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Old 06-01-2011, 10:34 AM
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Re: Auto Body Work

This just happened to me in the Albertsons parking lot of Harbor and the 22 in Garden Grove. A very nice red truck pulls up with a guy and his girlfriend, and he spoke really fast, I asked him for a business card, he didnt have one, so I said No and we both drove off, well, after getting paranoid that he stole my license plate, or targeted me for something else and follow me home. I got on here to check it out.

If you are reading this, douche bag in the red truck, If I see you in Garden Grove or Anaheim again, I will smash your face. So good luck trolling down here.


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Old 06-22-2011, 09:21 AM
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Re: Auto Body Work

I had a very similar experience to Staysick ... except I fell victim to the scam. A guy "Dennis" in a red truck (chevy, no front lic plate) with a woman and a kid in the car approached me in the parking lot of Henry's in San Pedro and said he could fix the dent in my car for $300. When I declined and asked for his card (smelling a scam) he reduced the price to $200 and said he could give me his card but if I set up an appointment through the business I would have to pay ten times what he was charging. Supposedly his boss had given him the tools to do a repair job that morning and he was trying to make money on the side. He said he worked for Same Day auto and specialized in Paintless Dent Repair. At first he said he would take a check but after getting out all his tools said "oh yeah, I just remembered its Saturday" and said he would knock $10 off the price if I give him cash. I should have stopped it right there but stupidly agreed. When he was finished he had put this substance over where the dent had been saying it was wax and I needed to keep it on so the paint could dry. He put tape over the inside trim on the headliner that was falling down, saying he glued it and to keep it on for 24 hours (that was an extra $100). He showed me where he put the glue in on one spot so I knew he "didn't just tape it up". Well, the next day lo and behold I took the tape off and found out there was no adhesive on all the other taped areas ... and where he pounded out the dent looks absolutely horrible. Instead of one almost inconspicuous dent I now have a rippled effect that looks like someone beat it with a hammer (exactly what happened). I tried calling the number he gave me : 425-312-8559 and it was bogus. Of course I didn't have time to research if he was legit before I agreed to let him do the work since he wanted to do it right there on the spot. It was totally stupid of me to let him do it in the first place but anyway I hope no one else falls for this idiot's scam. How this person can screw people over esp with his child witnessing and still still sleep at night is beyond me. He's probably cultivating the next generation of scammers!

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Old 07-02-2011, 03:53 PM
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Re: Auto Body Work

There are always a few shady scam artists lurking around in every city and I happened to fall for it: I got scammed by "Larry, Moe, and Curly" posing as mobile auto body specialists;.

Three scam artists approached me and said they could fix my door dent for $300, but you get what you pay for (or do you?):. They tried to *** out this dent then covered up the botched job by smearing red glazing putty (pink stuff) in which they called "rubber compound" to hide the job". It will look like they just waxed it, and they claim that when it dries after a few days, it will be good as new after you wash or polish it off,. In reality, all they did is take a simple repair and make it a very costly one,. After removing the so-called "compound", I found they added new damages to my door panel,. Additionally, they spray painted some scratches on my back bumper the WRONG COLOR!

Make sure that anyone you are dealing with is legitimate by calling the company and asking questions regarding services and location!. Most legitimate businesses have lettered trucks, signs, e-mail, websites, business cards and referrals.

If a scam artist like this approaches you, please call your local police department. You can ask for the Consumer Fraud Division. Any obtainable information such as a description of the scam artists or their vehicle license plate number would greatly help. DON’T GIVE INTO THESE SCAM ARTISTS. They even asked me to throw in a tip! There are unsavory people out there looking to make a buck no matter what it takes, especially with the economy the way it is. Unfortunately the these ‘people’ or PIRATES, as I’ve read, target the older folks and women…which was me. Be very LEERY of someone who approaches you either in a parking lot or by actually knocking on your front door to perform work. After extensive research I’ve learned they should have a current city business license, produce at least 3 reputable references, guarantee their work with a work order, accept other methods of payment besides cash, and be found by a reliable source. If not, get their license plate# and PLEASE SPEAK UP and call the police!!! I started a case with my local police department.

Here are the 3 guys to be weary of (of course..they are all probably fake names). They travel the inland empire of California as well as Orange County as far as I know.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS!

All Pro Auto Body (Green business card, but may pose as others businesses as well)

Dents and bumper repair call cell 602-614-5784 ask for Steve or Vince

909-391-6391 (disconnected # on the business card)

909-275-9543 (belongs to "Anthony" who cussed me out & told me to *** off)

Possible Alias:

"Vince Petro" - brown hair/eyes, skinny, light skinned, goatee, claims he's Russian but looks Hispanic

Anthony - black hair/eyes, chubby/overweight, looks Mexican but claims to be Russian, no older than 25, poor English grammar when he speaks

Michael - black hair/eyes, very dark, looks Mexican but claimed to be Russian, he was the quiet one.

They drove around in a red 4-door Silverado.



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Old 08-06-2011, 06:48 PM
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OK, same scenario - approached in parking lot of Target in Camarillo, CA on Saturday afternoon. It was a polite guy in a metallic dark-grey Silverado who said his name was "Don", with a middle name of "Tim" (guys beware if he says his middle name is the same as yours when you introduce yourselves). He said he worked for a body shop that also does mobile work and was cruising around looking for extra work because he had leftover materials from a job earlier in the day.

This was a situation with scratches/scrapes on the right front fender of our car, from a low (almost-zero) speed encounter with a parking garage pole. Most of the scratches could just be buffed off but there were a couple that were down to the metal. No obvious dents - just some paint transfer and scrapes. We were already planning to cover whatever repair was necessary ourselves to avoid involving insurance - had a quote of ~$1100 from one body shop in LA.

Now, the information that follows is what we experienced this afternoon in the parking lot - and there might be a very happy ending - and if there is, I will definitely apologize to this individual and give a really positive account of our experience with him - will make sure that he isn't lumped in with the rest of the individuals mentioned on this board.

We were wary - asked him for a card - asked the name of the body shop for whom he works - he said his boss wouldn't like it if he knew he was working on the side, that he really should refer us to the shop but it would cost so much more (which is true for sure). He said it would look as good as new (which is impossible in a parking lot) and we would pay nothing if not completely satisfied. He said he could factory-match the paint on-site and if he was unable to get a good match then he could go and pick it up in about ten minutes. He went through the whole procedure of what he would do. It definitely was not a snap decision on our parts - we asked questions and ultimately decided we'd let him do the fix, that it was a gamble but still maybe a decent compromise in cost vs quality. At this point, we had not seen his vehicle/ equipment and now we know this was a mistake.

He said it would take two-three hours - we could go to lunch, go shopping, that he didn't need the keys once the car was parked in an area where he could work. But - once we moved the car, we stayed to watch the whole process. It did take two hours, which is different (a longer timeframe) than some experiences others have had.

First, he sanded the scratches off, down to the metal in some places - also took a decent amount of time pounding out a small dent that we hadn't really noticed at all. He used quite a few different grades of sandpaper and seemed to be working very carefully. He used a small amount of Bondo to level the deeper scrape and fill in the scratches - he also used it to contour around the area where the dent was removed (to make a ridge/crease consistent along the length of the fender). He sanded the Bondo smooth and used a wet sandpaper/block to finish it. It definitely looked like he knew what he was doing and we were happy with the way the fender (metal) looked.

So far so good. Now, paint - and this is where we were thinking, maybe we should cut and run and let a body shop do the painting. "Don" went to Home Depot to get primer while we waited in the parking lot with his truck and our car. We were surprised he didn't already have primer from his job earlier in the day. He returned with primer and also a can of Rustoleum with a bright red lid. Tim asked him if that was the paint he was planning to use for the body and Don said that he was using that for primer. . . and showed us another can of paint that said something like "color-matched for Ford vehicles" on it, that this was the finish coat. We also asked him about the clear coat more than once. The first time I asked him (while he was still sanding it down), he said he would do the clear coat separately - when we asked him again, he said the clear coat was mixed in with the paint. RED FLAG - again - but again, at that point it was either drive off with an unfinished fix or let him go ahead, again planning to verify the work and approve it before paying him.

So, he masked off the blinker and bumper and right headlight and right tire - and then said we needed to be away from the paint to not breathe in the fumes - so we stood a small distance away, near the rear bumper of our car. He did use a grey-colored primer and then did several coats of bright red paint - but used a propane torch directly on the fender in between coats (at that point we were like, wigged, but not showing it - again at that point, what do you do, not being experienced at bodywork?). It didn't seem to take nearly as long in between coats as we thought it would, or should. We did not see him spray from the "Ford color-matched" can, and now from what I've read, it sounds common (if the guy is a scammer) to have these cans in their truck to show the customer. He may have sprayed from it - and I did spray some of it onto a paper towel before we drove away (and it was a red paint) so maybe it was a coincidence and it was a great match - or maybe the can was a decoy and now there's bright red Rustoleum as a finish coat on our car). There was definitely not a separate clear coat process. Again, when we first started talking to him, we were led to believe that it was a mobile operation setup, with equipment for exact color-matching capabilities (he actually said he would match from the paint color code from inside the front door - but he never did).

Not too much longer, and he asked us to take a look - the color match looked decent and he said the paint would lighten up and "tighten up" as it dried, that he was almost finished. It looked like spray paint at that point, but with it still wet, it was hard to tell what it would ultimately look like - and we've watched auto body shows where they use spray paint - again, not our field. Then, Tim saw him put a wax / sealant / liquid polish all over the paint - and he said "ok guys, you're good".

We were stunned, really surprised that he was going to give the car back to us without our being able to see the finished result. He said we needed to leave the wax on for a few hours to protect the paint and when it was buffed out, it should look shiny and like new. He said we shouldn't use a machine car wash on it for about two weeks but that it could be hand-washed whenever - also recommended that the whole car be waxed at a good detail shop in a couple of weeks.

We did not have cash with us (or a check, which he said he would take when we were talking at the beginning) - so we told him we needed to go to an ATM - so he followed us. We withdrew the funds and paid him (he said tips would be greatly appreciated but we didn't give any extra). Tim did call the cell number he gave us while we were with him (and it rang, he answered it while we were standing there - yet when I did a reverse lookup on the number later, it was a number from Bellevue, Washington). He did have a license plate on the truck, unlike some scammers I've read about tonight.

So now, we will see. We wish we had kept back part of the payment, given half and then written an IOU upon seeing the final result or something, since he had said we would pay nothing if not completely satisfied - yet that has not worked out well for others in the past. At the time he was finished and we were supposed to pay, it was just like, ok maybe it will look great - or maybe we got scammed - but neither of us really thought at the time to tell him that we wouldn't pay the whole amount until we saw it with the wax off. At least we were able to watch the whole process and it does sound different than some of the experiences where it was just Bondo to fill a deep dent, no paint, new damage - up until the paint, it looked like a really great job - and it might still be good - but it's so frustrating tonight to not know (we are going to unwax it tomorrow and see what happens).

So, what's done is done now - he said when we paid him to call him if there was any problem (like all the other guys say) - his number might be bogus and we are thinking he is probably out of the equation and nothing can be done - EXCEPT - to write on a message board and hope others will see it. I know this was a really long post and I really hope I can come back tomorrow and write that this person was totally above board and we are really happy with the result - and I will return and post how it looks when the wax comes off - right now it has just dried to a haze like usual when you wax a car - who knows what lies beneath at this point - except that we feel like it was smooth and looked great before the paint went on. We are totally not expecting a body-shop "like new" quality of paint job in a parking lot - obviously - yet we were promised something we were not given (a professional paint match with a clear coat) and then it snowballed into just finishing the process instead of stopping in the middle.

If this keeps someone else from a bad experience, it's worth the time to post this - and also helps us know in the future to run and not take a chance. IF we hadn't hung around and watched, it could have turned out really worse than it already might be - he might have done things differently because we were there. Anyway, just writing some of this and re-reading it, it's like I'm thinking how could you guys be so dumb. Lesson learned, and hopefully we won't have to use our insurance after all to fix this / undo a really bad paint job.

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Old 08-07-2011, 07:38 AM
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Re: Auto Body Work

This is a followup to the post above -

We attempted to clean the wax off of the fender this morning to see how the paint job had turned out. After spending all last night thinking about how the encounter with this guy had happened, we knew it was probably going to be a bad situation.

The wax came off of the factory paint really well - but the wax on the lower part that was sanded down and then painted would not buff out or come off - so now it looks like grey wax rippled on top of bright red paint, with some dark grey metal showing through along the edges where the paint had actually rubbed off with the wax. The new paint was also not feathered into the old paint at all so there is a really sharp line of demarcation between new/old, shiny/not as much.

So, we realize our mistake and this is meant to warn others about this type of scam. There were a ton of red flags, many chances for us to have bailed on the situation and for some reason neither of us did. We thought about driving away when "Don" went to Home Depot to get primer (with just the sanding/Bondo part finished - that work looked great) - when he returned with a can of bright red Rustoleum, why did we let him spray it? Why did we pay him, with a satisfaction guaranteed promise, when we were unable to check the work because it was covered with wax? Why did we get into the situation in the first place? It's not the money lost or the damage to the car as much as the fact of feeling totally screwed and wondering why we let it happen with so many chances to get out, why we let our guard down, when we know we're smarter than that.

Obviously, the guy is not answering his phone this morning. He knew when we drove away and were unable to see the finished product beforehand that he had us. We are considering going to the place where he said he worked since he claimed to be working for SMS Collision in Reseda, CA - he might not work for them at all, yet I am planning to at least call them tomorrow and make them aware that someone, employee or not, is using their name in connection with a mobile parking lot auto body repair scam.

We don't think his name is really Don but again, the truck was a dark grey metallic Silverado and this was in Camarillo, CA. Please be aware of anyone approaching you in a parking lot and claiming to do any type of work on your car. Again, just the fact that we were even TALKING to this guy yesterday completely has messed with our minds.

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Old 08-08-2011, 12:34 AM
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Dateline: Harlem NYC 8/5/11 approx. 3:30 pm; Broadway & 125th
same scam, different day
"Johnnie", his brother and and older guy cruising in a white, PT Cruiser --- NY license plate: FEW 7053 ---cornered me. They're speaking a different language, I query... they say it's Romanian. Fast talking, friendly.
Physical descriptions: "Johnnie" and brother, 5' 8-10" ish, rotund, big belly fellows, dark hair, mid-late 50s (Johnnie said hes 57), one with glasses (I think), wearing shorts, tee shirts and loafers. The older guy is a thinner and a bit greyer. "Johnnie" showed me a couple of scars from his heart attack. We were just chit chatting. He and the older guy are smokers, Marlboro I think.
MO---as described. "We'll fix it for $225, good as new right here, or you don't pay". First off, I should have bargained the price down to a lot less. It wasn't very bad damage. I watched while they did their thing. They did pull up the small dent spot, filled it in with some type of epoxy (or whatever --- not being a professional, I have no clue, which is the reason to deal with reputable business professionals. If you don't know you can't judge). They did some machine sanding which looked like the right thing to do. Meanwhile "brother" scopes out a coupe of other spots that need work and tries to get me to buy in for $300 (more). I'm adamant I wasn't even prepared to spend $200, so "brother" ends up down to $75 from his original $300, for the additional work and I've now agreed to a total of $300. Meanwhile, the older guy who went to buy the paint while they were sanding has returned and they drove me to the atm while they painted. Note: they never looked at my inside door panel to confirm the exact shade. Apparently eyeballing was all they did. I should have stayed and watched them paint as well. **the time we returned from the bank they were done with the painting and were in a big hurry to be off. "Johnnie" was wetting down the area he'd painted with water. Don't remember the reason he gave, but it was probably so I would not notice right away what a big difference there was in the color. Said don't wash for a couple of days, then have the area (or the whole car) simonized. Whole job took maybe an hour, max 1.5 hours start to finish, but more like an hour. Not long after they left I noticed the color is definitely not matching, at all. It's in the same family, but definitely not the same shade. AND THERE IS PAINT ALL OVER MY LIGHT AND BLACK RUBBER STRIP that runs along the panel. "Johnnie" did give me a number. Made a big deal out of letting me know the number was good and I could refer other customers. I called him on the number he gave (917) 504-4489 and he did pick up. He says take the paint off with finger nail polish remover and a tee shirt. Thanks a lot but I wasn't paying to have to come behind you and do cleanup. BTW --- the fingernail polish remover did not take the paint off of the black rubber strip. I haven't got to the simonizing part yet, but I'll post again when I get there. My gut tells me it not going to get any better, but at this point all I can do it the next step, i.e. simonizing. I'll check in with a couple of legit body shops too and get their read.

It's not like they didn't do anything, but safest bet is go to a reputable business you can sue if they screw up. If the color had matched I would not be writing this. In my case, my main dent would have cost me $500 to do professionally so I should have just waited and done that. But I would say none of these street guys have any value. They obviously know something. One curious passer** came up while they were working and showed me some body work he'd had done, presumably under similar circumstances --- the guy spoke mostly Spanish but it seemed that's what he was trying to convey --- and his work was flawless. I wish I'd dealt with who he dealt with. If you are tempted to take a chance, don't succumb to on the spot pressure. Insist it's impossible right now, you don't have time and get enough solid contact info. to get back at them. That way you can at least report them to the cops. I wish I'd thought to use my cell phone to video them and their work to post it on youtube. Otherwise, if you know someone who has already had work done and is a very satisfied customer (like the Spanish guy) and you can see the work, then stick to the old tried and true word of mouth referral. But like I said, I'll post again after the simonizing.


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Old 08-09-2011, 10:20 AM
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Still following up -

Tim called the guy (Don) who did the work on our car after we removed the "wax" product on Sunday morning - he did not answer (recognized Tim's number) - but - I tried to call him again on Sunday afternoon with my phone and he did pick up. We talked, I told him how the car looked and he said he would work on it more and make it right, and give our money back if not. He said he would call in a couple of hours to set up a place to meet. I told him we wanted the money back, not for him to touch the car. He said he would give part of the money back if he couldn't get the car looking like we wanted it to.

Of course he never called back - and I went to the body shop where he claimed to be employed on Monday, and they had never heard of him. We didn't think he was dumb enough to say where he actually worked but had to check it out anyway. I wasn't trying to get the shop to assume any responsibility in the least, just wanted them to know that this guy was using their company name for a front for his mobile auto body repair scam. The owner of the shop asked for the phone number and then actually called this guy while I was standing there, that's how we know his name is Don - because the shop owner said "who's this?" instead of just starting to talk. Don said "why would I use your name, I work for myself, I never used your name" (he did use their name, and he didn't say he worked for himself when we met him - he said he worked for this shop and was doing work on the side under the table, that he didn't want his boss to find out).

Both the Camarillo Police Department and Ventura County Sheriff Department now know this is going on - I met with them on Monday and gave a good description of this guy and the vehicle information and his name/phone number. It was humiliating to have to admit (not just on the web, to two officers) that we had let this happen but it might help them track him down if he screws someone else worse than he did us. I really think he might have stolen the car if we had left it alone with him, even if we hadn't given him the keys - he was fairly persistent in trying to get us to go eat lunch or go shopping while he did the work - wanted to separate us from the car and get us out of the area. I also talked to the editor of a Camarillo newspaper and he may run an editorial to remind people to be aware of scams like this.

It obviously wasn't the first time for this guy - he had all the lines, all the answers - we considered ourselves to be decently street-smart and it happened to us anyway. Here's hoping this will help others know what happened to us and that nobody will respond in the future if he (or anyone like this) approaches them and wants to repair anything on their car, even if it seems like just a scratch or two. Don't worry about offending or angering the person, just say "no thanks" and get out of there because the longer he explained what he wanted to do and how he would go about it, the more we let our guard down.

A good ending though - insurance is covering whatever it takes to undo this and the car is already in the body shop, a real one this time. We totally gambled and lost on this and it really messed up our minds for a few days, but maybe it saved us a more expensive or dangerous experience in a parking lot or on the street in the future.

DON - clean cut, average height, short dark spiked hair, small earring, neatly and cleanly dressed in jeans with a button down shirt and perfectly clean white shoes/sneakers. Drives METALLIC GREY SILVERADO TRUCK. Incident happened in parking lot of Target off Las Posas Rd in Camarillo, CA.


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Old 09-13-2011, 04:17 PM
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This just happened to me in the Target Parking lot in Manhattan Beach, CA. 2 Middle Eastern men in a new white pick-up with paper plates approached me. Fortunately a good Samaritan pulled up next to me and told me that these men did the same thing to her. They ruined her car. I panicked and wiped the bondo (or what ever paste it was ) with my hand and went into target to get some paper towels and water. Now my hand is irritated. Fortunately, they did not ruin my car, but did not fix the dent. They got very aggressive when confronted. I gave them $20.00 and told them that I am going to call the police. They sped off in a huff. I can't believe that I got scammed. After reading this thread, I don't feel so taken advantage of.

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Old 09-26-2011, 11:03 PM
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A guy by the name of Archie approached me at 99 Ranch Market in Arcadia an offered to fix my car for $150.00 from my recollection he was in a Gold or Silver but pretty sure it was a Gold ford. I wish I had gotten his license plate I really think this thread and subject is worthy of some investigation by 20/20, Night line, Dateline or any of these shows that do investigation because enough of us have been scammed so hopefully they'll find our story buzz worthy enough anyone interested in contacting them? I'm a 20 year old college student 150 is a lot of money to me!


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Old 10-23-2011, 03:24 AM
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This happened to me in the parking lot of the Target in Alhambra. It was a busy Saturday, and I had just parked and gotten out of my car when I was approached by a younger guy in a white pickup truck. He said he worked for Dent Pro in Pasadena and it was his day off, had a pretty fast sales pitch.

Said he could remove a large section of light scratching across my rear bumper for $60. I let him get out of his truck and take a closer look, and he saw that the side also had a dent above the tire well and yellow paint from scraping a pole. Said he could get rid of the yellow and touch up that section too (not fix the dent) in addition to the bumper for $100 total during the time I was shopping.

I've gotten an estimate for the bumper alone, and it was over $300. So this sounded pretty good. I wish I had done a little research, but he was persuasive, and like everyone else on this board, the temptation of getting a quick and relatively cheap fix on a minor but irritating problem was very strong.

He said he had sandpaper and all the necessary equipment to do the job, that he would use my VIN number to match the paint. I actually handed him a small bottle of touch-up paint that I had gotten from the dealer years ago and never used, which was all dried up. I asked how he would get the paint, and he said he would call it in and his buddy would bring it.

He gave me his driver's license so I could copy his info down, and gave me his cell phone number (I didn't test it), and I also wrote down his truck license plate before I let him do his work. I am not sure why I didn't stay to watch, I regret that.

When I came back about 20-30 mins later, he was waiting for me. He was pouring small streams of water from a bottle over the bumper. The scratches were still lightly visible, but at least the white stuff was gone and the silver paint appeared uniform. The section of yellow paint was totally gone, and he said he had put wax on it and it should stay for 48 hours before being buffed to a shine.

Now that I've read all the comments on this board, I suspect I'm going to have a problem when I wash or buff those sections. I'm still hoping not, that he wasn't a total scam artist, and that the scratches were simply light enough to buff away or whatever he did.

If he turns out to have wrecked my car, I will return to this board and post all his information. That would be the worst-case scenario. Best-case scenario, I paid a hundred bucks for a really swell buffing/waxing job.

(By the way, another knuckleheaded thing I did was to not immediately look up Dent Pro in Pasadena on my smartphone! Why didn't I?? It turns out it doesn't exist. The problem with all these interactions is that most regular folks in our current society basically believe other people to be good, and don't want to seem overly suspicious and offensive. I mean, it's rude to tell someone you are not sure they are telling the truth. So that's how we get into these sad situations.)


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Old 10-29-2011, 07:18 AM
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Neighbor & I were approached by two middle eastern looking men in white toyota driving the neighborhood offering to do dent repair on our vehicles. I could tell right away they were scam artists. All they needed was a bucket of warm water. Couldn't give me the name of the business they worked for and when I started writing down their license plate "6SCA369" they jumped in their car and left. Reported them to local Pomona Police Department.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:03 AM
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Re: Auto Body Work

Looks like someone very similar is working the Seattle area. Same MO, stopped me at a gas station, offered to remove a dent for $175, came back with $140 when I hesitated.

Followed me to my house (!) and did the work. No complaints about it, as it's an old car and it does look better. But then he talked me into a clear coat for another $100 that took him maybe 10 minutes to do? Hmm. After reading these reports, I am afraid the paint is going to come off in sheets when it gets wet.

Conveniently, no business cards though he asked for referrals. How does that work?

Burly/fat Russian/central Asian sounding guy, 40s, in large dark 4x4 with Colorado tags. Had a female companion who said nothing.

If the dent is fixed and buffed as he said, I won't feel so bad. He wanted another $40 to fix (patch and cover up the nicks and stuff in) the bumpers but there's only so much I think you can really do in someone's driveway.

EDIT: I just hosed the car down after reading all these replies. So the "simonizing" he put over the dent was just to cover up the fact he didn't buff out the scratches. The "clear coat" stuff didn't do any harm, but I'm not sure how you clear coat a car without washing it first. Seems obvious now but the early success with the dent made me less cautious.

So a lesson learned. I paid double what I perhaps should have, assuming a body shop would even offer at this small a job.

In hindsight, the lack of any business ID — business cards, logo on the truck — should have been a clue this may not be legit. If you get an offer like this and the guy can't produce a card or some way to check them out, walk away. Of course, no one will see this until after they have been stung

They prey on the quick and easy removal of an annoyance, on convenience. I'm mostly upset about the up selling of a bogus clear coat: that was a pure rip off. So maybe you can get some value from this but there is a risk.

FINAL EDIT(?): I called my local police and they say, since there was an agreement, there's not much they can do. But he left me a phone number which I doubted would be good but it was. He pissed and moaned about how ungrateful I was, how much value he added to the car, but might consider a refund for the clear coat nonsense. When I called him on not having a business license, he said he was licensed and bonded. If that's true, he's avoiding paying sales tax on services. And not providing a business name makes it hard to take him seriously. He had no reply to that.


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Old 11-24-2011, 10:34 PM
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If he turns out to have wrecked my car, I will return to this board and post all his information. That would be the worst-case scenario. Best-case scenario, I paid a hundred bucks for a really swell buffing/waxing job.

(By the way, another knuckleheaded thing I did was to not immediately look up Dent Pro in Pasadena on my smartphone! Why didn't I?? It turns out it doesn't exist. The problem with all these interactions is that most regular folks in our current society basically believe other people to be good, and don't want to seem overly suspicious and offensive. I mean, it's rude to tell someone you are not sure they are telling the truth. So that's how we get into these sad situations.)

Please post his info PLEASE!!!!

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Old 12-14-2011, 03:12 AM
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Check out what this auto body works guy did to his customers while repairing the damage in their cars http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...a-c573094.html

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Old 12-19-2011, 05:15 PM
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Dent removal SCAM in Long Beach, CA

It just happened to me a few hours ago and I am so mad at myself for buying this obvious scam. I was tired, wasn't willing to pay $400-$500 for the dent, but none of these reasons would put me in a serious stupid mood like this.

This guy got me at a parking lot on 2nd and PCH Long Beach, CA (where trader joe's is at). He was driving by and stopped. Rolled down his window and quickly told me that he can fix me car's dent and give me a free estimate. This part is important cause I really need to find this scam artist. -- short, a little chubby, almost bald on top of his head and have melted nails( because of the compound). Looks like a gypsy but I am not good at race guesstimates. Driving a white mini van with a chubby woman --- The van might be a dodge or chevy, don't remember.

He said he will give a really good offer cause it's his daughter's birthday the day after. $80 for the dent removal and I agreed. He kept saying "god bless you" while he was doing his scam and told me that I can go ahead and order my food. He covered the whole area with a rubbing compound and told me not to remove it for 2 hours. He also wanted me to refer him to my friends, blah blah.... you know all of these. I pointed out a flaw even over that compound but he convinced me somehow that the compound will work fine on the paint???

I washed that area off and buffed the excessive compound and I saw these sharp pimple kind of dents sticking out. (because of the pressure he made from inside with his iron tool) It looked horrible. I called the number, someone picked up, told me he wasn't there and gave me a fake number. After I realized that the second number was fake, called the actual one again, no one picked up. I am just hoping not to run into this guy in town since I would beat him up really bad.

Please! take this guy's license plate number, stall him and call the cops. His so called name is Al by the way. He looks like a scam artist head to toe but I was stupid enough to fail this afternoon.

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Old 12-26-2011, 02:55 AM
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That sounds a lot like the guy that got me here in Seattle. The minivan is different (dude here was driving a big truck) but the description and companion ring true, as does the method (leaving the compound in place so you don't see how little he did, etc.)

In his defense, he did put some kind of water repellent, as he claimed he would, and water still beads up. And the dent is mostly gone, looks more like a scrape than what it did. Worth what I paid? No, but I took away a lesson from it. I guess these folks don't hang around.

Damned if I know why I didn't use my camera phone to document this more…

And I actually called the guy back and got in an argument with him, so I got a real phone number. He was hoping I would find him some business, but had no cards or other info…

My contacts in the police told me in as clear a way as they could (they really can't tell you not to pursue) to just walk away.


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Old 01-24-2012, 10:04 AM
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The same thing happened to me yesterday. I pulled in to a gas station for some gas and some guy approached me about fixing the dent in my door. He swore that it would be as good as new when done. I thought he was with the gas station and the price was right, so I agreed. He had a young accomplice helping him. A few minutes into the job, the people from the gas station came out and ask him to leave. And that is when I realized something was fishy, but I was already roped in. They asked me to run my car (supposedly to heat up the paint) while they worked, so I could not really see what they were doing. When they were done, they put some white stuff all over the door, supposedly to protect the paint. They said it would come off in a few hours and the car would be as good as new. Well, now the car looks ten times worse than it did before. He gave me a phone number, which was 347-798-1122. He said his name was Al. He had Florida plates, which were AZG V37.

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Old 01-30-2012, 12:07 AM
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Where exactly did it happen? My guy's name was Al, too:)


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