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Old 06-22-2011, 05:47 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

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So you agree...it cant practically be done then?
Actually the way it can be done is by correct training, and this happens in the majority of cases. But we're dealing with humans here, this really is a ''people business'' and there will always be bad apples.
Of course it can't be done. Not if the MLMs want to stay in business. And of course there will always be bad apples. Those are the ones that figure out what their MLM is up to and keep doing it anyway.


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Old 06-22-2011, 06:12 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

If the best MLMs can do is produce a 3% success rate, and that's WITH them using deception and every other legal (and sometimes illegal) trick in the book, then just imagine their success rate if they were completely ethical and honest.Would probably be somewhere around the 0% mark, I'd say.

Even with the scamming they can only produce an abismal 3% success rate. I'd not only run from MLMs, but I'd drop everything just so I can run away a little faster.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:19 AM
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If the best MLMs can do is produce a 3% success rate, and that's WITH them using deception and every other legal (and sometimes illegal) trick in the book, then just imagine their success rate if they were completely ethical and honest.Would probably be somewhere around the 0% mark, I'd say.

Even with the scamming they can only produce an abismal 3% success rate. I'd not only run from MLMs, but I'd drop everything just so I can run away a little faster.

Where do you get this 3% success rate from?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:32 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

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Should I go with three of your's? Chris's? Wil's?

Or one of each.

Or should I not waste my time, as anyone who has spent time here would know that I could produce dozens of examples in a heartbeat.

With sugar on it.
Let's make it easy. Start with three of mine.

I'll be waiting.

Kerry

PS, you never answered my question about why you 'hide' behind an anonymous handle? What are you hiding? Just curious.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:37 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

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Where do you get this 3% success rate from?
That number is a bit generous.

Doyle, what number are you tracking? Can you link it?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:39 AM
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That number is a bit generous.

Doyle, what number are you tracking? Can you link it?
Isn't that the agreed upon number, even among MLM zealots? 3%? I want to say it's actually lower than that, but I want to make sure to give credit to those who just break even too. It's probably more like 1% become rich, 1% do okay, 1% break even, and 97% fail miserably.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:41 AM
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That number is a bit generous.

Doyle, what number are you tracking? Can you link it?

Okay call it anything from 0.1 to 3%. Where do you get it from?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:50 AM
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Isn't that the agreed upon number, even among MLM zealots? 3%? I want to say it's actually lower than that, but I want to make sure to give credit to those who just break even too. It's probably more like 1% become rich, 1% do okay, 1% break even, and 97% fail miserably.

1 to 3% is a figure showing those that earn the top money, but you guys have it cut and dried, black or white that 3% are successful, and 97% are a failure.
What about the people that only want to earn enough to pay for their products, or those that only wanted to earn $300 a month and achieved and so on? They are all in the 97% so called failure group.
There is no such thing as a 3% success group and a 97% failure group, or any percentage you want to state. Its bullshit.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:51 AM
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Chris,

A few months back you posted a link to a document about MLM, and how it works.

The whole aspect of the 'sometime employment' was discussed.

Mayhaps it is time to post that again...I would if I could find it.
I'll have a look Will, but I cant quite remember which document it was.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:28 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

Derailed, merged, deleted.
Same stuff, different day.


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Old 06-22-2011, 07:37 AM
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Re: MLM Top 100 being discussed.

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Chris,

A few months back you posted a link to a document about MLM, and how it works.

The whole aspect of the 'sometime employment' was discussed.

Mayhaps it is time to post that again...I would if I could find it.
Wil, can you remember an exact phrase from the report? Even if it's part of a sentence. I've been able to find pages just by Googling a sentence fragment.


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Old 06-22-2011, 07:43 AM
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1 to 3% is a figure showing those that earn the top money, but you guys have it cut and dried, black or white that 3% are successful, and 97% are a failure.
What about the people that only want to earn enough to pay for their products, or those that only wanted to earn $300 a month and achieved and so on? They are all in the 97% so called failure group.
There is no such thing as a 3% success group and a 97% failure group, or any percentage you want to state. Its bullshit.
I can make this real simple.

1) How many people do you have in your group (total)?

2) How many people in your group earn "top money" (please indicate a figure of what "top money" is)

I will do the math for you.

Doyle, here's your chance to shine!
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:49 AM
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Wouldn't it be wonderful if it was?
Thank you for the question and the opportunity to respond.
But as usual, let us correct the incorrect insinuations made in that one sentence.
1. I didn't say or imply that.
2. For those that receive benefits, it is not overpriced, it is the cheapest solution they have found.
3. Our product is not marketed as a cure for anything.
We sell a natural product which contains beneficial nutrients as described on our website.
Glad we were able to clear that up.
1. Correct, it was a sarcastic question.
2. For those that perceive benefits it is the cheapest solution for those not bright enough to look on the shelves in the produce section of their local grocery store.
3. Many misleading statements have been and are made implying that it cures physical maladies. Up to implying that it is considered a medicine in Australia.

Redirect?

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:57 AM
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Let's make it easy. Start with three of mine.
I'll be waiting.
Kerry
PS, you never answered my question about why you 'hide' behind an anonymous handle? What are you hiding? Just curious.
You are asking me to waste my time posting things that any reader here could find for themselves? Yeah right.

And since I'm not selling anything and I'm not scamming anyone, what difference does it make what name I'm using? How would I know that you are using your real name?

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Old 06-22-2011, 08:05 AM
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Are you Ok?
I'm terribly concerned for your health.
It's been an hour, and evidently since you haven't produced dozens...
Your heart hasn't been beating!
I hope it wasn't the sugar.
Once you are resurected, take a breath, we are waiting.
My last response to one of your posts only included a couple of your deceptive statements. I'm sure anyone who has visited this site for more than a day or two would quickly run out of fingers if they started counting.

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Old 06-22-2011, 08:05 AM
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And since I'm not selling anything and I'm not scamming anyone, what difference does it make what name I'm using? How would I know that you are using your real name?
You better be careful with this guy.

You don't want one of his goons from the maintenance crew to pay you a visit.

Those guys are usually some pretty big fellas!
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:55 AM
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it doesn't cure chronic pain....did I say that??
You are seriously a pathological liar. Try reading the signature that is at the bottom of your posts.

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Old 06-22-2011, 09:03 AM
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It was like a 12 page explanation, with graphics...predominately blue...it may have been a thread you started to discuss it...over course the thread got derailed...nothing new there.

We are still discussing the top 100 right?

I think its from this site (lots of good information)
www.dsa.org

and in particular, industry statistics:
http://www.dsa.org/research/industry-statistics/
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