn Casey) until I tentatively contacted Alan Buck (refer posts #30 and #36) who pointed me in Roger's direction.

I have now been dealing with these two guys for the past 3 months and have found them to be very approachable and consequently I have completely changed my approach to Internet Marketing.

They have both taught me heaps! However, do not expect to get rich quickly and easily. If it is worthwhile doing, be prepared to put in the effort for several weeks, or even months, before you you start to make a reasonable return!

THERE ARE NO RELIABLE GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES!

I do recommend howerver that you contact both Roger and Alan before you waste anymore time trying to "go it alone".

The best thing about their approach is that they are good mentors and will give you great support you as long as you can demontrate that you are putting in the effort yourself. The best thing is that you get to talk to a REAL PERSON not some email autoresponder.

Also, the majority of their recommendations can be achieved for minimal cost to yourself and there are virtually no recurring charges.

Fortunately I didn't subscribe to any of other schemes referred to in previous posts, so although I haven't made a fortune yet, I'm not too far out of pocket either.

I am currently completely rebuilding my own Website after about five years of heartache and I now firmly believe that I am on the right track at last!

*****

[rog37]

Sorry about the last line of my previous message which had to be edited. As you can see, I am fairly new to this forum and now know that I am not allowed to enter my personal website details.

It will not happen again.

rog37

[mkjacks7]

Hey Michael (mikedc38)

Your email "doesntreadrules.duh" does not work.

Can you please post your real email for your info and link.

Thanks.

[MyriadLife]

Yes I got the same email today. I don't take notice of such emails usually but am interested to know more if anyone checks out what it's all about.

[frog98007]

I got fed up when My rent check bounced and called the fraud department at my bank they tried to reach their site got the answer machine with the e-mail address. Asked me if I sent them an email I said no I sent them 6 here is copies of them. The bank gave me 4 months of refunds and took the NSF off my account. So does that tell you something that the bank gave me back my money. about these folks. there does that sume up my thoughts about them.

[MrsBunnsy]

I keep getting emails from them and the links are all from setuta.com. Setuta regularly sends me emails about companies offering free tv, free electricity etc. All of them offer their services in exchange for payment and from doing a little research they are all scams.

Also the unsubscribe page for mining gold corp includes the dodgy text:

"... your email will be compiled into a screening or suppression list along with all other collected email opt-outs. This list will be provided to all third parties providing email solicitations for our services... By entering your email address and using the form below, you authorize Mining Gold Corporation to provide your email address to those third parties. We are providing your email address solely for the purpose of preventing you receiving additional offers from us."

...meaning that mining gold corp wont be emailing you anymore but the third parties can use your email address for whatever they want (to send lots of different spam) as long as its not to advertise mining gold corp. Also the page title is "login page".

The whole thing smells like a big dirty scam

[katrina65]

Has Anyone Here Or Anywhere Had Success With These Guys Alan's Phone Is Not Accepting Messages And Says Have A New Cell And Doesnt Give The New Number Go Figure! Does Anyone Out There Have A Real Real Way To Make A Decent Income On The Internet Ive Been Searching For 12 Years And Al And I Mean I Can Tell U I Have Researched Hundreds R All Scams.
Cluless

[johnnyH]

The only thing that is insane is you handing over money to this guy.

Originally Posted by PAYEK

FairTrade, thanks for the info. I read your post & decided to go ahead & get my free "once in a lifetime" offer....

After I signed up for that .. it sent me to another offer page.
Not sure if I'm going to do this part of it or not.

Anyway, thanks..just thought you'd like an update on what links I was sent to after I signed up for the "freebie"! It looks like great info!! Plus, 100% $$ back gaurantee.........



******************THIS IS THE OFFER I GOT*********************


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Now here's the insane part of this over-the-top guarantee... even if I request a refund, I get to keep the entire course and free bonus package as Shawn's gift to me just for giving it a try! Shawn would have to be insane to make this guarantee if he was not absolutely convinced that I was going to love this course.

Here's my order so I'll be able to download my personal copy of "How To Quickly And Easily Create A Wildly Profitable Internet Business" in just a few minutes.

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[Yeoch]

With respect to everybody, I'd like to repeat someone's words about 'Mining Gold Corporation'. It's kind of speaks my mind too.

"Fool's Gold

Well, this is one that I have first hand exp with. At first I believed that the program and the advice from the well respected Shawn Casey was the perfect opp for me. However, it seamed that I was the only one dishing out the gold, there's always something more to purchase with the program and I'm just not comfortable with someone digging into my pockets like that."

I canceled my subscription but was deducted the first month fee nonetheless. I reported the deduction to my credit card company and a staff just simply suggested that I 'report loss' ... to prevent further deduction.

Be careful minding this mining gold.

[wilrmal2]

Originally Posted by jaclynmoat01

Hey I'm really new to this i've been looking at signing up with shawn casey but then today i was reading about ty coughlin and was reading his site, i'm just wondering if anyone knows who would be best and if its wrth it I havent actually spoken to anyone that has done it and can say for sure that it actually works, I'm really limited with cash so i don't have money to throw away and cant risk gettin caught in it and not being able to get out or find hidden charges in there...If anyone could help me I'd appreciate it so much

Ty Coughlin is going to try to sell you Global Resorts Network for around $3000 and then get you in on the Reverse Funnel System for about $400 more.
Shawn Casey got me last year for $2000 with his package deal for listbuilding. His accomplice was Tellman Knudson. They really don't care how much money they squeeze out of you. They will also tell you they can accept only 100 more participants before the doors are closed forever. Do you really think they close the doors on more money? They live off of you signing up for the freebies. If they get that list of people long enough, some idiot like myself is going to fall for it.
I would not even suggest to my worst enemies to give Ty Coughlin(the beach guy) or Shawn Casey(lawyer) any more money. Remember, they prey on the poor to make themselves rich.