Any body heard of World Profit ?

[cinvest]

Don't know if any of you heard of World Profit or not, but I just had a bad experience with this company and just want to warn anybody if they ever decide to join this program.

What they basically are trying to do is sell you the Silver package. Which consiste of a website, domain name, and 25 prospects, with 500 email leads.
It sounded good until you realize that you are supposed to call the 25 prospects and get them to buy the Silver package as well.

Not to mention the Silver package costs $1,199.40. They made it easy for you to own it by allowing you to pay that amount over 12 months period.
However, if you decide this program is not for you and want to get out of it, this is what you will find in your inbox:
__________________________________________________ ______________
this letter serves as written notice of legal proceedings against you for NON Payment of your LOAN from Worldprofit, Inc.

According to our files you financed the full cost for your package of $1,199.40 over 12 monthly payments of $99.95. We show that you have made 3 payments which leaves a balance due on your account of $899.55.

Our cancellation policy allows you to terminate the financing on the total loan abount above for 30% of that total NOT including ANY previous payments. Therefore, you may cancel upon payment of $359.82.

The deadline to pay either your monthly payment or the cancellation fee is the end of business on: Thursday August 31, 2006

To make a payment by credit card or using PayPal and STOP legal proceedings:
__________________________________________________ _______________

You notice that in order to get out you will have to pay additional charge of $359.82. In other words you can't leave if you don't pay or you will get sued.

They sent that notice to me after I informed them that I wanted out of the program. But because I didn't have $359.92 I allowed them to charge my credit card $99.95 monthly fee without protest. However, the next month they are back again threatening to sue me. I had assumed that they were just going to go ahead and charge me monthly so I was pretty shocked to see that email again in my inbox. So this is what you will encounter if you join and want out of the program later.

The truth is this program really doesn't offer anything but the silver package.
The silver package all it is is another way for you to sell that package to someone else, Besides that there is really no value in it.

You are required to call all your 25 prospects about attending Dr Lants webcast. The webcast function is just to sell the Silver package. But if none of your 25 prospects converted, then you have to buy more prospects from their system. The newsletter function the same way, it encourages people to attend the webcast and then buy the silver package.

I basically got tired of calling these people and have none but one of them show at the webcast and no one purchased the package. After three months of chasing these people I just got tired of doing the same old thing and have nothing to show for it.

But that's when I find out that when you decide to leave and not pay, Boy did they sink their teeth at me then.

So be warned, unless you are great at selling the $1,199.40 silver package, you best stay away from this program. Because you will end up paying $1,199.40 plus interest or if paying monthly 30% of the balance.

So take my experience and hope you don't repeat it,

Too sorry, too late.

[borisf96]

Originally Posted by cinvest

What they basically are trying to do is sell you the Silver package. Which consiste of a website, domain name, and 25 prospects, with 500 email leads.
It sounded good until you realize that you are supposed to call the 25 prospects and get them to buy the Silver package as well.

It is MLM. What did you expect? In any case, I personally would not pay in your position. By the time collection agency would get anxious, World Profit will be history. Just in case PM to board moderators, they know a lot more stuff than I do.

Immidiate cation. If you are paying with credit card, immidiately cancel it. If you are paying from checking account, change bank. Also register your complain with BBB. If BBB thing does not resolve, place a call to your state's Attorney General and post your complain that you were scammed. Do not make it too easy for them to get your money.

[cinvest]

Boris,

Just wondering if I get into trouble if I don't pay ? I don't want any trouble, but I do want to get out of this obligation. Who did you say I can contact ?

[borisf96]

You may go to www.bbbonline.org is first to register a complain there. But I bet they are not members of BBB.

Visit your local Attorney General office. Tell them that World Profits misrepresented their "opportunity". They may give you useful advise. In any case you will get World Profits name into legal system.

You should threaten them with lawsuit. They know that they are doing bad business. And no scam artist wants to stop reaping rewards from new sign-ups when it is hot. I also read on this board that this tactic works very well.

I know it is easy for me to give you advice when I am not involved. They may hurt your credit ratings if they decide to go to collection agency. They just may go that route just of spite. Even if they know that they will not be in business for long. But if you do not care about credit rating, what can they do to you, if you prevent them from collecting your money? Legal Proceeding? Thats a joke.

And the most important. PM to scambuster and sopboxmom. They are most experienced with MLMs on this site. Get more than one opinion.

[world_profit_scam]

Originally Posted by cinvest

Boris,

Just wondering if I get into trouble if I don't pay ? I don't want any trouble, but I do want to get out of this obligation. Who did you say I can contact ?

World Profit is not a legal business opportunity, as defined by the ponzi schemes and many other defunkt, business models, they have no product to sell, you just resell the existing product, which is website services.

Any program that does not have a legal product is nothing more than a scheme to take your money away, do not fear these idiots.

Do not pay them one more dime, If you are in your first 30 days ask for a refund, The person that claims to be a milionaire has a very poor credit record, the entire site is BULL!

[newguy249]

If they're not in BBB, then what's this?

http://hurdman.edmontonbbb.org/commo...526&language=1

[TheWealthGenerator]

Actually, YES I have heard of Worldprofit and they have made me ALOT of money since I started January 30, 2007. I have done Internet based businesses for years and have spent endless hours and money with ZERO return. Obviously the individual that has a problem with Worldprofit did not work the program the way it is supposed to be done. There is no such thing "INSTANT GRATIFICATION" in business....you need to work your business no matter what it is in order to see great, profitable results....My hat is off to Worldprofit and their AWESOME cutting edge technology that NO ONE on the internet has. See for yourself....you will be AMAZED

[world_profit_scam]

Hello,

I investigated the world profit model and was disappointed that the sales mechanism, seems to be biased toward the operator not the client and it really should be a client model.

The marketing strategy has some glaring inconsistencies, that frankly are offensive.

I imagine that you are making some money however at what cost.

Every single average, individual that I interviewed lost money when investing in this service, the true secret to building wealth online is in longevity not short term profits, successful business owners have known this for some time now.

People are hungry for a real opportunity and so will invest in something that sounds good.

The sad part is that most people cannot profit from the service offered by world profit and this is simply because the business model used is a proven failure, both by statistics and by the numbers, actuarially, (an accounting term) the structure benefits the Doc not the client.

I even Interviewed the good doctor, who responded more like a child than an adult and while I could publish his email to me, I find that I would be embarrassed (for the Doc)
to reveal such a poor child like response to legitimate questions.

It takes a real man or women to be able to hear the truth and respond as an adult, even if you dont really like what someone has to say.

The main reason why I took the time to write you is, that even if you are making money with this, the people who fail and the percentage is very high in this opportunity, will remember who recommended the opportunity and never trust you again.

This is a dangerous method of making money because it always ends the same, eventually what will happen is that you will find it more and more difficult to achieve sales in any program that you promote, because people talk and once the word spreads and it will, you can count on human behavior in that regard, you will find that your reputation is really the most valuable piece of property you can own in this Internet world.

I believe that it is important to stand against these type of failure driven opportunities simply because we know the truth and we owe it to the new people who fall for this type of marketing to warn them, morally we have a duty to expose this type of evil where ever it is.

You can talk about how long the Doc has been in business, (which proves nothing more than a lack of a conscious,) and how much money has been made, but show me even one hundred, people who have become wealthy in the last year.

Ok cant do that, well then how about ten, ( 10 ) people in the last 30 days that have built wealth, you cant do that either.

I know it is easy to buy into these type of business models and it is even easier to convince yourself you are doing good, but really you are hurting good people by supporting this company.

Originally Posted by TheWealthGenerator

Actually, YES I have heard of Worldprofit and they have made me ALOT of money since I started January 30, 2007. I have done Internet based businesses for years and have spent endless hours and money with ZERO return. Obviously the individual that has a problem with Worldprofit did not work the program the way it is supposed to be done. There is no such thing "INSTANT GRATIFICATION" in business....you need to work your business no matter what it is in order to see great, profitable results....My hat is off to Worldprofit and their AWESOME cutting edge technology that NO ONE on the internet has. See for yourself....you will be AMAZED wwww.thewealthgenerators.com

[StopTheFraud]

I am so happy that this tread is in existence and hope that many people find their way here prior to giving this company a credit card number. I am bumping the first post, written by cinvest, because I truly believe this will be the scenario that plays out for the majority of the people who decide to take a chance with World Profit.

I notice some positive feedback on this thread as well. All I can say about that is that feedback is probably being posted by individuals who are trying to find a way to recoop monies paid out for the program or it is being posted by someone within the corporation itself. I can almost guarantee that positive feedback will not be coming from the average person who has purchased their Silver Package.

I suppose money can be made with this company, but it would be extremely difficult. Unless you are an expert already, I would stay away.

I am heartbroken to think of how many people are going to lose their hard-earned money to these people.

Just sit in the live business center for a bit and get a real feel of how the monitors treat people. If you aren't ready to plop your money down without an argument, they don't want to have anything to do with you. They certainly don't want to answer any questions -- it is a no-no to ask -- you must first give them money. Prospects are ridiculed all day for simply asking questions. If you do buy the Silver or Platinum package, this live business center is a big portion of what you will be trying to sell to your own prospects. It is not impressive at all.

Sorry this was so long, but I am furious with these people, and if my post can save just one widow, retiree, or any other struggling individual from losing their money, it will have been worth it.

Originally Posted by cinvest

Don't know if any of you heard of World Profit or not, but I just had a bad experience with this company and just want to warn anybody if they ever decide to join this program.

What they basically are trying to do is sell you the Silver package. Which consiste of a website, domain name, and 25 prospects, with 500 email leads.
It sounded good until you realize that you are supposed to call the 25 prospects and get them to buy the Silver package as well.

Not to mention the Silver package costs $1,199.40. They made it easy for you to own it by allowing you to pay that amount over 12 months period.
However, if you decide this program is not for you and want to get out of it, this is what you will find in your inbox:
__________________________________________________ ______________
this letter serves as written notice of legal proceedings against you for NON Payment of your LOAN from Worldprofit, Inc.

According to our files you financed the full cost for your package of $1,199.40 over 12 monthly payments of $99.95. We show that you have made 3 payments which leaves a balance due on your account of $899.55.

Our cancellation policy allows you to terminate the financing on the total loan abount above for 30% of that total NOT including ANY previous payments. Therefore, you may cancel upon payment of $359.82.

The deadline to pay either your monthly payment or the cancellation fee is the end of business on: Thursday August 31, 2006

To make a payment by credit card or using PayPal and STOP legal proceedings:
__________________________________________________ _______________

You notice that in order to get out you will have to pay additional charge of $359.82. In other words you can't leave if you don't pay or you will get sued.

They sent that notice to me after I informed them that I wanted out of the program. But because I didn't have $359.92 I allowed them to charge my credit card $99.95 monthly fee without protest. However, the next month they are back again threatening to sue me. I had assumed that they were just going to go ahead and charge me monthly so I was pretty shocked to see that email again in my inbox. So this is what you will encounter if you join and want out of the program later.

The truth is this program really doesn't offer anything but the silver package.
The silver package all it is is another way for you to sell that package to someone else, Besides that there is really no value in it.

You are required to call all your 25 prospects about attending Dr Lants webcast. The webcast function is just to sell the Silver package. But if none of your 25 prospects converted, then you have to buy more prospects from their system. The newsletter function the same way, it encourages people to attend the webcast and then buy the silver package.

I basically got tired of calling these people and have none but one of them show at the webcast and no one purchased the package. After three months of chasing these people I just got tired of doing the same old thing and have nothing to show for it.

But that's when I find out that when you decide to leave and not pay, Boy did they sink their teeth at me then.

So be warned, unless you are great at selling the $1,199.40 silver package, you best stay away from this program. Because you will end up paying $1,199.40 plus interest or if paying monthly 30% of the balance.

So take my experience and hope you don't repeat it,

Too sorry, too late.

[StopTheFraud]

Two more interesting views I spotted in another thread on this board. The first one is from July 21, 2005, so the procedures and pricings are not current. The second one is more recent, from
March 17, 2007.

The Rest of the Story ...

Originally Posted by russville

Here is what Worldprofit Advertises for their "Worldprofit Dealership Program PLUS Millionaire Bootcamp FREE"

As a Worldprofit dealer, you earn up to 20% commission referring people and business to Worldprofit for hosting, design, website packages, e-business tools, and webcast services. We take care of all the technical set up and support for your referrals and you collect a commission check. Learn How to Profit as an E-Business Consultant!

Here is the general Site address of the replicated website they provide their dealers:

http://www.worldprofit.com

The startup Cost is $9.95 and here are some of the marketing slogans they use:

"Turn a $10 investment into $100,000 or more."

"100% of our Bootcamp Graduates make money 0n-line"

"We pay you to 20% of our service prices for sales referrals"

"You NEVER have to buy, sell or handle products"

"$1100 in free advertising for six months in the Worldprofit IIWA Malls"


Here is the rest of the story!

Costs To Gradulate the Millionaire Bootcamp:
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Not One Person - I repeat NOT ONE PERSON has graduated the Millionaire Bootcamp by spending only $9.95.

In reality you can make it through the first two levels of the bootcamp which takes about 15 minutes but to progress beyond that you must have their business tools - Prospect Manager and what they call the Ilistserver (Newsletter server). The ONLY way to get these tools is to spend $89.95 per month on what they call their silver package. This is Template designed website that includes 1 "professionally" designed webpage and access to the business tools in your back office.

Additionally In order to graduate the bootcamp you must signup 15 dealers 3 of whom must upgrade. The process of doing this means you will most likely invest in prospects and Newsletter subscribers.

By the time you gradulate you can expect to be spending between $200 and $500 per month for the website, business tools, prospects and newsletter subscribers. Indeeed the top dealer in the company pushes his dealers to purchase 1500 newsletter subscribers twice a month. An investment of over $350.00. Propects that you can call are reasonably priced for pre-called business op seekers and cost about $1.40 each. They are however 7-10 days old by the time you get them.


The Business Tools:
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While the business tools that Worlprofit provides are good you can only bulk load prospects and subscribers into them if you purchase those from Worldprofit. Otherwise you must manually key the names into your newsletter server or prospect manager.

Everone who Graduates The Millionair Bootcamp Makes money on-line:
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By Worldprofit's definition making money is having sales or signups that pay. This DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL BE MAKING A PROFIT. Indeed the commission on three upgrades is about $54.00 per month and this is far less than your normal operatiing expenses will be when you graduate.

The IIWA $1100 Advertisiing Package for Six Months:
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The International Internet Wealth Alliance (IIWA) is an advertising network is owned by Worldprofit. This is part of the "1700 in Real Value" that is advertised in the webcast by Dr Jeffrey Lant in promoting the $9.95 package.

Basically this advertising is a JOKE. yes there are 1,000 of ads but the vast majority are advertising the same thing - all the Dealers websites and the Worldprofit products and services.

In today's market this package is pretty much WORTHLESS

Worldprofit Support:
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While the dealer support is generally good they have some strange policies. For example if a dealer you have signed-up quits or requests a refund of the $9.95 the accounts department is in the habit of just deleting them without notifying you. That means if you have 1000 dealers and all of a sudden you have 999 its up to you to figure out who left and why!!

Millionaire Bootcamp Traning:
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The training you get is simply the mechanics of using the tools they provide. This is repeated over and over twice a week. The real key to getting signups is to use the prospects/leads and call business opportunity seekers. The Millionaire Bootcamp PROVIDES NO TELEMARKETING TRAINING!

The Big Suprise - New Business Sales Quota:
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Worldprofit states

"We pay you to 20% of our service prices for sales referrals"

"Make the Qualifying Sales Volume and any services you've purchased could be free for a year"

The big suprise is that if you don't do $39.95 per month in "New business" you DO NOT GET YOUR COMMISSIONS. This means you must signup at least 4 dealers a month or have dealers upgrade to keep any commissions. Otherwise Worldprofit keeps getting theirs but you DON't GET YOURS.

This is not stated as such on the signup page, the terms on the signup page or the dealer agreement. This is only stated in the FAQ in the dealer area something you don't even have access to until AFTER YOU SIGNUP.

Gettng Booted from the Bootcamp:
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Worldprofit now limits the number of the people in the bootcamp to 250. If you do not progress from level to level at the pace they think you should or you do not go to the classes view the webcasts etc they will "Boot you from the Bootcamp". If you want back in the charge is $599.00.

Suprise Suprise!


Russ

Re: The Rest of the Story .....

Originally Posted by mijacko36

Hello
Verry interesting and true , as i am a Dealer as we are called and im not impressed with the system , we do still have to advertise and make phone calls to get leads to the site so they can surposidly close them for us , i find Dr Land Rude and obnoxious... i pay $99 a month for the silver package for 11 months , after 7 days i wanted a refund , guess what , no such luck , i have to actually pay $390 to get out of it , by the way there isn't any terms and conditions to be found , well maybe its somewhere ( in the fine print ) but i couldnt find it ,
I guess it will work for sum but its not my cup off tea
best off luck
mitch

[ShelbyRedHead]

Yes, i've heard of Worldprofit. I was a custumer until mum died. I've been thiking of looking thme up again toget back with them. It was last year that i was a dealer. The services and training were good but did require my hard work which I wasn't able to do with mum sick. I did make some money and I do recommend the company. I was impressed with them because I read Dr. lant's books back in university and knew that any company he ran would be a good choice. I'm sad to see these negative posts people just don't want to work in a biz opportunity and that is not a reflection on Worldprofit it's a refelction on the lazyness of people in biz ops. I'm going to contact them again, it was a good thing and I want to get back to biz.

[Jeffrey Lant]

I have read this customer's complaint. Here are the facts. The customer in question purchased one of our fine Silver Packages. During the order process the customer is asked to read the Terms and Conditions of Purchase and agree to them. Indeed, NO order can be placed by a customer without explicitly agreeing with the complete Terms and Conditions. One of these conditions is that the customer has the right to cancel at any time upon payment of 30% of the total cost. The customer who wrote this complaint knew those Terms and Conditions; he just didn't want to pay the contractual fee. Hence this posting. Our Silver Packages, which we have been perfecting since 1994, are an excellent way to profit online. We regret this customer didn't provide all the facts, but I trust this brief posting does so. Disgruntled customers are a sad fact of life. We invite you to see for yourself. Go to www.worldprofit.com and come to one of our free presentations. Then make up your own mind. Dr. Jeffrey Lant, Worldprofit CEO since 1994.

[Jim Carpenter]

I'm Jim Carpenter and I've been with Worldprofit since 1998, now in my 10th year. Over the years, I've talked to a lot of people who have failed over and over again. At Worldprofit, the 3 co-founders are dedicated to working with you to helping you become successful. Obviously, you have to do your part.

The main reason why I've been with Worldprofit, as their Top Dealer, I might add, for 9+ years, is because of their honesty, loyalty, superb products and services and daily support. Everything is right there for you to read, videos to watch and we invite you to do it FREE, BEFORE getting involved. At the time of ordering, you MUST accept the agreement. By the way, you MUST accept the agreement BEFORE the order will even go through. PLUS, we are right out there with our names, email addresses, phone numbers, etc. We're there to help you!

But, as with anything in life, you are going to have those who do not follow the system and then blame the company. This is very upsetting to those of us who do work hard to make a successful business and who want to help others do the same.

I just want to go on record and say that I am proud to be a Dealer with Worldprofit and that I highly encourage anyone to come to www.mywebsite.com and sign up as a FREE Associate and come to a FREE LIVE webcast with Dr. Jeffrey Lant, Worldprofit CEO, and decide for yourself.

It upsets me that someone may read the above negative post and not join us. You are missing out on a sensational business. Give yourself the opportunity to join an awesome company. Please keep in mind that there will always be someone that's not happy when you are dealing with thousands of people. Don't let 1 or 2 people ruin your chances for tremendous success.

I'll be watching for you in the LIVE Business Center!

Jim

[scopes]

Amazing that Mr. Carpenter and Jeffy himself felt the need to grace this thread with their opinions (with links to their respective associate sites). Aside from them, I find it very difficult to take the personal experiences of those that claim to have succeeded in this company or any similar organization at face value, and they certainly are not valid proofs of an organization's honesty, sustainability, or most importantly, of their worthiness of your investment.

Of course there are those that are successful, there must be for it to be sustainable for even a short period of time and maintain any sort of public presence. If no associate made any money then why would anyone else ever join? That, however, is beside the point.

Yes, people do seem to for some reason enter into an agreement with companies like this for better or for worse, most often not knowing the full details of what their obligations will be, what actual product is being presented, or if there is even a product at all, under the pretense that this company provides such an amazing service or product that people will literally be throwing money at you right out of their wallet to get their hands on it. And, of course, amazingly, people bite.

Notice what I've watched Mr. Lant and Mr. Carpenter do for the last few days...sat in a public webcam chat channel on their website where they claim to CLOSE YOUR DEALS FOR YOU. CLose what deals? Oh, that's right, all they do is order people to watch their recruitment video, full of vague promises of booming business and cash flowing like wine, and are offered no other instruction other than to consider what package they're going to buy.

How do those people get to the "Live Business Center"? Well that package you buy gets you an
affiliate website that points right back there, and you're responsible for getting people there and buying the package. Hell I just heard Mr. Carpenter say just that a few minutes ago. You're paying them for the opportunity to get other people to pay for the opportunity to get other people to pay...what kind of circuitous deal is that? How is this beneficial to anyone not at the top or anyone not willing to fleece unsuspecting rubes? How is this even a "business" in the loosest definition of the term? Why are they wearing the same clothes they had on yesterday and why is Jim's desk surrounded by a pile of dirty laundry?

Caveat Emptor indeed. You'll probably hear them say that, or something like it themselves. But just because buyers should be taking full responsibility for where their money goes and who they choose to give it to, does not mean this is a meaningful, responsible organization that contributes anything at all to society and is worth anything more than words on the internet.

I know most of this has been said before and to anyone with passing knowledge of MLM it is old hat, but it really can't be said enough.

[David Willis]

I am not entirely surprised at the negative comments that have been made about World Profit because it seems obvious to me that those making the compaints do not understand anything about running a business - any type of business - and in particular the opportunity that World Profit offers. Yes they sell there own products - they would be fools not to - but what products they are.

Like a very large number of people out there, I have thrown a lot of money down the drain by subscribing to MML, *****line, autoresponder etc. type 'businesses' without earning ANYTHING back. They are nothing more that site replication to recruit more people to do the same. There is no actual product for sale - you ask a question and get an autoresponder that does not tackle the question.

The World Profit business opportunity is the only one I know of that gives you the opportunity to sell products and services other than their own. Look at my website http://www.freedom2lose.com, click on the items under 'products and sevice' and see for yourself - there are several there that have nothing to do with World Profit and I am adding to them all of the time. World Profit supplied me with a platform to promote whatever products and services I choose - it is up to me to make it work.

As for the World Profit Live Business Centre, it is visually interactive. Anyone interested has the ability to wander around the site getting a lot of ideas and knowledge for FREE. No other site I know of does that. It may not be perfect, there may be occasions when people appear to be rude and even over casual in dress - we are all human. The people in the business centre talk to the world - from all over the world. It may be that someone expects to just pay their money and have $thousands fall into their lap. Lets be honest - what business do you know that does that? If you know of one that guarrantees that, then please let me know. No, you have to work at it, the same as you do with any business.

I am really sorry those who have felt the need to make these negative feel so aggrieved but you get nothing for nothing in this world and I think it only reasonable to recognise that and move on.

Something you tried failed. OK it happens. God knows I have experienced enough of it in my life-time but I know that if my internet shop - supplied by World Profit - fails it will not be for the want of trying. It will certainly not be World Profit's fault - they provided the opportunity (I could not design a website myself) - it is up to me to provide the success.

I am sorry if this comment is lengthy but - whilst I will fight for your freedom to say and do what you want (within the law) - I do not have to agree with you.

[Diane Rosolen]

Actually, YES I have heard of Worldprofit and they have made me ALOT of money since I started January 30, 2007. I have done Internet based businesses for years and have spent endless hours and money with ZERO return. Obviously the individual that has a problem with Worldprofit did not work the program the way it is supposed to be done. There is no such thing "INSTANT GRATIFICATION" in business....you need to work your business no matter what it is in order to see great, profitable results....My hat is off to Worldprofit and their AWESOME cutting edge technology that NO ONE on the internet has. See for yourself....you will be AMAZED

[scopes]

Hahaha yeah, you couldn't pound those keys hard enough, could you. Whatever, you can keep your crazy internet MLM doublethink/newspeak and I'll keep on making an honest living. :)

Also I thought referral links were against the rules, the above posts are nothing but advertisements

[Jeffrey Lant]

I feel bound to reply to the anonymous comments posted by "Scopes." Like every critic of our company here, this person posts without telling us who he or she is and the axe he/she has to grind.

Fact: Worldprofit.com is one of the oldest companies on the Internet. We've been helping people profit online since 1994.

Fact: we have invented dozens of important business applications, applications used by entrepreneurs, businesses and organizations worldwide.

Fact: We are a Member in good standing of the Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Better Business Bureau and have been for years.

Fact: we are not now nor have we ever been an MLM company, although thousands of network marketers, amongst many others, use our applications.

Fact: our Live Business Center, staffed by trained professionals, closes business for people worldwide whether those people are present or not. The LBC is unique and it is a godsend to people who need help profiting online.

Fact: We have developed a unique community environment where we assist people worldwide profit online daily.

I could go on and on but the best thing for YOU to do is go to www.worldprofit.com, become a free Associate, and attend one of my daily live webcasts. See for yourself.

Don't let some anonymous critic with only a vague knowledge of the facts taint your view of one of the most important and friendliest businesses online.

Now: here's my name -- Dr. Jeffrey Lant. here's my email address: drjlant@worldprofit.com

Go to google.com and look me up or go to www.jeffreylant.com and read my bio.

I stand behind forthright and proud behind our company and what we've accomplished. "The little hyena barks as the great caravan passes by." Or as father used to say: "Consider the source" when you read these fatuous, anonymous and ill-considered comments full of venom, self importance and a marked disdain for the truth.

[Helen Lay]

I've been an active dealer for Worldprofit for almost 10 years, making money every month and on the top sellers list many times.

Dr. Lant, as always, has put the company in perspective with his comments and the facts of a company that has been in business for over 12 years.

We dealers that have posted here have linked to our Worldprofit website because we are proud of that site and what it has done for us! So, click on http://www.stopalready!.com and see for yourself - become a FREE associate and find out just what an awesome company this is!

[scopes]

Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lant

I feel bound to reply to the anonymous comments posted by "Scopes." Like every critic of our company here, this person posts without telling us who he or she is and the axe he/she has to grind.

This line of ad hominem attack seems to be a common thread amongst proprietors such as yourself and has been addressed in other topics, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. The anonymity of the proponent of an argument has no actual bearing in the validity of the argument itself. Either way, as I post under this screen name on at least a half a dozen discussion boards, with minimal effort you could find out my name, address, phone number, pictures of me, my favorite color, and probably even the pedigree of my dogs. Irrelevant.

Fact: Worldprofit.com is one of the oldest companies on the Internet. We've been helping people profit online since 1994.

That's great, so has EBay.

Fact: we have invented dozens of important business applications, applications used by entrepreneurs, businesses and organizations worldwide.

Such as?

Fact: We are a Member in good standing of the Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Better Business Bureau and have been for years.

Again, that's great, but that really doesn't address what my post was all about, perhaps you'd like to read it again?

Fact: we are not now nor have we ever been an MLM company, although thousands of network marketers, amongst many others, use our applications.

Ah! There we go. Really? Doc, that's a boldface lie. Isn't Multi-level marketing defined as putting more emphasis on recruiting distributors than moving actual product, or have you found some other, moon-language usage of the term?

Fact: our Live Business Center, staffed by trained professionals, closes business for people worldwide whether those people are present or not. The LBC is unique and it is a godsend to people who need help profiting online.

"Closes business" = points distributor referrals to the video and packages, which then instruct them on generating more referrals. See above.

Fact: We have developed a unique community environment where we assist people worldwide profit online daily.

I've heard you guys berate prospective customers who've had the gall to ask what exactly the program is all about. Oh, it's just all too complicated to explain, you just couldn't possibly be bothered, they have to watch the video! The video that does about a good a job of explaining what goes on there as a box of marbles could demonstrate the application of Kirchoff's Law.

Don't let some anonymous critic with only a vague knowledge of the facts taint your view of one of the most important and friendliest businesses online.

Now: here's my name -- Dr. Jeffrey Lant. here's my email address: drjlant@worldprofit.com

Go to google.com and look me up or go to www.jeffreylant.com and read my bio.

I stand behind forthright and proud behind our company and what we've accomplished.

"The little hyena barks as the great caravan passes by."

This doesn't even mean anything...the mind boggles.

Or as father used to say: "Consider the source" when you read these fatuous, anonymous and ill-considered comments full of venom, self importance and a marked disdain for the truth.

Who's the self important one here? Me, who has nothing to gain from any of this? Especially, as you say, because of my anonymity. Or you, who claim to be revolutionizing the way people do business online, with the "friendliest and most important" business on the internet? How is that, when not only is it not at all transparent, but centered on recruiting more "distributors." What's the ratio of net profits brought in from the sale of actual physical outside goods sold on affiliates' sites vs. distributorship package sales?

Just how do you get off on your holier-than-thou attitude anyhow? Explain to me how your operation isn't MLM, and not only MLM, but without an actual product, and you can consider me completely satisfied and I'll forget about the whole thing, but there really isn't any evidence to the contrary, and all the information out there only reinforces that.

[borisf96]

They are actually registered by BBB as

TOB Classification: Internet Services, Internet Web Design

But they design websites only with World Profit sales pitch.

And they are not MLM. To be MLM you have to have a product and to be able to sell it to none-members. World Profit is a pyramid.

[BOB ARCHER CEC]

Yes I Have Heard Of Worldprofit
Why I Have Of Them?
I'll Tell You Why Because I Am A Sole Parent On A Pension
And When Was Told About Them I Checked It Out And My
Investigations Proved Very Supportive.
So I Joined And In The First Week I Was Actually Making Money!!!!
I Have Tried Other Variouse Things On The Net And Have Always Lost Money.this One Actually Pays.and Hey To You Dumb Hackers That Posted These Idiotic Scam Notices.get A Life You Are All Losers Especially Boris.
I Am Making Money And So Are The People I Signed Up.
I Started At Worldprofit Three Weeks Ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If You Dumbo's Can't Post Your Real Names.then You Deserve Whats
Coming To You.microsoft And Other Internet Companies Have Been Alerted And Have Already Started On Tracking You Arsewipes Down
So If You Want To Make Money On The Net We Will Not Help You Hackers So Get A Life Losers. Piss Off

[eleonora]

Yes, I have heard of Worldprofit.
My friend joined this great company after looking around on the internet.
He had tried many different things that only costed him a lot of money.
After 2 months he is already making profit.
He did not want to post a reply because he was to angry about an anonymous person trying to kill his business which he enjoys very much.
If somebody wants to give his opinion about something, why is he or she not man or woman enough to show their real name. Are they hiding because they are just trying to hurt people without reason? Do they have a problem with one person and want everybody to suffer?
I realy do not understand. If you do not like the company, do not join it.
A Pyramid? Show me one company that is not a pyramid!
My friend likes this business very much and is trying to make a living out of it.
Put your ****** in something positive and if you must change the world, there are much more important issues to put your ****** in.
I will not post his site because my friend does not want to.

[spiderpc]

(This is a non-copy-pasted, human reply.)
(Affiliates and other massive-passive-money-makers: read this subjectively.)

I did hear of it. I won't give too much details about how, just type "worldprofit" on Google and you'll see how many websites appear explaining how great it is. only when I typed "worldprofit dangerous", I could find this forum.

Anyway, I did get to one of the sites earlier. The webmaster claimed that after we log in and watch the Mighty Video, an affiliate will contact us personally by phone. I tried that with a number from a forgotten SIM card. Fact is, someone did call me, in English, from the other end of the world. My first thought was "damn those guys are really into it."

The person on the phone was very friendly and polite. However, since my English isn't always at top for economics/business topics, I didn't catch everything of the conversation. For reasons of anonymity (sorry Lant) I prefer not to give any more details of the caller or the conversation.
Most of my questions were of the type "how does it work ? how can I be sure my business won't crash on me ? why on earth would wp.com want to help other people earn money ?" I don't recall any money making business care about individuals' wealth (unless it can be profitable for the business itself which is the case here I think).

Of course I have been told that you have to work for it (without concrete details, of course). Some people buy the packages and tools, and just let it sit there. I remember from the video that Lant talked about mailing lists, pre-made answers (such as here above I guess), "who's-online" website monitors (to know who to send information that might interest them to), and other tools.

"We close deals for you."
Deals of what ? Socks ? iPods ? Bricks ? Britney Spears' hair ? If I'm supposed to close a deal, I need at least something to offer, a good or a service. Except the Silver Package (includes a domain), there's nothing you could "sell".

So I think there's nothing really to sell, just your domain via the Silver Package. I think wp.com generated a pyramid where everything is concentrated at the top, while the bottom gets nearly nothing.
wp.com gets clients (affiliates). affiliates get clients (i.e. website traffic), and wp.com gets more clients. More. More. More. A mountain of money for wp.com, a valuable amount of money for affiliates, and lots of confusion for new clients. OK, some of those clients climb and become wealthy, but this isn't manageable for everyone.

So I do believe it would work for some people. It obviously did work for Lant. But it's not possible for every single one, even with all the motivation to be part of it. I simply don't believe so.

Maybe if I had a lot of fly-money, by winning the lottery for example, I would consider investing in wp.com. But it won't touch my personal hard earned money.



Don't hesitate to answer to my post, I know I'm not always right.

[Aussie8]

YES I HAVE HEARD OF IT AND I CHECKED EVERY POSSIBLE AVENUE AS TO JUST HOW LEGIT THEY ARE.
I CONTACTED A.S.I.C, A.C.C.C, AND F.T.C in the USA PLUS B.B.B.
I CAN ONLY SUM UP BY SAYING ,THEY CHECKED OUT NOT JUST OK,BUT NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER AND IN EXCELLENT STANDING WITH THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.
SO GOOD I HAVE BEEN A SUCCESSFUL MEMBER FOR A FEW MONTHS NOW AND HAVE MADE THE TOP SELLERS AND TOP RECRUITERS LIST FOR AUGUST.
THEY ARE SO ORGANISED AND VERY USER FRIENDLY.
THERE SUCCESS IS OWED TO THE EXCLUSIVE LIVE BUSINESS CENTER THAT ADDS TRUTH TO THE OLD SAYING: WE MAKE MONEY FOR YOU' THEY ACTUALY DO LITTERALY AND IF YOU BECOME A FREE ASSOCIATE MEMBER WITH NO OBLIGATIONS YOU CAN ACTUALY VIEW THIS LIVE BUSINESS CENTER IN ACTION 24/7.
TO YOUR FUTURE SUCCESS :) :)

[Aussie8]

I Have Been Reading Other Posts And I Am Starting To See A Pattern In Peoples Attitude Towards Online Businesses.

Why Is It So Many People Expect To Get Involved In An Online Business And (1)not Pay For It, Or Pay Very Little To Join (2) Do No Work At All To Earn Money Within An Online Business Opportinity. (3) If The Business Is Making Money ,people Seem To Think It Is A Scam And Not Legitimate.
I Could Keep Going But My Point Is This..what Gives You ,the Income Seeker ,the Right To Expect A Free Ride? Why Is It That The Successful Multi Millionaires Such As Dr J Lant Are Not Within There Rights To Make Money By Running An Online Business.he Is A Harvard Graduate And You Can Bet Most Of The Members That Are Making Alot Of Money From Worldprofit And Dr Lant's High Education And Long Years Of Study ,have Hardly Finished High School!i Can Assure You I Would Rather Be Paying His Company For A Silver Package And Earning 20% Plus Commssions From It ,than Have Had Gone Through Havard ,let Alone The Study Required To Get Into Havard!

What Do Worldprofit Sell?

They Sell A Complete Business Package /silver Package In The Form Of A Website With Your Own Choice Of Domain Name And All Aspects Of E-business Tools ,software ,web Design ,interactive Site Design,webcast Services For Live Website Design,dealership Options,training From Experts In Copywriting And More.every Conceivable Tool To Run An Online Business Is Within The Reach Of All Members Of Worldprofit With Scruitinised Targeted Leads And Prospects.
You Can Have An Unlimited Amount Of Pages From These Websites With Or Without Pre Designed Content To Create Litteraly As Many Different Site Pages As You Choose.You May Also Promote Any Business Or Opportunity Excluding Adult Material From These Silver Business Package Websites.Plus Live Members Who Volunteer There Time Do Infact Close Deals And Sell Packages For Other Existing Members.this Is Due To The New And Exclusive Live Business Center Only Available To Worldprofit.
All Silver Packages Have The Above Componants To Sell From Them Plus The Option To Sell Silver Packages To Others Who Can Then Do The Same.this Is Not Multi Level Marketing And Even If It Were I Say ,so What!

I Urge Anyone Who Is Doubtful To Look Into It Further Before Knocking It. Look At A Silver Package And See What Is In It. :)

[shreveportmike]

I think dr.lant and some of the monitors are very rude to people,people ask questions and the only reply they give is w work for you,they diont ever answer the questions. There are ways of not have to pay a loan,it isnt a loan. They make 74% of what every dealer makes,they are making tons of money.
I heard they dont even have a true fawq with all the facts in it, i saw where somebody asked them if they have to pay anymore monthly if they decide it isnt for them,they didnt answer,they say are you ready to join yet? i wont say it is a scam but lets say they dont give all the true facts
Dr.lant is rude to people,he says it is being honest,yeah right. I think he has pissed away more sales for people by hustling them into buying, i have met a few nice people on there but most of them wont get to the real questions,they are making a killing and noone realizes it yet,for every sales package they make they make $75 that is either $75 a month or $750 up front,no wonder why they are millionaires!
They dont sell much and not alot of people attend these webcasts,it is all about making money but their is no real training and the ebook and their supposed 50,000 guaranteed visitors is a freaking joke. I wouldnt get involved with these guys Mike

[Aussie8]

I am an active member of worldprofit and you wll see I have written here previously.
I respond to a couple of posts but in particular CINVEST!
I can only say what I know to be true and that is Worldprofit is a Genuine business and if any person buys into a Business it incurs costs!I would demand a fee for closure also if I had people dopping out for whatever reason.
You get out of it what you put in and sure they are millionaires and I say good luck to them..We have an opportunity to tap into there knowledge for a small fee and I can assure you this,you will never EVER find a business online that is virtualy Turnkey that allows you unlimited pages on your already proffesionaly designed interactive website to promote any other business opportunity ,product or service from that site with the option to make excellent commission on there already existing products and services.All one needs to do is become a dealer with a business pakage from WP and work there prospects while learning from the CEO and his colegues.WORK is the operative word here!Nothing comes for free when so much is to be made.They want you to earn money with them and they have done for me!
More to come shortly......... sincerely Lyndon (Aussie8

[world_profit_scam]

First and foremost, this system is not a viable business practice.
The product is a website, which in turn you attempt to find others to also buy a website package, it is the exact same product that you buy and then try to sell to others, this is not a good business model and is doomed to failure.

How is this different from any other website mill or mall system which has been in the news when several of these companies was seized and shut down by the US Government.

I feel a moral obligation to point out the facts in this thread to protect those individuals who may not realize that the company in question could not obtain a business license in the United States as the business model they are using would be considered illegal by the FTC and most state governments would also refuse to issue a license to do business in the US.

The essential idea behind each scam is that the individual makes only one payment, but is promised to somehow receive exponential benefits from other people as a reward. A common example might be an offer that, for a fee, allows the victim to sell the same offer to other people, or receive bonuses through other people they refer. Each sale includes a fee to the original seller.
Clearly, the flaw is that there is no end benefit; the money simply travels up the chain, and only the originator (or at best a very few) wins in swindling his followers. Of course, the people in the worst situation are the ones at the bottom of the pyramid: those who subscribed to the plan
Source Pyramid Scheme, Wikipedia website.

Again, show us, prove to us that the system makes money for even 40 percent of those who have purchased the Silver package, of the people who have purchased these packages how may have actually profited above and beyond the fees paid to the company?

The truth is that you really cannot legally provide that proof, simply because this would reveal where the money is actually going and that is something that will never happen.

Sorry, no sale, and shame on you for what you are doing to good hard working people, It is scams like this that create so much grief among people that just want to get ahead in life, Save your money.

[Al Boek]

Guys, Guys...I've attended one of these World seminars. I feel they have a good solid program. It really did not look like MLM to me in the true sense of the word. Yes I see overide income. But I feel this company is far from being a scam. Why contact BBB, Why suggest An Attorney General? I watched it..
I felt it had merrit. But It does not even begin to touch my program...

Why is it the companies fault when you decide to purchase a program and YOU are unsuccessful? Does anyone else see a problem with this mentality but me?

[world_profit_scam]

Originally Posted by Al Boek

Guys, Guys...I've attended one of these World seminars. I feel they have a good solid program. It really did not look like MLM to me in the true sense of the word. Yes I see overide income. But I feel this company is far from being a scam. Why contact BBB, Why suggest An Attorney General? I watched it..
I felt it had merrit. But It does not even begin to touch my program...

Why is it the companies fault when you decide to purchase a program and YOU are unsuccessful? Does anyone else see a problem with this mentality but me?

Hi, I think perhaps you have confused two different programs.

This discussion is about Canadian Based, World Profit, not the Seminars sponsored by a different company.

World Profit, is a company that cannot do business in the United states since the way in which they do business is considered illegal by the government of the United States.

That is good enough for me, if they are so great and have been in business so long let them come to the US and fill out the paperwork to become a legitimate business in the United States, since a majority of the customers they seek to do business with are based in the US.

Perhaps its time to seek some help from the canadian government.

[Disappointing]

My background is in marketing. I've been a VP of marketing in several companies over the last 30 years. For entrepreneurs, two books that have been around for a while and were authored by Dr. Jeffrey Lant are: "The Unabashed Self-Promoter's Guide" and "Cash Copy." I own both. These books are excellent for entrepreneurs and I'd highly recommend them.

The thing that always stuck with me is Dr. Lant's "Rule of Seven." It basically says to penetrate a buyer's consciousness, on average it takes seven contacts between a buyer and seller before the buyer feels comfortable enough to do business with the seller. Not one, two, but seven. Typically, this is over a time period of months.

So when I checked out Jeffrey Lant's Website I was in for a shock after I signed up and listened to Dr. Lant and Jim Carpenter do their daily Webinar. They spoke about their business opportunity for making money on the internet which is selling Website services and Jeffrey Lant's products. At the end of their pitch, they pushed to close people to sign up right then for the silver package that costs over $1,000.

I would imagine that because of the Internet, the rule of seven has been shortened to maybe the rule of three or two ... but not one time.

In short, here are three reasons why I wouldn't do their program.

1. Their selling tactics were a turn-off. Very hard sell. In particular, Jeffrey tried to intimidate and talk down to people who said "no" to doing the program. Example: “Hey, everybody, Derek's on his own. What do you think of that?" Their message over and over was that the Worldprofits system was the only way people could make money on the internet. "You can't do it on your own." My guess is that Dr. Lant is smart enough to realize that the used car salesman approach works very well the people he targets. After all, he keeps doing it and in marketing and sales is if you find something that works, stick with it.

2. Who are the businesses that have already signed up? When I looked at the blue area that says "Members & Guests" which shows you who's online, the sites I saw were mostly money related. For example:

CashmountainBiz
EzWealthPlanet
GlobalMoneySourch
NobleWealth
NetProfitSuite
TheWealthGenerator
YourWealthStation
WealthSurge
SuccessRoute
3SelfMadeMillionaire

Go look at all the Websites. Other than having different domain names, headers and graphics, the content on the Websites is the same. The focus certainly isn't on having your own unique products and services of value that people want to buy.

3. Get 50,000 FREE Guaranteed Visitors today! This is somewhat misleading. They said, "We'll give you." When I opened up the four page PDF file from the goodie bag it was primarily a listing of Website links. It included how to get free listings in search engines, plus traffic exchange sites where you get credits by surfing sites and you can turn these credits into traffic directed at your site. If you sign up and activate accounts by surfing on some of these sites, they give you free credits and you can enough to hit 50,000. The first site listed, TrafficCenter.com is part of Worldprofit. The question is, "How qualified are these prospects for what you're offering?" Quantity is meaningless without quality.

Is Jeffrey Lant and Worldprofit a scam? I have no idea. It just didn't sit well with me.

I do agree with Jeffrey Lant and Worldprofit on one thing. If you want to start a successful Internet business, in addition to any money it requires putting your ****** and passion in it. Don't think you can just put the money key in the engine and it will run by itself. You've got to drive it.

It's all about developing and marketing unique products and services of value, along with having a systematic approach to your business. There are all kinds of other Internet business opportunities. The question is, "What is it that you love to do more than anything else in the world?" Now go find a business opportunity that r*****es around that.

[Todd M]

WorldProfit.com Or Dr. Jefferey Lant Profit??
I Just sat through a webcast hosted by Dr. Lant. I was promised 50,000 visitors to my website after sitting through the entire webcast. Well, the webcast was long boring and basically shameless self-promotion for "The Silver Package", which you can read about in other posts here.
After the "Yawn-cast" I returned to the members area and asked if I would then be credited with my "free visitors" Mr. Jim Carpenter rudely answered my post by saying that after he was finished with his time to promote "The Silver Package" he would take questions.
Another 20 minutes of promotions lead me to start looking at reviews in a separate window while listening to Jim and Jefferey sell something called "The Silver Package". I wanted to know what products these websites were actually selling. So I asked Jefferey to give the room a sample link to look at. He refused to deliver but gave me his home phone number.
So I called Dr. Jefferey Lant and He said "I'm Busy" and quickly hung up on me before I had a chance to explain that I just wanted to see if there were actually products being sold or were they just getting people to sell more "Silver Packages".
Jim and Jefferey tried to defer my questions and single me out as a skeptic and trouble maker. They then kicked me out of the members area without fulfilling the obligation of 50,000 free visitors to my website.
Just before I got kicked out by Dr. Jefferey Lant and/or Jim Carpenter I was able to post a link to this thread so others could read some real reviews before losing alot of money.
WorldProfit.com? Or Dr. Jefferey Lant Profit?

[meluvfl]

If you want to get your 50,000 Guaranteed visitors...all you have to do is log back into your Worldprofit member area and on the left side click on Goody Bag....the link for you should be there. Good luck.

[ReadySetGo]

Where do you go to sign up? PM me if you will, Meluvfl

Originally Posted by meluvfl

If you want to get your 50,000 Guaranteed visitors...all you have to do is log back into your Worldprofit member area and on the left side click on Goody Bag....the link for you should be there. Good luck.

[shreveportmike]

dont join up with them, a buddy of mine in atlanta joined it,there leads were junk,then he got hurt and forgot to pay his next monthly installment the next month and they were leaving threats, telling him he owes $1,199 and he better pay it,he has some collection agency after him but they have nothing to pin him with,he never gave him his ssn number and he hasnt heard anything from them
they like to use scare tactics,i asked what he got,he said nothing,he said he got two sales and never saw a penny from these guys,he told the bill collector that and he said it doesnt matter,you owe me money now but he just ignored the guy,these guys are jerks and wouldnt give them a penny,word is out on these guys,just do a search of world profits and dr lants,alot of bad opinions on this one

[WP_Scam]

Don't join this scam of a site. I went in there to listen to what they had to say and attended one of Lant's webcasts. Afterwards, they asked if I was ready to buy my silver package for $1,200 and I told them I would have to think about it. Immediately, Lant got angry and told me he didn't want me to come back to talk to any of the monitors again unless I was there to buy the silver package. Didn't want me to come back unless I paid them $1,200? I thought they were there to HELP ME? Guess they are only there to help themselves...to my money.

Discouraged, I decided to use my credit for attending the webcast to get Lant's ebook (valued at $25!) instead of the 50,000 visitors. When I opened it, I was extremely disappointed. The whole thing was just one giant advertisement for World Profit. It just explained what World Profit did and why I should join them and how you can't do anything without them. What a rip-off. All these people want is your money.

Oh yeah and don't be suckered in by this $100 down installment plan, either. If you can't get the $1,200 now, what makes you think you can afford this? As they always say, the borrower is slave to the lender. It's odd that a millionaire would advocate people going into debt so much. You are going into debt with these people by using the installment plan and that is not a very wise idea at all.

One of my favorite lines spoken by Dr. Lant when I said I had to think about getting the package was that I was over-thinking and don't think, just do. Exactly...the people who buy the silver package are not thinking.

[shreveportmike]

i went to look at it and it was a crock of crap,i said i didnt know and dr lant said i got anaylsis paraylsis,forgive my spelling,i am taking medicine now lol
i said dr.lant $1,200 is alot of money to be commited to,he says dont be a fool,i said dont call me names,he got very sarcastic and i told him he was a jerk,he kicked me out,i came back under a new email address and told him,i said your company is nothing but hustling,he kicked me out again
he doesnt want to hear the truth,he is a jerk,i dont know why people want to defend this guy,they need to be shut down,they dont offer a real product or service,if you call insults a product
there are alot of people who have tried to do the program and alot of them stop paying after a month or so,i cant blame them,they get hounded by collectors and alot of people dont even get their commissions,his ebooks are crap also,it doesnt show you how to make money online
there are some nice people in there but there are some real jerks too,i wouldnt give this guy one penny,he needs to learn to be more respectful and their traffic center is a joke,all it is advertisements for world profits
my friend told me he got another email saying he will have to pay $2,000 with court costs, i told him he could fight it because they dont get a real product and service and the only way they could win in their city court if they had signed a written agreement,they just use fear tactics but it wouldcost them alot more to fly into that person's hometown,pay for expenses and it wouldnt be worth $1,100
i hope they nail this guy,i found out they are in canada also,if they were in the us they would be shut down,they need to get a life for sure!

[shreveportmike]

i just saw on another forum about these guys,he said his products didnt even work right and couldnt even get the website up and running,he said he wasnt going to pay them a dime.Their response was it doesnt matter,you signed up for it,now we want our money,what a bunch of scumbags,their talking website!!!!you pay $1200 for a url and some newsletter leads and crappy ebooks that i could write,any case in the us wouldnt be able to take this to court,they would be shut down in the u.s
also this guy said he was supposed to get $400 in commissions from them but didnt see a dime,they said he didnt pay the next month installment and he said pay him and he will pay the installment program,they said it didnt work that way,man these people are stealing peoples money left and right

[WP_Scam]

Today I was hanging around in World Profit's Live Business Center as a guest. I have been monitoring their chat room the last few days to see how they conduct business and they say the same things everyday. They always tell people they won't get bonuses unless they join right now but they could always just join the next day and get the same bonuses. After their daily webcast, Lant couldn't get ANY people to sign up. He was so mad and implied they all were stupid and that they were all "frozen" and had "analysis paralysis" which he says repeatedly daily. It's like his favorite saying. He said other things to attempt to guilt people into buying a package or making them feel bad. He kicked out half the people without giving them any premiums and he told Jim Carpenter to instruct the monitors that if any of the people who he was talking to came back later tonight or another day, he wanted them kicked out of the chat room. His sales strategy is to disbelieve in people so that they feel the need to prove him wrong and buy the silver package. They either get so excited by his webcast or excited to prove this person who is insulting them wrong that their judgment is clouded. Is this what a real business does?

I'm also kind of curious about the "members of the community" that Lant always calls on to tell potential members how great the program is. So far, it's been the same 3 or 4 "members" everyday for a week. Don't these people have anything else to do than to attend every single webcast and gloat about how great the program is? It just seems a little suspicious.

[shreveportmike]

i am laughing because one of my friends on my space told me she went to a lecture in Boston by dr.lant and she said he was creepy,then some people he said he was rude.she said he had an entourage of social misfits who never go out in public except when he is speaking,they hide behind their computer all day
she said dr lant was dirty,with real long fingernails and the creepiest little man she has ever seen lol

she said he was trying to get people into worldprofits at his lecture and alot of people who attended said they had pissed their money away for this lol
she doubts he is even a millionaire,she says he was rude and even told one person to get out of his lecture,what a piece of work this guy is lol

[Jim Carpenter]

First of all, I would just like to make the following statements. If you have been on the Internet for more than a day, you know that there are a lot of losers on the Internet, sexual perverts, terrorists, and just plain mean people. Those are the people who have written here.

Here's all I ask: Find out for yourself. You know, the more popular a company becomes and the larger it gets, the more people will try to tear it down. But, that's ok, because we are a strong company with 14 years of online success. Most of the people who are writing their comments here anr simply failures.

We have a good, solid company, with superb products and services, training & support, a great community of people from all over the World and we are helping people make money and become successful too.

One more thing. Having your own business takes character and foritude, both of which the people who wrote their comments here...don't have.

Not everybody is accepted in our community and frankly, we don't want everyone. We only want good, solid, hard-working people who will do their share of work and NOT those who want a free ride.

Now, if you are a serious person with credibility and honest and will do your share, we want you. If not, don't bother.

Jim Carpenter, Worldprofit Dealer since 1998

[WP_Scam]

Jim, scam.com is a community of people that warn unsuspecting people about sites and businesses that we collectively believe are scams. If you do not like this community, then you can go away, just as Mr. Lant tells people who do not want to buy the silver package to go away. The very fact you and Mr. Lant repeatedly have come here to defend all these ridiculous claims speaks volumes. If you are doing so well and all of these claims are just made by people who don't know what they are talking about, there should be no need to try to refute them.

Also, I own a very successful business and I know how stupid it is to go into debt -- something obviously World Profit does not understand. While not an internet business, I still own a business nonetheless. Next time you try to tell people what it takes to run a business, you should probably think twice unless you know exactly who you are speaking with. Just remember that to assume makes an ass out of "u" and "me".

[shreveportmike]

Originally Posted by Jim Carpenter

First of all, I would just like to make the following statements. If you have been on the Internet for more than a day, you know that there are a lot of losers on the Internet, sexual perverts, terrorists, and just plain mean people. Those are the people who have written here.

Here's all I ask: Find out for yourself. You know, the more popular a company becomes and the larger it gets, the more people will try to tear it down. But, that's ok, because we are a strong company with 14 years of online success. Most of the people who are writing their comments here anr simply failures.

We have a good, solid company, with superb products and services, training & support, a great community of people from all over the World and we are helping people make money and become successful too.

One more thing. Having your own business takes character and foritude, both of which the people who wrote their comments here...don't have.

Not everybody is accepted in our community and frankly, we don't want everyone. We only want good, solid, hard-working people who will do their share of work and NOT those who want a free ride.

Now, if you are a serious person with credibility and honest and will do your share, we want you. If not, don't bother.

Jim Carpenter, Worldprofit Dealer since 1998

ok Jim you comparing me to a terrorist and a loser,this comes from a guy who sits behind a computer for more then 8 hours a day misleading people,you are a freaking joke
You talk about you and dr lants have character,all i have seen you do is try to hustle people,you dont have fortitude and you are not a nice person neither is dr lant,people have real questions you go we already answered it,just give us $1200,i would tell everyone that is with world profits do a chargeback or dont pay your monthly fees,these guys are a bunch of idiots. These are the ones that gives internet a bad name.
You harass people,you mock them if they dont have money to join and your 50,000 guaranteed visitors is a load of crap,all it does give a list of crappy website traffic sites, dr lants ebooks are a joke also, you guys have no credibility and i would love to see canada shut you guys down because if this was the us where they were based out of,you would be shut down quicker then burn lounge because you guys offer no products that are tangible
your price is a rip off and you ain at alot of foreign people i notice,i have seen you lauch and mock people in that so called talking website,it is a crock of crap, you are more like the terrorists,we are stating truth mr.carpenter, so stay under that rock you are used to sitting under and kiss dr lants hiney

[Adam_D]

Okay, before I get started with my opinion and my experience from World Profit, I am more than glad that I've found this thread.

I used to be a dealer at World Profit and had the domain name 'legendarywealth' in mid 2007, but now another dealer is running that, so I have no involvement in it.

I am very disappointed with the way World Profit has done to me.

As soon as I purchased this silver package ('Scam package' in truth), my sponsor (Named Alvin) turned his back on me and when I needed his help about certain things, he called me a scam.

Also, the sponsor I've switched to wasn't realy any better and was only using me for a downline on traffic exchange sites, so she could profit extra while I waste time over for nothing. At one time, that sponsor also was in the Live Business while drunk and didn't have her microphone on which means the guests wouldn't hear her voice.

Half the monitor people in the Live Business Center are ignorant. I have seen many visitors in there flaming and to be frank, I don't blame them at all.

After all that, I had enough of this scheme so when I cancelled my package, I had to pay $200 (Petty!).

And since I've left there, I've been getting so much spammed e-mails such as loans, car insurance etc, so I am suspecting that WP has been giving/trading my e-mail address to other entities that I've never opted in on ever.

When it comes to prospects, most of these prospects are duds which mean they are not looking for a home-based business.

I remember that a prospect replied to me in email telling me to remove her off the list, so without question I did. But next day, she emailed me again telling me to remove her off the list or she'll report me to the spam center. I knew that I have completely took her off the list, but this now shows that WP is continuing to email her (Using my email addy no doubt) and is actually responsible for spamming and will scapegoat the dealer and will intend to take $100 off the dealer for spam penalty in which the dealer never commited in the first place. I then knew for sure that they were trying to shaft me for more cash, so I just cancelled out.

World Profit is indeed dangerous and they are interested in nothing but making money, whether the silver package buyer is having a good time or a bad time with this company.

The only bright side I can think of is that few of the dealers there are not mean people and will not take advantage of others.

I will always have that company in my blacklist since I've found out about their dirty deeds. It's a scam for those who are not experienced in marketing but for those who are may just get around it, but I generally and strongly recommend never to get involved with WP. Jeffrey Lant doesn't care about that though, he is just interested in smelling money like some insane crackhead with withdrawal symptons.

These top WP people are not realy any better than those 419ers.

[lucky4u]

cinvest,
Thank you for taking the time to post your experience with this company. I was suspect when I was on-line and started asking the "big dawg" Dr. Lant some questions and he slammed me to buy the Silver Package and he actully got rude with me and eventually shut me off the webcast when I kept asking legitimate questions...this was only after him and his online partner laughed a me and acted all high and mighty about how dumb I was for not purchasing their Silver Package. Did anyone ever notice that he does not really look like the 20 year younger photo he has on the web site, in real life he looks like an old recluse. What a scam...

You saved me a lot of money and grief!

Good Luck!

[gazdank]

I was on the Webcast today and I was reading the information when Dr Lant kept asking me if I am ready to join. I said I am looking at information and he said, "Well i guess he doesn't respond" He said "he already gave me a fake phone number so he probably isn't real anyway. Huh? I just wanted to look at the information and check it out. Every two seconds he is asking if I am ready to join. He is very rude. Who acts that way the first time you are on? Then someone else has ben on around 10 times and he said, "You been on enough" Either join today or don't? I believe someone can take as much time as they want. They seem very pushy and really don't say much about what you are doing in the program. Dr Lant actually booted me off for not saying anything. Even though I did. Geez! Also they made a HUGE deal about me not giving my last name. They said" Are you afraid of your last name"? Why are you so embarrased? What the?? Why would anyone want to join people like this? It seemed great at first but just sit back and watch how they treat people..Don't say anything or type anything and they hate that and boot you..I actually was really interested in the program but got turned off immediately! Plus reading this thread makes me glad I didn't pull out my credit card. Is anyone legit anymore? I just want to work hard and make some money online. Tired of getting excited for nothing.

[borisf96]

Originally Posted by gazdank

Is anyone legit anymore? I just want to work hard and make some money online. Tired of getting excited for nothing.

Avoid "programs" and "systems". They are exactly the same. If it does not look like a real job or asks money upftront for just participating avoid, avoid, avoid.

[ShelbyRedHead]

I have been reading these posts on World Profit and I don't get how some of you think this comp is a scam. I was a membera few yeara ago but dropped out due tofamily helath problems. I have now sorted that out and re-joined the comp. They used to require a one year contract as some of you posted but they don't do this now. There is no contract and anyone not happy can quit without cancellation fee or futher cost. Scams shut down after they fizzle out, this comp has been around since the 90's and if someone doean'st like what they offer or have to say then just quit or log off. And what does Doctor Lant lookin older than his picuture have to dowith being a scam, he's got his face plastered all over theplace and sits on that site helping people making salesall day. What other biz op has this? He's not charming but nor does he have time for people who want something for nothing and aren't willing toactually do some hard work. If Lant and his biz ops are not for you, then goaway and find another but you have no facts to show this company is in any way a scam or not legit. On the other side, if you are willing to actually work rathern then whine then try it for 30days for $100 and if you are not happy just quit.But you get a ton of stuff,software, a sitedomain, training, traffic exchanges, safe lists, leads amd more - use the stuff to sell anything you want or market on the site, but if you arer not satisfied so be it but if u are you can go on like me and others and actually make some moeny.

[Adam_D]

I am going to go to the conclusion that as soon as someone purchases the silver package on there, they get treated like crap and are provided with an invisible ultimatum by impression:

"Become a conniver yourself by swindling your free associates like you've being swindled by your sponsor and WP or put up with the cash you have lost for the bogus product, pay the cancellation fee then **** off"

...which basically is what they are saying.

For those dealers who are inclined into swindling will become loyal to WP and will defend it even if they have to be vulgar. For those who were against this scheme showed their anger in the Live Business Center but only got kicked and banned.

While I was a dealer on there, another dealer I used to have a convo with on google talk was becoming p***ed off with the company and was behind paying the instalment plan ($99.95/month) and somehow he has quit out of it, which got me thinking that I never want to be in that position, so I too have left there without any regret learning that this system is vile.

Now I am glad that not even one prospect under me has purchased the silver package, otherwise they will be faced with this invisible cruel ultimatum like I and others have suffered.

It's a nasty pyramid scheme indeed, so just ignore those active dealers who will try to pull you in and entrap you. Swindling downlines is what they are inclined to do for themselves and for this company.