ULTIMATE WEALTH PACKAGE an elaborate scam

[Tonus Locus]

Mark Warren's ULTIMATE WEALTH PACKAGE is no simple scam; it is a very well thought-out, well-planned pyramid scheme designed to swipe as much of your money as possible. It does its job, and does it well.
Here's how it works: The retail price is normally $99.95, but there's a 50% off coupon code you enter at the bottom of the site which gives you the illusion you're getting a good deal. They tell you that you will NEVER be billed again. The truth is you ARE billed again, only in a way they don't tell you up front. They encourage you to get your FREE website, which, in the end will cost you if you're tempted to take their "best" option. If you want what they call the PRO package (administered by a company called MidPhase) instead of the Basic package (which is free, presumably, but only earns one revenue stream instead of four), this costs money, to the tune of $119.40 (at least). You figure, well, since they've already got my $50, might as well go for it. Unfortunately, this is only the beginning.
After ordering their PRO package, next they tell you that you have to get traffic to your website. The next company to step in line for your cash is an outfit called "GET VISITORS NOW". The UWP website reads something like, "Well, you can have the most sophisticated website in the world, but it's no good unless you can get traffic to it". For traffic to your website, which should have been absolutely free under any condition in the first place, Get-Visitors-Now will run you another $49.95.
Once the website is up and running (with your personal name used as the default for the domain name) after about 72 hours, you come to find that it's an EXACT DUPLICATE of every website that is offered to their so-called customers. Not only that, the website they give you is solely an ADVERTISING website for HIS PRODUCTS, and the products of his affiliates (such as Forex Enterprise, Paid Survey Program, and AdWords Elite). Another traffic router option on the website, called Traffic Tsunami, should you choose to buy that (God forbid), will run you another $19.97.
In essence, what this Mark Warren has gotten his victims to do is to pay for HIS OWN advertising, and at the same time, put his victims in the position to rip off other people who in the end wind up with the same website as theirs, advertising his products, and on and on. This is the essence of Mark Warren's pyramid scheme, and he must have thousands and thousands of these identical websites floating out on the Web. In the meantime, you are presumably getting doled out commissions on whatever suckers you can get to buy his junk from your website; how he arrives at the amount of your commissions is, of course, never revealed. This dude Mark Warren (whoever he is in real life) is a fraud genius. He's got a system that can magically turn a $50 customer into someone who can wind up paying $240 (and more) to do HIS advertising. It's incredible.
That's not to mention his "award winning" phone agents who straight-up lied to me (for example, by telling me to TRY the program for 60 days when my money-back guarantee would have expired by then) or his outdated E books he encourages you to download when you first sign up, E books that he hasn't even bothered to update within the last three or four years. Not only that, most of the E books deal with separate aspects of the Internet business and have nothing to do with the website you just bought.
This character Mark Warren is so dangerous and so vociferous in his quest for other people's cash, that he pays LEGITIMATE REVIEW websites to pitch his Ultimate Wealth Package (which is how I got suckered in). One is called LegitimateBusinessReviews.com and the other one is called TheRichPrince.com. These sites are INCREDIBLY CONVINCING into getting you to think that they hate scam artists just as much as you do and they're looking out for your best interests when what they're really doing is trying to convince people like you and me that Mark Warren and his affiliates are the only ones running legitimate work-at-home programs on the Web!!!
In the end, this critter is a two-legged vulture who preys on people who happen to be desperate and vulnerable. Don't let him waste your time and money. The only GOOD thing he has to offer is his money-back guarantee, probably the ONLY thing that keeps him out of trouble with the FBI. He should be reported anyway, and be forced to work for a living just like the rest of us. What a total scumbag.

[ditching]

Wow...

I was about to give my $$$ to this guy..
but then I read this review..

Thnx for the info!

Hehe..
but look below

[Mojo Bailey]

Ultimate Wealth Package is available free from the masked guru.

[PaidSurveyZone]

Originally Posted by Mojo Bailey

Ultimate Wealth Package is available free from the masked guru.

I believe they call that stealing, even if this thing is a scam.

[raphael1112]

Originally Posted by ditching

Wow...

I was about to give my $$$ to this guy..
but then I read this review..

Thnx for the info!

Hehe..
but look below

LOL!!

you just made me laugh, thanks!

[tinkkiou]

Crap, I was definitely suckered in by those reviews he had paid for. I've been reading up more and just realized I blew 40 bucks on this crap. I don't have the time and money to pay and deal with all the extra costs to get this crap up and running. How am I supposed to ask for a refund? I heard on another thread it was best to go through ClickBank themselves to avoid the encouragement of trying it for 60 days first. How should I go about this? Thanks!

[tinkkiou]

Also, is it worth it to download the ebooks before I get my refund??

[Tonus Locus]

To tinkkiou:

Thanks for the questions. The one who put up the post on the other thread which describes the manner with which to get your money back was me.

The way it works is: Clickbank will, or should have, sent you a receipt with an order number to the personal E-mail address you specified when you first signed up. Clickbank processes payments for both UWP and Get-Visitors-Now; to get your refund for the PRO package you have to go through MidPhase directly, if you signed up for it (MidPhase sends out E-mail receipts as well). Clickbank says in the E-mail that you should wait for two business days from the date you made your purchase before contacting them (which is what I did). After two business days, you can click on the link provided in the E-mail where it specifies to make a customer service inquiry. The rest takes care of itself. I never asked or told UWP that I was going to make an effort to get my money back. That would have been a mistake.

The E books MIGHT be worth downloading before getting your refund. They could provide a worthwhile read if you intend to start an Internet business which provides a valuable good or service later on (in contrast to the UWP websites, which rip off people in consistent and perpetual fashion). On the other hand, the E books are definitely outdated and could prove to be useless. As for me, I haven't read them yet because I'm still getting over the embarrassment of even falling for the scam in the first place. Before I launch my own website, I'll probably give the stuff a look-over. Personally, I'd rather learn HTML and Javascript (which is what I'm doing now), so I can design my own website for nothing, and register the domain name and select the webhost of MY choice, all for $40, maybe less. That way, guys like Mark Warren can take their "free" bulls**t websites (which he mysteriously "values at $1,097") and shove it straight up their asses.

[Mojo Bailey]

Originally Posted by PaidSurveyZone

I believe they call that stealing, even if this thing is a scam.

no it's not.

Go read what he does.

If you want thge actual ebook, you need to go search a hacker forum or something.

[Baron24]

I think you can make a lot of money from this if you follow it to a tee ,but i do think Mark could have gone about it a lot different. I don't like it when these companies pretend like you are getting a discount ,when they know dog on well your not. There just trying to sucker you in to believing that and purchasing. Just say $49.95 and thats it. In the introduction, let the potential customer know how much they might have to pay in total for the website.

I don't have a problem though with selling his products as long as they convert in to sales

[eric_vannostran]

This guy is total scum. This was the last batch of crap I bought before I finally started to make money. It makes me feel ashamed that I am from the same part of the country as him. PLEASE DON'T BUY THIS! He should be in jail. I am actually making money online now, but he almost ruined it for me!

[Joestap]

Excellent advice, Tonus Locus. Thanks for the detailed information.

[Dr.Valdez]

What the heck do those web sites sell anyway? I was looking for some extra cash being retired and on fixed income - but pretty much everything is a scam!

[Tonus Locus]

Dr. Valdez:

You know, I'm beginning to feel the same way.

It's starting to look like the only way to make legit money through the Web is to sell goods and/or services through a website which you create yourself, based on your own ideas and innovation, NOT through someone else's website, selling someone else's "products", based on someone else's "ideas".

Thanks, Joestap, by the way, for the kudos. I hope the information I provided will help a lot of people. :rolleyes:

I know of a great company with an awesome opportunity that has been around for over 17 years and provides EXCELLENT income, training and support. For more information, visit ]. Learn how to change YOUR financial future at these website links! I did and it changed my life!

[Mojo Bailey]

how about 'fvck off miranda'???

[jpchris]

Is this the same thing as Wealth Tool Box? It did not cost anything to join this and it was working great for several months. Now since Aug 10 they have not traded. Probably a scam also.

[drikpekpe]

Originally Posted by Tonus Locus

Mark Warren's ULTIMATE WEALTH PACKAGE is no simple scam; it is a very well thought-out, well-planned pyramid scheme designed to swipe as much of your money as possible. It does its job, and does it well.
Here's how it works: The retail price is normally $99.95, but there's a 50% off coupon code you enter at the bottom of the site which gives you the illusion you're getting a good deal. They tell you that you will NEVER be billed again. The truth is you ARE billed again, only in a way they don't tell you up front. They encourage you to get your FREE website, which, in the end will cost you if you're tempted to take their "best" option. If you want what they call the PRO package (administered by a company called MidPhase) instead of the Basic package (which is free, presumably, but only earns one revenue stream instead of four), this costs money, to the tune of $119.40 (at least). You figure, well, since they've already got my $50, might as well go for it. Unfortunately, this is only the beginning.
After ordering their PRO package, next they tell you that you have to get traffic to your website. The next company to step in line for your cash is an outfit called "GET VISITORS NOW". The UWP website reads something like, "Well, you can have the most sophisticated website in the world, but it's no good unless you can get traffic to it". For traffic to your website, which should have been absolutely free under any condition in the first place, Get-Visitors-Now will run you another $49.95.
Once the website is up and running (with your personal name used as the default for the domain name) after about 72 hours, you come to find that it's an EXACT DUPLICATE of every website that is offered to their so-called customers. Not only that, the website they give you is solely an ADVERTISING website for HIS PRODUCTS, and the products of his affiliates (such as Forex Enterprise, Paid Survey Program, and AdWords Elite). Another traffic router option on the website, called Traffic Tsunami, should you choose to buy that (God forbid), will run you another $19.97.
In essence, what this Mark Warren has gotten his victims to do is to pay for HIS OWN advertising, and at the same time, put his victims in the position to rip off other people who in the end wind up with the same website as theirs, advertising his products, and on and on. This is the essence of Mark Warren's pyramid scheme, and he must have thousands and thousands of these identical websites floating out on the Web. In the meantime, you are presumably getting doled out commissions on whatever suckers you can get to buy his junk from your website; how he arrives at the amount of your commissions is, of course, never revealed. This dude Mark Warren (whoever he is in real life) is a fraud genius. He's got a system that can magically turn a $50 customer into someone who can wind up paying $240 (and more) to do HIS advertising. It's incredible.
That's not to mention his "award winning" phone agents who straight-up lied to me (for example, by telling me to TRY the program for 60 days when my money-back guarantee would have expired by then) or his outdated E books he encourages you to download when you first sign up, E books that he hasn't even bothered to update within the last three or four years. Not only that, most of the E books deal with separate aspects of the Internet business and have nothing to do with the website you just bought.
This character Mark Warren is so dangerous and so vociferous in his quest for other people's cash, that he pays LEGITIMATE REVIEW websites to pitch his Ultimate Wealth Package (which is how I got suckered in). One is called LegitimateBusinessReviews.com and the other one is called TheRichPrince.com. These sites are INCREDIBLY CONVINCING into getting you to think that they hate scam artists just as much as you do and they're looking out for your best interests when what they're really doing is trying to convince people like you and me that Mark Warren and his affiliates are the only ones running legitimate work-at-home programs on the Web!!!
In the end, this critter is a two-legged vulture who preys on people who happen to be desperate and vulnerable. Don't let him waste your time and money. The only GOOD thing he has to offer is his money-back guarantee, probably the ONLY thing that keeps him out of trouble with the FBI. He should be reported anyway, and be forced to work for a living just like the rest of us. What a total scumbag.

thanks alot. very thorough research. I went through the process. Got my refund though, using midphase just as you correctly stated.

[dnice4u49]

Originally Posted by Tonus Locus

Mark Warren's ULTIMATE WEALTH PACKAGE is no simple scam; it is a very well thought-out, well-planned pyramid scheme designed to swipe as much of your money as possible. It does its job, and does it well.
Here's how it works: The retail price is normally $99.95, but there's a 50% off coupon code you enter at the bottom of the site which gives you the illusion you're getting a good deal. They tell you that you will NEVER be billed again. The truth is you ARE billed again, only in a way they don't tell you up front. They encourage you to get your FREE website, which, in the end will cost you if you're tempted to take their "best" option. If you want what they call the PRO package (administered by a company called MidPhase) instead of the Basic package (which is free, presumably, but only earns one revenue stream instead of four), this costs money, to the tune of $119.40 (at least). You figure, well, since they've already got my $50, might as well go for it. Unfortunately, this is only the beginning.
After ordering their PRO package, next they tell you that you have to get traffic to your website. The next company to step in line for your cash is an outfit called "GET VISITORS NOW". The UWP website reads something like, "Well, you can have the most sophisticated website in the world, but it's no good unless you can get traffic to it". For traffic to your website, which should have been absolutely free under any condition in the first place, Get-Visitors-Now will run you another $49.95.
Once the website is up and running (with your personal name used as the default for the domain name) after about 72 hours, you come to find that it's an EXACT DUPLICATE of every website that is offered to their so-called customers. Not only that, the website they give you is solely an ADVERTISING website for HIS PRODUCTS, and the products of his affiliates (such as Forex Enterprise, Paid Survey Program, and AdWords Elite). Another traffic router option on the website, called Traffic Tsunami, should you choose to buy that (God forbid), will run you another $19.97.
In essence, what this Mark Warren has gotten his victims to do is to pay for HIS OWN advertising, and at the same time, put his victims in the position to rip off other people who in the end wind up with the same website as theirs, advertising his products, and on and on. This is the essence of Mark Warren's pyramid scheme, and he must have thousands and thousands of these identical websites floating out on the Web. In the meantime, you are presumably getting doled out commissions on whatever suckers you can get to buy his junk from your website; how he arrives at the amount of your commissions is, of course, never revealed. This dude Mark Warren (whoever he is in real life) is a fraud genius. He's got a system that can magically turn a $50 customer into someone who can wind up paying $240 (and more) to do HIS advertising. It's incredible.
That's not to mention his "award winning" phone agents who straight-up lied to me (for example, by telling me to TRY the program for 60 days when my money-back guarantee would have expired by then) or his outdated E books he encourages you to download when you first sign up, E books that he hasn't even bothered to update within the last three or four years. Not only that, most of the E books deal with separate aspects of the Internet business and have nothing to do with the website you just bought.
This character Mark Warren is so dangerous and so vociferous in his quest for other people's cash, that he pays LEGITIMATE REVIEW websites to pitch his Ultimate Wealth Package (which is how I got suckered in). One is called LegitimateBusinessReviews.com and the other one is called TheRichPrince.com. These sites are INCREDIBLY CONVINCING into getting you to think that they hate scam artists just as much as you do and they're looking out for your best interests when what they're really doing is trying to convince people like you and me that Mark Warren and his affiliates are the only ones running legitimate work-at-home programs on the Web!!!
In the end, this critter is a two-legged vulture who preys on people who happen to be desperate and vulnerable. Don't let him waste your time and money. The only GOOD thing he has to offer is his money-back guarantee, probably the ONLY thing that keeps him out of trouble with the FBI. He should be reported anyway, and be forced to work for a living just like the rest of us. What a total scumbag.

Yea TL, i agree with this. as a matter of fact i overlooked this one to get the money vault which has exactly the same ingredients. man i bought it hook line and sinker. even as skeptical as i was. i had a feeling that this was bulls%&t. I tried to use the website to no avail. i have had it for over 2 months and it has paid me a whopping $33.25. i tried to use thier chat feature and when i asked certain questions they took forever to answer and then gave me the either the same answer over and over or directed me to some other department. also,midphase is full of it. when i tried to add a code from googlesense it could not be done. when i asked them about it they directed me elsewhere. same with the website chat who told me to hire a webmaster. yea like i am making that kind of cheese here. they couldnt answer the question. they even had a "coach" call and offer me help...for a fee of course. he told me some bs like i was investing into my future. yea right! i was investing into his future is what he meant. anyway, live, spend your hard earned money, give it away to others and learn......... i guess!
thx again
dnice

[cc168]

Hi there,

First of all, thanks to Tonus Locus who brought this detailed investigation in front of us.

I'm evaluating their offer this same time, and glad to read
your post here. :smile:

I wont' bother to look at it again.

For the ebooks, you can get tons of new ebooks from
some top gurus in the latest 12daysChristmas giveaway
campaign, no need to read those outdated ebooks
from UltimateWealthPackage !

Actually, they are some people who are earning
good income just for selling other people's products!
They are super affiliates and they generate income
by selling those products from within their gurus
inner circles or from ClickBank popular selling items!

But the upfront condition is you must have a list
of hungry subscribers waiting for your offers ! :smile: