International Galleries, Inc.

[Seeking a Biz]

Is any of you readers involved with International Galleries, Inc.?

An ad from one of their members appeared in my local fishwrap, stating that it is possible to earn up to $10K the first month selling art through referrals to your own affiliate member Web site.

IGI claims to be the second largest art seller and the largest purchaser of art canvas in the country. Their market niche is selling the work of up-and-coming artists...artists who produce excellent work, but are not quite household names yet.

Supposedly, you earn money by both referring others into the business and selling directly to whomever you can find that wants to buy fine art.

They claim that all paintings are of collector quality and are limited edition pieces...ranging from 500 - 2000 reproductions, depending upon the artist and the piece.

They have a pretty generous rewards card program and profit sharing in all sales worldwide once you meet certain sales levels.

They are perfectly clean in their BBB report. I cannot find any complaints or scam posts on the Internet about them.

The IGI opportunity has piqued my interest, but I thought I would check here at scam.com before I commit anything to IGI.

IGI's Web site is http://www.igi-art.com.

Any feedback...positive or negative...will be appreciated.

Thanks.

[giclees4u]

Hi,

Yes, IGI is legit. It's the only company I know that actually post member's earnings so you can verify what someone is telling you. And, yes, there are several members that are making thousands per month. I have gotten several pices of art and the quality is great. The company will be expanding to 64 countries. Some pieces of art have more than 2000 editions.

[dr poormouth]

What, no Black Velvet Elvises?

[ohein56]

How old is the company? (2-5 years is best)

Who are the people at the helm of the company, have they done this before, how much are you going to invest your future in their learning curve?

Is the product one that you would be interested in regardless of the opportunity to make money?

Do you normally spend alot on art annually yourself? Do you have friends/family that do?

What is it about IGI piques your interest the most? The product or the $$$$ possibillities.

Seems to be a very limited "exclusive" market. Not very "mass-market-able" IMHO

Just a few thoughts and observations. LOL

KLH

[giclees4u]

IGI’s production company, World Art Productions launches Art Adventures September 3rd, 2005 at the Anaheim Convention Center. Over 100 TV commercials will air on Los Angeles TV stations inviting the public to “come to the Anaheim Convention Center for a FREE art evaluation from our Art Appraisers".

www.art-adventures.net

From the website:
Your treasure could be featured on TV
The most interesting pieces and exciting discoveries may be taped for our syndicated television show, Art Adventures! Film crews will be on hand during the art evaluation event. If you’re selected (and if you choose to be filmed), it all takes place while you’re there. You don’t need to have a million-dollar treasure to make the cut — sometimes the most exciting stories are about the treasure hunt itself!

[ohein56]

giclees4u~

Thanks for the SPAM. :eek: :mad:

[Truth Seeker1]

I will tell you that it is against the company's policies and procedures to state incomes in any advertising the company would not be happy to see that ad.

However, when you get a free website it allows you to get into the "back office" that the active members have access to and you can go to 'Compliance' on the left side margin, click on it and see the earnings of ALL members in IGI. And understand how generous they are.

It is true that IGI has become the 2nd largest gallery in the US and buys more art canvas than any other entity.

What is important to understand is that this is the decade for solving the problems around distribution. Manufacturing used to be the largest cost of goods and now it is distribution. Walmart is simply about a new distribution system. Microsoft is where it is because of their distribution methods for one important reason.

IGI has found the first and only way to distribute art world wide in the trillion dollar fragmented art industry and to do it more cost effectively and efficiently than any other method offers.

IGI is headquartered in the U.S. and it is open for business in Mexico, Hong Kong and this month Great Britain. Numerous other countries are underway. IGI did $5 million in the last 6 months of 2003, $10 million in 2004 and $65 million in the first 6 months of 2005 and pays out 50% of it's gross sales volume to IGI members which means in just 2 short years a relatively small number of IGI members have been paid $40 million dollars.

The art is collector quality, limited edition prints done in the Rolls Royce of printing methods - Giclee. When each piece sells out it is no longer available except through the people who own it and IGI has created and spent millions creating the secondary market for it's members so we do not have to go out and find the buyers.

The prints range from $200 from up and coming artists to $4000 for prints from Grand Master Editions which are from museum quality pieces done by well known deceased artists.

It is the most joyous and lucrative business I have ever been involved in. If you want more definitive information, feel free to email me.

[dr poormouth]

And Sad Clowns. A Sad Clown painting would really brighten up the SRO, where the doctor cooks his canned spaghetti on a thrift store hotplate.

[Truth Seeker1]

For dr poormouth:
Since few if any could make sense of your last post, I noticed that you joined this group in May of 2005 and have......gasp....140 posts. That would mean virtually 2 per day give or take in just this group. Would posting here and elsewhere be your main job?

My first posts were yesterday and after this one it will be my last. I not only am the President and CEO of a very successful company, but I am deeply involved in IGI because it is an historical event in the world of business. A brand new business model. Other legitimate and conventional companies are sending reps to study IGI because this new model for entrepreneurs who are able to recognize success when it is put before them has applications for other products and because it is now global and has record gross sales volumes in less than 2 years and so it is clearly extremely successful and other resources see that this new business model has great application to change the socio-economic conditions in many countries.

I find that it takes a successful person to recognize success when it is put before them. That would define those involved in IGI who would never have the time to be posting to discussion groups such as this one occassionally - let alone twice a day.

I did only because I am qualified to talk about IGI because of my success and because I will counter any negativity from people who do not know what they are talking about. Could that possibly be you? Consider that I have done what I needed and am now permanently signed off of this discussion group and will not have time to return to it - not even to read an unintelligible post from you dr poormouth.

[hvance]

Attention Truth Seeker, If you would more carefully read my post you would see that I changed my mind and the company would not, nor did they tell me that they had a no return policy.Just because IGI is good for you does not mean that it is right for everyone. Get your facts straight.

[homebuddy]

To Truth Seeker 1:

Stan Leitner was indeed listed on your website as founder and CEO. It is interesting that you are trying to distance yourself from him. He has been charged with investing fraud in the 14 million dollar megafund case. Anyone interested could type megafund fraud into google and you will see several links to newpapers, and magazines including Forbes and BusinessWeek that are running the story.

As for Stan Leitner, if you type his name into google, the first link that comes up will give you his bio and a link to IGI where he is listed, at the time, as your founder and CEO.

Additionally, there seem to be several interesting documents listed as being at 3744 Arapaho Road, your address I believe:

Various corporate records at the 3744 Arapaho Road address, including MegaFund Corporation.

Name: MEGAFUND CORPORATION
Address: 309 DOUBLE OAK LN
LAKE DALLAS, TX 75065

FILING INFORMATION

Filing Date: 04/14/2004
State of Incorporation: TEXAS
Date Incorporated: 04/14/2004
Duration: PERPETUAL
Status: IN EXISTENCE
Corporation Type: NOT AVAILABLE
Business Type: DOMESTIC CORPORATION
Address Type: MAILING
Registration ID#: 0800328818

Where Filed: SECRETARY OF STATE
1019 BRAZOS ST
AUSTIN, TX 78701


REGISTERED AGENT INFORMATION

Agent Name: GREG HARRIS
Address: 2692 GRAVEL RD
FORT WORTH, TX 76118

PRINCIPAL INFORMATION

Name: STANLEY A LEITNER
Title: DIRECTOR
Address: 3744 ARAPAHO RD
ADDISON, TX 75001

Why is this at 3744 Arapaho?

[giclees4u]

Maybe I'm missing something because I can't find Stan Leitner listed on the IGI website as Founder and CEO. I only find Paul Meyers listed as President and CEO and the rest of the management team. Maybe Stan Leitner was President a while ago??

http://www.igi-art.com/igi_bios/bios.htm

Update - I found the link you're referring to where Stan Leitner was listed as founder and CEO of IGI - hmmm, interesting. I wonder when that was and for how long.

http://pampered.igi-art.com/bios.cfm...%0A&ExtraTags=

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by ohein56

How old is the company? (2-5 years is best)

Who are the people at the helm of the company, have they done this before, how much are you going to invest your future in their learning curve?

Is the product one that you would be interested in regardless of the opportunity to make money?

Do you normally spend alot on art annually yourself? Do you have friends/family that do?

What is it about IGI piques your interest the most? The product or the $$$$ possibillities.

Seems to be a very limited "exclusive" market. Not very "mass-market-able" IMHO

Just a few thoughts and observations. LOL

KLH

I posted this on the IGI link also,since same questions were brought up.

To hvance, Nipitnthebud, homebuddy, dr poormouth, KLH:
I joined IGI April, 2005 and had a problem for almost 1 month with receiving my artwork, but I HAD NO PROBLEM with reaching IGI by phone or emailing the company. They would call me back within a couple of days if I left a message. I paid for my art, but because of a glich in the computer, it took 1 month to receive my art. I signed on just as IGI added about 200 new employees and I got caught in the confusion. I was patient, and received my art. I did not give up on the company and they kept working with me until I finally received everything. The quality of the art is excellent.

Why did I NOT GIVE UP on IGI, when I was having problems getting my art work? Because, everyone on the Team I am working with, that had joined since January, 2005, were making 4 & 5 figured incomes-well on their way to 6 figures. I am with the fastest growing Team in IGI. They have daily recruiting calls and weekly training to help everyone who joins to become successful with IGI.

Because of 2 deaths in my family in May, and a dear friend lost in June in a plane crash, I have not worked the IGI system. THE PLUS, I was able to watch how well those on my Team are doing by watching the "Compliance" area on my web site, I was able to see how fast everyone is growing, it is updated weekly. There is no guessing with this company. It is all in black and white. I know of no company who has not had a few problems during the growing periods. I have worked with IBM, Prudential Financial Insurance, and a large Steel Corporation. They all have had their share of problems, and most grew very fast and now they have all laid off and cut back on employees.

Paul J. Myer is Founder, President and CEO of IGI, (see Bio on Web site). I found the Stan Leitner name on a google search connected with IGI, but he is not listed on anything currently. So I can not verify if he was originally with the company or not or if that was just someone who had a web site with IGI.

KLH asked:
How old is the company? Two years old July, 2005

Who are the people at the helm of the company, have they done this before, how much are you going to invest your future in their learning curve?
IGI has some of the best Advisors to be found anywhere to help keep this company legitimate and of the highest integrity. Their PICTURES and BIOGRAPHY'S are listed on the web site.
If you want to check them out, I will give you my web address.

EXAMPLES OF QUALIFICATIONS
The Management Team/Advisory Board of Directors:
Past Attorney General -3 Times - State of Washington
State House of Representatives - 3 Times - State of Washington
Former Governor of Nevada
Lt. Governor of Nevada
The head of US Task Force on VICTIMS OF CRIME
President of National District Attorneys Assoc.
Justice of the Peace
Attorney admitted in Michigan, NY, Colorado, Michigan Federal Courts
Former Corp. Executives, Senior White House Advisor to Presidents
Founder of an Investment Firm & a Technology entity
Founder of a Commercial Bank
Helped create the FORTUNE 500 FORUM
Another White House Adviser
President of Financial Services
Visual Art Director - with Disney & worked with many Movie Stars
These are just a few of those qualified to guide us.

This is not an investment company, it is a Direct Sales Marketing company. Only a one time out of pocket expense. Other company's you have to keep spending and spending out of pocket to stay in business.

Is the product one that you would be interested in regardless of the opportunity to make money? Do you normally spend alot on art annually yourself? Do you have friends/family that do?

These are limited edition art work. Yes many I would be interested in, and many I would not. The company is creating ways to help us trade or sell the pieces we do not want. The pictures online do not do justice to the artwork. I do not enjoy clown pictures, but I have a friend who would love the one posted on here. You can laugh now, but I and my team members are the ones who are and will enjoy the rewards of hard work, some fine art, meeting of the rich and famous ( many stars to be at the next convetion in California) who love to collect fine art. During wars the one thing that has survived through out history is the art work of that country. There is a great value put on art by many rich, weathy, famous people. When you get into any business do you use or like all the product you sell or do your family or friends want them or use them or do they purchase them just to help you out? Do you use all the diet products, vitamins, lightbulbs, food, laundry products, hair products, exercise equipment etc., or purchase them just to keep your volume up, or make money from them? I am sure very few use or enjoy every product they purchase to make money. The one thing about the art work, it is of the highest quality, and I can be proud to show and display this in my home, and it is of great value and to many it will bring pleasure to them to see these pieces or to own some of these great art works.

What is it about IGI piques your interest the most? The product or the $$$$ possibillities. Both, once I saw the paintings I loved the ones I purchased, but I still love the idea I can MAKE AS MUCH IN ONE MONTH AS I MAKE IN A YEAR, in a very short time. I know I will not love all my paintings, but the market is huge-world wide.

Seems to be a very limited "exclusive" market. Not very "mass-market-able" IMHO - No way is it limited...The whole world is are market- IGI is going global in 2 years. Just opened up London in July.

Just a few thoughts and observations. LOL
Why not check out the company before making all these observations. Go to Dallas. Your laughter might change into excitement once you really check this company out. They are not trying to scam anyone. They want you to visit them, check them out online, offline. Check them in every way you can. They have nothing to hide.

Anyone who wants to find out more about IGI is invited to Dallas. Visit the headquarters. They are not trying to hide anything. They want to help you.

IGI is located at 3744 Arapaho Road in Addison, Texas 75001 (suburb of Dallas.) All members are invited to visit the company at any time during normal business hours. They also have a Super Saturday the first Saturday of every month for you to see how well everyone is doing and how well you can do with the company by visiting the company and talking with IGI Affiliates and staff.

I am now starting to work with the Team. I have a lot of work to do, but this company is going world wide in 2 years, and I want to be at the top. This is not MLM, but Direct Marketing. The company has CREATED A NEED AND WANT FOR THE ART AND A WAY TO HELP YOU SELL IT.

Call this number to hear about the company, decide for yourselft.
1-800-460-6566
Then call this 4 min. sizzle call...1-512-404-1256
Listen to Jeanne (from my team)-recorded in March-then go to web site and see how much she has made since joining Feb, 2005, 6 figures. Plus she has made other bonuses not listed. This is without selling the paintings. Selling is up to each individual and not listed as part of our earnings with the company.
If you want more information please call and leave a message
1-800-242-0363 ext 4167 and I will give you a call or you can email
me if you want my web site address.

[duckmonkey]

Boy did I buy IGI hook line and sinker.

They winned and dinned my wife and myself for two days. I was very impressed. They have it all, a nice gallery, nice people and all the right words for the new prospects.(Many people say they are making big money)

Then it happened. The pictures that were to be sent in two days are sent in two weeks. We receive 16 very expensive prints in 4 simple black tubes. Several of the prints were $1,000.00 each. Can you imagine my surprise at receiving this collectable art in tubes that give no special attention or respect to this limited addition art.

Limited edition art is initally a perceived value. When collectable art is treated without respect the average consumer wonders about it 's true potential value. I was told that over time, after purchasing more art, I would be happy having fewer tubes. I think NOT!!

One of the sold out limited edition art pieces came thru with ink spots in the upper right hand corner, two of the certificates of authenticity have black lines on them and one came wrinkled.

This is a complete lack of quality control!! Not a good thing when your dealing in art.
To their credit they are making good on all these problems.

Then I find out that the founder and prior CEO, Stanley Leitner, is charged with fraud. Not a good thing.

For those who say he is not the CEO, you are right, but he was when IGI started. IGI has been very good at distancing itself from him.

The thing that really hit home for me was when I received my credit card bill and there was an additional $150.00 charge as a transaction fee.

What's a transaction fee?? Well it turns out my order was run threw a bank in Kenya and the Kenyan bank charges this fee.

So here's the question. I go to Dallas Texas and purchase art that is made in Texas by an American company and my funds are run thru a bank out of the country and I pay a substantial fee for this. It just doesn't seem right. Is this an acceptable business practice? Why are my dollars going to a foreign country when I bought a product made in the good old USA???? By american artists, I might ad. Help me Mr Leitner. (or Mr Paul J Myer)

Seriously, proceed with caution, IGI looks good, but??????????

How would you feel if you bought a product from WalMart and found a transaction fee from a foreign bank (China) on your statement??? Would a 3% charge make a difference in your purchasing decision??

Just a little something to think about.

Run by crooks. BAD BAD CROOKS!

[artsales.igi-art.com]

I have been with IGI for a short time now and have found them to be very honest. Everything they have said they would do, they have done. You really do make money with IGI. You won't, though, because I just removed your forbidden referral link.

rolls his eyes!

[ohein56]

Also, really, how many people buy art on a regular basis? REALLY?

Would anyone realistically purchase this product or service without participating in the income opportunity? Do you have a retailable product even?

It's just not my impression of a mass marketable product.

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by duckmonkey

Boy did I buy IGI hook line and sinker.

They winned and dinned my wife and myself for two days. I was very impressed. They have it all, a nice gallery, nice people and all the right words for the new prospects.(Many people say they are making big money)

Then it happened. The pictures that were to be sent in two days are sent in two weeks. We receive 16 very expensive prints in 4 simple black tubes. Several of the prints were $1,000.00 each. Can you imagine my surprise at receiving this collectable art in tubes that give no special attention or respect to this limited addition art.

Limited edition art is initally a perceived value. When collectable art is treated without respect the average consumer wonders about it 's true potential value. I was told that over time, after purchasing more art, I would be happy having fewer tubes. I think NOT!!

One of the sold out limited edition art pieces came thru with ink spots in the upper right hand corner, two of the certificates of authenticity have black lines on them and one came wrinkled.

This is a complete lack of quality control!! Not a good thing when your dealing in art.
To their credit they are making good on all these problems.

Then I find out that the founder and prior CEO, Stanley Leitner, is charged with fraud. Not a good thing.

For those who say he is not the CEO, you are right, but he was when IGI started. IGI has been very good at distancing itself from him.

The thing that really hit home for me was when I received my credit card bill and there was an additional $150.00 charge as a transaction fee.

What's a transaction fee?? Well it turns out my order was run threw a bank in Kenya and the Kenyan bank charges this fee.

So here's the question. I go to Dallas Texas and purchase art that is made in Texas by an American company and my funds are run thru a bank out of the country and I pay a substantial fee for this. It just doesn't seem right. Is this an acceptable business practice? Why are my dollars going to a foreign country when I bought a product made in the good old USA???? By american artists, I might ad. Help me Mr Leitner. (or Mr Paul J Myer)

Seriously, proceed with caution, IGI looks good, but??????????

How would you feel if you bought a product from WalMart and found a transaction fee from a foreign bank (China) on your statement??? Would a 3% charge make a difference in your purchasing decision??

Just a little something to think about.

Check your Credit card for Identity Theft. I have checked with the 10 people I know who have joined IGI and no one has an extra charge or a charge from a bank in Kenya. The art we purchased was all we were charged for no fees were on my card and they all say they had no fees either. We are also going to bring it up at our Team conference training call to see if others have had the same problem as you.

IGI has recently announced it will be going with the largest bank in the world.
Because IGI's goal is to be a company that does business nationaly in 2 years. They just opened up England in July.

I am passing this on to IGI so they can check it out for you. Bob Miller on the Advisory Board of Directors, worked with US Presidents on the Task Force on Victimes of Crime. They also have past District Attorneys, Lt. Governors of many states, and past police officers on the Board. Since I believe in IGI, I want to make sure they know about anything like this, so I can be sure that anyone I present this to and they decide to join, will not go through similar problems as you had with the extra fee charge.

Anytime I have purchased an unstretched art piece it is rolled & placed in a tube to protect it. My late father-in-law was an artist and anytime his pieces were mailed they were rolled and placed into a tube. Less chances of damage in shipping. The black tubes are sometimes used to insure they will not be exposed to sunlight, which can damage an art piece. So for me the paintings being shipped in a tube seemed very normal.
Thanks

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by duckmonkey

Boy did I buy IGI hook line and sinker.

They winned and dinned my wife and myself for two days. I was very impressed. They have it all, a nice gallery, nice people and all the right words for the new prospects.(Many people say they are making big money)

Then it happened. The pictures that were to be sent in two days are sent in two weeks. We receive 16 very expensive prints in 4 simple black tubes. Several of the prints were $1,000.00 each. Can you imagine my surprise at receiving this collectable art in tubes that give no special attention or respect to this limited addition art.

Limited edition art is initally a perceived value. When collectable art is treated without respect the average consumer wonders about it 's true potential value. I was told that over time, after purchasing more art, I would be happy having fewer tubes. I think NOT!!

One of the sold out limited edition art pieces came thru with ink spots in the upper right hand corner, two of the certificates of authenticity have black lines on them and one came wrinkled.

This is a complete lack of quality control!! Not a good thing when your dealing in art.
To their credit they are making good on all these problems.

Then I find out that the founder and prior CEO, Stanley Leitner, is charged with fraud. Not a good thing.

For those who say he is not the CEO, you are right, but he was when IGI started. IGI has been very good at distancing itself from him.

The thing that really hit home for me was when I received my credit card bill and there was an additional $150.00 charge as a transaction fee.

What's a transaction fee?? Well it turns out my order was run threw a bank in Kenya and the Kenyan bank charges this fee.

So here's the question. I go to Dallas Texas and purchase art that is made in Texas by an American company and my funds are run thru a bank out of the country and I pay a substantial fee for this. It just doesn't seem right. Is this an acceptable business practice? Why are my dollars going to a foreign country when I bought a product made in the good old USA???? By american artists, I might ad. Help me Mr Leitner. (or Mr Paul J Myer)

Seriously, proceed with caution, IGI looks good, but??????????

How would you feel if you bought a product from WalMart and found a transaction fee from a foreign bank (China) on your statement??? Would a 3% charge make a difference in your purchasing decision??

Just a little something to think about.

I also thought you might be interested in my reply from IGI Support about
the Stan Leitner charges. Here is a copy of what they sent me. They have no business ties with him since April, 2004.

From : Support
Sent : Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:50 PM
To :
Subject : FW: IGI Contact Form

| | | Inbox

Barbara,

The following is a response from Paul Myer, the CEO of our company.

Thanks,
Emily Tomaszewski
International Galleries, Inc.
(972) 919-2700


Yes, Stan Leitner was the original President and CEO of IGI although Paul Myer was the founder. Stan resigned from IGI in April 2004 and left to start another company at which time Paul Myer was named the CEO and President.

Yes, the SEC is investigating Stan's new company Megafund. IGI is not involved in any way with Stan's company or the investigation.

Stan Leitner has not been an officer or director since April of 2004. Nor is he a stockholder.

We, too, were surprised at the investigation. Stan is a long time friend and and we believe that this investigation will clear any charges of wrong doing.

http://sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp19292.pdf
Copy of SEC complaint....

[New to the business]

There are 2 major problems here:
1.) The criminal activities of Mr. Stan Leitner
2,) Processing of merchandise payments through Kenya (possible money laundering).

Additionally, 2 of IGI's officers, Mr. Paul Myer and Mr. Charles Whitbread, were both previously named in complaints, legal filings and investigations in Waco, McLennan County, Texas.

[artsales.igi-art.com]

Originally Posted by New to the business

There are 2 major problems here:
1.) The criminal activities of Mr. Stan Leitner
2,) Processing of merchandise payments through Kenya (possible money laundering).

Additionally, 2 of IGI's officers, Mr. Paul Myer and Mr. Charles Whitbread, were both previously named in complaints, legal filings and investigations in Waco, McLennan County, Texas.

To address number 2. first - None of my payments or payments of anyone I know have gone through Kenya. All we have is an unsupported statement one person who may have been the victim of a crime totally unrelated to IGI.

Addressing number 1. - It has been stated to death that Stan Leitner is no longer associated with IGI. Any criminal activity that Stan Leitner may or may not be involved with is not related with IGI. As to Stan Leitner's guilt or innocence that is for the legal system to determine, not the message boards.

Pretty clever how you use your referral link as your username.

Well thank you!

It's also against forum rules. Goodbye.

[abfav]

I do not understand the compensation plan in IGI. It sounds like an interesting company. The minimum purchase is $200 and the more you buy the more you make? I don't really have a need for much art so what will I do with all those paintings (unframed). I really don't want to get into the business of buying and selling art. Can someone explain the whole member rewards card and how EXACTLY people are making 6 figures in such short amounts of time, unless they are seasoned networkers bringing in hundreds of people? Feel free to write me direct. Thanks :) [font=Arial]
-Andy
abfav@comcast.net

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by abfav

I do not understand the compensation plan in IGI. It sounds like an interesting company. The minimum purchase is $200 and the more you buy the more you make? I don't really have a need for much art so what will I do with all those paintings (unframed). I really don't want to get into the business of buying and selling art. Can someone explain the whole member rewards card and how EXACTLY people are making 6 figures in such short amounts of time, unless they are seasoned networkers bringing in hundreds of people? Feel free to write me direct. Thanks :) [font=Arial]
-Andy
abfav@comcast.net

The Team I am with has worked very hard to try & explain all this to the Affiliates.

The one thing that most people misunderstand is it does not take a lot of people to make money with IGI.. Jeanne the top on my Team said on Tuesday 7/16/05 that she just has 16 people, she is making in 6 figures now.
Two others said they only have 10 each that they have signed up and are making in the high 5 figure range. You do not need hundreds of people to make this work. You just need a few hard working people to make it work. You can not purchase the art and expect it to work without bringing in a few others.

See info below....
I hope this helps. You can leave a message at
1-800-242-0363 ext 4167 or email me at
bfbarbs1947@hotmail.com
Barbara

A video from main company site, to explain the member reward cards and how you make cash. It is on the left side, about half way down the site.
http://www.igi-art.com/igitv/index.htm

Also here is a typed explaination: It's not simple

HOW THE MEMBER REWARD CARDS WORK

A Member Reward Card (MRC) is created for every $100 spent on art. A corresponding "punch" is also generated by that $100, and it will be immediately assigned by the computer to punch a specific slot on an MRC that is already in the X-Press program.

For example, if a person buys $1,000 in art, they receive 10 MRC’s for their purchase. As each of these 10 MRC’s enters the X-Press program, it generates a punch. Therefore, this $1,000 art purchase generates a total of 10 punches.

The MRC’s and punches from this $1,000 purchase are numbered 1 through 10. The odd numbered MRC’s/punches (1,3,5,7,9) are called "magnetic" and they will punch the X-Press card of the Member who referred the new Member that just made the art purchase. The even numbered MRC’s/punches (2,4,6,8,10) are called "smart" and those punches will go into the global community that will be shared by other Members.

Following this equation and explanation, here are some examples of what will happen:

If you sponsor or refer a person that makes a $1,000 art purchase, you will receive 5 punches on your X-Press card(s) and the other 5 will go into the global community. If you sponsor a person that makes a $2,000 art purchase, you will receive 10 punches on your X-Press card(s) and the remaining 10 punches will go into the global community. When you refer a person that buys $5,000 of art, that Member will create 50 new MRC’s for themselves and will also generate 50 punches of which you (their referrer) will receive 25 punches and the other 25 punches will go to the global community.

Remember that each slot on every MRC has a different monetary amount that corresponds to that slot. When a slot is punched, the corresponding amount for that slot is paid to the Member who owns that MRC.

One of the most common questions that people ask is: "how much will I get paid if I sponsor a person that makes a $1,000 art purchase?" Here’s the answer: "you will receive a 5% Customer Referral Fee (CRF) of $50 plus 5 punches on your X-Press card(s). We can’t give you the exact dollar amount that you will earn from these punches because every slot has a different corresponding pay out. However, the 5% CRF can be easily calculated, just as the number of punches you will receive for having referred them.

Make note that the MRC’s do not necessarily get punched in numerical order. Also, an MRC does not have to be completely punched before another MRC starts receiving punches. This means that more than 1 MRC can be actively receiving punches. The computer knows where to assign the punches, and the assignment of punches is not anything that a Member can control. However, a Member can control the number of punches and the speed of punches that he/she will receive by referring more Members who buy art. This means that if a Member wants more punches on their MRC, they simply refer more Members who make art purchases.

Once an MRC has been completely punched (8 punches total) in the X-Press program, it is fully redeemed and the Member who owns that MRC will have been paid a total of $200 for that corresponding MRC. The instant that the MRC receives the last punch, it is immediately moved into the Bonus program. When this happens, it generates a punch that is assigned to the Bonus card of the Member who referred this person. This means that you will receive a punch on your Bonus card for every MRC that redeems for $200 in the X-Press program owned by the Members you refer. Therefore, if you referred a Member who purchased $1,000 in art, you will be waiting for 10 punches in the Bonus program. If you referred a Member who bought $2,000 in art, you will be waiting for 20 punches in the Bonus program, and if you referred a Member who purchased $5,000 in art, you’ll be waiting for 50 punches in the Bonus program! Unlike the X-Press program, the Bonus program has no global community. Therefore, you (the referrer/sponsor) will capture all the punches in the Bonus program that were generated by the purchases of all the Members you referred.

When an MRC redeems for $200 in the X-Press program and moves into the Bonus program, it immediately generates a punch on the Bonus card of the referring Member. At the same instant, the computer will also verify if the owner of the newly redeemed MRC is a fully qualified "Member." This means that the Member has purchased at least $600 in art and has already referred at least one other Member who also purchased $600 in art. If the Member has not done this, the newly redeemed MRC that has moved into the Bonus program will instantly "expire." Once a card has expired, it is gone and will not be reactivated. This does not affect the MRC’s remaining in the X-Press program that have not yet redeemed for $200 each. However, if the computer verifies that the owner of the newly redeemed MRC is a fully qualified "Member" then the Bonus card will remain, awaiting punches from their personal referrals.

The reason we say that a Member cannot earn money in the Bonus program unless they’ve met the qualifications including having referred a Member who purchased at least $600 is because they would not be awaiting any punches. If a Member has not referred another Member who has purchased art, there are no punches that will follow them into the Bonus program. This is the reason that the Bonus card expires.

Understanding the process of how MRC’s are punched will also clarify why Members who refer more people that buy more art, are able to earn more money; and the faster you refer these Members, the faster you make the money.

When the computer sees consistent activity of sponsoring, purchasing and repurchasing, you will earn more points that will give you the opportunity to receive more global punches.

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by New to the business

There are 2 major problems here:
1.) The criminal activities of Mr. Stan Leitner
2,) Processing of merchandise payments through Kenya (possible money laundering).

Additionally, 2 of IGI's officers, Mr. Paul Myer and Mr. Charles Whitbread, were both previously named in complaints, legal filings and investigations in Waco, McLennan County, Texas.

1)Explain to me why is it IGI's problem about Stan Leitner, when he has not been with IGI in almost 1 1/2 years. The complaint is for a company that Stan Leitner started after he resigned from IGI in April, 2004. Please see copy of email from IGI and SEC I have copied link below.
2) Once again no proof this has anything to do with IGI. Everyone else has had NO PAYMENTS THROUGH Kenya or an extra fee. This man needs to check for identity theft on his card. He was talking about an extra fee charge, not a merchandise payment from Kenya. No one we have checked with has this type of charge on their card from IGI. On our cards We just had our 1-time payment of art charge, no shipping fees, no fees at all from IGI.
3) Please post your proof of the complaints you claim happened in Waco, TX
on 2 of IGI's officers, Mr. Paul Myer and Mr. Charles Whitbread. I could not find anything online about these complaints. What were the complaints about? When were they filed - date? What was the outcome? Just because someone has filed a complaint against someonw does not make it true. So please provide us with the information. I will contact IGI with what you have provided so far, so I can get an answer from them.

Thank you.
___________________________________________
From : Support
Sent : Tuesday, July 19, 2005 1:50 PM
To :
Subject : FW: IGI Contact Form

| | | Inbox

Barbara,

The following is a response from Paul Myer, the CEO of our company.

Thanks,
Emily Tomaszewski
International Galleries, Inc.
(972) 919-2700


Yes, Stan Leitner was the original President and CEO of IGI although Paul Myer was the founder. Stan resigned from IGI in April 2004 and left to start another company at which time Paul Myer was named the CEO and President.

Yes, the SEC is investigating Stan's new company Megafund. IGI is not involved in any way with Stan's company or the investigation.

Stan Leitner has not been an officer or director since April of 2004. Nor is he a stockholder.

We, too, were surprised at the investigation. Stan is a long time friend and and we believe that this investigation will clear any charges of wrong doing.

http://sec.gov/litigation/complaints/comp19292.pdf
Copy of SEC complaint....

[homebuddy]

To bf1947:

You show Paul Meyer's response in which he states that Stan Leitner was not the founder of IGI. Well, at the link below, Stan claims that he was the founder.

The founder is important because he is the one who sets up policies, procedures, and in this case, that super complicated member reward card (or scheme).

One of these people, Stan or Paul, is lying.

http://www.autocycles.org/leitner.html

You will also note that the link to IGI Galleries from the above page will no longer work - IGI took down the page after I pointed it out. They cannot take down the above page however.

Also, if you follow the following link, you will find several interesting things about what is going on at 3744 Arapaho, the offices of IGI:

http://p067.ezboard.com/fdiligizerdu....topic&index=1

Among other things, corporate papers for Megafund are listed at 3744 Arapaho.

Also, the original principals of IGI are Stan Leitner, Stephen Marvin and Robert Fridd. Paul states that he was the founder, yet he is not listed here. Again, someone is lying. I think Paul Fridd is still at IGI - interesting.

[scambuster]

To artsales.igi....blah blah blah....
You are banned for 3 days. You may come back on 8/2 USING A DIFFERENT USERNAME.

[homebuddy]

To rf1947:

Help me to understand your cards:

If I buy 1 piece of art at $200, I get 2 cards, each with 8 slots. When I refer a customer who buys 1 piece of art at $200, he gets 2 cards and I get 1 punch. (The other goes into the pool). So, I would need to refer 16 people to get my 2 cards punched and get $400 in my E-Wallet. I would also get 5% of their purchases or 5% of $3,200 = $160. OK. That is a lot of referrals.

Well, I guess that they could purchase more to speed up the process, but back to my example: Those 16 people would need to refer 16 people each, and so on, unless they referred someone who spent more, but if they spent more, they would receive more cards and in turn need a greater number of people below them.

Now, you state that IGI pays out about 1/2 of what they take in (which means that I am paying twice what I should for the art), so in my example, I generated my $200 and my referrals $3200 in business. That means that you have about $1,700 to pay out to someone. I only got $560, so $1,140 is available in the pool to be spread around. Now, how do you allocate that - or do you give it to your favorite members?

Originally Posted by scambuster

To artsales.igi....blah blah blah....
You are banned for 3 days. You may come back on 8/2 USING A DIFFERENT USERNAME.

What, has it been three days already? It is good to be back. Scambuster I must thank you, I like the new username you picked out for me.
Since I know bothers you I will not even post my link, (In case you forgot this is the one I am talking about, ). :)

Signed,
artsales.blah_blah

P.S. You will be happy this is the first message I have posted here that I am not going to sign with the forbidden signature of . :)

Go to hell.

To address number 2. first - None of my payments or payments of anyone I know have gone through Kenya. All we have is an unsupported statement one person who may have been the victim of a crime totally unrelated to IGI.

Addressing number 1. - It has been stated to death that Stan Leitner is no longer associated with IGI. Any criminal activity that Stan Leitner may or may not be involved with is not related with IGI. As to Stan Leitner's guilt or innocence that is for the legal system to determine, not the message boards.

Pretty clever how you use your referral link as your username.

Well thank you!

It's also against forum rules. Goodbye.

Scambuster, come on now, you know it is polite to say "you're welcome" when someone thanks you. I guess I will let it slide this time since I know you were put out that I posted. I will try to remember to not post it again. :)

Signed,
artsales.blah_blah

P.S. Will you look at that this is the second post that I did not sign I think I may be catching on to what you want or do not want in posted messages. :)

Originally Posted by scambuster

To artsales.igi....blah blah blah....
You are banned for 3 days. You may come back on 8/2 USING A DIFFERENT USERNAME.

To all posters in this thread:

I am sorry for going off topic, I just had some things to say to "God", I mean, Scambuster. In all fairness though he/she was the first to go off topic. (see above)

Scambuster,

While I am on the subject (see following guote):
"GHOSTBUSTERS" and "GHOST DESIGN" are registered trademarks of Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc."
Your avatar is in violation of the law as well, which would put it in violation of "forum rules" You may want to edit your posts also. Scambuster, I must thank you for getting me interested in following the "forum rules". It is to bad that your avatar violates the "forum rules", and well, federal law, I kind of liked it. I am sure you could purchase the rights to use it from Columbia Pictures.

artsales.blah_blah

P.S. Anyone want to place a bet on how fast I get banned again?

[abfav]

I inquired about the compensation plan and someone was nice enough to send me the following. It is pretty long and I am still a bit confused. But here goes...

Here are some answers for you about how the cards work. The Team I work
with is very helpful to make sure eveyone understands how IGI works.
Explaining the cards is very complicated, so I have included the information
that our team emailed to everyone that best explains the reward cards,
titled "HOW THE MEMBER REWARD CARDS WORK".

I am also including a link to the IGI videos that explains about the cards.
It is 14 minutes long, but well worth watching to help you understand, it is
the one in the middle on left side. There is another video that explains
the company opportunity, one that explains how the art is made, and one that explains the art exchange.

I have been a member since April, but because of deaths in my family and a
dear friend killed in a plane crash in mid June, I have not worked the
business. But I have watched all those around me and watched them making
thousands. Now I am starting to work with the business.

The best way to learn about the business is to get on some of the conference calls, listen to the recordings explaining the company & business, watch the videos.

We do have an associate you can talk with that started with $200, and this
way you can see how well she is doing. I know she has brought in about 5
people. The ones that have moved fast in the company and our making the 5
and 6 figure incomes in a few months started out purchasing $5,000.
I will use Jeanne as an example: She started 2/28/05 and has now been paid
over $171,000. This figure does not include all bonuses paid to her. The
company does have a compliance sheet posted on the web site, that is updated weekly that shows what every Affiliate has made.

1-512-404-1256 - call by Jeanne made in April
1-800-460-6566 - company overview
1-800-242-0363 ext 4167 - to leave me a message- Barbara or email me back.

Tuesday - 7-26-05 - we had a conference call where 3 Affiliates were asked
how many people they have brought in to make the money they are making.
Jeanne was one of them, she has 16 people she is working with right now.
The other lady and man have about 10 each in their groups

It's not a numbers game, for you to bring in 100's of people, to make the
money, it's finding those who work the business and bring in other people
and the purchasing of art which you receive 1 Cash Reward Card for every
$100 you spend.

You ask about what to do with the art. There are many ideas starting to
float around on how to help each other out with all the art. Some are
talking about art galleries, or frame shops or different places like this to
sell them for you. One thing I have been thinking about is I hope I get to
a point I can offer, to purchase those pieces from you and others I would
have as business associates, who really do not want to sell the art, but
like the ways of making money. Some will be setting up online stores, that
might need your pieces. Right now if you get into the business, the company
has an art exchange they do at the conventions to help you sell your art.
This is one of the videos on the IGI site.

I hope this the following info helps to explain the Cash Reward Cards.
Please email me or call my 800. 1-800-242-0363 ext 4167 - Barbara
I am on the team with Jeanne and it is the fastest moving team in the
company. Jeanne, George, Chris, Tom, Gregg are great on helping everyone to learn the business and start earning the way they are with the MRC.

http://www.igi-art.com/igitv/index.htm MRC video in middle on left side.
__________________________________________________ ______________
" HOW THE MEMBER REWARD CARDS WORK "

A Member Reward Card (MRC) is created for every $100 spent on art. A
corresponding "punch" is also generated by that $100, and it will be
immediately assigned by the computer to punch a specific slot on an MRC that is already in the X-Press program.
For example, if a person buys $1,000 in art, they receive 10 MRC’s for their
purchase. As each of these 10 MRC’s enters the X-Press program, it generates a punch. Therefore, this $1,000 art purchase generates a total of 10 punches.

The MRC’s and punches from this $1,000 purchase are numbered 1 through 10.
The odd numbered MRC’s/punches (1,3,5,7,9) are called "magnetic" and they
will punch the X-Press card of the Member who referred the new Member that just made the art purchase. The even numbered MRC’s/punches (2,4,6,8,10) are called "smart" and those punches will go into the global community that will be shared by other Members.

Following this equation and explanation, here are some examples of what will
happen: If you sponsor or refer a person that makes a $1,000 art purchase, you will receive 5 punches on your X-Press card(s) and the other 5 will go into the global community. If you sponsor a person that makes a $2,000 art purchase, you will receive 10 punches on your X-Press card(s) and the remaining 10 punches will go into the global community. When you refer a person that buys $5,000 of art, that Member will create 50 new MRC’s for themselves and will also generate 50 punches of which you (their referrer) will receive 25 punches and the other 25 punches will go to the global community.

Remember that each slot on every MRC has a different monetary amount that
corresponds to that slot. When a slot is punched, the corresponding amount
for that slot is paid to the Member who owns that MRC.

One of the most common questions that people ask is: "how much will I get
paid if I sponsor a person that makes a $1,000 art purchase?" Here’s the
answer: "you will receive a 5% Customer Referral Fee (CRF) of $50 plus 5
punches on your X-Press card(s). We can’t give you the exact dollar amount
that you will earn from these punches because every slot has a different
corresponding pay out. However, the 5% CRF can be easily calculated, just as the number of punches you will receive for having referred them.

Make note that the MRC’s do not necessarily get punched in numerical order.
Also, an MRC does not have to be completely punched before another MRC
starts receiving punches. This means that more than 1 MRC can be actively
receiving punches. The computer knows where to assign the punches, and the assignment of punches is not anything that a Member can control. However, a member can control the number of punches and the speed of punches that he/she will receive by referring more Members who buy art. This means that if a Member wants more punches on their MRC, they simply refer more Members who make art purchases.

Once an MRC has been completely punched (8 punches total) in the X-Press
program, it is fully redeemed and the Member who owns that MRC will have
been paid a total of $200 for that corresponding MRC. The instant that the
MRC receives the last punch, it is immediately moved into the Bonus program.
When this happens, it generates a punch that is assigned to the Bonus card
of the Member who referred this person. This means that you will receive a
punch on your Bonus card for every MRC that redeems for $200 in the X-Press program owned by the Members you refer. Therefore, if you referred a Member who purchased $1,000 in art, you will be waiting for 10 punches in the Bonus program. If you referred a Member who bought $2,000 in art, you will be waiting for 20 punches in the Bonus program, and if you referred a Member who purchased $5,000 in art, you’ll be waiting for 50 punches in the Bonus program! Unlike the X-Press program, the Bonus program has no global
community. Therefore, you (the referrer/sponsor) will capture all the
punches in the Bonus program that were generated by the purchases of all the Members you referred.When an MRC redeems for $200 in the X-Press program and moves into the Bonus program, it immediately generates a punch on the Bonus card of the referring Member. At the same instant, the computer will also verify if the owner of the newly redeemed MRC is a fully qualified "Member." This means that the Member has purchased at least $600 in art and has already referred at least one other Member who also purchased $600 in art. If the Member has not done this, the newly redeemed MRC that has moved into the Bonus program will instantly "expire." Once a card has expired, it is gone and will not be reactivated. This does not affect the MRC’s remaining in the X-Press program that have not yet redeemed for $200 each. However, if the computer verifies that the owner of the newly redeemed MRC is a fully qualified "Member" then the Bonus card will remain, awaiting punches from their personal referrals.

The reason we say that a Member cannot earn money in the Bonus program
unless they’ve met the qualifications including having referred a Member who
purchased at least $600 is because they would not be awaiting any punches.
If a Member has not referred another Member who has purchased art, there are no punches that will follow them into the Bonus program. This is the reason that the Bonus card expires.

Understanding the process of how MRC’s are punched will also clarify why
Members who refer more people that buy more art, are able to earn more
money; and the faster you refer these Members, the faster you make the
money.

When the computer sees consistent activity of sponsoring, purchasing and
repurchasing, you will earn more points that will give you the opportunity
to receive more global punches.

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by homebuddy

To rf1947:

Help me to understand your cards:

If I buy 1 piece of art at $200, I get 2 cards, each with 8 slots. When I refer a customer who buys 1 piece of art at $200, he gets 2 cards and I get 1 punch. (The other goes into the pool). So, I would need to refer 16 people to get my 2 cards punched and get $400 in my E-Wallet. I would also get 5% of their purchases or 5% of $3,200 = $160. OK. That is a lot of referrals.

Well, I guess that they could purchase more to speed up the process, but back to my example: Those 16 people would need to refer 16 people each, and so on, unless they referred someone who spent more, but if they spent more, they would receive more cards and in turn need a greater number of people below them.

Now, you state that IGI pays out about 1/2 of what they take in (which means that I am paying twice what I should for the art), so in my example, I generated my $200 and my referrals $3200 in business. That means that you have about $1,700 to pay out to someone. I only got $560, so $1,140 is available in the pool to be spread around. Now, how do you allocate that - or do you give it to your favorite members?

The one key on how money is distributed is the time & date stamp of every Cash Card. The computer does all the work and figures payouts by the time and date stamp on every card. The affiliates to not allocate anything. Watch the video to help explain how the payout works. They are a lot more complicated to explain on paper, but easier to understand after watching the video's.

http://www.igi-art.com/igitv/index.htm
watch the video that show how it works.

[abfav]

I have read all about binaries, matrixes, etc... but this punch card thing is the most confusing thing I have ever heard of. I watched the movie explaining it but I think they leave out lots of details that were explained in print (I posted the description in a message on this board on 7.31.05).

Homebuddy posted a message that I will include below. I look forward to the explanation. I am interested in what IGI has to offer but I just don't understand how quickly I can make money and what I need to do to make that money ASAP. I have a few hundred to start with, not $5000 like in someone's earlier example. Thanks for responding.


Homebuddy said:
Help me to understand your cards:

If I buy 1 piece of art at $200, I get 2 cards, each with 8 slots. When I refer a customer who buys 1 piece of art at $200, he gets 2 cards and I get 1 punch. (The other goes into the pool). So, I would need to refer 16 people to get my 2 cards punched and get $400 in my E-Wallet. I would also get 5% of their purchases or 5% of $3,200 = $160. OK. That is a lot of referrals.

Well, I guess that they could purchase more to speed up the process, but back to my example: Those 16 people would need to refer 16 people each, and so on, unless they referred someone who spent more, but if they spent more, they would receive more cards and in turn need a greater number of people below them.

Now, you state that IGI pays out about 1/2 of what they take in (which means that I am paying twice what I should for the art), so in my example, I generated my $200 and my referrals $3200 in business. That means that you have about $1,700 to pay out to someone. I only got $560, so $1,140 is available in the pool to be spread around. Now, how do you allocate that - or do you give it to your favorite members?

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by duckmonkey

Boy did I buy IGI hook line and sinker.

They winned and dinned my wife and myself for two days. I was very impressed. They have it all, a nice gallery, nice people and all the right words for the new prospects.(Many people say they are making big money)

Then it happened. The pictures that were to be sent in two days are sent in two weeks. We receive 16 very expensive prints in 4 simple black tubes. Several of the prints were $1,000.00 each. Can you imagine my surprise at receiving this collectable art in tubes that give no special attention or respect to this limited addition art.

Limited edition art is initally a perceived value. When collectable art is treated without respect the average consumer wonders about it 's true potential value. I was told that over time, after purchasing more art, I would be happy having fewer tubes. I think NOT!!

One of the sold out limited edition art pieces came thru with ink spots in the upper right hand corner, two of the certificates of authenticity have black lines on them and one came wrinkled.

This is a complete lack of quality control!! Not a good thing when your dealing in art.
To their credit they are making good on all these problems.

Then I find out that the founder and prior CEO, Stanley Leitner, is charged with fraud. Not a good thing.

For those who say he is not the CEO, you are right, but he was when IGI started. IGI has been very good at distancing itself from him.

The thing that really hit home for me was when I received my credit card bill and there was an additional $150.00 charge as a transaction fee.

What's a transaction fee?? Well it turns out my order was run threw a bank in Kenya and the Kenyan bank charges this fee.

So here's the question. I go to Dallas Texas and purchase art that is made in Texas by an American company and my funds are run thru a bank out of the country and I pay a substantial fee for this. It just doesn't seem right. Is this an acceptable business practice? Why are my dollars going to a foreign country when I bought a product made in the good old USA???? By american artists, I might ad. Help me Mr Leitner. (or Mr Paul J Myer)

Seriously, proceed with caution, IGI looks good, but??????????

How would you feel if you bought a product from WalMart and found a transaction fee from a foreign bank (China) on your statement??? Would a 3% charge make a difference in your purchasing decision??

Just a little something to think about.

__________________________________________
IT IS NOT IGI DOING THIS FEE CHARGE.

I emailed IGI to ask about your complaint of a transaction fee. The fee is from the bank your Credit Card is through. Here is their reply:

From: Support
Sent: Mon 8/1/2005 2:42 PM
To: BARBARA FENSCH
Subject: RE: Charges from Kenya Bank

Barbara,

We are aware of this problem, however it is something that Visa and the banks charge and we have no control over. Please explain to him that we bank internationally to support our global markets. His best recourse is to dispute it with his bank. The reason the other people have not been charged that fee, is because their bank chose not to pass along the international Visa surcharge to their customers. Also, you can let him know that we have a Visa rep that we are working through to try and get this resolved, but it is a lengthy process with Visa and the banking industry.

Thanks,
Emily Tomaszewski
International Galleries, Inc.
(972) 919-2700

CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY
Your Quote:
The thing that really hit home for me was when I received my credit card bill and there was an additional $150.00 charge as a transaction fee.

What's a transaction fee?? Well it turns out my order was run threw a bank in Kenya and the Kenyan bank charges this fee.

YOU NEED TO CALL YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY, IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY.

The good thing is I am learning a lot on how to help the people I bring into the business to understand IGI.

[ohein56]

Sure does seem to be ALOT of red flags here W/IGI, ie;Stan L., reward punch cards(yikes?!), additioinal "international" fees, very "limited" market, offshore banking, quality control probs etc... !?? Good luck to all involved! I believe you'll need it!

Over the years, Iv'e seen many "promising" companies/products come and go, this has all the earmarks of one that won't last for the long haul. IMHO

[homebuddy]

To bf1947 -
I cannot believe my eyes - IGI banks internationally to support their global markets? Surely no one believes this. They recieve an order in Addison, Texas and their bank processes this charge in Kenya. Do you honestly think people are stupid?

And about their card (scam) - that mysterious computer you mention is programmed to do what the programmer wants it to do. You mention date and time stamps - well then just tell us exactly how the program uses this information to punch a card. It appears that it is kept confusing and "under covers" to protect the company.

As I pointed out before, this was all set up by Stan Leitner - and now he is indicted for fraud in his scheme to move money out of the country. I wonder where IGI's bank accounts really are.

As for your success stories - well any outfit like this needs some "success" stories to use as bait to get others to buy their "art". (I've seen your art and cannot believe anyone would buy it.)

[CPA4]

All I need to know about the company is that it allows people with teh mindset of artsales.blah_blah to represent it.

I am always a representative of my CPA firm when I am out. I am a representative of my CPA firm on this forum. That a representative of a supposed legit business would act in a manner of a 5 year-old is amusing.

Sorry if this is a legit business, but blah_blah has caused me to doubt.

[bf1947]

Originally Posted by homebuddy

To bf1947 -
I cannot believe my eyes - IGI banks internationally to support their global markets? Surely no one believes this. They recieve an order in Addison, Texas and their bank processes this charge in Kenya. Do you honestly think people are stupid?

And about their card (scam) - that mysterious computer you mention is programmed to do what the programmer wants it to do. You mention date and time stamps - well then just tell us exactly how the program uses this information to punch a card. It appears that it is kept confusing and "under covers" to protect the company.

As I pointed out before, this was all set up by Stan Leitner - and now he is indicted for fraud in his scheme to move money out of the country. I wonder where IGI's bank accounts really are.

As for your success stories - well any outfit like this needs some "success" stories to use as bait to get others to buy their "art". (I've seen your art and cannot believe anyone would buy it.)

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To homebuddy:

Maybe you need to open up your eyes...and reread what it says!
This is what I posted from IGI:
We are aware of this problem, however it is something that Visa and the banks charge, and we have no control over. Please explain to him that we bank internationally to support our global markets. His best recourse is to dispute it with his bank.
Also, you can let him know that we have a Visa rep that we are working through to try and get this resolved, but it is a lengthy process with Visa and the banking industry.

If IGI was not trying to be up front about the credit card fee, they would have denied the whole thing. Instead they said they are aware of the problem, they have no control over this, and they are working with the Visa Card Company.

The Kenya card Charge was NOT DONE BY IGI, but BY the CREDIT CARD COMPANY BANK. Visa Cards use banks all over the world, as does IGI. As IGI said he needs to Call his Credit Card Company and talk with them about this charge. IGI started in the USA, but they are also in the countries of Mexico, Hong Kong, and England in July. That is why they now deal with world banks. IGI plans to be world wide in almost every country in 2 plus years. You said "Do they think people are stupid", NO, but when you deal with other countries your banking is done with a bank that works world wide. Did you even know IGI was in other countries?? Don't forget we are in the computer age and depending on the program used, the charge could be made in the country of England and applied in a bank in Hong Kong. I can tell by your remarks you have never worked with banks that are banking in other countries and global. I also know from past experience that Credit Card Company's will charge you fees and you have to watch where or how they are putting your charge through their system, and they will put your charge through banks all around the world if you are purchasing from a company that sells global. I worked at a large Steel Corporation (Cyclops out of Pittsburgh) and IBM and we delt global for years and it would be a chore to figure out some of the extra fees to make sure they were needed for what was purchased.

Stan Leitner has not been with IGI for almost 1 1/2 years. Why is IGI
responsible for a problem Stan got himself into 1 year after he left IGI? It is with
a different company Stan started! IGI is not listed in the SEC charge. It has nothing to do with IGI.

Let me ask you this for example:
Are you responsible for everyone you ever associated with that has a charge against them for something that happened after you associated with them?
And sometimes you can still be with them friend etc., but have no idea what they were doing. [B]Are you responsible when you [/b] got divorced and your ex spouse got in trouble a year after your divorce and went to jail? If what you say is true, then shouldn't you be responsible because you used to be married to them, even though it happened after you divorced? Are you responsible for a sibling or parent who gets in trouble and you live in the same house, but you had no idea what they were doing? Use common sense!!!! It works the same way in business, as it does in your personal life. A company has no way of knowing what each individual does or is doing each minute of the day while they are employed. And after they leave that company, they for sure have no way of knowing what that person is doing.

How do we know you even know what you are talking about? What do you
do since you are a homebuddy? You like to put your own little twist to
everything or be negative and you say you have seen the art, then how? Did you purchase some? This art is very much like the pieces you see in all the art museums around the world. The pieces I have are all very well done. The man whose piece had the black ink, he said they were replacing it for him. How often do people buy a phone, a DVD, an Automobile or most anything that is purchased, and they break down, or there was a flaw in them when they took it home? One of the Automobile companies recently recalled over 800,000 vehicles because of faulty airbags. Things do slip through once in awhile, but a good company will take care of it, which this man said IGI was replacing the piece for him. I and many others have had no problem with the quality of the art. It is excellent. I would say you probably have no idea how to judge art or you probably don't even like art.

Have you heard of Thomas Kincaid ?? He is an artist who owns the largest art gallery in the world and a well known artist. You see him in many magazines. His daughter is one of IGI's artists. He has raved about the quality of the paintings and the artists that IGI is using. Why don't you Get a free site at IGI, and just sit and watch it for a year? Learn about the company.

The cards: Have you ever heard of A PATENT?? They don't want competitors knowing how everything works in the beginning and No company does. Star Bucks Coffee, Subway sandwich's have cards you punch for free coffee or free food, clothing companies discounts 1/2 off of clothes, rebates offered by many companies, Cell phone rebates or prices off phones, Rebates of $600 to $2,000 or more by Automobile companies. I don't hear people complain because they get these things free or money back. People this idea is used by just about every company for every product you purchase from around the world. All products are marked up about 500% when they go onto the store shelves. How else can they give you the 25%, 30%, 50%, 75% sales or discounts on clothes and other items and still make money, if they don't mark up prices to begin? Sales reps receive bonuses and rewards in about every company I have ever known. Sears, Macy's, etc., department stores all give bonuses and rewards to their Sales Reps for promotions of products. The Automobile industry, Cell phone industry etc., all give bonuses or rewards, prizes to their Sales reps. And in IGI Affiliate Members, Members etc., are the Sales reps and receive bonuses, rewards, prizes for their efforts. IGI works the same as every other business out there, except they are letting us work at home and letting everyone in on how it works. It is a Direct Sales Company.

If you want a work at home company that is working (if you work it, which you have to do no matter what company you work for, if you want to make a living) then sign up for a free web site. IGI is working for it's members that promote it. Check everything out, take your time, read up about it. Go on the site weekly and check the compliance members earnings and see what they are making weekly. Every members earnings, after they have sold to one person, are on the web site under compliance. I know of no other company that lists what it's sales people are making. Watch the company and it's people move up in earnings for 3 month, 6 months, 10 months, 12 months. The site is free. You never have to sell or purchase anything. You can just sit and watch how well the company is doing and the people who decided to take a chance and work the business. It's like any business, if you work the business it will work for you. Email me if you would like more information.