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02-07-2007, 07:38 PM
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DubLi
(i was trying to spam for dubli but the mods won't let me)
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It is a little more than that!!! If it was only Spam it wouldn't be the end of the world.
Do you know about this company??????
Highly dubious - and that is being polite. It has been called "one of the most disreputable MLMs on the net" , "The Worst eBay Clone ever known" and those are only the nice comments.
I had the misfortune to buy one of their shops ....and discovered that their web site dublil.com is the least of their priorities - all they are worried about is selling licences to sell shops at 500€uros a shot (about 680$)
Have a look at them in Spanish or German if you can - there are some amazing stories from people who have had contact with them and their sales team (who seem to be on their 5th or 6th failed MLM). I was left with my mouth open!!
http://dubli.mdug.es/index.php The Unoficial Dubli Forum
And dubli say that they are trying to repress all forums that contain unfavourable information about them (only they call it defamation?)
This one should have been in Scam.com a long time ago. It is all over the place, especially poorer countries in South America where these schemes hurt badly.
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08-20-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: DubLi
could someone please post something of substance about why this company is a scam?
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08-22-2008, 04:44 AM
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http://dubli.mdug.es/index.php The Unoficial Dubli Forum
And dubli say that they are trying to repress all forums that contain unfavourable information about them (only they call it defamation?)
This one should have been in Scam.com a long time ago. It is all over the place, especially poorer countries in South America where these schemes hurt badly.
REMEMBER WHEN MICHAEL HAMBURGER WAS TRYING TO GET WIKIEPEDA TO TAKE DOWN "REAL" STUFF ABOUT LIBERTY LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL ???
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I believe they were banned from Wikipedia for a while for intefering with the articles on mlms! lol
There is a lot of information about them - although some had to be taken down because of threats to the forum owners by the company.
You will have to use a translator and look in Spanish and German
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Hello all,
I want to personally thank you for posting this. I almost made the mistake of being sucked into the Dubli pyramid by a friend. Unfortunately that person has already "invested" $3200.00 of his own money in the hopes of being able to retire from his daytime job and make $5,000.00 to $10,000 a month off other people. Which I might add he thinks is going to happen within the next 6 months. Before I heard about Dubli I had a girlfriend who lost $10,000.00 in "The Greatest Vitamin in the World" when they took her money and went under. I want to get the message out there to unsuspecting people around the country that they really need to do their research before being sucked into this thing. I have done some research though the German Lycos and read though some of the user posts about Dubli-Germany. I firmly believe that they are no better than a Casino selling chips to hopeful people trying to get something for next to nothing. I have even looked on the Dubli GTC or
General Business terms and Conditions, Part A of Section 1 in the second sentence they even state that dubli has gaming elements!!!! They know and are betting that they can hook the folks who are addicted to gambling to keep buying their Dubli credits and eventually spend more money without realizing it on products they can buy cheaper on other websites.
As for the Business associates I only have one question.
Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money, isn't your employer supposed to pay you for that?
By that I understand that it takes money to start your own business either online or brick and mortar. But if you spend the money to start your own business, aren't you selling your own product and keeping 100% of the profit?
I am going to contact my local news organizations and I hope they can do some stories about this company and let unsuspecting people out there know to tread very lightly around Dubli. I hope in the interest of ethical business everywhere, that folks who know share their knowledge with others in any way they can. I know I am going to.
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09-12-2008, 02:22 PM
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cabaretjulz,
I am a new Dubli Associate based out of New York. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but, I have to disagree with you on several points.
You talk about your friend "making money off of other people". Do you realize that Google Adsense (where you make money by people clicking ads on your website) is also making money off of other people? And Ebay's Affiliate Program (where you make money by people clicking to an Ebay auction link from your website) is the same thing?
In fact, I take issue with your characterization in general. When you own a business and people refer you to their friends and family, isn't that also "making money off of other people"?
You have described reverse auctions, which is what Dubli conducts, as gambling. If you had ever been to a live auction, or studied auction behavior, you would have discovered that there are always some people who get overly excited and bid irresponsibly. There is addictive behavior in many aspects of life but, calling it gambling, in my opinion, is just irresponsible.
How much did you study the Dubli business model, their marketing plans, the compensation plans, or the shopping portal Dubli is creating (which is going to allow consumers to search for products OUTSIDE the Dubli site)?
As one of the first Dubli Associates in New York, I have the benefit of receiving company news first hand. Today it was announced that Jordin Sparks, international Pop Star and American Idol Winner, has partnered with Dubli to raise money for her charity.
There are many people out there that believe that all Network Marketing type companies are a scam. Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion but please, study the model and be educated about it before you disparage the opportunity your friend is pursuing.
For more detailed info, visit www.dubliny.com
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09-14-2008, 12:56 AM
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Well said DubLiNY.
I came on just a few weeks ago and have been going over EVERY detail to the nth degree and the more I research it, the company, concept, compensation as well as where DubLi is heading with ecommerce, I believe DubLi will totally make history and be the most dynamic Internet revolution EVER.
I mean think about all the major giants in their class;
- eBay
- *****stlist
- Youtube
- Google
- Amazon
You know what they all have in common?
1) Their ALL Consumer Driven
2) They ALL Have Hundreds of Millions of Customers
3) Most are Worth 10's of Billions (eBay alone brought in some 59 Billion last
year)
4) And… They ALL started out... VIRALLY. Someone told someone who told someone and so on.
I can remember Google asking to send a link & invite a friend to try out their new search engine, remember that? YouTube and Yahoo did it too, in fact,
they all did.
Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of these companies and as
result of you starting a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?
That’s EXACTLLY what is available here with DubLi for those who help bring DubLi to the market place...
DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)
These are real percentages & real overrides, real money, just for leading people to great values and spreading the word.
I'll close by saying,
This is NOT your typical "MLM or business opportunity"
- No products to buy
- No lotions, potions, or pills to stock or sell
- No monthly minimums
- No auto ships to maintain
DubLi simply figured out how to make equitable & profitable for EVERYONE, including the customers, now there's a concept.
So DubLi a scam? Hardly.
Like DubLiNY said, do your research and I think you'll find DubLi to be quite promising.
Call me direct any time if you have any questions; I’m now making myself
available 24/7 for Q&A and conference calls.
John Degen
916.870.4772
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I hope that yearly and not monthly, otherwise DubLi is a HYIP ponzi.
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So what you call not MLM or not direct sales comp that takes "investments" from general public with expectation of monthly or yearly returns? Attorney General of USA calls it securities issuing company/corporation. And what security issuing company is supposed to do? It supposed to get registed with Securities & Exchange Commission as well as other goverment entities that oversee such companies. Did DubLi registered?
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- eBay
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- Google
- Amazon
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1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.
2)They started Virally because they had unique idea and young creative highly educated people in charge. I bet DubLi has geezers that run from one scheme to another.
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09-14-2008, 03:19 PM
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I hope that yearly and not monthly, otherwise DubLi is a HYIP ponzi.
So what you call not MLM or not direct sales comp that takes "investments" from general public with expectation of monthly or yearly returns? Attorney General of USA calls it securities issuing company/corporation. And what security issuing company is supposed to do? It supposed to get registered with Securities & Exchange Commission as well as other government entities that oversee such companies. Did DubLi registered?
1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.
2)They started Viral because they had unique idea and young creative highly educated people in charge. I bet DubLi has geezers that run from one scheme to another.
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As they say "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"
So let me help you with the rip cord.
This is ALREADY a working model in Europe my friend since Oct, 06, and tens of millions have been spent in the development since 2003 as well as getting ALL of the legal ducks in order for the US/Canada launch.
Along with 100 million dollar budget for branding the name DubLi in the next 6 - 12 months.
So it appears that have A LOT of time and money on the table to be approaching this thing half cocked.
RE: your remarks "1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.
This is a unique as it gets...
I repeat:
"Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of these companies and as
result of you starting a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?
That’s EXACTLLY what is available here with DubLi for those who help bring DubLi to the market place...
As a business Associate (one who buys a license agreement that includes inventory, "DubLi Credits") one take their liberty to share their inventory with the general public to introduce DubLi and build a customer base.
(I'm circulating my inventory as trial credits at my own website www.FreeDubLiCredits.com).
As these new found customers set up a free DubLi account and begin to buy, sell or advertise, the B.A. is compensated for this new found business. This my friend is; to use your words "a unique idea"
Have you ever gotten a coupon for a free beverage, movie, meal or any thing as an introductory offer?
Does that restaurant pay you anything for the new generations of business they get as a result of telling a friend to try their new ????
Anyway, not to be labor the point, but go to www.HowDubLiWorks.com
It is more than apparent that DubLi has knows what their doing for everyone involved.
John Degen
916.870.4772
Will you be one who said "I'm glad I did" or "I wish I had"?
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09-14-2008, 10:59 PM
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Well Borisf96,
Like they say, “the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it’s open”
So let me help you pull the ripcord.
I said, “This is NOT your typical "MLM or business opportunity"
I also said “Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of those Internet and as result of you “starting” a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?
Now this, my friend to use your own words is “a unique idea”
Take a real close look at the video at www.HowDubLiWorks.com and discover for your self the immense amount of time, money, vision and credentials DubLi has to offer.
Then join my team as we make history and become part of the largest and most dynamic Internet revolution EVER.
John Degen
916.870.4772
http://www.JDwithDubLi.com
Try it out for free
http://www.FreeDubLiCredits.com
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I've started looking into this, everything seems on the up and up, has anyone found any hard evidence to suggest otherwise?
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Go and look up dublinetwork.com on www.archive.org. It is not new - they used to call themselves the new ebay back in 2006.
So far I have yet to meet anyone with a shop that has had any success - we certainly didnt - and they tried to sting us for a lot of extras we never asked for (made ebay look cheap! lol)
Go and look up dubli in german or spanish. Read the blog link that someone provided above.
And go and ask lots of questions at Dubli about what has been going on over the past couple of years and where their loyal management and supporters are now. And what happened to the famoius stock exchange listing and who their brokers were. There are plenty of ex-dubli distributors around to ask all over the world
And please dont make the mistake of comparing this outfit with ebay or eCrater or any of the others - they are set up as auction houses for people to buy and sell goods online and that is the only thing they concentrate on. Dubli has been and still is an MLM which has very little interest in its product after 3 years online.
Do your homework.
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09-15-2008, 08:07 AM
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DubliNY,
You didn't answer my question,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money, isn't your employer supposed to pay you for that?"
Did you even read what you wrote? But then again you are a spokesman for Dubli.
As for JDwithDubli,
Are you just a parrot repeating what others have pounded into your head on those webinars?
"I mean think about all the major giants in their class;
- eBay
- *****stlist
- Youtube
- Google
- Amazon
You know what they all have in common?
1) Their ALL Consumer Driven
2) They ALL Have Hundreds of Millions of Customers
3) Most are Worth 10's of Billions (eBay alone brought in some 59 Billion last
year)
4) And… They ALL started out... VIRALLY. Someone told someone who told someone and so on."
5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend.
But you both are right on one thing, there are a LOT of gullible people out there who will spend a lot of money without even thinking about it.
Just out of courisity, how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in, in the past?
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09-15-2008, 01:13 PM
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ZeroDollarMarketer...
you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...
The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.
Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com
As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.
Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.
This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)
However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.
I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.
cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"
Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?
You also said " 5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."
For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.
second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words " are going to have to spend."
Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.
And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"
A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.
However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.
Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"
Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself
John Degen
916.870.4772
http://www.JDwithDubLi.com
Try it out for free
http://www.FreeDubLiCredits.com
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cabaretjulz,
Your question is "Why would you pay someone to promote their product, help them make money, etc...Isn't their employer supposed to do that?"
I believe that I did answer your question. If not, I will try to make my answer a little more clear. You talk extensively about Ebay and how they are a major giant in their industry. We agree on that.
Ebay has, and has had for several years, a program called the Ebay Partner Network. Please see www.ebaypartnernetwork.com. In sum and substance, YOU SIGN UP for the network, then DIRECT CUSTOMERS TO EBAY via your own online advertising, then EBAY PAYS YOU if the customers buy at auctions. And guess what, the more people you send to Ebay, the higher your percentage.
I apologize for the emphasis but, I felt that the point was very important to this discussion.
Google Adsense program: You list google sponsored ads on your website and google pays you when your website visitors click those ads. Again, the more traffic you direct to the advertisers, the more you make.
So why would you pay anyone to help them make money? I don't know why you personally would or wouldn't. I do know that countless people earn money in similar scenarios and with highly regarded companies.
The older posts in this thread asked for some specific information about the company. So I would offer any responses I can give to anyone else who has a specific question about the company, or invite them to visit:
www.dubliny.com
for more info and links to the company websites.
The company is new to the US market. Please note that there are going to be some announcements coming shortly about the business opportunity. I will post them on our blog once the info is made public. If anyone is contemplating becoming a Dubli associate but, is still doing research and wants to know more, I suggest that you continue to do your research and follow the updates.
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Of cause such generation of investments is illegal in USA. If you are smart enough you will check out some sources and figure it out.
When pyramid crumbles you will be forced to give up all your "earnings" if any.
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ZeroDollarMarketer...
you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...
The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.
Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com
As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.
Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.
This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)
However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.
I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.
cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"
Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?
You also said "5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."
For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.
second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words "are going to have to spend."
Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.
And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"
A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.
However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.
Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"
Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself
John Degen
916.870.4772
http://www.JDwithDubLi.com
Try it out for free
http://www.FreeDubLiCredits.com
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I hope this isn't a double post, sorry if it is.
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borisf96
"such generation of investments?"
ZeroDollarMarketer...
you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...
The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.
Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com
As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.
Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.
This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)
However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.
I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.
cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"
Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?
You also said "5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."
For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.
second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words "are going to have to spend."
Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.
And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"
A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.
However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.
Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"
Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself
John Degen
916.870.4772
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ZeroDollarMarketer...
you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...
The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.
Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website.
As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.
Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.
This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.
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DubliNY,
Wow guess what? You are absolutely right!!!!! If a reputable company wants to hire you , then you must go though the usual channels like submitting your application to the company who will hire you based on your experience and will pay you based on your job performance.
Look up the Ebay "Network Agreement" Section B Part 1
I don't believe Ebay is asking their employees/affiliates for a dime. Other than advertizing costs. Why don't you read the ebay user manual, and while you are at it read your beloved dubli GTC as well.
Boy you sure are clouded.
You should really read what you write.
I really feel that I have made my point. I want to thank you DubliNY for shedding light on your Dubli, and I really hope that the Three Thousand Dollars (or more) you gave to Dubli makes you a Lot of money.
In my opinion, you are a fool. But then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and mine is, I am going to keep my money.
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Who's applying for JOB???? Your comparison is total ignorance...
There was a new restaurant that opened in my city and the owner of the business spent a few hundred thousand doing so, but he took it a step further, the week before he opened he came to our church of 1500 and GAVE US ALL comp meals for the night before he opened; the placed was packed.
And you know what, it was a hit, we told all of our friends about it and I'm sure they told all their friends and so on. And now, that place is always packed, even I go back a couple times a quarter. Good food, great deals and fun place to be.
So my point is this, the "business owner" spent hundreds of thousands "to build", and thousands to "promote".
But, his promotional investment of a few thou in comp meals to help bring his new venture to the market place; has paid him back very well, exponentially, countless times over.
Now, did he offer ME anything for spawning any of that new business for him? I'll help you with the hard ones, NO.
That's what's available here with DubLi, one invests, takes it to the market place in the form of samples just like the free meal scenario, the only difference is for spawning this new thread of business, DubLi shares the profits of 10% - 24%, not a bad return on ones invest, don't you agree?
Like you said, I feel I've made my point, and I don't think I'd call you a fool (close, but that's kind of harsh) but I will say, this is America, and you do have the right to an opinion even if it is wrong.
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That's what's available here with DubLi, one invests, takes it to the market place in the form of samples just like the free meal scenario, the only difference is for spawning this new thread of business, DubLi shares the profits of 10% - 24%, not a bad return on ones invest, don't you agree?
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Again with the same trick. It is illegal to raise money this way. Since it is public investment and pays interest Dubli must issue bonds and register with SEC. Otherwise it is just an illegal pyramid or ponzi.
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YOU ARE! Only rather than submitting a resume' or application you are paying them an obscene amount of money!!! Dubli is NOT OFFERING you anything!!!! See that is what you don't understand. You are not opening your own business! You are not selling a product that you have created! You are not buying a franchise! You are working for them! AND giving them money to do it.
"And you know what, it was a hit, we told all of our friends about it and I'm sure they told all their friends and so on. And now, that place is always packed, even I go back a couple times a quarter. Good food, great deals and fun place to be."
I didn't see in this reply where you made your friends and family buy anything from you to eat at this resturant.
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I think we'll let the attorneys decide what is or isn't legal... I understand they've got some of the best crossing all the t's and dotting those i's.
cabaretjulz,
It's apparent that neither the light is on NOR anyone home, have a good day.
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Who's applying for JOB???? Your comparison is total ignorance...
There was a new restaurant that opened in my city and the owner of the business spent a few hundred thousand doing so, but he took it a step further, the week before he opened he came to our church of 1500 and GAVE US ALL comp meals for the night before he opened; the placed was packed.
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Your comparison isn't valid either. Your restaurant owner spent his "investment" money on real things like real estate, stoves and ovens, tables, food supplies and so on. His business is preparing food for people to eat. Any people who walk in and want dinner.
the Dubli business is just selling "opportunities" to people who then turn around and sell "opportunities" to people who want to buy into the system. It's not a business like a restaurant at all.
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also, as near as I can tell, this thread is a year and a half old, and you're still saying that Dubli will "soon" have a portal for people to use. When is that?
also, I DIDN"T post the google ads that are in this post. somehow they're put in automatically!
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also, as near as I can tell, this thread is a year and a half old, and you're still saying that Dubli will "soon" have a portal for people to use. When is that?
also, I DIDN"T post the google ads that are in this post. somehow they're put in automatically!
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Juulie Downs,
Dubli's European business was formed in 2003. Their website in Europe launched in October, 2006. It is the expansion into North and South America that is coming "soon". In fact, the official launch is September 28, 2008 with the actual newly developed website just for the US market scheduled to launch on October 4, 2008.
The Google Ads appear automatically as programmed by the administrators/owners of scam.com. And they get paid everytime a person clicks on them. Whether anyone is a fan or against network marketing, it is without dispute that this form of business is legitimate and increasing in popularity simply by virtue of the fact that companies, whether it be Google, Ebay, Amazon, Walmart or Dubli, are searching for ways to drive traffic to their business and increase revenue.
I feel that I have added as much as I can to this discussion short of simply going back and forth with people who simply don't believe in network marketing and never will so I will leave you all with this:
I intend, as a Dubli representative, to provide an honest perspective to all those interested in become Dubli Business Associates. This business is NOT for everyone. I want to work with people who are willing to do the work necessary to increase their income. And I want to work with people who are prepared to learn how a home based internet business is run. ANYONE who thinks that they will become a Dubli Associate, or a representative for any company for that matter, and make money without hard work is kidding themselves. Whether you work full or part time in this business, it takes work to reach your full potential.
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The selling of a business opportunity as you call it, is only half of the story.
As a Business Associate you receive DubLi credits, I can (and will) use the credits my self, give them away as thank you gifts, gift certificates, vouchers, or incentives
If I was a car salesman, I can send a thank you card to my client and give them 10 or 20 credits as a thank you for their business or for giving me a referral.
I open a new car wash (or any brick and mortar business for that mater) and offer 3, 5 or 20 free DubLi credits with every .... NEVER talking about any business opportunity. But at the same time building a CUSTOMER BASE.
This allowing and starting the same viral process or new thread (mentioned in an earlier post) of commissionable customers brought to to the table for generations to come.
As I said this is NOT your typical MLM
or business opportunity.
JD
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borisf96,
I think we'll let the attorneys decide what is or isn't legal... I understand they've got some of the best crossing all the t's and dotting those i's.
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You do not have attorneys, but you should. Since Dubli founders will be prosecuted at least on civil charges.
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So how big it is in Europe? How much stuff was sold therough their European website?
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The selling of a business opportunity as you call it, is only half of the story.
As a Business Associate you receive DubLi credits, I can (and will) use the credits my self, give them away as thank you gifts, gift certificates, vouchers, or incentives
If I was a car salesman, I can send a thank you card to my client and give them 10 or 20 credits as a thank you for their business or for giving me a referral.
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Okay, so I buy into Dubli. What is my website FOR? Do people just go there to see ads? And where are the gift certificates and vouchers good? When we referred a friend to a place we'd bought a car, we got a gift certificate to a restaurant. Why would a restaurant give you a gift certificate to give to your "customers"?
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Okay, so I buy into Dubli. What is my website FOR? Do people just go there to see ads? And where are the gift certificates and vouchers good? When we referred a friend to a place we'd bought a car, we got a gift certificate to a restaurant. Why would a restaurant give you a gift certificate to give to your "customers"?
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What is my website FOR?
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"The website" is DubLi's (without ads by the way) its only yours by way of your unique " Business Associate ID#", thus making it possible to track the initial thread of new customers you introduced to DubLi.
As they buy their own credits, store front, or set up a fund raiser campaign; they then invite a friend to check it out (via their own " customer ID#" which is still tied to your number) they buy their own credits and so on through the entire genealogy how ever large that becomes; this is traced back to you and commissionable to the sum of 10-24%. need more on this you can call me direct 24/7 at 916.870.4772. (it's a whole lot easier to talk & listen than type and read)
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And where are the gift certificates and vouchers good?
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The DubLi auction site.
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Why would a restaurant give you a gift certificate to give to your "customers"?
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The restaurant gives it the to customers as incentive ie. instead of "buy one burger get get one free"
it's "buy a burger receive two DubLi credits"
or something like 10 free DubLi credit with every purchase of _ _ _ _ _ _.
Now, this business owner is somewhere in your genioligy and is buying these credits to use as a bartering tool or promotional incentive or whatever, people can be as creative as they want buy, sell, trade, but all of this activity ($$$) started somewhere and that's who the commissions roll up to.
Got it? I hope so, my fingers are getting tired
Jd
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JDwithDubLi,
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What is my website FOR?
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"The website" is DubLi's (without ads by the way) its only yours by way of your unique "Business Associate ID#", thus making it possible to track the initial thread of new customers you introduced to DubLi.
Exactly, it's dubli's NOT yours. What do you get with your website? Advertising? Oh that's right you get a back office, which tracks how many people are buying credits and keeping you up to date on the action of the people under you. Which I might add, if your Business Associates do not perform or keep their customers status current, then they take away part of your percentage. Oh and might I add that you have to renew your "license" annually. That means you have to spend that Three Thousand Dollars (or more) Every Year!
How are you supposed to find new customers and Business Associates once you have driven your friends and family to the point of hanging up on your after to take them for all of the money they are willing to spend? I guess you will have to spend MORE money on advertising!!!
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And where are the gift certificates and vouchers good?
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The DubLi auction site.
Yes you can give gift certificates for Dubli Credits, NOT redeemable for actual merchandise.
Let me ask you this....can you redeem your dubli credits for cash?
DubliNY,
In fact, the official launch is September 28, 2008 with the actual newly developed website just for the US market scheduled to launch on October 4, 2008.
So now, the US date has been changed to October. So basically the US launch date of September 28th is just to advertise and get more people roped in before the "Actual" US website launch date on Oct 4th? Or is that date going to change too?
You two are right, I am certainly NOT a believer of NWM or MLM. And I am sure there are a lot of people out there who are not as well. I feel there is for a very good reason for the lack of support. Here are a few taken right from the FTC website....
| Comment Number: | 522418-01684 | | Received: | 6/10/2006 7:56:34 AM | | Organization: | | | Commenter: | Katy Li | | State: | MD | | Subject: | Business Opportunity Rule | | Title: | Notice of Proposed Rulemaking | | CFR Citation: | 16 CFR Part 437 | | No Attachments | |
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PLEASE PLEASE make this proposal into law! Untold numbers of people lose money in MLM scams every year in this country! I lost $1200 in Mary Kay, and if I had been given basic statistics about the company I never would have joined. MLMs make inflated income statements at every opportunity, flash potential recruits their big checks, and never disclose all the expenses involved. They purposely lie to recruits to get them to sign up and buy lots of products. While I do not think this proposal goes far enough, it is a start. MLM companies MUST be required to disclose statistics on how many people sign up and fail each year, as well as the statistics on what percentage of the sales force is actually drawing any income, and how much. They should also be required to disclose the number of representatives in a given zip code (i.e. : MARKET SATURATION) These MLM companies are telling recruits that the market cannot be saturated, and any one can earn money if they work the program - these lies are causing hard-working Americans to lose vast amounts of money every year. Canada requires MLMs to do this; it is time for the United States to catch up and stop these scam artists!
Here's someone who has a lot of info on the subject of MLM schemes!!!
Robert L. FitzPatrick, Pres. Pyramid Scheme Alert.org
I have experience in the sales field. In my opinion, if you want solid leads and referrals then you must provide excellent customer care which will prompt your customers to refer you based on actual job performance, not incentives. You can offer them all the money in the world, but if you suck at your job, or the company you are trying to promote sucks, then noone will shop with you.
When you finally get the website for the US up and running, is dubli going to provide a forum where customers can leave comments on their experience?
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cabaretjulz...
Man, you got issues!
keep their customers status current...
What are you talking about? there is no need for any CURRENT anything
Have read any of this thread or even seen the presentation?
And regarding;
...then they take away part of your percentage.
The percentage is based on ANY activity, large or small, wide or narrow, deep or shallow &... with no obligations, quotas or minimums "I might add"
You know cabaretjulz; I can't explain to you what vanilla ice cream taste like, you'll just have to go try it for yourself.
JD
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www.AuctionBizOverview.com
www.FreeAuctionCredits.com
PS
The domain names mentioned in this thread HowDubLiworks.com - DubLiNetworkUSA.com & MyDubLi usa.com had belonged to me.
I contacted the compliance department at corporate to confirm approval (after the fact)and they have asked me to delete them, so those URLs are no longer working.
Which by the way says something about the integrity of the company...
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Okay, but if none of my friends is interested, they're not gonna get a customer number and not gonna refer their friends, right? And let's face it 24% of 0 is 0.
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no, no, you explained it fine, and I can read!
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The restaurant gives it the to customers as incentive ie. instead of "buy one burger get one free"
it's "buy a burger receive two DubLi credits"
or something like 10 free DubLi credit with every purchase of _ _ _ _ _ _.
Now, this business owner is somewhere in your genioligy and is buying these credits to use as a bartering tool or promotional incentive or whatever, people can be as creative as they want buy, sell, trade, but all of this activity ($$$) started somewhere and that's who the commissions roll up to.
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Buy one burger and get 10 Dubli credits toward a Dubli store front? Yea, a lot of my friends are gonna want that!
I think I'll pass on this one.
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Juulie Downs,
Okay, but if none of my friends is interested, they're not gonna get a customer number and not gonna refer their friends, right? And let's face it 24% of 0 is 0.
Yes, 0 would be correct, and if you or your friends aren't interested in using their search engine that will find the best deals available Online for something your already shopping for, or possibly getting brand new goods at fantastic prices in one of three auction areas...
Your right, I wouldn't go there either.
Will you be one who said "I'm glad I did" or "I wish I had"?
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keep their customers status current...
What are you talking about? there is no need for any CURRENT anything
Your people under you are not active until they sign up 3 people and those 3 people are not active until they sign up 3 people...and so on...basically that means that you will not recieve any commissions unless you have 3 people under you that are active and current.
Have read any of this thread or even seen the presentation?
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...then they take away part of your percentage.
The percentage is based on ANY activity, large or small, wide or narrow, deep or shallow &... with no obligations, quotas or minimums "I might add"
Yeah I can see how you missed this in the fine print. Just goto your dubli website and look up the compensation plan. At the VEEERRRYYY bottom of the page you will see AND I QUOTE,"
De-grading
If a Business Associate, who has achieved the title of Team Member or above, no longer fulfils the conditions for this title, he will automatically receive a warning via e-mail. The Business Associate will have one month to meet the conditions once again. If this does not occur, the title will be changed according to the conditions mentioned above under each title.
Such a warning will, for example, be sent to a Team Member if he does not have 3 active customers. If the Team Member does not regain the missing customers within the next month, he will be de-graded to the position of Business Associate. Afterwards, the system will check if the de-grading has any influence upon the nearest Team Leader in a straight line upwards. If so, the Team Leader will receive a warning, informing them that they have one month to recruits a new Team Member in his frontline or he/she will lose his/her title as a Team Leader.
Every time a warning is sent out regarding degradation, the system automatically sends a notice of this warning to everyone with a higher title who could be influenced by an eventual degradation. This gives the uplines sufficient time to prevent the degradation of their downline (and also to prevent them from being degraded). If a Team Member gets degraded to a Business Associate, and subsequently achieves the title of Team Member once again, the system will not renew any commissions, which have already been paid once.
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BTW...what about the customers who sign up with dubli and don't go though a business associate?
JD,
At this point I feel that I have chatted enough to the folks out there who take this MLM with a grain of salt and do a lot of research on the company and their policies.
You may think that I don't know what I am talking about or saying and that's fine. Just all the more reason for people to ask questions and do research.
I realize that you are a representative of Dubli and therefore you think that you can discuss and defend your business venture.
The hard truth is you have been sucked into all of the presentations and sales meetings without doing the research and looking at the hard facts.
It is a shame that nothing anyone is trying to show you is going to make any kind of impact. You will just have to find out for yourself.
It's kinda like trying to warn a good friend about the bad person they are in love with.
The one thing that I do like is the more you post on here, the longer scam.com stays at the top of the google search engine when people google dubli. So you are actually helping to warn people!
Thanks!
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and if you or your friends aren't interested in using their search engine that will find the best deals available Online for something your already shopping for, or possibly getting brand new goods at fantastic prices in one of three auction areas...
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Looking at the site, the shopping and the auctions, I see expensive European soaps, arcane electronic do-hickeys, "brand name" fashion accessories, and other useless junk. I have zero friends who use their search engines to "shop" for this kind of stuff at any price. My friends, family, co-workers, neighbors, co-congregants and other acquaintances spend a lot more time and ****** thinking about real life, such as learning math and literature, gardening, building lasting relationships, creating emotionally satisfying art and functional reasonable tools for living, and so on. Real life. Music, sports, good, healthy food, efficient healthy cars, pleasant comfortable houses for everyone. You know, real life.
Looking at julz post, it appears that I don't even get any commission until the "customers " under me sign up, not just buy something, but join somehow. and then those people don't "count" until they qualify, which means they have someone who "joins" under them? Wow. no way that's EVER gonna pay off for me. Not at the joining cost of $3000. Absolutely no way.
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Interesting concept,
Having been an eBay ***** seller, and advertiser on internet for years, this one caught my eye a couple years ago while in Germany on business and I was killing time. Although concept was unique, I didn't realize how many other revenue sources the low-bid-wins strategy produces.
If you look at the low cost search, believe it or not, this is more *****ful than the reverse auction aspect. People are searching item prices more than even, even if some don't, most will in the near future. I don't buy anything without searching the internet first, and advertisers know this.
Simply put, even without the opportunity, I would use Dubli, so I was happy to see it finally hit U.S. markets. Since it is free to register, what I see is what they saw statistically in Europe, each member refers on average five more. WOW, that is all I could say as nothing grows that easily with no monetary reward, so imagine what will happen when commissions are paid?
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Well put LOW-BID-WINS,
And cabaretjulz,
There is room to flop, as with ANYTHING, I think a structure like this will help separate the diligent from the lazy. Even at that, with their unique customer driven component, the laziest of the diligent stand a better chance to succeed than in most other opportunities out there.
You get out of it what you put in to it. Some people are fine with the 9-5 wile their boss is the one (the go getter) taking the risks, making the investments, scouting out new possibilities; making sure his team has a job next week.
BUT, if one of his deals go south or something happens to where monies get tight, guess what? Everyone down line suffers; and he starts trimming fat, layoffs, downsizing, BK's trying to protect number one, HIM (or her)
DubLis auction and ecommerce concept is going to be a hit with or with out me & with or with out compensating ANYONE, they've just made a handsome offer for the "diligent forerunners" to help bring them to market.
Will it work for EVERYONE? of course not, but because it's not another me to product, no lotions, potions, pills or juice to try to convince some one they need to buy "and above all" the unique consumer driven component with a really unique twist on compensation; this is BY FAR a whole lot more attractive than a lot of other offers out there.
With that, I'm done barking up this tree with you folks, I wish you all the best in YOUR endeavors and fair well.
To your success,
JD
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There is room to flop, as with ANYTHING, I think a structure like this will help separate the diligent from the lazy. Even at that, with their unique customer driven component, the laziest of the diligent stand a better chance to succeed than in most other opportunities out there.
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Structure like this historically separeted gullible people from their money.
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You get out of it what you put in to it.
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Actually in this case you get out attention from Attorney General since Dubli is running pyramid with "investment" as their product.
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DubLis auction and ecommerce concept is going to be a hit with or with out me & with or with out compensating ANYONE, they've just made a handsome offer for the "diligent forerunners" to help bring them to market.
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Actually I have seen few auction websites with this model last year and none of them hit yet.
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09-20-2008, 02:58 AM
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I don't get it what does this company actually take your money for? I dunno about success in Europe I have never heard of them I live in the UK
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09-20-2008, 03:56 AM
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I don't get it what does this company actually take your money for?
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Percentage of sales from your customers'/referrals' purchases down the line and cut from your recruits/associates. Only thing I am not sure if $3k is for merchandise you supposed to sell your "customer" downline or it is for privilege to buy merchandise? And what if your downline does not want to buy what you are selling or word of mouth is lost somewhere? What if your downline wants to buy from somebody else?
If you listen to their presentation, you think that they invented MLM/pyramid structure. And of cause as every hype men, they are "clueless" about how finite exponential growth is.
They also should tell promoters not to use word "investment". That what confused me at the beginning. When FBI and AG look at pyramid structure where you have to "invest" to get in, the only two options they see are illegal pyramid and ponzi. But if I got it right at the end Dubli is a traditional MLM.
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09-20-2008, 05:08 AM
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If anyone has told our american friends that Dubli.com com was a successful auction site in Europe - they are a little sparing with the truth. it was an almighty flop. The site was unknown and remains unknown by the internet buying public after more than 3 years and sales from it are negligable
In Spain and South America, where they had their biggest promotional "push", it ruined more than a few. Regretably there is no FTC in these countries and distributors who were sucked into this company were unprotected.
It is not new to the US. They were promoting the Dubli Network MLM - the sale of licences to sell empty shops back in 2006 and it was laughed out of town by all but a few. I had friends who were serious marketers and paying distributors, who left in disgust and lost their money. It has come back with new clothes and a higher price - it used to be 500€ - 750$
For an MLM to be successful is needs several ingredients including a major investment in its product - which is supposed to be an ecommerce site - but is in fact not a serious player in the ecommerce world - it is considered by the ecommerce professionals to be no more than a front for their licence selling activities. The Dubli.com site is hardly an example of great investment into product and their reputation for lack of investment into their product is already notorious
For an MLM to be legal, in the US (see FTC guidelines) and in many other Western countries - product must be king and commissions paid to distributors must arise primarily from the sale of product - i.e. empty shops on the dubli.com e commerce site. and sale of products from that site. Comissions based primarily on the sale of licences to sell are not legal.
The only recommendation I can give to anyone is to do their homework and ask questions and more questions. Ignore their impressive publicity machine to attract distributors and ask about previous distrihbutor experiences. ask about the investment and plans for publicity for the actual ecommerce product. Ask previous distributors how much money they really made - this company is not new. Ask why it has been such a failure in Europe Ask why they have threatened their critics with attorneys and even physical violence in the past. Ask why they didnt simply answer the challenges with reasoned explanations and economic data. Keep asking questions and ask for answers. Believing a companies publicity is not doing your due diligence.
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09-22-2008, 01:41 AM
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I am extermly curious to discover how many of the naysayers are employed by eBay.
Except for Boris, he portrays himself very well as a Russian Mafioso.
Good day.
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09-22-2008, 02:11 AM
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I am extermly curious to discover how many of the naysayers are employed by eBay.
Except for Boris, he portrays himself very well as a Russian Mafioso.
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Not me honey - Cant afford their prices either. And before you telll me how cheap Dubli was - you had better see some of the bills they sent out for hidden extras to their shop members - made eBay look like a bargain.
There are other sites who fund themselves in different and more transparent ways that end up working much better for their vendors.
Take away all the hype and an ecommerce site needs BUYERS and after all these years - Dubli doesnt have many and is unknown to the BUYING public.
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09-22-2008, 01:06 PM
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I am extermly curious to discover how many of the naysayers are employed by eBay.
Except for Boris, he portrays himself very well as a Russian Mafioso.
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Wow! Russian Mafioso? Really?
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09-26-2008, 09:57 AM
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i understand how every one is cautious about this...hell your sitting on a scam site...your all probally paranoid or have seen or meet failure though some pyramid scheme.
as for all of those against Dubli....i am sorry you have the weed of doubt growing in your minds. the only way you guys are going to make a good argument is watching the video...(witch is more like a ***** point at first) witch you can watch here www.sowing101.com
(its about 40 min long so be ready for it)
"I can't explain to you what vanilla ice cream taste like, you'll just have to go try it for yourself."
it explains dubli...that simple.
any questions and the Dubli network would love to answer them.
so if your going to argue this topic some more...try and not be an idiot and do some home work. the fact that people are calling each other fools is just down right dumb. the only fools are the people who don't do there home work...we learned that in grade school 
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09-26-2008, 10:55 AM
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i was reading some posts above and saw someone talking about why should they buy or "invest" into Dubli.
you don't have to buy a $3k package. its optional & recommended if your going to try and replace your current income. you can buy as many credits as you want..hell you could buy $10 worth of Dubli credits...the packages are ...DEALS....like 50% off with the 3k package. just like anyone selling something in bulk. why are they selling Dubli credits and why should you buy them? watch the dam video!
what someone would do with those credits if there in dubli for the money: give them away! why? (dubli is doing the same thing coca cola did when they first started. give out samples to the world to experience. you could have the best idea in the world...but if your not going to promote it at free at first, good luck trying to reel them in.
anyone who starts are gets into a company no matter if its a pyramid or not is going to make more money than the people below. i have never seen anyone start a company and make less then the people who join later.
if you have time to sit around and try and think of ways to crap on this fairly new company (with no debt might i add), you have time for the video. if your one of those people who aren't going to watch the video and continue to argue, your just going to hurt other peoples judgment on your opinion on this site...especially when people start seeing Dubli on the media. the media loves success stories...and dubli has been a success...with success comes people against it. as for all those people who aren't going to care to change..or even wanna change or just cant stop the inevitable success of dubli...i will try and hold my laugh as i pass you on the street. (of course i know i will never see you, even if i did i wouldn't know.)
one last thing for all those people not wanting to spend $ on this...there are people who have spent money on it....on dubli credits..why not ask them for 10 and see how it works for yourself, hell they paid for it...not you.
i am sorry if i offended anyone in anyway.
i could care less if your going to flame me.
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09-26-2008, 01:51 PM
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Not me honey - Cant afford their prices either. And before you telll me how cheap Dubli was - you had better see some of the bills they sent out for hidden extras to their shop members - made eBay look like a bargain.
There are other sites who fund themselves in different and more transparent ways that end up working much better for their vendors.
Take away all the hype and an ecommerce site needs BUYERS and after all these years - Dubli doesnt have many and is unknown to the BUYING public.
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lmao....where are you shopping at? and where are these hiddin costs that dubli has? the price goes DOWN every time someone looks at a product....you actualy bid and make the price higher on ebay...what you said made absolutely no sense.
you must work at ebay lol 
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