Greenzap? Latest Greatest Payment Processor

[mysticalmaze]

Hey,

What does anyone know or think about http://greenzap.com ?

They have no info and are using a private domain thru GoDaddy.

I did do an IP trace 67.18.153.211

whicjh lead to theplanet.com server ip, but further checking
lead to this:

OrgName: Office of the Future
OrgID: OFFICE
Address: 115 River Rd
City: Edge*****
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 02020
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-09-10
Updated: 1992-09-10

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-04-02 19:10
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Not sure if this is them or not!

Robert


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[HeatherRose]

I'm also very curious about this company.
Here's what I have found so far, and will let you know if I find anything else.

Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GREENZAP.COM Created on: 09-Jan-05 Expires on: 09-Jan-11 Last Updated on: 02-Mar-05 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: PARK19.SECURESERVER.NET PARK20.SECURESERVER.NET Registry Status: ACTIVE

[bobby1]

Let's see, if a million people sign up that's 25 million he has to put out before he makes a dime and that's not counting referral payouts. Not an unreasonable amount to sign up, especially since I've read the website has had 50 million hits in 3 days. (yeah right)

So lets assume he's going to beat Paypal's rate, let's go with 2%. That's $1,250,000,000 (read > 1.25 BILLION)in payments that have to go through just to break even. We'll call interest earned and expenses a wash for now.


Who is he? We don't know, because the owner of the site has gone out of thier way and paid extra money to be invisible...

http://tinyurl.com/6txhb

They are hiding behind Domains By Proxy which you have to pay for, so its deliberate.

Maybe his name is Ponzi?

[gobro]

No worries!

I have all the info on the chaps behind this.
I have done one heck of a lot of investigation on this one !!
I signed up initially as this looked awesome and plausible, but then I got to thinking about it all. Some things just didnt add up, so thats why I decided to check it all out. Yes I found the owner of the domain. Yes I have the lowdown on him. Yes I have the lowdown on the so called president also. This is all very fascinating & in some ways very amusing. I have refered 5 people already but I have stopped promoting after finding this info.

I believe that many entreprenuers have many knocks & many trys before hitting the right combo & Greenzap is a wonderful business BUT only if it is backed by the TRUTH! And that is to say not sneaky conmen who lie & cheat to scam people from their money. This is what I still need too find out.... 1. Where is there financial backing coming from? 2. Is the President really a successful financial markets investor.. provide the truth. I will call the Domain owner D.W in the next few days to find out a little more before publishing all the details of findings here! Gotta give the guy benefit of the doubt for now that this is all gonna be legit therefore I will not publish scandalous lies, rumour, hearsay or assumptions & never will. The Truth will always prevail! WATCH THIS SPACE

[mysticalmaze]

Man,

Wonder why its taking so long to get their site back up. Afterall, it only
takes like 24-48 hrs for a domain to propogate to the new SHARED HOST'S
dns right! :rolleyes:

Robert

[Nick Hetcher]

Hi All,

HERE'S A "PRO" GREENZAP COMMENT...

With all the hype and Internet scams, I can see why people these days run when they see almost "any" opportunity that comes along.

It seems that the bigger the potential, the greater the degree of skepticism. And also, all the more people taking pot-shots, many in ignorance and without having any facts what-so-ever.

To come to the defense of GreenZap, everyone...please hold your comments until you have the facts first. To make outlandish comments such as "this is a scam," without any (or much)information and evidence is ridiculous and those naive enough to run along with this slander
may be missing a great opportunity.

GreenZap has the deep pocket financial backing, management and ingenious business concept to "go the distance" with the likes of "any" of the big boys.

The web site as you see it today (4/6/05) is for pre registration. They did not expect over 5 million hits their first 3 days after just sharing the concept with about 40 or 50 people.

They have had to order high *****ed servers to accommodate this issue so people can actually get to the web site by Monday or Tuesday at the latest. You can't even get on it now. And no, they don't have some malicious code spying on people.

Do you believe everything you hear or read in print? Because it's in print, people tend to believe it's true. Weigh the evidence and site actual PROOF, before making such comments, please.

The GreenZap concept and planning has been *****ing for several months. June 1st will be the unveiling of what could be the next giant Internet business.

Rather than go into it too much more, be watching for weekly press releases and the GreenZap newsletter. They will spell out things people are asking such as:
1) How can they do this?
2) Why are they doing this?
3) Won't they run out of money?
4) Who are the corporate people involved?
5) Who is backing this financially?
6) Why are they using DomainsbyProxy?
7) What is their true business model?
8) Why are they better than Paypal?
9) How can I get involved?

And Much much more. The have hired a professional ad agency and public relations company. They have more than enough investors to fund this and know the value of a "loyal" member to their community. They want to make the GreenZap community fun and rewarding. A simple plan.

Offering $25 to open a free account is an inexpensive way to add a new member to their growing community. Offering rewards like this and for referring new members to GreenZap is the way they have chosen to build the community. They'll even be rewarding up to $30 for people we refer and they refer and they refer, etc.

This is your community, if you choose to embrace it. There are some really cool things on the drawing board. Give them a chance before you tear them apart. Remember the golden rule before opening your mouth too far.

Hey, they are not asking for ANYTHING right now (ok, your email address). Hey, if your email is that important to you then don't join the community. This is a free world.

If you think spammers can't get any email they want from 20 other "harvesting" methods, you're grossly misinformed. GreenZap is willing to GIVE us $25 for joining their community of online spenders and senders.

They will also offer a secured credit card, you'll be able to "zap some green" to friends for only $1 per transaction...no matter how big it is. They don't need to charge more like the competition and they still make good money. They know what they are doing. Give them a chance to prove themselves.

They are NOT building a large email list to sell spammers. Spammers already have all the lists they need and when they need a new one, they know where to go to get it or they generate their own.

There is a LOT more money in "this" GreenZap business plan than some penny-anti email scam. Give me a break. Come on folks, think this thru a little, don't put every "deal" that comes along in the same SCAM category.

Many companies are legit and really do have people of integrity behind them that want to see a better world. GreenZap is one of them.

Yes, you may need to see the proof first. So, you can be one of the folks who sits back and watches things happen and later wish you had joined and referred friends.

Paypal started with a few people and now has over 68 MILLION. GreenZap will be much better than Paypal...much less expensive per transaction and by rewarding us MUCH more.

Or, you can join somebody's invitation to join GreenZap.com for Free and receive your $25 on June 1st. It's not like they're asking for your first born child, or $50,000 or even $1,000.

They want to pay YOU to join their community and refer others, rather than pay the television, radio and print media. And the biggest portion of what they pay us is "after" people we refer upgrade to a credit card. Much more effective than paying the TV, radio and print media "before" anything happens (and may never happen). HELLO.

By the way. This is simply a "Rewards" system. This is NOT MLM (network marketing) by an stretch. There is no recruiting, no residual commissions and no over-priced products to sell.

This is FREE. Nobody gets hurt.

In fact, we're not selling anything. We're getting a reward for joining a community...for FREE, just like the banks pay people. GreenZap is not twisting any arms.

I'm a member of GreenZap (obviously) and not a corporate employee. The reason I wrote this lengthy essay (lol) is because I'm tired of all the negativity in this world. I'm tired of people attacking anybody and anything they feel like.

I see a company that wants to do good for people and has amazing things planned (ok, I do have a "little" inside information) and then I see people lashing out at them, with NO information. This is so sad.

I understand people have been burned. That will never stop. So who gives us the license to then go out and trash-talk any new idea, opportunity or concept that we feel like that day?

You may say, "Free Speech Nick. I just want to inform people of potential scams out there."

Good intentions but PLEASE, get your facts straight...first. To so otherwise is only bending the golden rule to fit out own needs or egos.

If after reading this you want more information, then be on the lookout for the press releases and news letters. I do not have, and will not take the time to spend on naysayer. When it comes to business, I like to work with "like-minded" positive thinking people. Life is too short.

If you want to JOIN the GreenZap community and "possibly" reap some rewards ("potentially" great rewards, but certainly not guaranteed)...then join me. My promo code is under my name.

Thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Nick Hetcher :D
Go to: www.GreenZap.com. Then type in the word: PM Nick Hetcher for this word, it's a referral. Note: You can't sign up for GreenZap without a referral. as the promo code. Then you'll get your own promo code and can offer others "worldwide" $25 to join. And, the $25 comes from GreenZap, not us). You'll get $5 when they join (all on June 1st) with the potential to make much more.

P.S. I "personally" believe that GreenZap will be the next MONSTER company. (I could be wrong). The greatest opportunity is NOW, however, if you choose to sit on the sidelines, that's ok. But don't cry later that you were not informed in the very first days.

[viralmarketing]

:mad:

So you only have to give your email address to pre-register?
OK, but I assume that to get the $25.00 you will need to hand over your bank details along with other personal info?
You have got to be kidding.

And what's to stop a million people joining just to grab the $25.00?
That would cost Greenzap $25M

Sorry, but it smells fishy to me.

As for the slander you mention I have come to believe that there is no smoke without fire.

Too many negatives so far and no positives.

Hi Nick I am not a negative person,but who is backing them? People can get burnt,if they are inept like paypal can be,funds do not come out.I am not apaypal fan. MO INFO CHEERS BU2U.NET

[viralmarketing]

Message to GoBro.
I know who you mean by D.W.
How did you get this info?
I have had dealings with D.W. in the past and his buddy J.R.
Please share what info you have.

[mysticalmaze]

Hey Nick,

The url you posted is a dead link! :rolleyes:

There has been no slander. One thing though- for you to come in here
with all this copy paste stuff, then add your ref name, should get your
post deleted, or at least edited.

Cheap method of promoting. Well I guess I'll go in there and support
this site, and post my referral name, and just maybe the search engines
will bring me some residual traffic. :mad:

So who are they? I highly doubt you even know...

This is the typical hype of a get rich quick scheme, so lets just see what
happens. You don't need a *****ful server just for a lead capture page.
Lets get real here!

If you think spammers can't get any email they want from 20 other "harvesting" methods, you're grossly misinformed

This wouldn't be harvesting. If you think about it, these would in fact
be "LEADS" all signing up to a marketing opportunity with return email
addresses, and most likely even IP addresses. These could be easily
sold for up to $5 a piece, as they are all HOT Leads...

This company as professional as you make them out to be, didn't even
bother to include a "privacy" policy. So, basically they can do whatever
they want with your contact info without recourse.

Robert