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Old 06-28-2011, 04:02 AM
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If your friend is with a good company with good products, he learns the necessary skills and puts them into action for 5 years he can achieve anything he sets his mind to achieve. Most people give up before they get there though.
Right! You should refer him to Chris's MLM scam. That way Chris can lie to him and tell him that over 50% of his affiliate victims are profitable and successful.

That way he can at least have pleasant fantasies at the beginning.


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Old 06-28-2011, 04:14 AM
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Right! You should refer him to Chris's MLM scam. That way Chris can lie to him and tell him that over 50% of his affiliate victims are profitable and successful.

That way he can at least have pleasant fantasies at the beginning.
Sure,...then there was the time that you lied to everyone about Auto-orders & MLM's & returning products.... You LIED 100% about that, didn't you?!
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Old 06-28-2011, 04:20 AM
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So, using your standards, please show me where you've talked to all the people that gave up.

You haven't? Then you are just guessing.
I'd be willing to bet that Chris knows this from personal experience, as do I. I guess you could call it a 'standard'. Something of which you have NONE of, remember? You've never even been in business for yourself, so, how could you have a clue?

We understand cal, you don't. For you, it's just theory and conjecture based on the WSJ and your BS.

People are flakes generally, and don't commit to much of anything...

BTW, I understand that Twitter has yet to make a profit. Maybe you can help since you seem to be the profit/loss 'expert'!?
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Old 06-28-2011, 05:31 AM
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I'd be willing to bet that Chris knows this from personal experience, as do I. I guess you could call it a 'standard'.
your only standards are personal insults, and they're not even good standards.
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Something of which you have NONE of, remember? You've never even been in business for yourself, so, how could you have a clue?
I have more business success than you do. Family business and investing destroys your "net loss".
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We understand cal, you don't.
You understand it so well that you lose money at it. You speak of standards. You need better ones.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:01 AM
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your only standards are personal insults,
any post of yours directed at me is sprinkled with nothing BUT personal insults and hatred. Where is same in my last post directed at you? Hypocrite. (If I call you a hypocrite and you are one, is that still considered a personal insult, or is it just stating a fact?!)

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and they're not even good standards.
They're still better than NONE.

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I have more business success than you do.
No, you don't. You've never owned your own business. your family business was not yours. IT was likely your mommy and daddy's.

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Family business and investing destroys your "net loss".
Is your "family" business YOURS?....I think your BS'n, everyone, LIAR. (gee, that is fun cal! ...just call em a liar!,, nice&easy...)

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You understand it so well that you lose money at it. You speak of standards. You need better ones.
You need any(other than theory & conjecture...), as far as owning your own business.

Try it, you'll like it...maybe, though I think you'd be happiest being an employee. Just guessing...
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:27 AM
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Sure,...then there was the time that you lied to everyone about Auto-orders & MLM's & returning products.... You LIED 100% about that, didn't you?!
You, as usual, are writing falsehoods about your critics lying to make it seem that you have credibility. You don't.

Anyone with an IQ larger than the number of laceholes in their tennis shoes could look up the MLM and auto-ship thing in a nanosecond.

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Old 06-28-2011, 06:43 AM
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You, as usual, are writing falsehoods about your critics lying to make it seem that you have credibility. You don't.

Anyone with an IQ larger than the number of laceholes in their tennis shoes could look up the MLM and auto-ship thing in a nanosecond.
And... what did you find? Did you confirm what you lied about earlier?
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:47 AM
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They're still better than NONE.
I have standards, which include being profittable in my life, morally and financially.
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No, you don't. You've never owned your own business. your family business was not yours. IT was likely your mommy and daddy's.
Are you claiming I have never filed a schedule C? I actually have, and it showed a profit. Never filed one that showed a loss, so yes, I am ahead of you. And my investing (which does not go on schedule C before you ask) has produced over six figures in income, so I think I'm ahead of you there too. When you can live in your house, get back to me.
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Is your "family" business YOURS?
It was my parents. They offered me part ownership, I declined.
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I think your BS'n, everyone, LIAR.
yet you have no proof of your liar claim. I have proven you to be a liar.
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Old 06-28-2011, 06:48 AM
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I have standards, which include being profittable in my life, morally and financially.Are you claiming I have never filed a schedule C? I actually have, and it showed a profit. Never filed one that showed a loss, so yes, I am ahead of you. And my investing (which does not go on schedule C before you ask) has produced over six figures in income, so I think I'm ahead of you there too. When you can live in your house, get back to me.It was my parents. They offered me part ownership, I declined.yet you have no proof of your liar claim. I have proven you to be a liar.
Back to the circles...Ok...

fun...!
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Old 06-28-2011, 07:38 AM
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And... what did you find? Did you confirm what you lied about earlier?
How do you confirm what was a lie? A lie can be confirmed directly, but not the underlayment.

As I said before, I don't waste my time on behalf of MLM scammers. But before you try to play more semantics, I don't consider criticizing someone who refuses to put up hard numbers to the people he is trying to sell business to wasting time.

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Old 06-28-2011, 08:18 AM
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How do you confirm what was a lie? A lie can be confirmed directly, but not the underlayment.

As I said before, I don't waste my time on behalf of MLM scammers. But before you try to play more semantics, I don't consider criticizing someone who refuses to put up hard numbers to the people he is trying to sell business to wasting time.

Are you really under the impression that I'm trying to ''sell the business'' to you?
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Old 06-28-2011, 08:48 AM
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Are you really under the impression that I'm trying to ''sell the business'' to you?
Sometimes you can be a pretty funny guy! But I doubt if that is your intention.

Selling your scam to me? Now that is downright hilarious!

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Old 06-28-2011, 08:56 AM
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Sometimes you can be a pretty funny guy! But I doubt if that is your intention.

Selling your scam to me? Now that is downright hilarious!
So why are you criticising me for not giving you the numbers?
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:13 AM
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Actually, they are reporting it's shrinking. Decreasing revenues means shrinking, not growing. Unless of course your product is merely recruits, in which case it is growing. Even when you guys try to show proof....numbers show MLM problems, not support.

I think MLM is dying. Not fast, as there will always be a certain number of people who fall in love off the idea of making money off everyone. But dying none the less. I'm sorry, but if you think you are going to be an MLM king, go to China or India. They haven't been burned on this stuff yet.

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I think MLM is dying. Not fast, as there will always be a certain number of people who fall in love off the idea of making money off everyone. But dying none the less. I'm sorry, but if you think you are going to be an MLM king, go to China or India. They haven't been burned on this stuff yet.
I can't wait to see Chris "Pathological Liar" Doyle's response to this one! Should be a hoot.

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Old 06-28-2011, 09:39 AM
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It is *****ing. Our company made it onto the top 100 for the first time.

A new paradigm, more customers than affiliates, utilizing mass media. A blend of MLM payout, catalog company....its growing...
I wonder what the **** word is? It's like playing wheel of fortune around here. Where's Vanna White, I need to buy a vowel. Now Wil, once again you post some "fact" without a link. What top 100? Show us the link or STFU.

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I think MLM is dying. Not fast, as there will always be a certain number of people who fall in love off the idea of making money off everyone. But dying none the less. I'm sorry, but if you think you are going to be an MLM king, go to China or India. They haven't been burned on this stuff yet.
I think someone needs to click on the link to the Wall Street Journal pullout and then actually read it!
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:51 AM
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So why are you criticising me for not giving you the numbers?
If you refuse to make the numbers public and deliberately try to obfuscate them it is evidence of a scam. I don't want others with less experience to get scammed.


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