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Old 02-07-2007, 07:38 PM
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(i was trying to spam for dubli but the mods won't let me)


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Old 08-22-2007, 03:59 PM
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NOTHING BUT!!
It is a little more than that!!! If it was only Spam it wouldn't be the end of the world.

Do you know about this company??????

Highly dubious - and that is being polite. It has been called "one of the most disreputable MLMs on the net" , "The Worst eBay Clone ever known" and those are only the nice comments.

I had the misfortune to buy one of their shops ....and discovered that their web site dublil.com is the least of their priorities - all they are worried about is selling licences to sell shops at 500€uros a shot (about 680$)

Have a look at them in Spanish or German if you can - there are some amazing stories from people who have had contact with them and their sales team (who seem to be on their 5th or 6th failed MLM). I was left with my mouth open!!


http://dubli.mdug.es/index.php The Unoficial Dubli Forum

And dubli say that they are trying to repress all forums that contain unfavourable information about them (only they call it defamation?)

This one should have been in Scam.com a long time ago. It is all over the place, especially poorer countries in South America where these schemes hurt badly.




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Old 08-20-2008, 09:48 AM
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could someone please post something of substance about why this company is a scam?


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http://dubli.mdug.es/index.php The Unoficial Dubli Forum

And dubli say that they are trying to repress all forums that contain unfavourable information about them (only they call it defamation?)

This one should have been in Scam.com a long time ago. It is all over the place, especially poorer countries in South America where these schemes hurt badly.


REMEMBER WHEN MICHAEL HAMBURGER WAS TRYING TO GET WIKIEPEDA TO TAKE DOWN "REAL" STUFF ABOUT LIBERTY LEAGUE INTERNATIONAL ???


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Old 08-25-2008, 04:39 AM
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I believe they were banned from Wikipedia for a while for intefering with the articles on mlms! lol

There is a lot of information about them - although some had to be taken down because of threats to the forum owners by the company.

You will have to use a translator and look in Spanish and German


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Old 09-12-2008, 07:53 AM
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Hello all,

I want to personally thank you for posting this. I almost made the mistake of being sucked into the Dubli pyramid by a friend. Unfortunately that person has already "invested" $3200.00 of his own money in the hopes of being able to retire from his daytime job and make $5,000.00 to $10,000 a month off other people. Which I might add he thinks is going to happen within the next 6 months. Before I heard about Dubli I had a girlfriend who lost $10,000.00 in "The Greatest Vitamin in the World" when they took her money and went under. I want to get the message out there to unsuspecting people around the country that they really need to do their research before being sucked into this thing. I have done some research though the German Lycos and read though some of the user posts about Dubli-Germany. I firmly believe that they are no better than a Casino selling chips to hopeful people trying to get something for next to nothing. I have even looked on the Dubli GTC or
General Business terms and Conditions, Part A of Section 1 in the second sentence they even state that dubli has gaming elements!!!! They know and are betting that they can hook the folks who are addicted to gambling to keep buying their Dubli credits and eventually spend more money without realizing it on products they can buy cheaper on other websites.

As for the Business associates I only have one question.
Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money, isn't your employer supposed to pay you for that?
By that I understand that it takes money to start your own business either online or brick and mortar. But if you spend the money to start your own business, aren't you selling your own product and keeping 100% of the profit?
I am going to contact my local news organizations and I hope they can do some stories about this company and let unsuspecting people out there know to tread very lightly around Dubli. I hope in the interest of ethical business everywhere, that folks who know share their knowledge with others in any way they can. I know I am going to.



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Old 09-12-2008, 02:22 PM
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cabaretjulz,

I am a new Dubli Associate based out of New York. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but, I have to disagree with you on several points.

You talk about your friend "making money off of other people". Do you realize that Google Adsense (where you make money by people clicking ads on your website) is also making money off of other people? And Ebay's Affiliate Program (where you make money by people clicking to an Ebay auction link from your website) is the same thing?

In fact, I take issue with your characterization in general. When you own a business and people refer you to their friends and family, isn't that also "making money off of other people"?

You have described reverse auctions, which is what Dubli conducts, as gambling. If you had ever been to a live auction, or studied auction behavior, you would have discovered that there are always some people who get overly excited and bid irresponsibly. There is addictive behavior in many aspects of life but, calling it gambling, in my opinion, is just irresponsible.

How much did you study the Dubli business model, their marketing plans, the compensation plans, or the shopping portal Dubli is creating (which is going to allow consumers to search for products OUTSIDE the Dubli site)?

As one of the first Dubli Associates in New York, I have the benefit of receiving company news first hand. Today it was announced that Jordin Sparks, international Pop Star and American Idol Winner, has partnered with Dubli to raise money for her charity.

There are many people out there that believe that all Network Marketing type companies are a scam. Again, everyone is entitled to their opinion but please, study the model and be educated about it before you disparage the opportunity your friend is pursuing.

For more detailed info, visit www.dubliny.com


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Old 09-14-2008, 12:56 AM
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Well said DubLiNY.

I came on just a few weeks ago and have been going over EVERY detail to the nth degree and the more I research it, the company, concept, compensation as well as where DubLi is heading with ecommerce, I believe DubLi will totally make history and be the most dynamic Internet revolution EVER.

I mean think about all the major giants in their class;
- eBay
- Craigstlist
- Youtube
- Google
- Amazon

You know what they all have in common?
1) Their ALL Consumer Driven
2) They ALL Have Hundreds of Millions of Customers
3) Most are Worth 10's of Billions (eBay alone brought in some 59 Billion last
year)
4) And… They ALL started out... VIRALLY. Someone told someone who told someone and so on.

I can remember Google asking to send a link & invite a friend to try out their new search engine, remember that? YouTube and Yahoo did it too, in fact,
they all did.

Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of these companies and as
result of you starting a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?

That’s EXACTLLY what is available here with DubLi for those who help bring DubLi to the market place...

DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)
These are real percentages & real overrides, real money, just for leading people to great values and spreading the word.

I'll close by saying,

This is NOT your typical "MLM or business opportunity"

- No products to buy
- No lotions, potions, or pills to stock or sell
- No monthly minimums
- No auto ships to maintain

DubLi simply figured out how to make equitable & profitable for EVERYONE, including the customers, now there's a concept.

So DubLi a scam? Hardly.

Like DubLiNY said, do your research and I think you'll find DubLi to be quite promising.

Call me direct any time if you have any questions; I’m now making myself
available 24/7 for Q&A and conference calls.

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Old 09-14-2008, 03:47 AM
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DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)
I hope that yearly and not monthly, otherwise DubLi is a HYIP ponzi.

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This is NOT your typical "MLM or business opportunity"
So what you call not MLM or not direct sales comp that takes "investments" from general public with expectation of monthly or yearly returns? Attorney General of USA calls it securities issuing company/corporation. And what security issuing company is supposed to do? It supposed to get registed with Securities & Exchange Commission as well as other goverment entities that oversee such companies. Did DubLi registered?

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I mean think about all the major giants in their class;
- eBay
- Craigstlist
- Youtube
- Google
- Amazon

You know what they all have in common?
1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.
2)They started Virally because they had unique idea and young creative highly educated people in charge. I bet DubLi has geezers that run from one scheme to another.


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Old 09-14-2008, 03:19 PM
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I hope that yearly and not monthly, otherwise DubLi is a HYIP ponzi.



So what you call not MLM or not direct sales comp that takes "investments" from general public with expectation of monthly or yearly returns? Attorney General of USA calls it securities issuing company/corporation. And what security issuing company is supposed to do? It supposed to get registered with Securities & Exchange Commission as well as other government entities that oversee such companies. Did DubLi registered?


1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.
2)They started Viral because they had unique idea and young creative highly educated people in charge. I bet DubLi has geezers that run from one scheme to another.
As they say "the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it's open"

So let me help you with the rip cord.

This is ALREADY a working model in Europe my friend since Oct, 06, and tens of millions have been spent in the development since 2003 as well as getting ALL of the legal ducks in order for the US/Canada launch.

Along with 100 million dollar budget for branding the name DubLi in the next 6 - 12 months.

So it appears that have A LOT of time and money on the table to be approaching this thing half cocked.

RE: your remarks "1)They had unique idea and established business before people started talking of making money of them.

This is a unique as it gets...

I repeat:
"Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of these companies and as
result of you starting a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?
That’s EXACTLLY what is available here with DubLi for those who help bring DubLi to the market place...

As a business Associate (one who buys a license agreement that includes inventory, "DubLi Credits") one take their liberty to share their inventory with the general public to introduce DubLi and build a customer base.

(I'm circulating my inventory as trial credits at my own website www.FreeDubLiCredits.com).

As these new found customers set up a free DubLi account and begin to buy, sell or advertise, the B.A. is compensated for this new found business. This my friend is; to use your words "a unique idea"

Have you ever gotten a coupon for a free beverage, movie, meal or any thing as an introductory offer?

Does that restaurant pay you anything for the new generations of business they get as a result of telling a friend to try their new ????

Anyway, not to be labor the point, but go to www.HowDubLiWorks.com

It is more than apparent that DubLi has knows what their doing for everyone involved.

John Degen
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Old 09-14-2008, 10:59 PM
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Well Borisf96,

Like they say, “the mind is like a parachute, it only works when it’s open”
So let me help you pull the ripcord.

I said, “This is NOT your typical "MLM or business opportunity"

I also said “Imagine being in at the beginning of ANY ONE of those Internet and as result of you “starting” a few new threads of business for them; that led to bringing thousands if not millions of new customers to the table. What if they happen to offer you a monthly percentage on ALL of their buying, selling, & advertising activity?

Now this, my friend to use your own words is “a unique idea”

Take a real close look at the video at www.HowDubLiWorks.com and discover for your self the immense amount of time, money, vision and credentials DubLi has to offer.


Then join my team as we make history and become part of the largest and most dynamic Internet revolution EVER.

John Degen
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Try it out for free
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Old 09-15-2008, 03:17 AM
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I've started looking into this, everything seems on the up and up, has anyone found any hard evidence to suggest otherwise?

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Go and look up dublinetwork.com on www.archive.org. It is not new - they used to call themselves the new ebay back in 2006.

So far I have yet to meet anyone with a shop that has had any success - we certainly didnt - and they tried to sting us for a lot of extras we never asked for (made ebay look cheap! lol)

Go and look up dubli in german or spanish. Read the blog link that someone provided above.

And go and ask lots of questions at Dubli about what has been going on over the past couple of years and where their loyal management and supporters are now. And what happened to the famoius stock exchange listing and who their brokers were. There are plenty of ex-dubli distributors around to ask all over the world

And please dont make the mistake of comparing this outfit with ebay or eCrater or any of the others - they are set up as auction houses for people to buy and sell goods online and that is the only thing they concentrate on. Dubli has been and still is an MLM which has very little interest in its product after 3 years online.

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Old 09-15-2008, 08:07 AM
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DubliNY,

You didn't answer my question,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money, isn't your employer supposed to pay you for that?"


Did you even read what you wrote? But then again you are a spokesman for Dubli.

As for JDwithDubli,
Are you just a parrot repeating what others have pounded into your head on those webinars?
"I mean think about all the major giants in their class;
- eBay
- Craigstlist
- Youtube
- Google
- Amazon

You know what they all have in common?
1) Their ALL Consumer Driven
2) They ALL Have Hundreds of Millions of Customers
3) Most are Worth 10's of Billions (eBay alone brought in some 59 Billion last
year)
4) And… They ALL started out... VIRALLY. Someone told someone who told someone and so on."

5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend.

But you both are right on one thing, there are a LOT of gullible people out there who will spend a lot of money without even thinking about it.
Just out of courisity, how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in, in the past?


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Old 09-15-2008, 01:13 PM
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ZeroDollarMarketer...

you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...

The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.

Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com

As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.

Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.

This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)

However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.

I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.

cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"

Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?

You also said "5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."

For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.

second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words "are going to have to spend."

Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.

And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"

A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.

However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.

Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"

Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself

John Degen
916.870.4772
http://www.JDwithDubLi.com
Try it out for free
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Old 09-15-2008, 02:12 PM
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cabaretjulz,

Your question is "Why would you pay someone to promote their product, help them make money, etc...Isn't their employer supposed to do that?"

I believe that I did answer your question. If not, I will try to make my answer a little more clear. You talk extensively about Ebay and how they are a major giant in their industry. We agree on that.

Ebay has, and has had for several years, a program called the Ebay Partner Network. Please see www.ebaypartnernetwork.com. In sum and substance, YOU SIGN UP for the network, then DIRECT CUSTOMERS TO EBAY via your own online advertising, then EBAY PAYS YOU if the customers buy at auctions. And guess what, the more people you send to Ebay, the higher your percentage.

I apologize for the emphasis but, I felt that the point was very important to this discussion.

Google Adsense program: You list google sponsored ads on your website and google pays you when your website visitors click those ads. Again, the more traffic you direct to the advertisers, the more you make.

So why would you pay anyone to help them make money? I don't know why you personally would or wouldn't. I do know that countless people earn money in similar scenarios and with highly regarded companies.

The older posts in this thread asked for some specific information about the company. So I would offer any responses I can give to anyone else who has a specific question about the company, or invite them to visit:

www.dubliny.com

for more info and links to the company websites.

The company is new to the US market. Please note that there are going to be some announcements coming shortly about the business opportunity. I will post them on our blog once the info is made public. If anyone is contemplating becoming a Dubli associate but, is still doing research and wants to know more, I suggest that you continue to do your research and follow the updates.


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Old 09-15-2008, 02:45 PM
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Of cause such generation of investments is illegal in USA. If you are smart enough you will check out some sources and figure it out.

When pyramid crumbles you will be forced to give up all your "earnings" if any.



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Old 09-15-2008, 05:07 PM
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ZeroDollarMarketer...

you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...

The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.

Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com

As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.

Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.

This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)

However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.

I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.

cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"

Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?

You also said "5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."

For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.

second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words "are going to have to spend."

Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.

And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"

A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.

However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.

Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"

Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself

John Degen
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Try it out for free
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Old 09-15-2008, 05:13 PM
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I hope this isn't a double post, sorry if it is.
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borisf96
"such generation of investments?"


ZeroDollarMarketer...

you said: 5) They Are NOT mlm programs. They don't need "opportunity" calls or flash movies...

The customer has NO IDEA about any "opportunity" calls or flash movies.

Myself for example, I tell people "you've got to see this new auction site where the lowest bid wins, here try it for free on me"
I send people to my website FreeDubLiCredits.com

As people sign up for a free account, use up the free credits & THEN they buy their own credits to use (they can get as little or as much as they want), I, as a Business Associate will earn 10%-24% of the volume.

Here is the beauty, DubLi then asks this new customer to invite a friend, then gives the invited guest 3 free credits to try it out (for free) & the one who invited the person gets 5 free bonus credits when that guest makes their first purchase of credits; thus begins the snowball of a customer base.

This customer activity is all with out EVER being a part of or exposed to the business side of it. (it has it's own perks, see www.HowDubLiWorks.com)

However, the one who ultimately is responsible for bringing this volume to the table is compensated with the percentages mentioned above.
All of this just snowballs adding
commissionable volume to your group for years to come.

I hope this helps, call me if you want to talk.

cabaretjulz:
Your question; ,"Why in the world would I pay someone to promote their product and help them make money?"

Have you ever bought a shirt or a hat with Nike on it or any other name? Are they paying you to advertise for them or, did you pay them to advertise for them?

You also said "5) they don't charge you to click on a product just to find out how much more money you are going to have to spend."

For starters, a persons not going to click unless their interested in that item.

second, If a person wants spend just a few dollars in DubLi credits to SAVE 50, 80, 90% or more on an item if it's of value to them or in your words "are going to have to spend."

Every one is love to window shop, have fun and find deals, DubLi has just make it possible for a person to buy $10 or $20 worth of credits look for and hope to find the best deals that are of most value to them.

And to answer your question "how many MLM's have either one of you been involved in?"

A few and yes "I was a statistic," spending a lot of money on product, inventory & auto-ships with little to no return.

However, the customer & product driven component part of this program is NOT EVEN CLOSE OR EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE as any MLM.

Do they have an MLM side to this? Yes, But one can build a network of business builders (the MLM side) and/OR build a customer base and "DubLi pays you profits of 10% - 24% and then some INDEFENTLY for being the one who started that new thread of customers (ALL OF THEM!)"

Oh, do I sound like a parrot, I feel like I'm repeating myself

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