Greenzap? Latest Greatest Payment Processor

[mysticalmaze]

Hey,

What does anyone know or think about http://greenzap.com ?

They have no info and are using a private domain thru GoDaddy.

I did do an IP trace 67.18.153.211

whicjh lead to theplanet.com server ip, but further checking
lead to this:

OrgName: Office of the Future
OrgID: OFFICE
Address: 115 River Rd
City: Edge*****
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 02020
Country: US
Comment:
RegDate: 1992-09-10
Updated: 1992-09-10

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-04-02 19:10
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Not sure if this is them or not!

Robert


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[HeatherRose]

I'm also very curious about this company.
Here's what I have found so far, and will let you know if I find anything else.

Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GREENZAP.COM Created on: 09-Jan-05 Expires on: 09-Jan-11 Last Updated on: 02-Mar-05 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: PARK19.SECURESERVER.NET PARK20.SECURESERVER.NET Registry Status: ACTIVE

[bobby1]

Let's see, if a million people sign up that's 25 million he has to put out before he makes a dime and that's not counting referral payouts. Not an unreasonable amount to sign up, especially since I've read the website has had 50 million hits in 3 days. (yeah right)

So lets assume he's going to beat Paypal's rate, let's go with 2%. That's $1,250,000,000 (read > 1.25 BILLION)in payments that have to go through just to break even. We'll call interest earned and expenses a wash for now.


Who is he? We don't know, because the owner of the site has gone out of thier way and paid extra money to be invisible...

http://tinyurl.com/6txhb

They are hiding behind Domains By Proxy which you have to pay for, so its deliberate.

Maybe his name is Ponzi?

[gobro]

No worries!

I have all the info on the chaps behind this.
I have done one heck of a lot of investigation on this one !!
I signed up initially as this looked awesome and plausible, but then I got to thinking about it all. Some things just didnt add up, so thats why I decided to check it all out. Yes I found the owner of the domain. Yes I have the lowdown on him. Yes I have the lowdown on the so called president also. This is all very fascinating & in some ways very amusing. I have refered 5 people already but I have stopped promoting after finding this info.

I believe that many entreprenuers have many knocks & many trys before hitting the right combo & Greenzap is a wonderful business BUT only if it is backed by the TRUTH! And that is to say not sneaky conmen who lie & cheat to scam people from their money. This is what I still need too find out.... 1. Where is there financial backing coming from? 2. Is the President really a successful financial markets investor.. provide the truth. I will call the Domain owner D.W in the next few days to find out a little more before publishing all the details of findings here! Gotta give the guy benefit of the doubt for now that this is all gonna be legit therefore I will not publish scandalous lies, rumour, hearsay or assumptions & never will. The Truth will always prevail! WATCH THIS SPACE

[mysticalmaze]

Man,

Wonder why its taking so long to get their site back up. Afterall, it only
takes like 24-48 hrs for a domain to propogate to the new SHARED HOST'S
dns right! :rolleyes:

Robert

[Nick Hetcher]

Hi All,

HERE'S A "PRO" GREENZAP COMMENT...

With all the hype and Internet scams, I can see why people these days run when they see almost "any" opportunity that comes along.

It seems that the bigger the potential, the greater the degree of skepticism. And also, all the more people taking pot-shots, many in ignorance and without having any facts what-so-ever.

To come to the defense of GreenZap, everyone...please hold your comments until you have the facts first. To make outlandish comments such as "this is a scam," without any (or much)information and evidence is ridiculous and those naive enough to run along with this slander
may be missing a great opportunity.

GreenZap has the deep pocket financial backing, management and ingenious business concept to "go the distance" with the likes of "any" of the big boys.

The web site as you see it today (4/6/05) is for pre registration. They did not expect over 5 million hits their first 3 days after just sharing the concept with about 40 or 50 people.

They have had to order high *****ed servers to accommodate this issue so people can actually get to the web site by Monday or Tuesday at the latest. You can't even get on it now. And no, they don't have some malicious code spying on people.

Do you believe everything you hear or read in print? Because it's in print, people tend to believe it's true. Weigh the evidence and site actual PROOF, before making such comments, please.

The GreenZap concept and planning has been *****ing for several months. June 1st will be the unveiling of what could be the next giant Internet business.

Rather than go into it too much more, be watching for weekly press releases and the GreenZap newsletter. They will spell out things people are asking such as:
1) How can they do this?
2) Why are they doing this?
3) Won't they run out of money?
4) Who are the corporate people involved?
5) Who is backing this financially?
6) Why are they using DomainsbyProxy?
7) What is their true business model?
8) Why are they better than Paypal?
9) How can I get involved?

And Much much more. The have hired a professional ad agency and public relations company. They have more than enough investors to fund this and know the value of a "loyal" member to their community. They want to make the GreenZap community fun and rewarding. A simple plan.

Offering $25 to open a free account is an inexpensive way to add a new member to their growing community. Offering rewards like this and for referring new members to GreenZap is the way they have chosen to build the community. They'll even be rewarding up to $30 for people we refer and they refer and they refer, etc.

This is your community, if you choose to embrace it. There are some really cool things on the drawing board. Give them a chance before you tear them apart. Remember the golden rule before opening your mouth too far.

Hey, they are not asking for ANYTHING right now (ok, your email address). Hey, if your email is that important to you then don't join the community. This is a free world.

If you think spammers can't get any email they want from 20 other "harvesting" methods, you're grossly misinformed. GreenZap is willing to GIVE us $25 for joining their community of online spenders and senders.

They will also offer a secured credit card, you'll be able to "zap some green" to friends for only $1 per transaction...no matter how big it is. They don't need to charge more like the competition and they still make good money. They know what they are doing. Give them a chance to prove themselves.

They are NOT building a large email list to sell spammers. Spammers already have all the lists they need and when they need a new one, they know where to go to get it or they generate their own.

There is a LOT more money in "this" GreenZap business plan than some penny-anti email scam. Give me a break. Come on folks, think this thru a little, don't put every "deal" that comes along in the same SCAM category.

Many companies are legit and really do have people of integrity behind them that want to see a better world. GreenZap is one of them.

Yes, you may need to see the proof first. So, you can be one of the folks who sits back and watches things happen and later wish you had joined and referred friends.

Paypal started with a few people and now has over 68 MILLION. GreenZap will be much better than Paypal...much less expensive per transaction and by rewarding us MUCH more.

Or, you can join somebody's invitation to join GreenZap.com for Free and receive your $25 on June 1st. It's not like they're asking for your first born child, or $50,000 or even $1,000.

They want to pay YOU to join their community and refer others, rather than pay the television, radio and print media. And the biggest portion of what they pay us is "after" people we refer upgrade to a credit card. Much more effective than paying the TV, radio and print media "before" anything happens (and may never happen). HELLO.

By the way. This is simply a "Rewards" system. This is NOT MLM (network marketing) by an stretch. There is no recruiting, no residual commissions and no over-priced products to sell.

This is FREE. Nobody gets hurt.

In fact, we're not selling anything. We're getting a reward for joining a community...for FREE, just like the banks pay people. GreenZap is not twisting any arms.

I'm a member of GreenZap (obviously) and not a corporate employee. The reason I wrote this lengthy essay (lol) is because I'm tired of all the negativity in this world. I'm tired of people attacking anybody and anything they feel like.

I see a company that wants to do good for people and has amazing things planned (ok, I do have a "little" inside information) and then I see people lashing out at them, with NO information. This is so sad.

I understand people have been burned. That will never stop. So who gives us the license to then go out and trash-talk any new idea, opportunity or concept that we feel like that day?

You may say, "Free Speech Nick. I just want to inform people of potential scams out there."

Good intentions but PLEASE, get your facts straight...first. To so otherwise is only bending the golden rule to fit out own needs or egos.

If after reading this you want more information, then be on the lookout for the press releases and news letters. I do not have, and will not take the time to spend on naysayer. When it comes to business, I like to work with "like-minded" positive thinking people. Life is too short.

If you want to JOIN the GreenZap community and "possibly" reap some rewards ("potentially" great rewards, but certainly not guaranteed)...then join me. My promo code is under my name.

Thanks for reading.

Respectfully,

Nick Hetcher :D
Go to: www.GreenZap.com. Then type in the word: PM Nick Hetcher for this word, it's a referral. Note: You can't sign up for GreenZap without a referral. as the promo code. Then you'll get your own promo code and can offer others "worldwide" $25 to join. And, the $25 comes from GreenZap, not us). You'll get $5 when they join (all on June 1st) with the potential to make much more.

P.S. I "personally" believe that GreenZap will be the next MONSTER company. (I could be wrong). The greatest opportunity is NOW, however, if you choose to sit on the sidelines, that's ok. But don't cry later that you were not informed in the very first days.

[viralmarketing]

:mad:

So you only have to give your email address to pre-register?
OK, but I assume that to get the $25.00 you will need to hand over your bank details along with other personal info?
You have got to be kidding.

And what's to stop a million people joining just to grab the $25.00?
That would cost Greenzap $25M

Sorry, but it smells fishy to me.

As for the slander you mention I have come to believe that there is no smoke without fire.

Too many negatives so far and no positives.

Hi Nick I am not a negative person,but who is backing them? People can get burnt,if they are inept like paypal can be,funds do not come out.I am not apaypal fan. MO INFO CHEERS BU2U.NET

[viralmarketing]

Message to GoBro.
I know who you mean by D.W.
How did you get this info?
I have had dealings with D.W. in the past and his buddy J.R.
Please share what info you have.

[mysticalmaze]

Hey Nick,

The url you posted is a dead link! :rolleyes:

There has been no slander. One thing though- for you to come in here
with all this copy paste stuff, then add your ref name, should get your
post deleted, or at least edited.

Cheap method of promoting. Well I guess I'll go in there and support
this site, and post my referral name, and just maybe the search engines
will bring me some residual traffic. :mad:

So who are they? I highly doubt you even know...

This is the typical hype of a get rich quick scheme, so lets just see what
happens. You don't need a *****ful server just for a lead capture page.
Lets get real here!

If you think spammers can't get any email they want from 20 other "harvesting" methods, you're grossly misinformed

This wouldn't be harvesting. If you think about it, these would in fact
be "LEADS" all signing up to a marketing opportunity with return email
addresses, and most likely even IP addresses. These could be easily
sold for up to $5 a piece, as they are all HOT Leads...

This company as professional as you make them out to be, didn't even
bother to include a "privacy" policy. So, basically they can do whatever
they want with your contact info without recourse.

Robert

[viralmarketing]

I see the site is up again so lets take a look and compare it with Paypal.


1) Paypal Uses Secure Server - Greenzap Does Not
2) Paypal Has Privacy Policy - Greenzap Does Not
3) We All Know Who Owns Paypal - Who Owns Greenzap?
I see Michael Bernstein mentioned, Who is He?
4) Who are the board members? I assume they have one?
5) Where are the T.O.S.?

I could go on and on but I think I have made my point.

And there is no slander in this message, just questions that need to be answered.
Particularly if we are to believe that Greenzap is going to seriously rival the mighty Paypal.
Zap green, get green zapped to you?
Are these terms used by financial experts?

[mysticalmaze]

Theres so much missing, that I can't wait to see them say in their account area,
that you need to earn $500 min. in referral earnings to cash out.

[viralmarketing]

There is a rumour circulating that Greenzap is owned by Damon Westmoreland.
I have been unable to confirm this so far but if there is a connection my advice would be to run for the hills.

I have had personal experiences with this guy which cost me dearly.

[Nick Hetcher]

Robert,
Great questions above and you are wise to ask them. Let's keep in mind however, that the GreenZap web site is only for "pre" registration and has only been up for literally 5 days now.

Your concerns will all be addressed in the coming days and weeks, far before their official launch in early summer of 2005. As stated before they are also doing weekly press releases (first went out this past week and you can find on Yahoo, Businesswire, MarketWatch, Hoovers and at the GZ web site-- PM Nick Hetcher for this link, it's a referral. Note: You can't sign up for GreenZap without a referral.

They just did not expect this kind of response as it's "not" an mlm but a few like minded people with "contacts" to the same got a hold of it and ran to their friends who ran to their friends, etc. You know how fast the Internet can spread stuff. I was told that GZ got over 5 million hits it's first 72 hours, all from about 40 to 50 people on an initial conference call. Not the usual and not expected to create such a stir so fast.

People did not expect GZ to come back up online again (per comments in posts I've read) and it did. They want to sling mud and they will continue to do so. That kind of stuff will never stop and it's no wonder with all the "real" scams that have come along.

From what I have seen and heard so far (I'm in daily contact with the president Alex Sonkin, as one several of GZ's field liaisons) I believe we will see a valid and strong competitor to paypal. That's a good thing. It will take time to *****e as with any and every business. Give them some time to prove themselves.

Until then, my advice is to watch and see what happens, or, grab a free account now (use a yahoo or hotmail address if you want to keep your personal addy private) and get ready to tell your friends "after" GZ starts to reward their members, or...grab a free account and start telling all your friends now and position yourself for the "Future of Money" (to quote GZ).

Folks...this is FREE.

Think about it, what are you REALLY giving up that can't be found easily in other places? I think sometimes we put FAR too much value on our email addresses.

These guys have studied this "online spending and sending" stuff very closely and know the high value of a loyal member to an online community. Paying out the $25 to open an account is "ad budget" money that will come back to them many, many, many times over again. They know what they are doing.

Let's let "time" be the proof. I may be wrong, and I certainly have been many, amny, many (lol) times before...but from all I have seen and know, I think GreenZap will pull this thing off and may potentially become one of the biggest businesses in recent history. I guess for some, it's "wait and see."

Nick Hetcher

[Nick Hetcher]

First Press Release from GreenZap



GreenZap Launches Site with Pre-Registration Phase
Monday April 11, 8:22 pm ET


LA JOLLA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 11, 2005--GreenZap.com, a consumer-based online buying and spending account service, launched its site this week with a pre-registration phase. GreenZap, the new dot com-er on the block, aims to compete directly with big dog "PayPal®," eBay's® online payment processor.

A GreenZap spokesperson said, "The GreenZap brand is fresh and fun and gives consumers a viable, low-cost choice for sending and receiving money online." GreenZap anticipates capturing a large percentage of the existing online spending community, but sees its brand and messaging appealing to a new generation of online spenders who simply want to use their account for "fun" spending.

GreenZap members can send money to anyone around the world as long as they have an email address. Members can spend money purchasing goods and services from other GreenZap members or from other popular sites, including eBay® and Yahoo® Auctions. Members can load money to their GreenZap account for spending or earn money by telling others about GreenZap.

During the pre-registration phase, GreenZap is rewarding consumers with $25 in their account for signing up. The account is free and there are no set-up charges. GreenZap will be launching early this summer.

For more information, please visit http://www.GreenZap.biz <--(I put my link in this).

[viralmarketing]

Nick,
Are you the same Nick Hetcher that advised me to join Travelogia a few months ago?
If so I am happy to say I did not take your advice.

As you are in daily contact with Alex Sonkin can you please tell us who are the board of GZ and who are the backers?
I see no reason why this information should be secret unless they have something to hide.

[MartinCafu]

Complete clowns:

1) they r taking on PP trying to compete with them. Yet to register your domain they go to GoDaddy.com and hide behind a proxy?

2) they choose the cheapest registration for their domain on GoDaddy.com saving 20-30 bucks, yet they r so generous giving 25 bucks to anyone who registers with them?

Domain registered at GoDaddy.com hiding behind a proxy. ALL contact details are PRIVATE. Wud u trust your CC details to such a site?

WHOIS Search Results for: GREENZAP.COM

Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GREENZAP.COM Created on: 09-Jan-05 Expires on: 09-Jan-11 Last Updated on: 02-Mar-05 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration GREENZAP.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains by Proxy, Inc. DomainsByProxy.com 15511 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: PARK19.SECURESERVER.NET PARK20.SECURESERVER.NET Registry Status: ACTIVE

I may be wrong but NORMALLY such generosity smells of ONLY one thing - FRAUD.

I will PUBLICLY apologise to everyone here if I hear confirmations from THREE different ppl that they DID actually receive those 25 dollar cheques in the post, those cheques CLEARED and those ppl did not find their bank accounts CLEARED OUT right after that.

[Monopolized]

So you can use GZ on e-bay can you? - according to the website.

This may be a stupid question but why would e-bay accept anything other than PayPal? Or am I missing something here?

Just a thought, but does anyone else remember JUICEBOOSTED?

[fairplay]

Press releases gives a Hope!
Sign up - Stay safe still they get establshed... That's it.

Hi friends,
Why useless Investigation now, when they are not asking a dollor out of your pocket.Ofcourse everyone who has signed up has a doubt, whether they will deposit $25 dollars into their account.

But what about these press releases in
Yahoo Finance, business wire, market watch, Hoovers
(can find links to these press release in press/news page of greenzap.)

Do these big online business Magazines publish fake news. there we get some hope.

For those who would like to give a try, here is link to pre register.
fill promo code as greenzapfree and press go in pre register page.



But to keep safe, even after June 1, restrain from depositing any money in this account or sending any money through this account, till they get establihed online.

I hope by that time everything will come to light.

If they keep up their promise, then everyone who has signed up must have hit a fortune.... If they are false.... What is that we are going to let loose?

Since it is free account and as they dont ask any money NOW from us, I personally feel there is no harm in signing up, remember JUST SIGNUP and NO OTHER TRANSACTIONS, till they get well established. If if they are really a Pay pal competitor, then we may be fortunate.

Regards,
Fairplay

P.S: For those who would like to give a try, here is link to pre register.

fill promo code as greenzapfree and press go in pre register page.

[dumbexperts.com]

The lies and propagande started already. it's the usaul MLM pie in the sky ploys to get you to join. I'll give it 6 months to a few years before I consider joining. It has a good chance that it will fizzle.

Dumbexperts

[MartinCafu]

There is a very easy way for GreenZap to prove to EVERYONE that they are legit. They started a new business and obviously intend to pay taxes, right? What is the Tax Identification number for their company, so everyone can check the details? GreenZap, PLS do not hide behind privacy, as Company's Tax Identification number HAS to be public information for the customers of that Company.

many thx in advance :) let us see what they say :)

[viralmarketing]

ROTFL Ha HA Ha
They operate from a grocery store in La Jolla ROTFL HA HA HA
Tax Id?
ROTFLMAO
The owner is Damon Westmoreland, Public Enemy No 1

:rolleyes: Ok I am not the brightest light bulb on the Las Vegas Strip CALL ME GULLIABLE and too trusting of friends BUT it seems to me that the way this will work (or not) is when you register for your free account and pre registration reward of $25.00 and the *****s that be on June 1st "SAY" that there is $25.00 in your account maybe there is ... maybe there isn't?

I will BET my botom last dollar that they ( the *****s that be Damon, Alex, Michael, whoever) will tell you that IF you want your BONUS referral money then you have to deposit $100.00 into your account or UPGRADE your membership to a " GOLD" acount or something to that effect. Or apply for a Greenzap credit card.

Then most likely you will be giving them your bank routing and account number ( scary thought giving that to someone who is hiding behind a proxy or operating out of a RALPH'S supermarket po box!)
Scarier yet is the thought of giving them your social security number YIKES!

Ok so here is the sceniaro, lets say 1 MILLION people sign up and maybe only 10% of them are STUPID enough to deposit money into a "GOLD" account, $100.00 TIMES 100,000 people is ???? TEN MILLION well some of that will pay the $5.00 referral fees to some of the people, or to yourself.
In effect the $25.00 most likely was never there, it is YOUR OWN MONEY they are giving back to you as is the $5.00 per referral money yours too, well it may be OPM ( other peoples money) combined with yours.

It is the law of diminishing returns and the bottom falls out quickly,
BUT the *****s that be will get away with 45%-50% of the $10,000,000.00, before they pull the plug and maybe more if they clear out the checking accounts and credit card information everyone so eagerly gave them access to.
So Damon, Mike, Alex and whoever else takes the $50,000.000.00 and heads off to the CAYMAN ISLANDS to live like kings and queens happy ever after.
VERY SCARY SCENAIRO BUT IT COULD HAPPEN, AS IT HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
SO IF YOU HAVE BEEN ZAPPED THEN YOU BETTER RETHINK THIS PROGRAM.
UNTIL SOMEONE CAN PROVE ME WRONG I AM GOING TO INFORM EVERYONE TO _AT LEAST_ ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION.
How's that for a dim wit?

[ponchito]

Asked if Damon Westmoreland punk got somethin' to do with Greenzap via email on there contact link -- those punks no replied.

THAT STINKS, PUNK! :mad:

got this just now:

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Regulators take action against Caruba International

Abstract: February 28, 2001. The latest Pyramid scheme run by 28-year-old Damon Westmoreland, called Caruba International, seems to be headed the way of his last, which was shut down by regulators in the United States.Caruba International, which claims to be operated "entirely in Aruba" but appears to be run from Flo

[mysticalmaze]

Hey,

I would ask, that the new moderators of this forum begin to remove the
affiliate urls and or any reference to a affiliate user id name.

Afterall, is this a true forum for scams, or is this a place for scammers to get
their links branded?

I see it all over this forum. They post their affiliate urls, etc.. in all discussions. They can get search engine listings, by continuing to post
their copy & pasted auto-responder messages they receive from these
programs in question.

Actually, this may be the true intention of this forum's existence. :mad:

Robert

[viralmarketing]

I have never seen a company get so much bad publicity before they have even officially launched.
Just go to any search engine and type in greenzap scam and read the negative reports on many forums.
Can so many people be wrong?

[bobby1]

Here's some very interesting reading....

http://www.freeauctionscripts.com/co...839.html#90531

Enjoy.

[jason911]

Ken, are you the same Ken that lives in New Addington?

Jason

[bugmenot]

if you want to help defeat greenzap, just go to the site and fill out fake information that looks real.

[mcharles]

I was gullible/naive enough to just sign up without checking this out first. Now I'm worried that I've made a mistake. Anyone have any suggestions for protecting myself from possible (and seemingly likely?) fraud?

[viralmarketing]

It's practically impossible these days to tell a fraud from the real thing.
I treat everything with suspicion and always do a thorough check on anything that's recommended to me but even then it's a risk.

I announced my retirement from the internet a couple of weeks ago to my subscribers. I have done very well from the internet in the past few years.
So much so that I have moved into property development and spend most of my time these days in Spain where I bought a home two years ago.
Personally, I think the internet has had its day, unless you are selling a product that people need.
I will continue to sell products on Ebay but that's all.

Getting back to the subject in hand Green Zap officially announced today
that Alex Sonkin is the President.
They have set up a forum here:
http://www.greenzapcommunity.com/forumz/

[viralmarketing]

Greenzap Press Release

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/050419/196288.html?.v=1

[Numbers]

So I checked your Press Release. I also checked into the company called Strategic Business Development (SBD), Inc. After reading this artical below, see what I found out about this company on the NY Stock Exchange

Source: GreenZap, Inc.

GreenZap Names Alexander Sonkin as President
Tuesday April 19, 10:17 pm ET


LA JOLLA, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 19, 2005--GreenZap, Inc., a consumer-based online buying and spending account service, is pleased to announce Alexander Sonkin as President. Mr. Sonkin will report directly to GreenZap's Board of Directors.
Prior to joining GreenZap, Mr. Sonkin was CEO of Strategic Business Development (SBD), Inc., an international marketing and consulting company that specializes in the financial industry. Alex brings with him to GreenZap his right-hand man and former SBD COO, Michael Bernstein. Michael will serve as GreenZap's COO. Mr. Sonkin and Mr. Bernstein are accredited with growing SBD into a multimillion dollar company with over 45 directors servicing hundreds of clients worldwide.

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[ponchito]

Self-published press release don't mean nothin' to me. They can says what they want to make theirself look good. :mad:

[mysticalmaze]

Hey,

Not their forum!

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NS2.FRIENDLY-WEB-DESIGN.COM
Registry Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

[M65]

The Greenzap community forum http://www.gzcommunity.com/ has been shut down for "security reasons". Damon Westmoreland had promised to post a detailed explanation for all of the many allegations against him in that forum today.

[madmike]

Yeah Right, One Lie After Another.
This is the first program to die before it even started.

Nobody ever heard of Alex Sonkin which is surprising considering his glowing references.

Michael Bernstein is a two bit hustler.

As for Demon Westmoreland, I don't think he realised how much evidence existed regarding his former "Projects".

Damon, I think you might have hung yourself this time.

[M65]

There is going to be an internet radio interview with Sonkin on E-Auction Air. http://www.eauctionair.com/ The interviewer does confront him about DW and other issues regarding GZ.

[calandria]

Stratigic Business Development's website

http://www.sbdgroup.net/index.html

[calandria]

Whois on SBD


Registrant:
Strategic Business Development (MB558-AWR) mikeb@sbdgroup.net
101 West 55th St
New York, NY 10019
US
Ph: +1.2125551234 FAX:

Domain Name: sbdgroup.net

Administrative Contact:
Bernstein, Michael (MB559-AWR) mikeb@sbdgroup.net
101 West 55th St
New York, NY 10019
US
Ph: +1.2125551234 FAX:
Technical Contact:
Bernstein, Michael (MB561-AWR) mikeb@sbdgroup.net
101 West 55th St
New York, NY 10019
US
Ph: +1.2125551234 FAX:
Billing Contact:
Bernstein, Michael (MB560-AWR) mikeb@sbdgroup.net
101 West 55th St
New York, NY 10019
US
Ph: +1.2125551234 FAX:

Record last updated on Sat Feb 12 2005.
Record created on Thu Nov 20 2003.
Record expires on Sun Nov 20 2005.

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[MartinCafu]

Originally Posted by Numbers

..... Alexander Sonkin as President. ....Alex brings with him to GreenZap his right-hand man and former SBD COO, Michael Bernstein. Michael will serve as GreenZap's COO......

Nothing against the Ruskies, but it looks like this site is an all-Russian job :)

[Brian Gross]

I just heard that the former Executive Vice President of Cisco (http://www.cisco.com) is on GreenZap's advisory board.

That's Great News! :) :) :)

[putty_tat007]

No don't worry if you signed up with them I did and I know I didn't give any important information. Sad how some try to live off the honesty of other's. If this is true and it seems it is I hope they burn in hell. I so wanted to get away for PayPal and now it seems I'm stuck with them.

[putty_tat007]

What is cisco and why is it a good thing or are you just pulling our leg?

[Brian Gross]

You've never heard of Cisco?

[ZapToday]

We were just discussing this actually on the new forums that are opening up over at ZapToday. There are several high-name people on the GZ Board, and GZ also has some serious financial backing by some high profiles banks.

www.zaptoday.com/community/ are the new boards that are launching. they will be announced publicly on Monday, but a few people have found them already, and began to post.

If i can help to clear up any of the misleading facts about greenzap, I'll be glad to help.

Happy Zapping,

Jason Steen | ZapToday.com - Your Daily Dose of GreenZap !
jsteen@zaptoday.com

[Jafo]

Originally Posted by Brian Gross

I just heard that the former Executive Vice President of Cisco (http://www.cisco.com) is on GreenZap's advisory board.

That's Great News! :) :) :)

Who is this Brian Gross/Alex guy that is spamming all the boards with this?

I've seen this identical post on at least 4 completely different boards, all placed withinin the last few hours.

Quoted from Jason/Zap's board:

I've spoken with Alex, Damon, Michael, and others, and all of the questions I had have been answered.

I can assure you though, that this WILL happen. and i can tell you that Mastercard will be used domestically for the Greenzap debit cards, and Visa will be used internationally. I will echo this to the *****s that be over the weekend, and these boards are acutally "made public" on monday, so there will be huge amounts of traffic here then. Michael and Damon actually view the boards more than would think too, as well as the PR Firm. so they see what is going on.

Jason/Zap, your name is rapidly becoming synonymous with this gang of scammers. That is definitely NOT a good thing. One has to wonder if you aren't Damon going by another name.

It does appear however that you ARE directly involved in this and are not the innocent bystander you claim to be.

Yet, like the others, you continually refuse to answer a single direct question, always defaulting to the company line; "We are Great!"


Not buying it pal......

[Jafo]

And why did your other crony Rommy shut his entire site down?

Did the truth get too hot?


.

[putty_tat007]

Well Brian Gross , the only cisco I have ever heard about is the Cisco kid hahahaa what can I say they don't let me out mucho.

[madmike]

The former EVP?

Does he have a name or is this a secret too?