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Old 10-07-2011, 10:39 PM
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Re: Anti-MLM Bigots?

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Maybe he left, permanently...
Why didn't you answer the question?

1. You don't know the answer

2. The answer is not what you wish to reveal.

3. You are a scam artist so you don't wish to reveal the answer?

The original question was what is the average income of a vitascam IBO and what is the likely result for someone who joins? You answer or lack of will speak volumes.

P.S. Krissy Doyle is not a certified troll catcher, but a certified troll.




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Old 10-07-2011, 10:46 PM
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The original question was what is the average income of a vitascam IBO and what is the likely result for someone who joins? You answer or lack of will speak volumes.
1. Average income? Don't know, figures not published publicly.

2. Likely result for someone who joins? That would depend. If they're coachable, learn the skills needed, are motivated, not afraid of rejection and work hard, they're very likely to reach the level of success they wish to reach. If they don't do any of those things, they're likely to make nothing from a business point of view, but could still become a happy product user.
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Thise links basically had comments that looks like it waas written by Amway IBO's.
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Learn to read you fvcking moron. I never claimed those pages were from IBO's.
And he admits to changing people's posts!
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By the way, I only change links when people make personal (unsubstantiated) attacks on me. I find it works quite effectively when I employ that tactic.

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Old 10-07-2011, 10:57 PM
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1. Average income? Don't know, figures not published publicly.

2. Likely result for someone who joins? That would depend. If they're coachable, learn the skills needed, are motivated, not afraid of rejection and work hard, they're very likely to reach the level of success they wish to reach. If they don't do any of those things, they're likely to make nothing from a business point of view, but could still become a happy product user.
Nice diversion (again). If the numbers were favorable, vitaSCAM would publish them but the numbers are dismal so you have dislaimers like the one you just posted. It's ridiculous.

It's like saying that so and so car is not the most unsafe car, based on accident stats. It's just that the owners of this model don't take professional driving lessons and they don't spen time practicing driving their cars.

In others words, Chris, you're full of guano.

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Old 10-07-2011, 11:56 PM
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Why didn't you answer the question?

1. You don't know the answer
Don't know, don't care. It's your issue, not mine. Any answer given to you won't make a damn bit of difference. You've made up your mind. I'm OK with that.

Next question...

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2. The answer is not what you wish to reveal.
No the answer is not the one you want to hear. Again, it's your problem.

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3. You are a scam artist so you don't wish to reveal the answer?
You are a Liar. How does that feel?

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The original question was what is the average income of a vitascam IBO and what is the likely result for someone who joins? You answer or lack of will speak volumes.
Again, you don't like my/our answer, tough.

1. - One has to consider the source of the question, (YOU, clearly an Anti-MLM bigot...)

2. - My lack of an answer speaks volumes!?, so does your general attitude towards all MLM's...

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P.S. Krissy Doyle is not a certified troll catcher, but a certified troll.
Who cares?! We're ALL trolls here in one way or another! Give it a rest.

You and BoxAlarm should hang out together. He seems to want to be the ad hominem radar, and you're zeroing in on trying to be the troll patrol! You could be the dynamic duo of chat-room hallway monitors!

Again, give it a rest. BFrigginD
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:11 AM
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Nice diversion (again). If the numbers were favorable, vitaSCAM would publish them but the numbers are dismal so you have dislaimers like the one you just posted. It's ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is Anti-MLM bigots like you that can't accept real answers.

If the answers show significant earnings you think there's a crook at the bottom of it. If they don't have success, they're a VICTIM. Either way, you can't see the forest for the trees.

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It's like saying that so and so car is not the most unsafe car, based on accident stats. It's just that the owners of this model don't take professional driving lessons and they don't spen time practicing driving their cars.
Terrible analogy IMO.

What's your point?

Are you implying that taking driving lessons and practicing ones driving doesn't/can't help prevent accidents?

Here's a clue. Check out other business' where it's a performance based gig, like selling insurance, cars or Real Estate. You'll find that most people DO NOTHING when it comes to performing on their own, without a boss watching over them, and it's sales(facing rejection...)...

Quit making MLM to be the bad guy...just a suggestion...

What you resist, persists...

Sorry, you're full of guano it seems, guano of the Anti-MLM kind...
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:02 AM
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I have GeryD to thank for this one...

He posted it in response to another thread, and it rightly belongs here as well...

Are you an Anti-MLM bigot?

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Interestingly the OP, with a few subtle changes in words could apply equally right here at SCAM.Com - edy...

Sometimes it happens to the nicest of people and it often happens slowly and subtly. These are the signs that you are becoming obsessed and you are likely annoying people looking for valid discussions. I hope this helps:

*You're driven to demean everyone you know who doesn't think like you. You may even resort to deception, crudeness or outright vulgarity to impress and get people to listen to you. Before you know it, you're no better than the next person in your debate skills and belittling others' occupations.

*You're encouraged to develop an unreasonable, irrational zeal for sarcasm. Even so far as to justify the quality of your resources or to call the source prestigious. You may even argue the legitimacy of something you know nothing about.

*Demands, accusations subtle threats of reporting to authorities are made in the course of discussion. You feel that if you quit posting, you are a loser destined to remain defeated in debate.

*Because you see the system as the way to save the world from the DARK SIDE, you're under pressure to check the forum regularly looking for discussions to inject accusations. Little in life has importance except for the quest of quashing the other side. All activities in your life must include the thought of stopping by SCAM.com-edy.

*Your cohorts soon become your most loyal friends. Your thoughts and feelings are shaped in part by your obsession with forum adversaries. You can let nary a thread they participate in exist without a crass comment about them from you. You can't let a day go by without saying their name or replying to their comments

Do you recognize these behaviors? Unfortunately some on each side of the aisle should. Hopefully you aren't displaying them.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:29 PM
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Are you an Anti-MLM bigot?
Looking for some REAL information on MLM? 3 sites...

Heiney, you might want to update your sig line. You have FOUR links, not THREE.

Did MLM rob you of the ability to count over the years?

Also, why must you use such a vile description for people who can see through the smoke and mirrors of MLM? Bigots?

You might want to inform your MLM co-conspirator here at SCAM.COM to update his link as well. We miss the comical Vitamark infomercials at the bottom of his posts.
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Old 10-10-2011, 04:42 AM
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What's ridiculous is Anti-MLM bigots like you that can't accept real answers.
If the answers show significant earnings you think there's a crook at the bottom of it. If they don't have success, they're a VICTIM. Either way, you can't see the forest for the trees.
What is ridiculous is that MLM scammers refuse to provide real answers to hard questions regarding numbers. This means that maybe they don't know what the numbers are, and they have no business selling someone on a business proposition that they don't understand themselves. Or, they know that the numbers would look horrible to someone trying to evaluate a business proposition and they are trying to sell it to them anyway, knowing that it's quite likely their victims will lose money. They don't show their victims either the forest or the trees. They are big on telling their victims that the forest and the trees are robust and growing well, and you'll just have to take their word for it.

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Old 10-10-2011, 07:04 AM
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Wait, so no MLM in history has EVER stopped growing??
That's not what I said.

"saturated" is the operative word...
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Old 10-10-2011, 07:15 AM
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No the answer is not the one you want to hear. Again, it's your problem.

It's more like the answer is one that has never been revealed.

Why the secrecy? Hiding something?

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Old 10-10-2011, 09:19 AM
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It's more like the answer is one that has never been revealed.

Why the secrecy? Hiding something?
What secrecy? About WHAT? Just curious.
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Old 10-10-2011, 09:25 AM
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What secrecy? About WHAT? Just curious.
All I asked was what the average income was for a vitamark IBO and how the average income was calculated. Then I got all this obfuscation and attacks instead of a simple straight answer. Why is that?

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Old 10-10-2011, 09:41 AM
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All I asked was what the average income was for a vitamark IBO and how the average income was calculated.
First off, asking for income 'averages' or projections are a slippery slope, even for the franchising industry. As I understand it, Franchising companies will provide those numbers in ONLY 20% of the requests!

THAT'S FRANCHISING! 20%!!

Also, I'm not a VM IBO...why this thread?! It's off topic!

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Then I got all this obfuscation and attacks instead of a simple straight answer. Why is that?
I guess it's a slippery slope then!

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First off, asking for income 'averages' or projections are a slippery slope, even for the franchising industry. As I understand it, Franchising companies will provide those numbers in ONLY 20% of the requests!

THAT'S FRANCHISING! 20%!!

Also, I'm not a VM IBO...why this thread?! It's off topic!

I guess it's a slippery slope then!

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REAL businesses have no problem opening their books.
Good luck to you finding a 'real' business then! Hope you're sophisticated enough to know if the books have been 'cooked' or not too. But that's another thread...
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Good luck to you finding a 'real' business then! Hope you're sophisticated enough to know if the books have been 'cooked' or not too. But that's another thread...
An MLMer talking about 'cooked books'. Absolutely hilarious!

MLM's are 'cooked' from beginning to end. Not just the books.

Think before you post!
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Old 10-11-2011, 07:40 AM
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An MLMer talking about 'cooked books'. Absolutely hilarious!

MLM's are 'cooked' from beginning to end. Not just the books.

Think before you post!
Says more about the MLM defenders than the critics.

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I said it before: Let's be honest, MLM isn't about the product, It's about the income opportunity


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