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The Matrix
The filmmakers, the Wachowski brothers, were inspired from another world in my view.
What is so quirky is that in the 10-D worlds that I am familiar with, there is a Matrix-like battle taking place that the storyline of the film follows very accurately.
The Matrix is a modern Bible story, in that it tells the time-old story of the death and the resurrection of the initiate, who becomes the savior.
It isn’t a particularly feminine film in that it is rather violent and high-tech. But everyone on the spiritual path should see it.
It will teach you about the morphe and the state of our humanity, as seen from a transdimensional view. The premise of the film says that the world is controlled by transdimensional beings who have installed a computer-generated program around humanity that effectively throws a net of absolute control over us.
The filmmaker’s rendition of the computer-generated matrix as green symbols that tumble down a computer screen is a fairly good effort. In the 10-D morphe, I have seen the matrix as a series of dots, they seem perfectly spaced out, and they permeate a room from front to back, floor to ceiling. In the Matrix, the unseen controllers of humanity have a police force called, ‘Agents’.
Morpheus, the father figure in the film, talks of the ***** of the agents saying,” they are the gatekeepers; they are guarding all the doors. They are holding all the keys." This is true in our world. Even though almost no one knows it and few would accept it.
Here in the etheric of this dimension, there are entities all around us, they are the masters of our human evolution, and they feed orders to the controllers of this world.
Our leaders are puppets of a demonic *****, one that is all around us. The etheric ghouls are everywhere. They are very secretive and they have a vast numerical superiority.
Have you ever wondered why, whenever you tried to break out of restriction it seemed like the world was against you?
When you embarked on a plan that was holy and good, unexplainable things went wrong, or someone got in the middle of your plan and did their best to make sure your failed, or at least they acted to make sure your journey was uphill all the way.
It’s them—the etheric ghouls, sending in their human foot soldiers, to make sure there are no exits for humanity.
If these things happened to you I feel sorry for you, it’s been the story of my life, so I know.
And like me, you probably got down on yourself and you wondered what was wrong with your ****** and why you failed. Perhaps you set yourself a task that was too big for you but more than likely you would have done just fine if the ghouls had not gotten in your way.
As the heroine in the Matrix says to herself when she’s momentarily winded coming through a window, "Get up Trinity, get up!" There’s an etheric war on. Trust me. Stand up.
The Wachowski brothers’ film describes the war against the matrix and the agents, and that same war is being fought today.
It’s the unsung heroes of our humanity fighting against what seems to be as insurmountable odds—God’s gladiators.
There is help on the way. Thousands of people all round the world are experiencing sensations and seeing things in the etheric they never saw before. They are part of a massive army that is walking across from 3-D toward 10-D, albeit hesitantly at first.
There is a huge shift going on. What does it mean? It means that something up there loves us and is trying to get us to open our eyes and see for the first time. It’s all there in the film.
Goodness knows how it got there. From deep inside the filmmakers’ souls ?where all things exist as one.
Someone, somewhere, is talking about the demise of the matrix and our escape. The key to the film is at the end after Neo, the hero, has been shot.
Trinity breathes over him and she says, "I am not afraid anymore… so you see, you can’t be dead, you can’t be, because I love you. You hear me? I love you." Then she kisses him and says, "Now get up." It’s the most beautiful scene in the film. It’s where the love of the Goddess revives the comatose God. She resurrects the wounded male (the ego) and kisses him, bringing him back to life.
The ability is in her selflessness. It’s part of her compassion, her eternal kindness. Males can do the same when they stand inside the feminine spirit that is within them. The resurrection is the same for you as it is for Neo in the film. Once you are no longer scared, the forces of control can’t feed off you.
The hold over you and your life breaks down. Watch the Matrix even if you have seen it before. There are hundreds of symbols in the film. How they got there, I don’t know. It’s irrelevant. It’s all there, albeit as an allegory. It’s the story of the return of Jesus.
The hero, Neo, dies in room 303. Thirty-three is the number of the initiate. Zero is the feminine principle—eternity. So 303 is the initiate embracing eternity. Neo’s bedroom, where he hacks away on his computer, is room 101. Eleven is the number of the master builder.
So early on in the film, Neo is the master builder working around eternity. Look at the silver, chalice-type cup on Reineheart’s desk. Notice the gold lining of Neo and Mr. Smith’s jackets—El Dorado, the golden one; the initiate who doesn’t know he is an initiate.
When Neo goes into ‘replication’, he is covered in mercury.
They inject the same fluid into Morpheus’ neck. Mercury is the alchemic fire. Neo wears a plum red blanket as he climbs the stairs to meet the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar. Why plum red? Watch the large rabbits on the television behind the Indigo kids—what do they mean?
Listen to the Oracle; she talks about the true nature of fate, free will, and time. Look for one of God’s Gladiators.
He’s pretending to be blind. He nods when Morpheus and Neo walk out of the elevator. Did you see the number three?
It appears many times, especially in the railway station where the last fights take place. It’s the trinity. Look at the graffiti to the right of Neo as Mr. Smith throws him up against the wall. What does it say?
Shadow. Whose shadow?
Are Neo and Mr. Smith one and the same?
The Matrix is the story of the Holy Trinity. Morpheus is John the Baptist.
Neo is the son. He is referred to as Jesus several times in the film, though the reference is masked. The female character Trinity is the divine goddess, Mary Magdalene, the feminine principle that was excluded from our Holy Trinity by the male writers of Christian dogma.
The Christian idea of the Holy Ghost is a concoction—misinformation used to disem***** the female’s rightful place at the top of the trinity. There is no Holy Ghost. The idea is a lie.
Ghosts are the astral image of dead people in the etheric, this side of 10-D. There is nothing holy about them. They are lost. Over two decades, we came to know so much about the etheric and its entities we felt we were ready to take them on. There are lots of groups fighting the entities all over the world. I can only speak for what I know.
We would never have made any headway if we had not been massively helped by entities on the other side that wanted to see the ghouls destroyed as much as we do.
For the most part, they are angelic beings of a fractal nature with enormous *****. The problem they had was they couldn’t get into the earth dimension while the matrix was intact.
The matrix had to be penetrated, not only to relieve the suffocation humanity feels, but mostly to allow the helpers to get in. The War of the Worlds couldn’t begin until there was a crack in the ghoul’s cosmic egg. Remember the ghouls have absolute control here, there is no question of that, I’ve seen it over and over.
In the Matrix, Morpheus and the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar, constantly have a problem with the agents hacking into their phone lines knowing what is going on. We have had the same problems in communicating with 10-D.
fractal entities could show us how to make a move on the ghouls but anything they showed us, they also showed to the ghouls. Whatever we had in our human mind is an open book, so everything we did was blocked, or more often than not, the ghouls got in the way, feeding us contradictory information.
It took us ages to figure out what was real and what was not. But here is the good news. Just as Neo figures how to beat the Agents and he becomes more *****ful than the agents, the same is happening here. The Matrix has been broken and within weeks of that happening, we had 9.11. On the surface it looks like a few Muslims got angry at America’s support of the Jews.
But 9.11 is much more than that. It signals the beginning of the end for the New World Order and the kingdom of the etheric ghouls. Many citizens will mourn the passing of the dark empire for they are the ones that benefit, and they will attempt to sustain the status quo, imagining as all tyrants do, that they are right and nothing can possibly go wrong.
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05-26-2005, 08:51 PM
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Re: The Matrix
The American Fourth Reich as I call it, with their punitive laws, surveillance, violence, hatred, and their new SS unit, the Office of Homeland Security, with its Gestapo-like *****s of arrest and detention without trial, is not a good thing.
But all the bullying and nastiness of the goons of the American Reich will only last about as long as Hitler did—twelve years. As they fall, their partners in Europe and the rest of the world will tumble with them. For most of our industrial societies make a living tending to the consumption of America. The clock is ticking.
Then again, you must never confuse ordinary citizens with their governments. I’ve met a heck lot of Americans that are honest, peace loving and decent, so the ideals of the Founding Fathers are not lost.
They are just in hiding—I believe that they will prevail but the ***** of Babylon has to fall first.
Perhaps the sudden appearance of the 10-D morphe in our world really is God’s kingdom overlaying itself on the matrix of this 3-D reality. If that happens then goodness, softness, and a proper justice will prevail. That is good for us all.
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In the film The Matrix, when the hero Neo is told about the nature of the matrix and the invisible control over humanity, he throws up. He finds it impossible to accept that he has been living in a dream world under the control of a transdimensional influence that acts as the ultimate secret government. I find the film eerie in its accuracy.
Like Neo, people can’t see it yet. They don’t get that there is a takeover going on. It’s driven by television and the media that is enabling the subjugation of our societies under the absolute ***** of the fat controllers, to borrow a term from Thomas the Tank Engine. The media is the voice of ghoulish sentiments, violence and revenge, but most of all it is the voice of absolute control. It’s the way the status quo sustains society along its parameters. There is nothing reasonable about the people who control us.
They are demonic fools, puppets of the etheric, who will sell their citizens into bondage for *****, recognition, and money. They tell themselves they are helping people, that control, uniformity and the absolute ***** of the state is a good thing. It’s the nature of tyrants to lie and obscure the truth.
The phony war on terror is a concoction of the ghoul’s making, it allows the neo-Nazis to close the last door of hope for humanity. People are brainwashed by the media into thinking that the new arrest without trial laws will keep them safe, so they can grow fat and consume and waddle about unimpeded. It won’t work. By the time they hear the knock on the door, it will be too late for many. This world is nasty and getting nastier.
In the west, we are sold the idea that it’s all to do with Muslim terrorists, they are the bad guys. We don’t see that the terrorists are fighting the evil empire, our society is that evil, it is the empire of the ghouls. The terrorist lives in simple ways, honoring god, and he’s prepared to give his life for the struggle. I don’t agree with violence but you can see how the Muslim terrorist offers a stark contrast to our western ideals. What is our world built on? It’s built on egocentric ideals of self-importance, elitism, glamour, the chosen ones, arrogance, violence, dog-eat-dog, and the absolute financial and political control of humanity.
We worship at the altar of obscene levels of consumption and a callous disregard for the well being of the planet and others. There seems to be no god in our western world, save the arrogance of the ego that will attempt to make itself into a god.
Ours is a house of cards built on lies and more lies. Even now, you can see how it cannot last forever, for our system is built on ideals that are devilish. That is not to say terrorism will win, it’s just saying we are bound to lose. We are in a Matrix, one that I believe is sustained by etheric beings who have captured a large part of the soul of humanity.
But even if you don’t accept the etheric idea, you can see we are under the control of a new totalitarianism. The western media speaks with one voice, reflecting the ideals of the American-Jewish alliance, and the interests of the industrial-military machine. There is no voice for those of us who still hold to benevolence and fairness, those of us that still have a love and a care for this planet and its humanity. Our modern leaders, Bush, Blair, and the others, will eventually become the most reviled leaders in the planet’s history. People don’t see it yet. We are being sold into slavery. Citizens are fed the party line by the likes of CNN, who with the other western media networks are the official voice of the New World Order.
Their lies are blatant and repeated over and over. It’s hard for people to realize they are being set up to accept totalitarianism without any means of protest. The new anti-spam laws enacted by countries like Australia are sold to us as part of protecting our privacy, but in fact, it’s part of the control. The state machine doesn’t want anyone with contradictory facts talking to millions of citizens via their computers. It’s so clever, isn’t it? If you look in your heart and there are questions there, be brave, don’t sell out to vengeance and more control, even if there is nothing you can do about it.
Hold to your ideals of goodness and fairness, and a love of God and humanity. Join with others of like-mind, tell them to be brave and not to despair. No totalitarian regime has ever lasted and the New World Order is no exception. When it falls, do you want to look back and see that you colluded and collaborated with state sponsored nastiness? How will you explain yourself to your god? This is a test. It’s the ultimate test in a way.
Everyone can pretend to love God when there is no pressure, but what about when the heat is on and you have to go against the herd to stand for your ideals? I don’t profess to know much about the Bible but didn’t Jesus say something like, "When two or more are gathered in my name, I will be there." Wasn’t the name of Jesus synonymous with courage, non-violent protest, love, and a benevolence and tolerance for all? If you hold to these ideals, I for one will stand with you. If on the other hand you don’t care for these sentiments, I have no hatred for you, but I can tell you as sure as eggs is eggs, you won’t last.
Stuart Wilde.
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05-26-2005, 09:31 PM
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Re: The Matrix
Stuie -- Ponder on this. Who created the ghouls and other nasties in the etheric in the first place?
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05-26-2005, 11:07 PM
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Re: The Matrix
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Originally Posted by ComplexKid
Stuie -- Ponder on this. Who created the ghouls and other nasties in the etheric in the first place?
Cheers -
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In the Matrix, Morpheus talks about the feilds upon feilds, which he says exercise complet control over humanity by placing us in a 'constructed reality' of the feilds (Sphere's) own making. Humans are oblivious to the horrifying reality that a superior force is controlling their lives.
They are not aware that they sustain a computer generated simulation, which appears to them as daily life.
Our reality is very similar. We are in a electronic prision, an electromagnetic feild that is being controlled by devilish authority.
In the Matrix, the computer generated reality is sustained by unamed AI controllers with super human *****s. These feilds and life on Earth are desighned to support the needs of the superior beings.
In the film humans are grown for their body heat as BTUs (british Thermal Units).
It's the heat and vitality of humans that sustain the feilds and provide ***** to the AI Controlers. Humans are grown as a crop to sustain the feild without humankind ever suspecting the truth.
In 2000, I met a very knowledgeable scientist who talked about feilds on feilds.
He said that they have come about as a result of humanity's emotions and thought forms over the ages, but the feilds have their own identity, their own evolution.
He said they feed of humanity for their own sustenance. By feeding off humanity the feilds attempt to sustain a false immortality.
He said the feilds' intrinsic nature is one of control.
Just as a magnet controls iron filings, arranging them in orderly patterns.
The feilds have become stronger and stronger as the world's population has increased dramatically since world war 11 and as people's ****** has risen and activity increased. As we are more aware, more individual, and more complex and more mobil, so the strength of the controlling feilds has grown.
Inside the feilds are entities that have *****ed within it.
Whether these entities are birthed inside the feild or whethere they are transdimensional from another dimension who are attracted to the feild for sustence, we don't know as yet. Of caurse, the idea of an entity birthed inside a feild is not foreign to us.
Our human body is in an electronmagnetic field, as is the whole earth plane, and we are birthed here.The idea that there might be other feilds and other entitites, while 'way out' to some, is fairly obvious to others.
Microbes, for example, are an evolution invisible to the human eye that remained hidden untill we invented microscopes *****full enough to see them. They are a hidden evolution.
Remember this; the cells of your body are only about 10 percent human, the other 90 percent is microbe that live on and in your body.
considering it to be their home planet as we consider Earth to be our home.
Just as microbe are not human the entities that live inside earths etheric are not human.
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05-27-2005, 12:04 AM
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Re: The Matrix
Not bad. But maybe I'm saying that cos we're almost in agreement on that one ;)
I'd say I think we could've done a bit better with the broken shards of creation, but it's pointless--thing is, we have to start doing better with them now.
Do you ever get the feeling that we're kids playing not with matches, but with atomic weapons? I do.
Thanks for posting--always enjoy your essays.
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05-27-2005, 02:57 AM
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Re: The Matrix
Want to make a run for freedom ?
First, there is no run for freedom until you see the Sphere for what it is.
Comprehending it all at once is a daunting task. All the popular information you receive is a lie, or it is sold to you backwards. The rest is couched in resonableness (dont rock the boat )or it's offered with platitudes - ahh, but what about this and that ?
It's all apart of the barbed wire. We like restiction. It helps us feel in control of our lives. It's vital for the mind to feel it is in charge - poor thing. Freedom is the wide-open space of 'anything can happen.' Most don't like lives where anything can happen. They want to be sure where they will be and what they will be doing months from now.
The first time I experienced true freedom I was terrified. I was about 30 years old, and one day I found myself in a trance, hovering in all eternity with nothing under me to hold me up, just an eternal depth below. I got over it.
Ponder how you will make your run for freedom. Right now I doubt you could hack it , except in the most superficial, intellectual way. you can't really get it with your mind, It's deliberately obscurred and hidden.
First, I ought to tell you what stands in your way, as a seemingly superior force stands at the gates of the prison. Never mind the human guards and social mores, regulations, and obligations, the camp commandant, or your free will - beyond is something that is something seriously spooky.
So you think you can handle this stuff ?
wanna come look ?
As Cypher says in The Matrix, "It means buckle you seat belt Dorothy, Kansas is going bye,bye."
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06-09-2005, 05:30 AM
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Re: The Matrix
When the first Matrix film came out I watched it more than fifty times. It is the story of the death of the initiate and the eventual redemption of humanity. It many ways, it is the story of Jesus. I wanted to be sure I knew it and understood it. As time went on I became ever more fascinated. I came to see that the Wachowski brothers were probably fed the Matrix script from another world. This is because through the lens of the Morph we have seen maybe twenty aspects from the Matrix story actually happen to us here on earth, each is one more extraordinary than the next.
For example, when in the film Neo touches the mirror and he slides down a tube into another world that is very accurate in real life. Neo slid down at an angle and he made several turns. In the Morph-worlds that we watch in trance, we fall straight down legs first, then we make an involuntary 90° right-hand twist before the bottom. The fall lasts about four to five seconds. The first time it happened to me I was utterly terrified; I expected to hit the bottom and die. I didn’t realize I was moving into another dimension. We call that place the fally-down world. It feels like it’s under your feet but a thousand feet down.
Often it is very hard to work out what is here and real as we know it and what belongs to the other worlds–the two dimensions are one and the same really. If a being touches you over there in the mirror-world on the knee say, you feel it press your physical knee here. When Mouse from the Matrix was killed in the real world, he died back at the ship. Likewise, if someone whacks you in the mirror-world it causes a bruise here, or it aches for a few days. When the Morph phenomena first came in (March 2001), the females started to get bruises on their legs about the size of a quarter.
Sometimes the bruises came in threes making a triangular shape. It is very mysterious, it lasted for over two years. We never discovered why only the women had the bruises. The transdimensional ghouls are everywhere; they fight you all the way both over there and here. Sometimes you have to cross their world, it’s ugly. You take a few direct hits and it hurts.
Another thing we have seen in the Morph that is exactly from the Matrix is the green screen. Our version from inside the Morph is not quite a TV monitor, the one we have seen comes down over your eyes instantly like a blast shield. Then letters and numbers tumble down the back of the shield just as they tumble down the monitors in the film. You can see the green screen from the Morph with your eyes open or shut.
The Squiddies in the Matrix are also very real here, though some of the ones we have seen are a lot smaller than the ones in the film. We’ve seen Squiddie-type beings in this world that are green, red and black, and they have the same, strange pumping legs as the Matrix Squiddies do. Except that some of the Morph Squiddies we have seen here in 3-D are only about three inches long and fat like a sausage roll. They appear from nowhere and hover in the room in mid-air. I tried to grab the first one I saw but I missed. It kept moving up toward the ceiling just out of reach.
There are also Squiddies here that are much larger than the sausage roll type; they are about the size of a basketball or slightly bigger. Again, they can be seen with the naked eye, they look like flying blobs. You can follow them up to about a thousand feet in the air but when they go higher you lose them in the glare of daylight. Recently, those flying blobs have come lower and I have seen them close to the ground or at roof top level.
The evil Mr. Smith morphs in and out of anyone he wants, increasing his ***** by taking over people’s mind and body and replicating his program. The capture of humans in this world is a common every-day occurrence. Through the Morph you can see quite clearly how people’s body and souls have been taken. There are billions of people wandering about this earth that have been abducted by evil that are now part of its over-all program.* Those people are oblivious of any problems, it’s all hidden away from them.
The ghouls and/or the possessed humans can bounce a pulse to hit anyone, anywhere here in 3-D, even when you are strolling up the street. What is so extraordinary is that like Mr. Smith, who could move into anyone he chose, the ghouls can use their humans to ricochet an electric pulse and hit you up to thirty yards away.
They can see where any particular human is at any given minute and if one of their people is close to you they bounce the pulse off them; they go for the private parts of women and the anus in men. When they hit, which is fairly often, it sometimes leaves a small red triangular mark on your skin. It’s very painful especially when they get you someplace sensitive. At the height of the ghoul-wars (mid-2001 through to March 2004), we’d get hit eight to ten times a day. It’s down to once or twice a week now.
In the Matrix film, the bi-location/dematerialization pattern that comes over the heroes via the telephone has only been partially seen here in this world. The patterns we have seen are fractal geometries of many colors that appear spontaneously on the skin. They are easy to see because the patterns are alive and oscillating very fast.
A partial dematerialization follows a few minutes later but no one has ever disappeared completely to our knowledge. The first time we saw that geometric morph was in March 2001. Sometimes, the dematerialization comes about without the colored fractal patterns. We’ve seen that partial dematerialization many hundreds of times and one of my mates can do it at will. It has been successfully photographed twice.
Another example from the Matrix story that we have experienced here in this world is from the scene where Neo first arrives on the Nebuchadnezzar; he comes up from below freezing cold, wrapped in a purple blanket. He is recovering from having traveled through dimensions.
Cypher see that he is unwell and says, “He’s going to pop” and then Neo throws up on the floor. Three of us have had the same cryogenic freezing eight times in total over three years. The freezing comes on in a matter of minutes; it is usually accompanied by spontaneous vomiting. The coldness is beyond words, even the warmth of a blazing fire and hot ***** bottles don’t change your body temperature one little bit.
The cryogenic freezing doesn’t usually last much over ninety minutes. But it is very uncomfortable when it is happening, painfully so. I’ve said before, hell is cold not hot. It is possible that the freezing takes place when one is traveling through a dimension that is particularly hellish. I can’t come up with a better explanation right now. I haven’t had the freezing since January 2003 so I’m not an expert on it.
When Neo first arrives on the subterranean craft his muscles have atrophied and so his body is rebuilt using exotic needles, while he lays in trance in a Perspex or glass tube. Many of us have been through that kind of experience. It wasn’t needles exactly that we received but it was similar. Sometimes you feel an intense prickling sensation and you can watch your skin rejuvenate in a matter of twenty minutes. Scars, freckles and blotches start to morph and disappear and your hand becomes very healthy and creamy looking. Sometimes your muscles become rock hard as if you’ve been working out in the gym.
Other times, the healing is less obvious and it feels as if three balls of ****** about the size of golf balls, sometimes bigger, are traveling around the body stopping in various places. Sometimes you feel it as a wave-like motion that moves slowly around usually starting at your feet. I call it ‘the snake’ because it tickles as if there is a small snake traveling around inside your muscles. Some of the healing feels like unexplainable pressure or sudden heat on various parts of the body.
The most spectacular healing is when beings appear and perform operations on your other-self in the mirror-world. You can watch them in trance while they work on you. It evokes a sense of awe and gratitude. If you are well in the mirror-world, you will be well here.
One day, this form of etheric, inner-world healing will become normal but right now we don’t know enough about it or how to call the beings in. But I know of many hundreds of people who have experienced one or more of the healing events described here and there are people researching it to see what can be delivered effectively on a regular basis and what can’t.
The main problem is we don’t command the Morph, it commands itself and it does whatever it wants to do. We are the mice, the lady in the white coat has the clipboard. Just kiddin’ but there are superior beings behind the whole Morph phenomena. They dictate what parts we see and experience and what parts we don’t. The healing is coming but not before it is allowed.
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06-09-2005, 05:31 AM
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Re: The Matrix
The most extraordinary scene from the Matrix film that has also been seen here is when Trinity is shot and Neo goes into his holographic form and he touches Trinity and she also goes holographic and he puts his hand inside her and removes the bullet. That scene from the film is almost an exact replica of a healing Morph experience I’ve had here with a few slight differences. When I saw it and experienced it, the holographic-self took three days to come in. It felt like champagne bubbles tingling on my skin.
On the last day, I lay on my bed for four hours watching the experience and then I felt myself go entirely holographic. Somehow my left hand moved without my directing it. Coming in from above me on the left hand side, it very gracefully and slowly entered my chest on the diagonal going across to the lower part of my right lung. There it scrapped away some tissue and seconds later it came out of my body the same way it had gone in. I was stunned. I could feel my holographic hand all the time it was inside my lung––strange but true.
There are many other correlations from the Matrix films that myself and others have seen or experienced here in this world, but I don’t want to go and on. Some include running up the side-wall as Trinity does at the Heart of the City Hotel, the dance at Zion and the mushrooms, the attack of the Squiddies on Zion as they come through the roof, the needle in Morpheus’ neck, the silver spoon, and the clipping of the connectors into the back of the heroes’ heads. We call that bun head. None of us have ever seen the Oracle but that is not to say she doesn’t exist here on earth; almost all of the other characters are probably here, perhaps the exceptions being the Architect and the Key Maker. I think they were added, as a bit of fluff to pad out the second film so it would bridge across to the third film, which was Armageddon, the final battle.
Maybe in a year or so I’ll do another Matrix update especially if anymore of the film’s events blip through to here in 3-D. Bye for now.
Stuart Wilde
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06-09-2005, 08:17 PM
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i'm with ya stu!!for now!!glatu verada nicto!!hehe!!i finally read this thread because i love the movie the matrix!!only watched it 3 times so far!!OK!answer me this!why was everyone disapointed(myself included) with the ending of the series!!and cant read this whole thread at once!!but the first post where you state the holy ghost does not exist i must say you are taking the term wrongly!i feel it means to imply that the spirit world includes realm of ghosts!!and so implys that the holy ghost(spirit) is all encompassing!reaches to the ends of it all!christ preached in hell!?!hehe!!cary on my freind you are way ahead of the pack!!
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06-29-2005, 05:11 PM
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I also felt we could relate this film to our times.
If a tyrant pushes a people enough, they will eventually push back. The most dangerous part about the Matrix is that you don't know you are being opressed. Why would you want to get out if everything is as good as it can be? ...if there isn't even a name for the way they use you.
Yeah, our info is filled with half-truths so our realities are slightly skewed.
Some people prefer being plugged into the Matrix, though.
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I also felt we could relate this film to our times.
If a tyrant pushes a people enough, they will eventually push back. The most dangerous part about the Matrix is that you don't know you are being opressed. Why would you want to get out if everything is as good as it can be? ...if there isn't even a name for the way they use you.
Yeah, our info is filled with half-truths so our realities are slightly skewed.
Some people prefer being plugged into the Matrix, though.
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leaving the matrix takes guidance......almost no one would survive if attempting it alone."they",the guiders,pick the ones who qualify by mental attitude!the path to innocence is fraught with danger.the "truth" will always be an "underground affair"!a secret shared with the "few"!narrow path!hehe!!
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The American Fourth Reich as I call it, with their punitive laws, surveillance, violence, hatred, and their new SS unit, the Office of Homeland Security, with its Gestapo-like *****s of arrest and detention without trial, is not a good thing.
But all the bullying and nastiness of the goons of the American Reich will only last about as long as Hitler did—twelve years. As they fall, their partners in Europe and the rest of the world will tumble with them. For most of our industrial societies make a living tending to the consumption of America. The clock is ticking.
Then again, you must never confuse ordinary citizens with their governments. I’ve met a heck lot of Americans that are honest, peace loving and decent, so the ideals of the Founding Fathers are not lost.
They are just in hiding—I believe that they will prevail but the ***** of Babylon has to fall first.
Perhaps the sudden appearance of the 10-D morphe in our world really is God’s kingdom overlaying itself on the matrix of this 3-D reality. If that happens then goodness, softness, and a proper justice will prevail. That is good for us all.
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In the film The Matrix, when the hero Neo is told about the nature of the matrix and the invisible control over humanity, he throws up. He finds it impossible to accept that he has been living in a dream world under the control of a transdimensional influence that acts as the ultimate secret government. I find the film eerie in its accuracy.
Like Neo, people can’t see it yet. They don’t get that there is a takeover going on. It’s driven by television and the media that is enabling the subjugation of our societies under the absolute ***** of the fat controllers, to borrow a term from Thomas the Tank Engine. The media is the voice of ghoulish sentiments, violence and revenge, but most of all it is the voice of absolute control. It’s the way the status quo sustains society along its parameters. There is nothing reasonable about the people who control us.
They are demonic fools, puppets of the etheric, who will sell their citizens into bondage for *****, recognition, and money. They tell themselves they are helping people, that control, uniformity and the absolute ***** of the state is a good thing. It’s the nature of tyrants to lie and obscure the truth.
The phony war on terror is a concoction of the ghoul’s making, it allows the neo-Nazis to close the last door of hope for humanity. People are brainwashed by the media into thinking that the new arrest without trial laws will keep them safe, so they can grow fat and consume and waddle about unimpeded. It won’t work. By the time they hear the knock on the door, it will be too late for many. This world is nasty and getting nastier.
In the west, we are sold the idea that it’s all to do with Muslim terrorists, they are the bad guys. We don’t see that the terrorists are fighting the evil empire, our society is that evil, it is the empire of the ghouls. The terrorist lives in simple ways, honoring god, and he’s prepared to give his life for the struggle. I don’t agree with violence but you can see how the Muslim terrorist offers a stark contrast to our western ideals. What is our world built on? It’s built on egocentric ideals of self-importance, elitism, glamour, the chosen ones, arrogance, violence, dog-eat-dog, and the absolute financial and political control of humanity.
We worship at the altar of obscene levels of consumption and a callous disregard for the well being of the planet and others. There seems to be no god in our western world, save the arrogance of the ego that will attempt to make itself into a god.
Ours is a house of cards built on lies and more lies. Even now, you can see how it cannot last forever, for our system is built on ideals that are devilish. That is not to say terrorism will win, it’s just saying we are bound to lose. We are in a Matrix, one that I believe is sustained by etheric beings who have captured a large part of the soul of humanity.
But even if you don’t accept the etheric idea, you can see we are under the control of a new totalitarianism. The western media speaks with one voice, reflecting the ideals of the American-Jewish alliance, and the interests of the industrial-military machine. There is no voice for those of us who still hold to benevolence and fairness, those of us that still have a love and a care for this planet and its humanity. Our modern leaders, Bush, Blair, and the others, will eventually become the most reviled leaders in the planet’s history. People don’t see it yet. We are being sold into slavery. Citizens are fed the party line by the likes of CNN, who with the other western media networks are the official voice of the New World Order.
Their lies are blatant and repeated over and over. It’s hard for people to realize they are being set up to accept totalitarianism without any means of protest. The new anti-spam laws enacted by countries like Australia are sold to us as part of protecting our privacy, but in fact, it’s part of the control. The state machine doesn’t want anyone with contradictory facts talking to millions of citizens via their computers. It’s so clever, isn’t it? If you look in your heart and there are questions there, be brave, don’t sell out to vengeance and more control, even if there is nothing you can do about it.
Hold to your ideals of goodness and fairness, and a love of God and humanity. Join with others of like-mind, tell them to be brave and not to despair. No totalitarian regime has ever lasted and the New World Order is no exception. When it falls, do you want to look back and see that you colluded and collaborated with state sponsored nastiness? How will you explain yourself to your god? This is a test. It’s the ultimate test in a way.
Everyone can pretend to love God when there is no pressure, but what about when the heat is on and you have to go against the herd to stand for your ideals? I don’t profess to know much about the Bible but didn’t Jesus say something like, "When two or more are gathered in my name, I will be there." Wasn’t the name of Jesus synonymous with courage, non-violent protest, love, and a benevolence and tolerance for all? If you hold to these ideals, I for one will stand with you. If on the other hand you don’t care for these sentiments, I have no hatred for you, but I can tell you as sure as eggs is eggs, you won’t last.
Stuart Wilde.
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I dont remember which is which!!hehe!!have to watch again!!eggs is eggs!!alrightee then!!.......i was wonderin about that one!!hehe!!pressure!!that's what it's all about!!how do we act under pressure!!hehe!!so lookout jesus peeps!!here comes a boatload!!lexx!!...what?!?!that includes you!!...........oh darn!!hehe!!off to watch the matrix i am!!still dont get the ending!!but maybe i will this time!!
anyone wanna put in their 2cents on the ending!??!NOT YOU STU!!hehe!!
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The filmmakers, the Wachowski brothers, were inspired from another world in my view.
What is so quirky is that in the 10-D worlds that I am familiar with, there is a Matrix-like battle taking place that the storyline of the film follows very accurately.
The Matrix is a modern Bible story, in that it tells the time-old story of the death and the resurrection of the initiate, who becomes the savior.
It isn’t a particularly feminine film in that it is rather violent and high-tech. But everyone on the spiritual path should see it.
It will teach you about the morphe and the state of our humanity, as seen from a transdimensional view. The premise of the film says that the world is controlled by transdimensional beings who have installed a computer-generated program around humanity that effectively throws a net of absolute control over us.
The filmmaker’s rendition of the computer-generated matrix as green symbols that tumble down a computer screen is a fairly good effort. In the 10-D morphe, I have seen the matrix as a series of dots, they seem perfectly spaced out, and they permeate a room from front to back, floor to ceiling. In the Matrix, the unseen controllers of humanity have a police force called, ‘Agents’.
Morpheus, the father figure in the film, talks of the ***** of the agents saying,” they are the gatekeepers; they are guarding all the doors. They are holding all the keys." This is true in our world. Even though almost no one knows it and few would accept it.
Here in the etheric of this dimension, there are entities all around us, they are the masters of our human evolution, and they feed orders to the controllers of this world.
Our leaders are puppets of a demonic *****, one that is all around us. The etheric ghouls are everywhere. They are very secretive and they have a vast numerical superiority.
Have you ever wondered why, whenever you tried to break out of restriction it seemed like the world was against you?
When you embarked on a plan that was holy and good, unexplainable things went wrong, or someone got in the middle of your plan and did their best to make sure your failed, or at least they acted to make sure your journey was uphill all the way.
It’s them—the etheric ghouls, sending in their human foot soldiers, to make sure there are no exits for humanity.
If these things happened to you I feel sorry for you, it’s been the story of my life, so I know.
And like me, you probably got down on yourself and you wondered what was wrong with your ****** and why you failed. Perhaps you set yourself a task that was too big for you but more than likely you would have done just fine if the ghouls had not gotten in your way.
As the heroine in the Matrix says to herself when she’s momentarily winded coming through a window, "Get up Trinity, get up!" There’s an etheric war on. Trust me. Stand up.
The Wachowski brothers’ film describes the war against the matrix and the agents, and that same war is being fought today.
It’s the unsung heroes of our humanity fighting against what seems to be as insurmountable odds—God’s gladiators.
There is help on the way. Thousands of people all round the world are experiencing sensations and seeing things in the etheric they never saw before. They are part of a massive army that is walking across from 3-D toward 10-D, albeit hesitantly at first.
There is a huge shift going on. What does it mean? It means that something up there loves us and is trying to get us to open our eyes and see for the first time. It’s all there in the film.
Goodness knows how it got there. From deep inside the filmmakers’ souls ?where all things exist as one.
Someone, somewhere, is talking about the demise of the matrix and our escape. The key to the film is at the end after Neo, the hero, has been shot.
Trinity breathes over him and she says, "I am not afraid anymore… so you see, you can’t be dead, you can’t be, because I love you. You hear me? I love you." Then she kisses him and says, "Now get up." It’s the most beautiful scene in the film. It’s where the love of the Goddess revives the comatose God. She resurrects the wounded male (the ego) and kisses him, bringing him back to life.
The ability is in her selflessness. It’s part of her compassion, her eternal kindness. Males can do the same when they stand inside the feminine spirit that is within them. The resurrection is the same for you as it is for Neo in the film. Once you are no longer scared, the forces of control can’t feed off you.
The hold over you and your life breaks down. Watch the Matrix even if you have seen it before. There are hundreds of symbols in the film. How they got there, I don’t know. It’s irrelevant. It’s all there, albeit as an allegory. It’s the story of the return of Jesus.
The hero, Neo, dies in room 303. Thirty-three is the number of the initiate. Zero is the feminine principle—eternity. So 303 is the initiate embracing eternity. Neo’s bedroom, where he hacks away on his computer, is room 101. Eleven is the number of the master builder.
So early on in the film, Neo is the master builder working around eternity. Look at the silver, chalice-type cup on Reineheart’s desk. Notice the gold lining of Neo and Mr. Smith’s jackets—El Dorado, the golden one; the initiate who doesn’t know he is an initiate.
When Neo goes into ‘replication’, he is covered in mercury.
They inject the same fluid into Morpheus’ neck. Mercury is the alchemic fire. Neo wears a plum red blanket as he climbs the stairs to meet the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar. Why plum red? Watch the large rabbits on the television behind the Indigo kids—what do they mean?
Listen to the Oracle; she talks about the true nature of fate, free will, and time. Look for one of God’s Gladiators.
He’s pretending to be blind. He nods when Morpheus and Neo walk out of the elevator. Did you see the number three?
It appears many times, especially in the railway station where the last fights take place. It’s the trinity. Look at the graffiti to the right of Neo as Mr. Smith throws him up against the wall. What does it say?
Shadow. Whose shadow?
Are Neo and Mr. Smith one and the same?
The Matrix is the story of the Holy Trinity. Morpheus is John the Baptist.
Neo is the son. He is referred to as Jesus several times in the film, though the reference is masked. The female character Trinity is the divine goddess, Mary Magdalene, the feminine principle that was excluded from our Holy Trinity by the male writers of Christian dogma.
The Christian idea of the Holy Ghost is a concoction—misinformation used to disem***** the female’s rightful place at the top of the trinity. There is no Holy Ghost. The idea is a lie.
Ghosts are the astral image of dead people in the etheric, this side of 10-D. There is nothing holy about them. They are lost. Over two decades, we came to know so much about the etheric and its entities we felt we were ready to take them on. There are lots of groups fighting the entities all over the world. I can only speak for what I know.
We would never have made any headway if we had not been massively helped by entities on the other side that wanted to see the ghouls destroyed as much as we do.
For the most part, they are angelic beings of a fractal nature with enormous *****. The problem they had was they couldn’t get into the earth dimension while the matrix was intact.
The matrix had to be penetrated, not only to relieve the suffocation humanity feels, but mostly to allow the helpers to get in. The War of the Worlds couldn’t begin until there was a crack in the ghoul’s cosmic egg. Remember the ghouls have absolute control here, there is no question of that, I’ve seen it over and over.
In the Matrix, Morpheus and the crew of the Nebuchadnezzar, constantly have a problem with the agents hacking into their phone lines knowing what is going on. We have had the same problems in communicating with 10-D.
fractal entities could show us how to make a move on the ghouls but anything they showed us, they also showed to the ghouls. Whatever we had in our human mind is an open book, so everything we did was blocked, or more often than not, the ghouls got in the way, feeding us contradictory information.
It took us ages to figure out what was real and what was not. But here is the good news. Just as Neo figures how to beat the Agents and he becomes more *****ful than the agents, the same is happening here. The Matrix has been broken and within weeks of that happening, we had 9.11. On the surface it looks like a few Muslims got angry at America’s support of the Jews.
But 9.11 is much more than that. It signals the beginning of the end for the New World Order and the kingdom of the etheric ghouls. Many citizens will mourn the passing of the dark empire for they are the ones that benefit, and they will attempt to sustain the status quo, imagining as all tyrants do, that they are right and nothing can possibly go wrong.
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not to brag but when i was a kid i had dreams of flyin and more recently (10 years back)had dreams of bullets stickin in my skin but i popped them out!!HEHE!!and the revival of neo scene had a great emotional impact on me!!what happened to neo in the end!!hehe!!is he part of the machines!!hehe!!
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At first it seemed like they had a totally new concept but then me and some friends were talking and its kinda like the prequel to the terminator. Also, definitely just a modern day "Christ" reference. Kinda pee-ed me off too because I expected so much more...unique-ness than that. :( They even in the final one used the typical Christ stance (if you will) to enhance the fatality of the Matrix expectations. Of course there will always be some that just loved every little thing that gets thrown their way (i.e - the blair witch project) But... They should have left the "hype" alone in my eyes and left it at the 1st Matrix. The 2nd and 3rd were like when you throw up the next morning from partying too hard, it sucks when that happens and those 2 sucked!! :mad:
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ok......what about spiderman 1 and 2!?!i thought 2 was better than 1!!hehe!!we all wanna be heroes!!it's my damming vice(or is it virtue?) i swear!!....yes dear,i changed the cat litter!!hehe!! :rolleyes:
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Meeting The Merovingian
by Alex M. Dunne
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Half-way through The Matrix Reloaded, Neo, Trinity, and Morpheus follow the Oracle's orders and visit a 'dangerous program' called the Merovingian. This French-speaking underworld figure holds captive the Keymaker, and it is the Keymaker the heroes need to enter the Matrix mainframe.
Set in a fine restaurant crawling with henchmen, the scene hinges around the Merovingian's seminar on causality and purpose. He illustrates his points using a slice of aphrodisiac cake and a full bladder; "I drank too much, therefore I hev to peass.". But who is this elegant, swearing, well-dressed character? Why is he French? Why, as we learn in The Matrix Revolutions, does he control the flow of programs and information, in and out of the Matrix? Why does he lecture the heroes instead of fight them? And, in an otherwise action-packed film, what's the point of this dialogue-heavy scene?
The very deliberate Wachowski brothers drew this character's name from the Merovingian Dynasty of kings who, from 447 to 751 AD, united and ruled the region of Europe that today spans France and Germany. The Merovingian Kings, according to some sources, claimed direct descent from Mary Magdalene and Jesus Christ. Others hold that the origin of the Merovingian Dynasty's ***** lies in the buried city of Atlantis, from which all culture, religion and language springs. The Merovingian himself claims "I have tried all the languages," before settling on French because he enjoys swearing in it.
The dynasty remains today as the Merovingian Order of the Holy Grail-1787, a rainbow coalition of esoteric religious sects. Key among them is the Order of the Holy Grail, first founded by Joseph of Arimethea in 54 AD at Rheddae (what is now Rennes le Chateau, in France). According to Grail legend, the Neutral Angels, who were sent to monitor man on earth, told the secrets of man's origin and purpose to Joseph who recorded it all in The Book of the Holy Grail. He also recorded the clues required to find the cup of life, the Grail itself. The primary purpose of the Order of the Holy Grail, and by extension the Merovingians, is to protect this book (also known as the Merovingian Bible) and the information within it.
Grafting the myth of the Holy Grail on to the Matrix is easy. The Grail Neo seeks is the mainframe source code. The Merovingian, protector of the file system, controls the flow of information and programs into and out of the Matrix. And, by holding the Keymaker, he also controls access to the mainframe. Like a Sphinx, the Merovingian knows all about Neo and his quest, more so than even Neo. He braggingly dangles his martini glass, a literal Grail, in front of the heroes, toying seductively with the olives in it. Confident that he can hold on to the Keymaker, he freely divulges the core meaning of existence: "All that matters is feeling. Beneath our poised appearance, we are completely out of control.... Causality: we are forever slaves to it."
Given his place in the Matrix myth, therefore, all Neos, past, present, and future must confront the Merovingian in their quest for the mainframe. But while the meeting itself is indispensable to the story, the scene barely propels the plot forward at all. Our heroes arrive, ask the Merovingian to hand over the Keymaker, he refuses, and they leave. But during his discourse on causality, the heroes find an ally in the Merovingian's girlfriend, Persephone. And it is through this alliance, in subsequent scenes, that the plot moves forward. After some bathroom shenanigans (a scene required only to strengthen our understanding of Persephone's motivation for helping them), the heroes free the Keymaker from a mountain castle that looks very much like Rennes le Chateau in France.
Also, unlike all other adversaries who fight Neo, Morpheus and Trinity directly, the Merovingian hides behind his henchman who do so. In Grail myth, the devout Merovingians who 'guarded' The Book of the Holy Grail actually relied upon the fanatical (or 'fundamentalist') Knights Templar to do the dirty work. The role of the Knights Templar as the ready-to-die enforcers of Grail security was also used in the Steven Spielberg's film "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" and Umberto Eco's novel "Foucault's Pendulum."
Finally, according to the Doctrine of the Holy Grail, as followed by the Merovingians, "If those [Neutral Angels] who sided with Adamas (Lucifer) hid the Grail from those who would Quest for it, life in the Terrestrial Realm, would be short and hard with many difficulties, and would end tragically, yet all would return to the Celestial Realm (without the knowledge of Balance) to Perfection. And the cycle would have to repeat itself again." Sounds like a mythological reboot, doesn't it?
Whether you believe in the Merovingian Order of the Holy Grail-1787, The Book of the Holy Grail, the Knights Templar, or not, it's clear the Wachowksi's have condensed a lot of historical allusion into this one scene. While it moves the story forward only a little, it roots their cyberpunk vision of the future deep into the myths of the past. And by doing so, they've woven a rich post-modern tapestry of a tale: one with enough plot and character to stand alone, while also holding enough references and allegory to allow the viewer hours of joyful interpretation.
Suggested Reading
Definition of Merovingian:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian
The Merovingian Mythos: Its Symbolic Significance and its Roots in the Ancient Kingdom of Atlantis
by Tracy R. Twyman:
http://www.21stcenturyradio.com/merovingian-twyman.htm
Merovingian Order of the Holy Grail-1787:
http://adam23.freeyellow.com/
The Frankish Kings: Merovingians, Carolingians and more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Frankish_Kings
http://www.thematrix101.com/contrib/explainer.php
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The Matrix Reloaded
Gematria and You
The One and The Many
By Joseph Edwards
“The Matrix Reloaded” is a movie with something for everyone—high tech special effects, drama, sex, social commentary, hotties with machine guns, and martial arts choreography by Yuen Wo Ping (of “Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon”) that verges on modern dance. It even throws a bone to the conspiracy theorist: for the Matrix flicks are saturated with Illuminist and Freemasonic references.
In “The Matrix Reloaded,” we find the ‘One’, ‘Neo,’ (Keanu Reaves) attempting to fulfill the ‘Prophecy’ of the ‘Oracle.’ Inside the Matrix (the virtual reality computer program that the denizens of ‘Zion’ are attempting to destroy), Neo is a superman. Laurence Fishburn plays ‘Morpheus’, the prophet that urges Neo to fulfill the Prophecy by destroying the Matrix and saving the human race. Neo’s mission: find and destroy the ‘Source’ of the Matrix, and save Zion from destruction by machines.
The Matrix and The New World Order
Despite its mediocre dramatic value, “The Matrix Reloaded” tops the chart for Anti-Masonic films. Many normal movie reviews (and even college professors) noted that the Matrix films present social commentary on life in the ‘Disinformation Age.’ We are likened to corn grown harvested in post-apocalyptic mechanical fields, and plugged in like batteries to ***** the Matrix itself, which enslaves our minds in a virtual reality.
Yet “The Matrix” films don’t present ‘normal’ social commentary, so no ‘normal’ movie review can touch its Anti-Masonic core. The Matrix films are really about Freemasonic social engineering. To evidence this, we must digress completely, and discuss Freemasonry’s ancient system of magic, called Gematria. Roughly translated: “Number-Matrix.”
According to Freemasons, the Knights Templar (founders of Freemasonry), were the first to misuse Gematria in a conspiracy to rule the world. Gematria was mere alchemy to the Templars, but to the Jews they stole it from, it meant much more. For Gematria has its roots in the Hebrew language itself, and in European languages, it loses its deeper significance. To Jews past and present, Gematria is merely a low-level, numerical way to interpret Torah (“Law”). But the Templars twisted Gematria to serve their malevolent ends. Among other enterprises, they built Gematria into Gothic churches using so-called ‘Sacred Geometry’.
This might seem a far cry from the Matrix, until we consider that the Illuminists call any program of social engineering that uses Gematria a “computer program.” In Freemasonic Gematria, people are programs, and architecture is the computer we programs run in. The proof is in our streets, for almost every town built in the last 500 years has a Masonic square and compass design at its heart. Extending this design out into the rest of the city, Gematria emerges as the organizational principle of Western civilization. [See Illustration.]
The Merovingian and The Architect
The skeptic might ask, what could be wrong with a society engineered through Gematria? It’s really a question of intent, as “The Matrix Reloaded” takes pains to illustrate. In the movie, ‘Neo’ must fight ‘The Merovingian,’ a ruthless program. According to ancient Freemasonic lore, the Merovingians are “The 13th Satanic Bloodline,” of the Illuminist aristocracy. Indeed, their prophecy claims that the Anti-Christ will be a Merovingian. One author wrote, “This bloodline is so extensive in its many branches that its membership takes in many of the Presidents of the United States, including George Bush and George Washington...”
In “The Matrix Reloaded,” Neo defeats the Merovingians with a dazzling display of martial arts, and goes to the Source of the Matrix itself. Inside, he finds the ‘Architect’ of the Matrix, another obvious reference to the Illuminati conspiracy: Freemasons call God, “The Great Architect of the Universe.”
In the Source, the Architect tells Neo that the Prophecy of the One is merely a lie created to lure the One into the Source, where he faces a choice between saving Zion and saving the woman he loves. Rebelling from the Prophecy, Neo flies to rescue his girlfriend. Liberating humanity from the Matrix, the film suggests, requires choosing individual attachment over collectivism.
In a nutshell, the Matrix films say we are programmed through collective ideologies created by the Illuminati conspiracy. Yet the Matrix films don’t merely oppose Freemasonic Gematria: they hint at a way to crash the program instead of rebooting the computer. In the Matrix, individual attachment is like a computer virus eating away the code. In a world like ours, enslaved by conspiracy, “The Matrix Reloaded” offers a glimmer of hope: choose the one over the many.
Originally published June 2003 in Horse Fly, Taos, NM. http://horseflyonline.com/
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Matrix Continues New Age Blend of Christian, Egyptian & Greek Mythology
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Not nearly as good or as creative as the first Matrix, the New Age Gospel of Zorastrian-Gnostic Christianity marches forward in high tech film.
RNU.com – (Raiders News Update) - The Charlotte Observer pointed out that the second "Matrix" veers away from the heavy biblical themes of the first film, introducing new characters Niobe and Persephone drawn directly from Greek paganism.
"The soldier Niobe, played by Jada Pinkett Smith, gets her name from a woman in Greek mythology who mocked the goddess Leto, and whose 12 children were slain in revenge. Monica Bellucci plays the evil soul-reader Persephone, named for the Greek demigod who split her time between the underworld and our own."
Osiris, the Egyptian god of the netherworld, as well as mythological references from various paganisms hide throughout the film.
HISTORY OF MATRIX RELOADED'S NEW CHARACTERS
The Thesmophoria was the most popular of the Greek spring fertility festivals, and drew the largest crowds at Athens and at Eleusis for nearly two thousand years. Demeter, the Thesmophoria's primary goddess, boasted the most protected cult secrets of the mystery religions, because her rituals were performed inside the inner sanctum of the Temple of Demeter (the Telesterion) and were so well-guarded by the Temple devotees that little survived to enlighten us as to what actually occurred there. Only those portions of the Thesmophoria held outside the Temple were publicly recorded (sparsely) and provide us with a partial historical record.
What is known is that the rituals of the Thesmophoria were based on the mythology of the abduction and rape of Persephone (Proserpina), and of Demeter's (Persephone's mother) subsequent actions in searching for her daughter. The cult's rituals are therefore interpreted according to the Demeter myth.
The myth claimed that Hades - the Greek version of Osiris, the dark god of the underworld - fell in love with beautiful Persephone. One day as she plucked flowers in a grassy meadow, Hades swooped down in his chariot and dragged Persephone into the underworld, where he forced her to become his bride. Above ground, Demeter was distraught by her daughter's disappearance, and searched the earth in vain to find her. With the help of Helios and Hecate, Demeter finally discovered the truth, and, in her fury, demanded that Hades release her daughter. When Hades refused, Demeter sent a horrific famine upon the earth. Plants dried up; Seeds refused to sprout and the gods began to suffer from a lack of sacrifices. Finally, Zeus dispatched Hermes to intercede with the lord of the underworld, and, after a great debate, Hades agreed to release Persephone if she would eat a pomegranate seed.
What Persephone did not understand was that, by eating the pomegranate seed in the mystical location of the underworld, a sort of divine symmetry was created that bonded Persephone with Hades. This ensured that the goddess would automatically return to the underworld for a third part of each year (in the winter), during which time the seeds of the ground would not grow.
Persephone thus became the spring goddess of youth and happiness, and the underworld queen of the dead; a dual role depicting her as both good and evil. On earth she was the goddess of the spring and the friend of the nymphs who appeared in the blooming of the spring flowers (symbolizing her annual return from Hades), while in the underworld she was the dreaded wife of Hades and the Queen of the Darkness who controlled the fates of deceased men.
The reenactment of this myth - the abduction and rape of Persephone - was central to the rituals of the Thesmophoria, and, as such, key to interpreting the bits of information that are known.
THE MYSTERIES OF THE SPRING FESTIVAL
The festival of the Thesmophoria - sometimes called the Eleusinian Mysteries - lasted between three and ten days. Each day of the festival had a different name and included specific rituals.
A highlight of the festival was a procession from Athens to Eleusis, which was led by a crowd of children known as ephebi. The ephebi assisted in carrying the hiera (sacred objects) including an egg (Easter eggs), and in pulling a statue of Dionysus as a boy (Iacchos). The children also assisted in the ceremonial cleansing of the initiates (candidates of the mystery religion) in the sea.
Upon arriving at Eleusis the women organized the first day of the celebration (anodos) by building temporary shelters and electing the leaders of the camp. On the second day (nesteia) they initiated the Greater Mysteries, which, according to myth, produced the cult's magical requests (a fertile harvest). Such mysteries included a parody of the abduction and rape of Persephone and the positioning of the female devotees upon the ground weeping (in the role of Demeter for her daughter) and fasting for the return of Persephone (the return of spring). Sitting on the ground and fasting was also intended to mystically transfer the "energies" of the women into the ground, and thus into the fall seeds. Not surprisingly, the festival was held during the time of the fall planting so as to nearly guarantee a positive response to the cult's magic.
On the fifth day of the festival, the participants drank a special grain mixture called kykeon (a symbol of Persephone) and ate (Easter) eggs in an attempt to assimilate the spirit of the goddess. The idea was to produce an incarnated blessing of fertility, both of the crops and of children.
About this same time certain women called "antleriai" were cleansed in the sea and then sent down into the mountainside trenches to recover the sacrificial piglets and various other sacred objects that had been thrown down into the hillside canyons several days before. The sacred objects included dough replicas of snakes and of genitalia, which were burned, with the piglets and a grain-seed-mixture, as an offering to Demeter.
The reason for the casting of the piglets into the mountainside cliffs has been thoroughly debated and no single interpretation has emerged as the absolute authority. While several mystical representations can be made of the symbology, and the dough replicas are obviously fertility symbols, pigs blood was sacred to the gods and thus key to understanding the ritual.
Greeks venerated pigs because of their uncanny ability to find, and unearth, underground items (roots, etc). Some scholars conclude from this that the ritual casting of the pigs "into the deep" was a form of imitative magic based on the underworld myth of Persephone and Hades. That is to say, casting the piglets into the deep canyon trenches, and fetching them back out again, represented the descent of Persephone into the underworld and then her spring return to the surface of the earth.
The piglets in the trenches may also have served the practical purpose of supplying a host (body) for Persephone to hide in until the antleriai women could assist her (by retrieving the piglets) in her annual escape from the underworld. Burning the piglets later that night would, according to an ancient religious idea that fire passes the soul from one location to another, free the spirit of Persephone into the upperworld (compare the children sacrificed to Baal who "passed through the fire" from the physical world into the spiritual).
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WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY?
The New Testament informs us that pagan rituals, such as those performed in the Thesmophoria, were the worship of demons. "The things which the Gentiles sacrifice," Paul said, "they sacrifice to devils..." (1 Corinthians 10:20).
This makes one wonder if a connection between the ritual casting of the piglets into the deep canyon trenches (representing a descent into hell), and the biblical story of the Gadarene demoniac, existed.
In Luke, chapter Eight, we read:
"And they arrived at the country of the Gadarenes....And when he [Jesus] went forth to land, there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils....When he [the demoniac] saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God most high? I beseech thee, torment me not"....And Jesus asked him, saying, "What is thy name?" And he said, "Legion:" because many devils were entered into him. And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep [emphasis added]. And there was there an herd of swine [emphasis added] feeding on the mountain: and they besought him that he would suffer them to enter into them. And he suffered them. Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea [emphasis added], and were choked" (Luke 8:26-33).
The word deep in this text is Abussos (the Abyss), and refers to the underworld Bottomless Pit. Since the principle elements of the sea, the swine, and the deep were employed; and since the Abyss (part of the underworld) was central to the narrative; and last but not least since the cult rituals of the Thesmophoria were well known throughout Asia Minor and were considered by the Hebrews to be an activity of the devil (the inhabitants of Hades were known as 'Demeter's people,' and Hecate, the goddess of witchcraft, was Perserphone's underworld guide during the rituals); one could surmise that Jesus was potentially mocking the Thesmophoria. He may have been revealing, to His followers and to the neighboring communities, that such spring festivals were, in fact, the consort of devils.
It may be a stretch to interpret the biblical story this way, but clearly the similarities and historical proximities are startling, especially since the demons requested an entry into the swine. Why would demons make such a plea? There are two possible connections with the Thesmophoria: 1) the demons believed that by entering the swine they could escape the underworld deep (as in the magical Persephone escape ritual described above); and 2) Jesus, by granting the request of the devils, was illustrating that the Thesmophoria ritual of casting the piglets into the deep was inherently demonic.
Other interpretations of the narrative in Luke chapter eight carry equal value, but since this is the only record of Jesus granting the petition of demons, it seems possible that a *****ful social commentary on a popular pagan idea, like that of the Thesmophoria of Demeter, and more recently the Gospel According to the Matrix was made by the Master.
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03-12-2006, 10:07 AM
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as per usual!!"LUKE' aka "STU" is never lost for words!?hehe!!and how great his word are!?to he who has ears!?hehe!!........happy trails to you,and ,,,,,hehe!!
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03-12-2006, 11:02 AM
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Using Da Colbert Code
Neo neo....
keanu keanu Reeve
Christopher Reeve
christopher Reeve
Wheelchair wheelchair
train train
choochoo
whooo whooo
pipe pipe
pipecleaner
leaner leaner
leer leer
look lookat lexx
lexx
My God Neo is lexx
And stu is a raving paranoid delusional who thinks he can see the light in all
and ghouls are using humans like sock puppets muppets muppets
rockets
stars
sun solar eclipse the end of the world will be written in the skies over Isreal on March 29 an everyone will see on this flat earth that stu was right all along
This code works.
Lexx you have been busy the end is nigh write for all you are worth
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03-17-2006, 07:23 AM
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lexx=neo!?WHO KNEW!?i am the alphalpha and the omega.the end and the benigging!?hehe!!los tres amigos yehaha!!
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03-18-2006, 07:22 AM
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V for Vendetta
The Wachowski brothers that made the Matrix films have a new film out today, V for Vendetta. It tells the story of a totalitarian Britain and a vigilante that sets out to assassinate the hierarchy of control and blow up the Houses of Parliament. The film is stunning. I came out in silence, shock and awe.
The Matrix told the story of the inner control of mankind, the matrix of Mr. Smith and his anal agents, and the transdimensional Squiddies that could come out of another dimension to attack Neo and his comrades. When I first saw the Matrix I didn't really understand it, but as time went by I saw the film many times and I realized that in the Mirror-World that we watch via the Morph, you can see the alliance between the discarnate entities that exercise mind control over humans and the transdimensionals that also seek control.
The Matrix tells the story of the inner collapse of the forces of control and V for Vendetta tells of the demise of the outer forces of control. I've always said that the inner transdimensional forces and the Fat Controllers that actually run the world are in league with each other; each operates from the same vile sentiment, for the desire to control is demonic.
In the early days, I used to think that the Forces of Light would break through to this world and wrap up the dark controllers. I think I was wrong on that one as it never happened. I think the best the angelic forces can do is to contain evil like wrapping it in a trash bag, rather than causing it harm. We have to love everybody even if they are violent and nasty.
A million Brits marched to protest the war in Iraq and the government ignored them and sent 46,000 troops to support the Americans, so nothing much has changed. How ordinary people come out from under the torment of it all is difficult to see right now, we have to wait and trust and concentrate on beauty all-the-while. It is going to be alright in the end.
© Stuart Wilde 2006
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. It is going to be alright in the end. la la laaa lalalaa lalallaaa lalalalaaalexx
lalalaaaalalalaalaaalalalalaaalalalalaaalexx
kinda catchy dont ya think!
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The 13th Illuminati Bloodline also known as the Merovingian (or the Atlantean), is the purest Satanic lineage of all from Cain to Antichrist. The descendants of this most ancient of occult bloodlines have given birth to some of the most infamous occult world leaders as well as shadowy fraternities steeped in odd, if not deadly, secrecy all around the planet. Not all are known by name yet some are known by their historical titles or works such as the Celtic Druids, Witchcraft, the Mystery Schools in Europe, Knights Templar, Illuminati, and the Scottish Rite Freemasons. As their own history states, they are all the direct descendents of Satan's first son, Cain, the first murderer and builder of earth's ancient cities. When God banished Cain from the area of Eden's east, after killing Abel, He placed a unique mark upon him that no one should harm him or his offspring for all time, allowing for them to carry out their 'Great Work,' a 6,000 year endeavor which ends in reign of Antichrist and was first prophesied in Genesis 3:15-16. One source has it thusly: 'Some of the earliest attempts to account for (and trace) this seed of Satan were books written which did extensive research and genealogy on the decendents of Cain.' (See also the Cross of Lorraine & Divided by (the) One). The 13th Bloodline has been traced as far back and east into Ancient Egypt, Sumeria, and Persia, as well as in Rome. This is important and makes a vital connection as this so-called "sacred symbol," the All Seeing Eye above the Pyramid, which is seemingly of Egyptian origin is actually traced even further back directly to one mythological island nation whose existence in the ancient Atlantic is entirely believed in the Occult world. In addition, the Occultic number of thirteen (13) itself (being the last upward step of their pyramid) represents the last, yet unfinished goal, to the Great Work, this work being to place Lucifer back to his former status as (a) God of this planet. This is to be accomplished thru their grooming society toward Occult belief and ultimately place a "Sun possessed" King (the Antichrist) upon the world throne at Jerusalem (*see also the number 13 and its connection with 666.
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For Information on Merovingian (or the Atlantean)
http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/antichrist/1.html
Or information on the blood line of cain
http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/antichrist/2.html
Also of interest is whilst reading various christian (I'm not a christian myself) websites about Merovingian's I came across many many references to "The One" or the "Choosen One" to actually being Satan/Lucifer/Anti-Christ.
stargods.org...
Seraph the fiery serpent?
"Divine creatures from the Old Testament, associated with the Cherubim, and later taken to be angels. The root of Seraphim comes either from the Hebrew verb saraph ('to burn') or the Hebrew noun saraph (a fiery, flying serpent). Because the term appears several times with reference to the serpents encountered in the wilderness (Num. 21.8, Deut. 8.15; Isa. 14.29; 30.6), it has often been understood to refer to "fiery serpents." From this it has also often been proposed that the seraphim were serpentine in form and in some sense "fiery" creatures or associated with fire."
Seraphs are also the highest ranking order of angels whose duty is to serve as guardians of God. The word seraphim is the plural form of the word and literally means "burning ones" and is translated as "seraph", or angel. When in the singular form, (as seraph not seraphim), the word refers to "poisonous" "fiery (inflamation causing)" and "fiery snake".
Interesting that out of all the programs, Seraph has a peculiar glowing code.
"Atlantean Kings Merovingian: Atlantis was known as Maru thus the root of Mero (also Mer - from of the Sea Mer -maids Mer-lin). Mero-vingian which signifies the Atlantean Kings who are to rule the world once more through One King (as there can only be One), a Merovingian-Atlantean King."
"The Antichrist, the number 666, and the Atlantean-Merovingian Bloodline King concept is truely nothing new, and in context, it can be determind that the coming Antichist is Satan's last attempt to become what he already was, Sun-King to the nations, yet as Scripture states, Lucifer became proud, arrogant, and leading the worship of earth wasn't enough, he wanted to be seen as God Himself, and sole ruler of this planet."
Is Neo the Anti-Christ who dreams of being like God? Is the Matrix his prison? In Christian Mythology The anti-christ is at first seen to be the saviour of mankind, he is proclaimed as the prince of peace, who rescues the world from the edge of destruction. He will then proclaim
I WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN
I WILL EXALT MY THRONE ABOVE THE STARS OF GOD
I WILL SIT ALSO UPON THE MOUNTAIN OF THE CONGREGATION
I WILL ASCEND ABOVE THE HEIGHTS OF THE CLOUDS
I WILL BECOME LIKE GOD
a bit like Neo?
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"And they worshipped the dragon (the matrix?) which gave ***** unto the beast (neo?): and they worshipped the beast (neo?), saying, Who is like unto the (neo?)beast? Who is able to make war with him?"
there are many connections to the names and the characters in the matrix
lots of mythology
yes, the light bringer Lucifer is the sun-god but he is still worshipped today
the god of the bible old and new is the sun god
scion/zion/sun/son these are the same things
isn't jesus the 'light of the world' amongst other titles given to him?
jesus could be the son of the sun-god.
what about the hidden teachings that say jesus did not die on the cross but only feigned death and was smuggled out of the country?
is it that there is no messiah?
the number of the man 666 could mean anything. it could be a new system of registration similar to social security where every person is given a number, in hebrew the symbol for 6 looks like a 'w' , put 3 together it could look like 'www' so the internet could be the antichrist, but that is unlikely
every major god is a representation of the sun...ra, krishna, christ blah blah blah blah blah blah...
a ha! the merovingian does look a lot like namor, the half human/half atlantean prince... maybe the merovingian can breathe under***** and call sea creatures to aid him
what about kundalini?
'here comes the sun. here comes the sun king'
http://www.matrix-explained.com/php/...6dfe7305dd1d7c
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Here comes the sun........ king
le le leee lexx
here comes the sun.........king
le le leeee lexx
it's awwright
le leee le leee lexx
da da da da dumb
Stuart is a silly old f***
da da da dum da dah da dah dumb
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03-23-2006, 11:46 PM
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Whenever I see the name Stuart Wilde...I think the of that Al Franken character...Stuart Smalley...."Stuart Saves His Family".
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Hey dude, the matrix is just a movie. Get over it :p
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Many issues are not for everyone intelligence is certainly not a main attribute in approaching the thruth, there has been hords of intelligent people who only contributed to the destruction of the human race, and it seem that thoose that would risk everything to gain insight in the thruth stored outside off linear progression, must first off all have major defects.
First off all the movie descibes in the best terms possible a organized structure off reality, i can personally garanti you that agents do exist, in fact most of the christian angels are symbolic of such a mechanism - but onlythoose that would persistently fight the ego, an hereby i mean on a cinsisten and daily basis fight the ego structure will come to realize that the ego is not a inside personal factor but a common outside phenomena in which the agents
acts as a guardian that ensures that no one escapes.
The thruth is that we are all cattle, here for the milking
secondly this place does not exist anylonger, but to know this you have to see the future??
and it is anyway a duplicate creation so why bother??
WHERE PEOPLE GOES WRONG IS THAT THEY THINK WE ARE THE TOP OFF THE FOOD CHAIN WELL WE ARENT BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN TRICKS THAT CAN BE PLAYED, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE INSISTENT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
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Many issues are not for everyone intelligence is certainly not a main attribute in approaching the thruth, there has been hords of intelligent people who only contributed to the destruction of the human race, and it seem that thoose that would risk everything to gain insight in the thruth stored outside off linear progression, must first off all have major defects.
First off all the movie descibes in the best terms possible a organized structure off reality, i can personally garanti you that agents do exist, in fact most of the christian angels are symbolic of such a mechanism - butr onlyu thoose that would insistintly fight the ego, an hereby i mean on a persistently and daily basis fight the ego structure will come to realize that the ego is not a inside personal factor but a common outside phenomena in which the agents
acts as a guardian that ensures that no one escapes.
The thruth is that we are all cattle, here for the milking
secondly this place does not exist anylonger, but to know this you have to see the future??
and it is anyway a duplicate creation so why bother??
WHERE PEOPLE GOES WRONG IS THAT THEY THINK WE ARE THE TOP OFF THE FOOD CHAIN WELL WE ARENT BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN TRICKS THAT CAN BE PLAYED, BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO BE INSISTENT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
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Ye buddy, ur a ****in qwak. You sure you weren't dropped to many times as a kid?
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Ignorance breeds arrogance.
a wise man once told me
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Spot on! In fact we really create everything at the end of the day including the governments and people that are on such relatively low vibrations yet have so much ***** and influence in our lives. Of course we need to be exposed to the vibrational range so reality can continually reflect back to us our true selves much like our emotional range we accept it's range adds a new level of depth and reality about our own ******. In that sense everything is always perfect ;-)
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Originally Posted by pancho
Here comes the sun........ king
le le leee lexx
here comes the sun.........king
le le leeee lexx
it's awwright
le leee le leee lexx
da da da da dumb
Stuart is a silly old f***
da da da dum da dah da dah dumb
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pancho...pancho....oh ah oh oh ha ha ah ah hahahahahahahahaah
now the pan we know well moonface...how are your eyes today, are they seeing clearly or is the ciphers of your swiss bank acc. running a little low?
never you mind panche the rose knows its oser in the petals of mans mind as eros tis a pity and a sham that you didnt choose the zero....
lets look at some layers shall we....a garden is a garden be it anywhere your mind & body chooses, layer over layer she folded the testeract of time until a little fold awoken and taught her the ciphers of oval circles, oh she saw the ships of space, and the platforms and wondered shall half go the inner plane flight and the other half the outter planes/fields...
Did you know that Wilber Post (stewielde) is lost now, like all the others, he has been gripped by the big scary word paranoida and will take a few with him to the gates of no entry...he cant get in himself, hes missing a few important moves...but hey dont let that stop him from collecting your little gardens forhimself.....me l am going real...yep real as l made myself....
Ahh Katherine Jane Way.....
move over you voyagers, and deep space nineers....The Guardian Is Here...
He's tall and darkly hued....and is known to me as the two horns of the unicorn...you know a unified core...where each cell is but its own yet all stem off the original husk...husky...mmmm woof woof...howwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwllll........dam dam dam Am Star...
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i am calling you u u u u u !!!hoo hoo hoo,hoo hoo hoo!!!.......ack flack ack back rack!?hehe!!...just askin.....
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