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Old 06-04-2007, 01:05 PM
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'Fairness Doctrine' Liberal Ideology 101,102

Nothing on God's Green Earth will ever give us a more complete snapshot of the liberal 'ideology' in action than the currently-being-revived "Fairness Doctrine'.

In that way, it is almost a gift: A 'one stop shopping' resource for all anyone would ever need to know about these creatures. It reinforces every one of the most dramatic accusations and assessments made about them on this forum and elsewhere, and leaves them utterly without shelter or excuse.

This proposal would decree that equal time be assigned(forced) on AM stations so that the immensely-unpopular-with-listeners liberal loser-speak can be heard in equal measure.

This is a classic maneuver that liberals often employ--cheating! It stems from the childhood these insects experienced: losers on the playground, losers in sports, losers in competition of any kind. They learned at an early age to simply cheat whenever possible. Why? Well, it is only fair that everyone should win, right?

This is why they are trying to end numerical grading in schools, are giving academic credit for 'life experience' to those who can't read, and eliminating valedictorians and other outward signs of competition or victory. It is one of the many reasons that they despise this country, because we have had a habit of winning that they find...unseemly.

They have learned that, because of the (to most folks) disturbing and unpopular nature of many of their objectives, cheating must be an essential part of their strategy. They employ it all the time, so often that they do not even recognize their own dependence in it.

They simply believe that it is their right that if they are losing at something, it is okay to simply change the rules. They do this ALL THE TIME, with issues both large(the court system) and small( scam.com).

This issue also opens a window into why they despise capitalism and embrace communism. The key phrase, to them, will always be "FROM each, according...". Now they want to IMPOSE the allotment of revenue-producing airtime, basically admitting their utter disinterest in competition and fairness. As left-leaning as most of the media is, I just don't ever recall anyone on the right proposing to force-feed ideology to anyone, ever. Only the twisted liberal mind-set could even conceive of the notion of "forced opinion dissemination".

But, again, I think it is very important to let this issue play out in front of the American public. Hmmm...I wonder what Americans would think of this strategy? Now, there's a poll you won't be seeing anytime soon. LOL

'Not competing' sure ain't how we got to be the most powerful nation on earth.


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Old 06-04-2007, 01:27 PM
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I think most on this board, especially those on the right, would consider me a liberal, but I agree with almost none of the things you mention.

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This proposal would decree that equal time be assigned(forced) on AM stations so that the immensely-unpopular-with-listeners liberal loser-speak can be heard in equal measure.
That is just ridiculous. The market should dictate what radio stations play. I don't know if this is the case, it seems that many media outlets have a political bias in one direction or the other, but ideally market forces should mean that the number of left leaning stations are proportional to the number of left leaning listeners and the same for the right.

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This is a classic maneuver that liberals often employ--cheating! It stems from the childhood these insects experienced: losers on the playground, losers in sports, losers in competition of any kind. They learned at an early age to simply cheat whenever possible. Why? Well, it is only fair that everyone should win, right?
Well, yeah, I never was much good at sport. But I was awesome at hide and seek, and at British bulldogs, and I built some awesome tunnel cities in the sandpit, so I'm offended at the suggestion I was a loser on the playground.

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This is why they are trying to end numerical grading in schools, are giving academic credit for 'life experience' to those who can't read, and eliminating valedictorians and other outward signs of competition or victory. It is one of the many reasons that they despise this country, because we have had a habit of winning that they find...unseemly.
Yeah, that is stupid. They are trying to do the same thing here. The problem, I guess, is that some people just aren't going to do well at school. Instead of adressing the problem, realising that some people just can't do maths and getting them to do something else instead they figure we'll just ignore the fact that they can't do maths and keep encouraging them anyway.

I would rather see kids that aren't cut out for academia attend technical schools than continue on in a system that only rewards you for doing well at maths and english. I have seen too many people drop out of the system at year 10 and never pick up any skills at all, when they could have spent that time learning a trade or something instead of working full time at McDonalds.

As for the "life experience" thing, I can see how that may be relevant in some areas, mainly the arts, but for a professional or a techinal degree its just a bad idea.

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They have learned that, because of the (to most folks) disturbing and unpopular nature of many of their objectives, cheating must be an essential part of their strategy. They employ it all the time, so often that they do not even recognize their own dependence in it.
Wow. I don't think I've ever cheated, but then maybe I did and I didn't recognise it. Maybe I'm cheating right now. *shhhhh don't tell my examiner this Friday*.

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They simply believe that it is their right that if they are losing at something, it is okay to simply change the rules. They do this ALL THE TIME, with issues both large(the court system) and small( scam.com).

This issue also opens a window into why they despise capitalism and embrace communism. The key phrase, to them, will always be "FROM each, according...". Now they want to IMPOSE the allotment of revenue-producing airtime, basically admitting their utter disinterest in competition and fairness. As left-leaning as most of the media is, I just don't ever recall anyone on the right proposing to force-feed ideology to anyone, ever. Only the twisted liberal mind-set could even conceive of the notion of "forced opinion dissemination".
I like some of the philosophy behind socialism, but I don't think it is the way to go. I don't think a free economy is perfect, but it is the best we have and in general I'm against government interference in the market.



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Old 06-04-2007, 06:08 PM
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The Fairness Doctrine is a sack of anti-free speech BS pushed by a bunch of libs too lazy to make a decent radio program of their own (Air America sucked). This is the dumbest answer to Limbaugh.

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Old 06-05-2007, 11:07 AM
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I think most on this board, especially those on the right, would consider me a liberal, but I agree with almost none of the things you mention.



That is just ridiculous. The market should dictate what radio stations play. I don't know if this is the case, it seems that many media outlets have a political bias in one direction or the other, but ideally market forces should mean that the number of left leaning stations are proportional to the number of left leaning listeners and the same for the right.



Well, yeah, I never was much good at sport. But I was awesome at hide and seek, and at British bulldogs, and I built some awesome tunnel cities in the sandpit, so I'm offended at the suggestion I was a loser on the playground.



Yeah, that is stupid. They are trying to do the same thing here. The problem, I guess, is that some people just aren't going to do well at school. Instead of adressing the problem, realising that some people just can't do maths and getting them to do something else instead they figure we'll just ignore the fact that they can't do maths and keep encouraging them anyway.

I would rather see kids that aren't cut out for academia attend technical schools than continue on in a system that only rewards you for doing well at maths and english. I have seen too many people drop out of the system at year 10 and never pick up any skills at all, when they could have spent that time learning a trade or something instead of working full time at McDonalds.

As for the "life experience" thing, I can see how that may be relevant in some areas, mainly the arts, but for a professional or a techinal degree its just a bad idea.



Wow. I don't think I've ever cheated, but then maybe I did and I didn't recognise it. Maybe I'm cheating right now. *shhhhh don't tell my examiner this Friday*.



I like some of the philosophy behind socialism, but I don't think it is the way to go. I don't think a free economy is perfect, but it is the best we have and in general I'm against government interference in the market.

Dude! Of course, you wouldn't think of any of this! You are normal! You are probably sickened by the very thought of it. Most people are.

It is a simple fact that this is how liberals think. It is why they disgust most of the world. When you are baffled by what they do, it just means you ain't one of 'em. It's a good thing!

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Old 06-05-2007, 12:19 PM
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we should have a fairness doctine here on this board. the mods need to count the words and make sure everything is in balance. like if the lefties are real noisy for a week they get banned for a week. a picture counts as 1000 words, of course. and a video counts as a million.

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Old 06-05-2007, 12:21 PM
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The Fairness Doctrine is a sack of anti-free speech BS pushed by a bunch of libs too lazy to make a decent radio program of their own (Air America sucked). This is the dumbest answer to Limbaugh.

couldn't agree more bro :)
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:17 PM
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Dude! Of course, you wouldn't think of any of this! You are normal! You are probably sickened by the very thought of it. Most people are.

It is a simple fact that this is how liberals think. It is why they disgust most of the world. When you are baffled by what they do, it just means you ain't one of 'em. It's a good thing!
But who are these liberals???

I keep asking this on threads and no one has been able to tell me? Clearly they aren't just people with left-leaning social ideologies, because that would include many reasonably normal people on the board - myself, ian, bogie, etc...

Are you referring to members of the Democrat party? Are you referring to members of the ACLU? Are you referring to people that aren't Republicans?

I keep hearing "liberals believe in opening up our borders", "liberals hate god", "liberals like to kill babies", "liberals love terrorists", "liberals hate america", "liberals cheat", "liberals steal" etc etc. But I am yet to work out just who these people being referred to as "liberals" are.

Who are they? Do they really exist?

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we should have a fairness doctine here on this board. the mods need to count the words and make sure everything is in balance. like if the lefties are real noisy for a week they get banned for a week..
Left of what? Who? Bush is way left of Hitler, about as far right as you can get. Clinton is right of Michael Moore, about as far left as is possible. Just who's left of who.
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The fairness doctrine would likely put and end to any form of looneyism that passes a journalism. [see below] O’Rielly , Limbaugh and the rest of the foaming at the mouth neo-con pundits would be out of business if they were held to any standard that allows for an impartial review of the ’so-called’ facts they present.

“Looneyism” vs. Journalism Defining Threats
By: Nicole Belle on Monday, June 4th, 2007 at 1:28 PM - PDT

AttyTood:

Look, what really happened at JFK was a hijacking. A chance for the potential next leaders of the United States to talk about a) real threats from bona fide terrorists, such as the unstable situation we've fostered in Pakistan and b) other issues that actually affect the day-to-day life of most Americans, like education, was hijacked by questions based around a local law-enforcement matter.

And, as Josh Marshall and others pointed out over the weekend, this is yet another time that implausible, half-baked and unfeasible plots have been trumpeted as high victories in the war in terror, including one plan to take down the Brooklyn Bridge with a blowtorch, the plot to "blow up the Sears Tower" by losers in Miami who probably couldn't find Chicago on a big roadmap, and our own inept Fort Dix crew.

Not that it will happen, but I wish the media, from CNN to Fox to the AP to everyone in between, would go to the nearest window and yell: "All 'terrorism' is not created equal."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...ining-threats/

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This isn't liberal ideology -- it's fascism. Don't like the message?? Muzzle the speaker...

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I guess I will never understand how each side having a voice is somehow considered UN-FAIR!

Who knows more people might listen if other opinions are present, which means your message would reach more people, and by having the opportunity to challenge the rhetoric/comments made would help the side of 'right', whichever that side may be, would come out of the discussion much more creditable!

It seems that, public service/politics/propaganda in general, only has power if the facts are not all available, or only limited to one point of view!

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Oh and by the way I don't believe in cheating, or lying for that matter, even if it is too yourself, or any of those other ridiculous notions either!

Being fair requires no cheating!

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Nothing on God's Green Earth will ever give us a more complete snapshot of the liberal 'ideology' in action than the currently-being-revived "Fairness Doctrine'.

In that way, it is almost a gift: A 'one stop shopping' resource for all anyone would ever need to know about these creatures. It reinforces every one of the most dramatic accusations and assessments made about them on this forum and elsewhere, and leaves them utterly without shelter or excuse.

This proposal would decree that equal time be assigned(forced) on AM stations so that the immensely-unpopular-with-listeners liberal loser-speak can be heard in equal measure.

This is a classic maneuver that liberals often employ--cheating! It stems from the childhood these insects experienced: losers on the playground, losers in sports, losers in competition of any kind. They learned at an early age to simply cheat whenever possible. Why? Well, it is only fair that everyone should win, right?

This is why they are trying to end numerical grading in schools, are giving academic credit for 'life experience' to those who can't read, and eliminating valedictorians and other outward signs of competition or victory. It is one of the many reasons that they despise this country, because we have had a habit of winning that they find...unseemly.

They have learned that, because of the (to most folks) disturbing and unpopular nature of many of their objectives, cheating must be an essential part of their strategy. They employ it all the time, so often that they do not even recognize their own dependence in it.

They simply believe that it is their right that if they are losing at something, it is okay to simply change the rules. They do this ALL THE TIME, with issues both large(the court system) and small( scam.com).

This issue also opens a window into why they despise capitalism and embrace communism. The key phrase, to them, will always be "FROM each, according...". Now they want to IMPOSE the allotment of revenue-producing airtime, basically admitting their utter disinterest in competition and fairness. As left-leaning as most of the media is, I just don't ever recall anyone on the right proposing to force-feed ideology to anyone, ever. Only the twisted liberal mind-set could even conceive of the notion of "forced opinion dissemination".

But, again, I think it is very important to let this issue play out in front of the American public. Hmmm...I wonder what Americans would think of this strategy? Now, there's a poll you won't be seeing anytime soon. LOL

'Not competing' sure ain't how we got to be the most powerful nation on earth.
I often wonder if you are even aware that your searing commentary[ NOT!] and endless screed of mindless blather has zero value.
Just like everything you post you expect everyone to believe, on face value alone. that those insidious liberals are responsible for every horror perpetrated on the human race.
Never once have you posted any resource. outside of yet another raving and drooling neo-con from a useless OP-ED piece, that supports any of your tirades.
You are truly a 28 percenter soon to become a zero percenter. Your opinions and pointless ranting has been diverted to a sewage recycling plant where it belongs.

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Nothing on God's Green Earth will ever give us a more complete snapshot of the liberal 'ideology' in action than the currently-being-revived "Fairness Doctrine'.

In that way, it is almost a gift: A 'one stop shopping' resource for all anyone would ever need to know about these creatures. It reinforces every one of the most dramatic accusations and assessments made about them on this forum and elsewhere, and leaves them utterly without shelter or excuse.

This proposal would decree that equal time be assigned(forced) on AM stations so that the immensely-unpopular-with-listeners liberal loser-speak can be heard in equal measure.

This is a classic maneuver that liberals often employ--cheating! It stems from the childhood these insects experienced: losers on the playground, losers in sports, losers in competition of any kind. They learned at an early age to simply cheat whenever possible. Why? Well, it is only fair that everyone should win, right?
These are classic maneuvers that GOP Communist Red State Monkey Radicals often employ: Lying and Stealing. After all...their favorite tactics were already well tested when they were schoolyard bullies busily harassing anybody who simply wanted to mind their own business. And it seems to have proven equally effective for them in every major election since 2000 since, of course, to their warped and depraved delight, the schoolyard bullying can now be indulged on a global scale.


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This is why they are trying to end numerical grading in schools, are giving academic credit for 'life experience' to those who can't read, and eliminating valedictorians and other outward signs of competition or victory. It is one of the many reasons that they despise this country, because we have had a habit of winning that they find...unseemly.

They have learned that, because of the (to most folks) disturbing and unpopular nature of many of their objectives, cheating must be an essential part of their strategy. They employ it all the time, so often that they do not even recognize their own dependence in it.

They simply believe that it is their right that if they are losing at something, it is okay to simply change the rules. They do this ALL THE TIME, with issues both large(the court system) and small( scam.com).

This issue also opens a window into why they despise capitalism and embrace communism. The key phrase, to them, will always be "FROM each, according...". Now they want to IMPOSE the allotment of revenue-producing airtime, basically admitting their utter disinterest in competition and fairness. As left-leaning as most of the media is, I just don't ever recall anyone on the right proposing to force-feed ideology to anyone, ever. Only the twisted liberal mind-set could even conceive of the notion of "forced opinion dissemination".

But, again, I think it is very important to let this issue play out in front of the American public. Hmmm...I wonder what Americans would think of this strategy? Now, there's a poll you won't be seeing anytime soon. LOL

'Not competing' sure ain't how we got to be the most powerful nation on earth.
Unfortunately for these thieving murdering Monkey vermin - their entitlement complex notwithstanding - the public radio broadcast airwaves aren't owned by Rupert Murdoch or Pat Robertson. They are owned by "The People". And the FCC is charged with the responsibility of insuring their usage is in the public interest.

That means the monopoly that has been assumed by right-wing liars and war mongering GOP lunatics poisoning the public discourse unchallenged over the past decade may soon be subject to, at least, the sanitizing effect of a rational and truthful countervailing perspective - for a change.

And it's a good idea for a number of good reasons. These lying Monkey scum shouldn't be able to use the public airwaves to commit fraud and slander anymore than they should be allowed to use our public highways as a dumping ground for their festering garbage.
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Go fvck yourselves.

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Oh and by the way I don't believe in cheating, or lying for that matter, even if it is too yourself, or any of those other ridiculous notions either!

Being fair requires no cheating!
True, being fair requires no cheating! But, if you will DIRECT your attention to the two previous posters, mssrs. PSB and dchristie, you can plainly see that not everyone thinks that "being fair requires no cheating". To them, as it is with all filthy liberals, "being fair" has nothing to do with fairness.

They clearly state, for your perusal, their belief that it will be fine with them, sorry, preferable to them, if our airwaves are controlled by(presumably) them.

Because they recognize that they cannot compete, they do not want to try. They want what others have to earn to be given to them. And there it is--the liberal way. "Give me what I cannot claim through work, skill, talent, whatever. Give me what YOU have earned so that I will not have to earn it.

Is it any wonder that they hate our country so much? Much of what we claim as our history and heritage has to do with WINNING.


As for you two, you gutless FREAKS! Just when I think I have seen all your cowardly, craven, lying, filthy attempts at deception (and self-deception), comes this blatant and unmistakable approval of censorship of public airwaves! So, just so we understand...your position is that the Government(or, to you, THE MAN) must stay out of our lives, "just let us live, man", don't wiretap terrorists, let us have our weed, fight the power, and...oh, yeah, CONTROL THE MEDIA. By legal decree. Wow.

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True, being fair requires no cheating! But, if you will DIRECT your attention to the two previous posters, mssrs. PSB and dchristie, you can plainly see that not everyone thinks that "being fair requires no cheating". To them, as it is with all filthy liberals, "being fair" has nothing to do with fairness.

They clearly state, for your perusal, their belief that it will be fine with them, sorry, preferable to them, if our airwaves are controlled by(presumably) them.

Because they recognize that they cannot compete, they do not want to try. They want what others have to earn to be given to them. And there it is--the liberal way. "Give me what I cannot claim through work, skill, talent, whatever. Give me what YOU have earned so that I will not have to earn it.

Is it any wonder that they hate our country so much? Much of what we claim as our history and heritage has to do with WINNING.


As for you two, you gutless FREAKS! Just when I think I have seen all your cowardly, craven, lying, filthy attempts at deception (and self-deception), comes this blatant and unmistakable approval of censorship of public airwaves! So, just so we understand...your position is that the Government(or, to you, THE MAN) must stay out of our lives, "just let us live, man", don't wiretap terrorists, let us have our weed, fight the power, and...oh, yeah, CONTROL THE MEDIA. By legal decree. Wow.
I can see you have come a long way perfecting this character.
Even for you pman this is a new low. This rant is so delusional and detached from any known reality Lexx might have trouble getting in touch with you. You have finally found a very special play space for yourself.
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Which part has confused you? You are clearly advocating the 'control of information'. Right? I am quite sure that your position on this is made clear. You, and another, even less coherent but far more prodigious, poster have declared that censorship is okay with you. There is no other way to interpret it. Not that you have tried to be opaque.

If you don't like the phrasing, get out of the kitchen.


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