report scams here at scam.com dont get scammed Scams and Scammers - Expose hypocrisy and spread respect ! Don't get ripped off! REGISTER
Go Back   scams > Scam Message Board > Political Chat
Register FAQ Register To Post Member List Promote Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 05-29-2007, 05:32 PM
sojustask's Avatar
sojustask sojustask is offline
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 13,894
Using the only assets they have to market...

Isn't this something to be proud of? Declaring war on a country, hanging out there for several years or more, not addressing the needs of those who must flee and this is what we reduce a once proud people to...
************************************************** **

Desperate Iraqi Refugees Turn to Sex Trade in Syria
By KATHERINE ZOEPF
Published: May 29, 2007

MARABA, Syria — Back home in Iraq, Umm Hiba’s daughter was a devout schoolgirl, modest in her dress and serious about her studies. Hiba, who is now 16, wore the hijab, or Islamic head scarf, and rose early each day to say the dawn prayer before classes.

But that was before militias began threatening their Baghdad neighborhood and Umm Hiba and her daughter fled to Syria last spring. There were no jobs, and Umm Hiba’s elderly father developed complications related to his diabetes.

Desperate, Umm Hiba followed the advice of an Iraqi acquaintance and took her daughter to work at a nightclub along a highway known for prostitution. “We Iraqis used to be a proud people,” she said over the frantic blare of the club’s speakers. She pointed out her daughter, dancing among about two dozen other girls on the stage, wearing a pink silk dress with spaghetti straps, her frail shoulders bathed in colored light.

As Umm Hiba watched, a middle-aged man climbed onto the platform and began to dance jerkily, arms flailing, among the girls.

“During the war we lost everything,” she said. “We even lost our honor.” She insisted on being identified by only part of her name — Umm Hiba means mother of Hiba.

For anyone living in Damascus these days, the fact that some Iraqi refugees are selling sex or working in sex clubs is difficult to ignore.

Even in central Damascus, men freely talk of being approached by pimps trawling for customers outside juice shops and shawarma sandwich stalls, and of women walking up to passing men, an act unthinkable in Arab culture, and asking in Iraqi-accented Arabic if the men would like to “have a cup of tea.”

By day the road that leads from Damascus to the historic convent at Saidnaya is often choked with Christian and Muslim pilgrims hoping for one of the miracles attributed to a portrait of the Virgin Mary at the convent. But as any Damascene taxi driver can tell you, the Maraba section of this fabled pilgrim road is fast becoming better known for its brisk trade in Iraqi prostitutes.

Many of these women and girls, including some barely in their teens, are recent refugees. Some are tricked or forced into prostitution, but most say they have no other means of supporting their families. As a group they represent one of the most visible symptoms of an Iraqi refugee crisis that has exploded in Syria in recent months.

According to the United Nations high commissioner for refugees, about 1.2 million Iraqi refugees now live in Syria; the Syrian government puts the figure even higher.

Given the deteriorating economic situation of those refugees, a United Nations report found last year, many girls and women in “severe need” turn to prostitution, in secret or even with the knowledge or involvement of family members. In many cases, the report added, “the head of the family brings clients to the house.”

Aid workers say thousands of Iraqi women work as prostitutes in Syria, and point out that as violence in Iraq has increased, the refugee population has come to include more female-headed households and unaccompanied women.

“So many of the Iraqi women arriving now are living on their own with their children because the men in their families were killed or kidnapped,” said Sister Marie-Claude Naddaf, a Syrian nun at the Good Shepherd convent in Damascus, which helps Iraqi refugees.

She said the convent had surveyed Iraqi refugees living in Masaken Barzeh, on the outskirts of Damascus, and found 119 female-headed households in one small neighborhood. Some of the women, seeking work outside the home for the first time and living in a country with high unemployment, find that their only marketable asset is their bodies.

“I met three sisters-in-law recently who were living together and all prostituting themselves,” Sister Marie-Claude said. “They would go out on alternate nights — each woman took her turn — and then divide the money to feed all the children.”

For more than three years after the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, Iraqi prostitution in Syria, like any prostitution, was a forbidden topic for Syria’s government. Like drug abuse, the sex trade tends to be referred to in the local news media as acts against public decency. But Dietrun Günther, an official at the United Nations refugee agency’s Damascus office, said the government was finally breaking its silence.

“We’re especially concerned that there are young girls involved, and that they’re being forced, even smuggled into Syria in some cases,” Ms. Günther said. “We’ve had special talks with the Syrian government about prostitution.” She called the officials’ new openness “a great step.”

Mouna Asaad, a Syrian women’s rights lawyer, said the government had been blindsided by the scale of the arriving Iraqi refugee population. Syria does not require visas for citizens of Arab countries, and its government had pledged to assist needy Iraqis. But this country of 19 million was ill equipped to cope with the sudden arrival of hundreds of thousands of them, Ms. Asaad said.

“Sometimes you see whole families living this way, the girls pimped by the mother or aunt,” she said. “But prostitution isn’t the only problem. Our schools are overcrowded, and the prices of services, food and transportation have all risen. We don’t have the proper infrastructure to deal with this. We don’t have shelters or health centers that these women can go to. And because of the situation in Iraq, Syria is careful not to deport these women.”

Most of the semi-organized prostitution takes place on the outskirts of the capital, in nightclubs known as casinos — a local euphemism, because no gambling occurs.

At Al Rawabi, an expensive nightclub in Al Hami, there is even a floor show with an Iraqi theme. One recent evening, waiters brought out trays of snacks: French fries and grilled chicken hearts wrapped in foil folded into diamond shapes. A 10-piece band warmed up, and an M.C. gave the traditionally overwrought introduction in Arabic: “I give you the honey of all stages, the stealer of all hearts, the most golden throat, the glamorous artist: Maria!”



.
__________________
.
When an honest man/woman who is mistaken learns the truth, at that exact moment, he/she ceases to be mistaken or he/she ceases to be honest.

When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to
seek it elsewhere.
---= Francois de La Rochefoucauld


Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 05-29-2007, 05:33 PM
sojustask's Avatar
sojustask sojustask is offline
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 13,894
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Maria, a buxom young woman, climbed onto the stage and began an anguished-sounding ballad. “After Iraq I have no homeland,” she sang. “I’m ready to go crawling on my knees back to Iraq.” Four other women, all wearing variations on leopard print, gyrated on stage, swinging their hair in wild circles. The stage lights had been fitted with colored gel filters that lent the women’s skin a greenish cast.

Al Rawabi’s customers watched Maria calmly, leaning back in their chairs and drinking Johnnie Walker Black. The large room smelled strongly of sweat mingled with the apple tobacco from scores of water pipes. When Maria finished singing, no one clapped.

She picked up the microphone again and began what she called a salute to Iraq, naming many of the Iraqi women in the club and, indicating one of the women in leopard print who had danced with her, “most especially my best friend, Sahar.”

After the dancers filed offstage and scattered around the room to talk to customers, Sahar told a visitor she was from the Dora district of Baghdad but had left “because of the troubles.” Now, she said she would leave the club with him for $200.

Aid workers say $50 to $70 is considered a good night’s wage for an Iraqi prostitute working in Damascus. And some of the Iraqi dancers in the crowded casinos of Damascus suburbs earn much less.

In Maraba, Umm Hiba would not say how much money her daughter took home at the end of a night. Noticing her reluctance, the club’s manager, who introduced himself as Hassan, broke in proudly.

“We make sure that each girl has a minimum of 500 lira at the end of each night, no matter how bad business is,” he said, mentioning a sum of about $10. “We are sympathetic to the situation of the Iraqi people. And we try to give some extra help to the girls whose families are in special difficulties.”

Umm Hiba shook her head. “It’s true that the managers here are good, that they’re helping us and not stealing the girls’ money,” she said. “But I’m so angry.

“Do you think we’re happy that these men from the gulf are seeing our daughters’ naked bodies?”

Most so-called casinos do not appear to directly broker arrangements between prostitutes and their customers. Zafer, a waiter at the club where Hiba works, said that the club earned money through sales of food and alcohol and that the dancers were encouraged to sit with male customers and order drinks to increase revenues.

Zafer, who spoke on condition that only his first name be used, refused to discuss specific women and girls at the club, but said that most of them did sell sexual favors. “They have an hourly rate,” he said. “And they have regular customers.”

Inexpensive Iraqi prostitutes have helped to make Syria a popular destination for sex tourists from wealthier countries in the Middle East. In the club’s parking lot, nearly half of the cars had Saudi license plates.

From Damascus it is only about six hours by car, passing through Jordan, to the Saudi border. Syria, where it is relatively easy to buy alcohol and dance with women, is popular as a low-cost weekend destination for groups of Saudi men.

And though some women of other nationalities, including Russians and Moroccans, still work as prostitutes in Damascus, Abeer, a 23-year-old from Baghdad working at the same club as Hiba, explained that the arriving Iraqis had pushed many of them out of business.

“From what I’ve seen, 70 percent to 80 percent of the girls working this business in Damascus today are Iraqis,” she said. “The rents here in Syria are too expensive for their families. If they go back to Iraq they’ll be slaughtered, and this is the only work available.”


.
__________________
.
When an honest man/woman who is mistaken learns the truth, at that exact moment, he/she ceases to be mistaken or he/she ceases to be honest.

When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to
seek it elsewhere.
---= Francois de La Rochefoucauld



Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 05-29-2007, 06:41 PM
Dollander's Avatar
Dollander Dollander is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 172
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Scared and abused people more like it. I think the women in Iraq are a lot better off now then they were under the Rapist leader they did have. Wow they can go to school now and have a job now. But does that get mentioned by the Lefties? NO!

All you hear is them crying about how horrible our country is. If America is so bad then move to Iran or Syria and see which form of government you would rather have.
__________________
Challenging all Lefties to Debate logically. But not holding my breath.

Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 05-29-2007, 06:55 PM
bogie's Avatar
bogie bogie is offline
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,553
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sojustask
Isn't this something to be proud of? Declaring war on a country,
.
Since japan, germany and italy, who have we declared war on?
__________________
The terminally stupid and certifiably insane.

Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 05-30-2007, 07:43 PM
goodwitchofthesouth's Avatar
goodwitchofthesouth goodwitchofthesouth is offline
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The beautiful south!
Posts: 3,049
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

The only thing I find unusual about this is that it is in a Muslim part of the world.
This has always been the "oldest profession" because there has always been
and will always be a huge demand for it. Women resort to it all over the world
and always have. Guess the Muslim men arent all that devout are they?
Guess they can sew their wild oats while waiting to reap the rewards of their
72 virgins. :p

Reply With Quote

  #6  
Old 05-30-2007, 07:45 PM
goodwitchofthesouth's Avatar
goodwitchofthesouth goodwitchofthesouth is offline
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: The beautiful south!
Posts: 3,049
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

No offense Dollander...just a generalization and a bit of surprise that it would
be as easy over there as anywhere else.

Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 05-30-2007, 07:57 PM
GeneralTsoGood's Avatar
GeneralTsoGood GeneralTsoGood is offline
Banned for a bit
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,273
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

i have two questions.

1) isnt a female stripper one of the most illegal things in a muslim culture?

2) why does the iraq war force you to pimp your daughters? if you were a real man, you would do whatever you can and since you can easily go to syria, you can go somewhere else where you can work and provide for your daughters instead of pimping them out.

disgusting...

Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 05-30-2007, 08:31 PM
sojustask's Avatar
sojustask sojustask is offline
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 13,894
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollander
Scared and abused people more like it. I think the women in Iraq are a lot better off now then they were under the Rapist leader they did have. Wow they can go to school now and have a job now. But does that get mentioned by the Lefties? NO!

All you hear is them crying about how horrible our country is. If America is so bad then move to Iran or Syria and see which form of government you would rather have.

Which one of these did you NOT comprehend?

Refugee
Syria
Dead Husband
NO JOBS

Now, how did we improve things for these women by invading their country?


Lady Mod
__________________
.
When an honest man/woman who is mistaken learns the truth, at that exact moment, he/she ceases to be mistaken or he/she ceases to be honest.

When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to
seek it elsewhere.
---= Francois de La Rochefoucauld

Reply With Quote

  #9  
Old 05-30-2007, 08:34 PM
sojustask's Avatar
sojustask sojustask is offline
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 13,894
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by bogie
Since japan, germany and italy, who have we declared war on?
Were you sleeping the day we declared war on Terror (IE war onIraq?)

Has that been the whole problem with you all along, you missed something while sleeping and you haven't caught up?


Lady Mod
__________________
.
When an honest man/woman who is mistaken learns the truth, at that exact moment, he/she ceases to be mistaken or he/she ceases to be honest.

When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to
seek it elsewhere.
---= Francois de La Rochefoucauld

Reply With Quote

  #10  
Old 05-30-2007, 08:35 PM
sojustask's Avatar
sojustask sojustask is offline
Lady Moderator- Just call me Your Majesty
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Texas
Posts: 13,894
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralTsoGood
i have two questions.

1) isnt a female stripper one of the most illegal things in a muslim culture?

2) why does the iraq war force you to pimp your daughters? if you were a real man, you would do whatever you can and since you can easily go to syria, you can go somewhere else where you can work and provide for your daughters instead of pimping them out.

disgusting...
1) Yes

2) And they are refugees and there are no men/husbands/fathers/sons to support them.


Did ANYONE actually read the article word for word?

Lady Mod
__________________
.
When an honest man/woman who is mistaken learns the truth, at that exact moment, he/she ceases to be mistaken or he/she ceases to be honest.

When we are unable to find tranquility within ourselves, it is useless to
seek it elsewhere.
---= Francois de La Rochefoucauld

Reply With Quote

  #11  
Old 05-30-2007, 08:47 PM
Americanadian's Avatar
Americanadian Americanadian is offline
Librul Extraordinaire
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,814
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dollander
Scared and abused people more like it. I think the women in Iraq are a lot better off now then they were under the Rapist leader they did have. Wow they can go to school now and have a job now. But does that get mentioned by the Lefties? NO!

All you hear is them crying about how horrible our country is. If America is so bad then move to Iran or Syria and see which form of government you would rather have.

Ha...ha....ha....Dollardunce obviously didn't read the article, which isn't a surprise really. It's nice to know Frankie isn't alone in the rank congenital stupidity department. You two compliment each other well, LOL...
__________________
Quote:
franKg - "Since God was ok with Moses, Joshua and David burning cities to the ground and killing all the civilians I think he would be ok with us splashing a little water on some terrorists."

Dr poormouth - "Exackly;
It's not "waterboarding", it's "extraordinary baptism""

Quote:
Originally Posted by carlbenator
As discussed in a previous thread, this IRRATIONAL HATRED for the Jews and their RIGHT to SURVIVE is one of the many PROOFS of a God, AND a Devil.

Reply With Quote

  #12  
Old 05-30-2007, 09:06 PM
bogie's Avatar
bogie bogie is offline
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,553
Re: Using the only assets they have to market...

Quote:
Originally Posted by sojustask
Were you sleeping the day we declared war on Terror (IE war onIraq?)

Has that been the whole problem with you all along, you missed something while sleeping and you haven't caught up?


Lady Mod
I must have been sleeping. Only congress can declare war and I can't seem to find that declaration. Bush declaring war on terrorism is so much rhetoric. Means nothing since he can't declare war. I'm just messin with you lady mod. You know of my warped sense of humor by now. :D
__________________
The terminally stupid and certifiably insane.


Reply With Quote

Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Virtual Assets iprosperity Business Scams 7 11-30-2011 09:45 PM
Tax cuts for the rich? Ok, let's take their assets danrush1966 Political Chat 16 12-12-2010 09:07 AM
Market 10/market10/Market Central de compras 10, S imzune Internet Scams 0 09-29-2010 10:51 PM
Assets Of My Late Client MIZRAE Internet Scams 1 05-18-2007 08:30 PM
Bid 4 Assets sojustask Auction Scams 8 12-19-2006 01:31 PM

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




This site may contain advice, opinions and statements of various information providers. Scam.com does not represent or endorse the accuracy or reliability of any advice, opinion, statement or other information provided by any information provider, any User of this Site or any other person or entity. Reliance upon any such advice, opinion, statement, or other information shall also be at the User’s own risk. Neither Scam.com nor its affiliates, nor any of their respective agents, employees, information providers or content providers, shall be liable to any User or anyone else for any inaccuracy, error, omission, interruption, deletion, defect, alteration of or use of any content herein, or for its timeliness or completeness, nor shall they be liable for any failure of performance, computer virus or communication line failure, regardless of cause, or for any damages resulting therefrom. Just because a business, person, or entity is listed on scam.com does not necessarily constitute they are scammers. This is a free open forum where people can debate the merits from the consumer's or business owner's perspective. Registration and participation is always FREE.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:10 AM.




Scam.com Is Proudly Hosted By Rackco and Protected By CloudFlare


Scams Message Board - Copyright 2004-2013 Scam.com , All Rights Reserved.