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Old 06-24-2007, 06:19 AM
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Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Hi there,

I wanted to find out who is the culprit of frauding many people who had a fraudulant checks withdrawn from thier accounts!

Fraudulent checks has the name intabill on it with such a high numbers on the top right corner and is processed through Bank of America! ( for info go to www.ripoffreport.com and put intabill in search box).

:mad: Ok the problem is after reading and making a complaint about it at the other sight there was nothing mentioned about Greenzap until someone there said something about it. Now the tech of intabill said it wasn't them for a while and as time went by and someone asked if they are tied in with greenzap the tech of intabill came out and said all of sudden that it is greenzap that is doing it.

I searched out greenzap with the BBB and intabill too, I had found that greenzap is no longer active and is listed with BBB, which means that BBB states that the company is shut down.

Ok now I searched out Intabill with the BBB and guess what there is no listing for them with the BBB nothing at all.

My question is who would be the culprit of frauding people out of thier money and could they be both tied in together?

Need help with putting all of this to rest and punishing the quilty ones your advice and suggestions would be nice as myself and many others are trying to help with catching the real culprit on this scam or fraud that is being commited. :)


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Old 06-28-2007, 03:48 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

ok I guess no one cares if anyone gets riped off unless its them who are being riped off then they make a complaint. I just wanted to find out more about both companies and who you think might be the real culprit thanks any ways...



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Old 06-28-2007, 05:48 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

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ok I guess no one cares if anyone gets riped off unless its them who are being riped off then they make a complaint. I just wanted to find out more about both companies and who you think might be the real culprit thanks any ways...
I don't think it is that no-one cares about you getting ripped off, or anyone else for that matter. Most of this is covered in the GZ thread, and I would suggest you read it as I believe your answer lies in the last 2-4 pages of the thread. It will save you a lot of time searching if you do.

Hope this helps.

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:37 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Ok I think I read most of it but they are dated back to to 2005, I wanted to know if anyone ever heard of Intabill? and if they are by any chance the same people??

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:48 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

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Ok I think I read most of it but they are dated back to to 2005, I wanted to know if anyone ever heard of Intabill? and if they are by any chance the same people??
When I have some time I will do a search to see what I can find out for you, but I would also do a search of your own. Just "Google" the company name and see what pops up. Then you just follow all the links you uncover. Wallah!

Hope this helps.

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Old 06-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

A personal statement found on-line:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...Off0255697.htm
the first results page:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/searchre...&Search=Search
Quote:
Originally Posted by Debbie at www ripoffreport com/reports
Submitted: 6/20/2007 10:23:29 AM
Modified: 6/21/2007 11:46:57 PM
Reported By
Debbie
bay village, Ohio
The site in question:
http://www.intabill.com/about.php

My personal opinion based upon my own perceptions of the language used at the site in question's "About" page.

Dubious at best.

Very Dubious to say the very least.

I believe the old saying in my day used was

"Double Talk"

Yes that's what I read.

Of course you should arrive at your own concusions from your own readings.

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Old 07-07-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!


The following address is found on the "Deed of Absolute Sale" used by Intabill.com.


Miriam House, Suite #4290 #5 Losack Road Basseterre St. Kitts, Eastern Caribbean

This may be viewed on-line at intabill.com as a PDF at the following url:

http://join.intabill.com/pdf/DeedofAbsoluteSale.pdf



When the noted address from the form is entered into yahoo for a search it will yield the following search results page.


Yahoo search results for Miriam House address

On the first page scroll down to # 9 and you will read a familiar forum name.

#9

About ClubFreedom. Back Office - Rolclub Hyip Forum, Hyip, Hyip Forum ...
Miriam House, Suite #4290. P. O. Box 450 #5 Losack Road. Basseterre. St. Kitts. Eastern Caribbean. Email: support@clubfreedom.biz ...
rolclub.com/rolclubs-next-line-system/13712-about-clubfreedom-back-... - 45k - Cached

Rolclub Thread Post by Neno with Miriam House address


Click on the above search result link and it will bring you to a rolclub page where you find our good friend Neno (aka Tommy Styles) pushing a new on-line business which is also addressed at the exact same address above used by Intabill.com.

The following url is the page for the new on-line business' "About us" page with the exact same address.

Club Freedom web page promoted by Neno with Miriam House address


Now further note the the same address as used by the Intabill form is given as the
"international Office" address of the new promotion by Neno (aka Tommy Styles).

International Office
Supreme Marketing Inc.
Miriam House, Suite #4290
P. O. Box 450
#5 Losack Road
Basseterre
St. Kitts
Eastern Caribbean


The following link will bring the reader to a second form required by Intabill for use of its services.
This is the "Reverse Deed of Absolute Sale" form.

http://join.intabill.com/pdf/Reverse...soluteSale.pdf

Note at the bottom left of the form the same company name (Supreme Marketing Inc.) and address information given as that of Club freedom, is typed, as well as named in the language of the form.

These two forms it would appear are required of the "Merchant" who wishes to use Intabill.com services, in that the merchant is required to sell, for $1.00, to Intabill Inc. their "Domain Name"

(Now that makes me think of MTT (More Than Traffic). If I am not mistaken.)

And those of us who have been pursuing the Greenzap case know full well that Tommy Styles (aka Neno) was and still is one of the key principal resellers of Greenzap of interest to investigators of the Greenzap Scam.

So then we have what appears to be an undeniable link between Greenzap and Intabill.
And what would appear to be a similar practice of acquiring domain names
in a surreptitious manner just as MTT so unscrupulously did to so many.

There are two other forms for potential Intabill.com purchasers to read and sign. I for one have read them through and find some of the terms to be highly suspicious with respect to their wording.

http://join.intabill.com/pdf/General...Agreeement.pdf


http://join.intabill.com/pdf/Gateway...eAgreement.pdf

All of the above forms are then expected to be faxed to the Australia office via the following phone number:


"Don't forget... Once you have completed the above forms to fax them back to us.
Fax: +61 7 3217 5144"


I have much more to say with regards to the results of my research so far into Intabill.com as a business. But that will wait till later in the week, as I think the above presented information will be sufficient for some conversation for the next few days.

In the mean time I would advise all who are able
to cache all the above information where one is able to.



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Old 07-10-2007, 10:57 PM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

One more thing I noticed - on the PDF doc they list Daniel Tzvetkoff.

You can see his name at:
http://www.intabill.com/contact.php - just click on the "sales" icon.
"Daniel Tzvetkoff
Phone: +61 7 3217 5055
Email: daniel@intabill.com
Cell: +61 400 738 037"

Who is Daniel?

Per http://events.69spot.com/pressrelease_piece.php?id=5808
"According to Daniel Tzvetkoff, CEO of Merchant Solutions, "Our new web site launches the most comprehensive and advanced billing solutions for our online merchants. We are excited about the new additions to our list of services, such as online check processing and 900 billing." "
.....
For more information, please visit www.merchsolutions.com.


So who is MerchSolutions?

Per:
http://www.paypalsucks.com/forums/sh...23&old_block=0

They operate under the websites:
billingleads.com ,
internationalbilling.com
and more recently merchsolutions.com.


Ok - so now we are getting there... apparently there is more here than meets the eye:

http://www.badbusinessbureau.com/rep...609.htm#238850

So other web sites:
Adultmegaplex,
Aka Pay-comms.com,

And Daniel has other aliases:
Daniel Merloca

A few more domain names:
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=119094&postcount=55
http://www.whois.sc/custserviceco.com
Registrant:
Merchant Solutions
P.O Box 629 New Farm
Brisbane QLD, Qld 4005
AU
+61.732540110

http://www.whois.sc/merchsolutions.com
Registrant:
Merchant Solutions
P.O Box 629 New Farm
Brisbane QLD, Qld 4005
AU
+61.732540110

It just goes on and on - tons of people ripped off.

34 people ripped off here:
http://www.scam.com/showpost.php?p=22884&postcount=32

I think we have barely cracked the surface here....

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Old 07-14-2007, 01:52 PM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

What gave you the impression Greenzap had been shut down?
There is nothing on the BBB website to indicate this.
There is a report on Greenzap at the BBB which lists DW's other scams as well.
Card Global, Mazumah, Telecard Network etc.

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Old 07-14-2007, 02:00 PM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Copied fro Here...

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...Off0254534.htm


"It's not Intabill.com - it is Greenzap.com that is responsible for these charges
Intabill.com has learned that the company responsible for the recent check activity is called Greenzap (www.greenzap.com). Greenzap is using a new company called Inta Bill to process their check transactions for their regularly scheduled fees.

Intabill.com and Greenzap are not affiliated in any way and Intabill.com is not responsible for these charges and cannot issue a refund".

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Old 07-17-2007, 04:34 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Richard,

Isn't it quite a coincidence that Neno's aka Tommy's new venture- "Club Freedom" uses the same address as Intabill.com:

International Office
Supreme Marketing Inc.
Miriam House, Suite #4290
P. O. Box 450
#5 Losack Road
Basseterre
St. Kitts
Eastern Caribbean

From RolClub:
http://www.rolclub.com/rolclubs-next...ck-office.html

From the Intabill site:
http://join.intabill.com/pdf/DeedofAbsoluteSale.pdf

From VIPMLM Site talking about Clubfreedom:
http://www.vipmlm.org/

Seems a little fishy that Neno's next "business" is at the same address as Intabill.com that claims it has no relation to greenzap.

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Old 07-17-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Yeah MJ, that hasn't gone unnoticed, we've been discussing it on the GZ thread.

There are a number of posts appearing similar to this one and they show that despite being under investigation these scumbags continue to raid bank acounts.

LINK

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Old 07-17-2007, 03:29 PM
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Another Interesting Link


LINK

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Old 07-18-2007, 08:27 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Now that California has joined Texas in issuing a Cease and Desist against GZ, I think for all practical purposes GZ is shut down. All that remains now is to see just how many charges DW faces when arraigned. I think it will be quite a laundry list, but that is just my opinion. Didn't want anyone thinking I had some kind of inside information.

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Old 08-09-2007, 03:25 AM
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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

OK moving my intabill research from GZ thread, please bear with me.

OK it took quite a bit of spider whipping to figure out the address linkage between Intabill.com, Clubfreedom, and what turns out to be tons of other businesses....

Glenford Hamilton

http://www.webcom.com/~offshore/nevis/manage.html
Quote:

ST KITTS AND NEVIS
OFFSHORE SERVICES
Company Formation and Management


Glenford Hamilton & Associates Limited
5 Lozack Road
P.O. Box 1058
Basseterre, KN 1058
St. Kitts and Nevis

and

Law Offices of Glenford Hamilton & Associates
http://hamilaw.com/
http://hamilaw.com/Contact.cfm


Couple more links pointing to his address.
http://www.offshorenews.cz/Odkazy/o...gents_nevis.htm
http://www.nevisfinance.com/Directory.cfm?Idz=6
http://alabamaagainstfraud.com/Hunt...id=23076~20.htm
http://www.sknvibes.com/Legal/Lawyers.cfm

Glen and his brother Jason are lawyer/registry agents that incorporates or register businesses in St.Kitts (tiny little independent country that gained independent status in 1983, a bit south east of Puerto Rico)

Glen appears to use his address, then, tack on a PO box so that he can sort the various companies mail.

Why St. Kitts?
Quote:
Answer:
Doing Business in Nevis is Easy! Nevis is an economically and politically stable jurisdiction with over 21 years of experience as an international financial centre. Nevis has state of the art infrastructures, total tax exemption and no exchange controls, user-friendly and flexible legislations and a qualified pool of professionals with expertise in asset management and protection, finance, taxation, banking, law and accountancy. Nevis has a reputation as a welcoming, innovative and progressive jurisdiction. In Nevis, the government fees are low, the incorporation process is quick and there is no compromise on the quality of service or the carrying out of international best practices.


or
Quote:

Answer #2..

The G-7's Financial Stability Forum listed St. Kitts and Nevis as being among group three jurisdictions (jurisdictions that are regarded as having the lowest quality financial supervision), while the OECD has listed St. Kitts as a tax haven and as uncooperative in combating money laundering.

Glen will gladly create a registered office for you too! What is a registered office you ask?

Quote:
Answer:
A registered office is the office of registered agent that maintains requisite records and accepts service of process, legal communications and notices. The registered office also performs the traditional corporate functions such as dealing with correspondence, paying of fees and filing


I am gonna stick with the link between GZ and Intabill being weak. Sure Neno is in another scam that used the same registery agent and he used the same made up PO box on several companies (possibly the same scammer, using the same tactic Damon does with several companies pointing to the same address). But I do not think there is any more connection than that.

Scammers talk to other scammers and find out what laywers and countries they should use to avoid prosecution or taxes. I think this is more likely the case.

Point being, I am not saying anything about the credibility of Intabill.com, just that I think it is unlikely that GZ and Damon are tied to it any more than the fraud Damon is possibly committing in their name.


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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

In this case, I think Intabill and Damon are in more of a Bob and Damon type of relationship.

Yes, Intabill appears shady, but IMHO I am thinking that is what Damon counts on in this case. Like with Bob, he is trying to sneak away with cash that is not his own and point the finger to someone else.

Why not shaft Neno/Tommy, I am sure that he has been an utter annoyance to Damon. Tommy gets mixed up any any program he can find, and in this case, it is tied to an Australian payment processor. Might as well try and pin the blame on Neno's friend and draft using their name. There are no true friends in Damon's biz, everyone is a mark, even your peers.

Sure it is all speculation, but it is a speculation that just begs to be true.

So despite intabill's linkages to GZ, they may be on the other side of the fence from him now trying to figure out why he is doing this to them.

Here is the current list of Intabill complaints, some even go so far as to notice the link between the defunct 1800# used on the paper check to steal from their account and the phone numbers listed on the SD BBB for damon's ventures.

I am not sure how close people are looking at the checks being drafted but I am thinking Damon is using "Inta bill" vs the AUS "Intabill"


Here is the list of current ripoff reports against intabill/greenzap:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0258569.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254534.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255697.htm *** Debbie pieces some things together
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254814.htm ** good read
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0253469.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254707.htm ** this guy poses a great question
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0257123.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255654.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0253863.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0256235.htm - new one
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0256590.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254397.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0253414.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254095.htm ** andrew has not replied this person yet.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0263973.htm ** andrew has not replied this person yet.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255347.htm ** andrew has not replied this person yet.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255836.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255081.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0256797.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254437.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254536.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255267.htm ** best response to Andrew yet
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255106.htm ** social security money taken from account
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254985.htm ** mike puts some pieces together too.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254503.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254496.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254837.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0254571.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0253428.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...pOff0255298.htm ** greenzap CS refunds intabill withdrawl... I guess that counts as admission of guilt

whew!
Now if only a few of these people would take the time to file a complaint with the SD BBB so that the BBB knew about the Intabill fraudulent check complaints.


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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Hi,

I don't know if you'll ever receive this, however I'll try anyway.

I have a personal experience with GreenZap. I became a partner of theirs and contributed $1000, which I paid them $100 at the time for 10 months. I was going to receive it back eventually with additional funds after enrolling a number a people into their system.

I had a problem with my computer due to a very severe virus. After some months that I got back into working on the Internet again, checked on my GreenZap account, which had been disabled and I have not been able to get into it since, despite repeated emails to their customer service for a reason for closing my account and keeping my partner payments. I am interested in finding others who have been scammed by GreenZap and filing a legal complaint against them.

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Re: Intabill / Greenzap whose the real culprit!

Instabill is now soliciting in the name of Durango-Direct/Bank of Durango/Durango Bank/etc.

I contacted Durango for a merchant account for my charity organization and here is an email I received today morning. Luckily I checked the PDF attachment and being a law student realized the something is not right. A little search on google and I caught their scam with this thread's help.

The email goes..

"
Dear robin,
Our bank will require a copy of your charity license.

Otherwise, the fees are all posted below…

Thank you,
Nathan Counley
National Bankcard Systems of Durango
(p) 608.467.6672
(f) 413.431.2720
www.Durango-Direct.com

"

I hope this helps in preventing frauds in this new name.


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