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Old 04-28-2011, 07:56 PM
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Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

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"If you look at the past 60 years of data, the number of tornadoes is increasing significantly, but it's agreed upon by the tornado community that it's not a real increase," said Grady Dixon, assistant professor of meteorology and climatology at Mississippi State University.

"It's having to do with better (weather tracking) technology, more population, the fact that the population is better educated and more aware. So we're seeing them more often," Dixon said.


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A very early example containing the basic motif and many of the elements of the tale is some 25 centuries old and appears in the Buddhist scriptures as the Daddabha Jataka (J 322).[19] In it, the Buddha, on hearing about some particular religious practices, comments that there is no special merit in them, but rather that they are "like the noise the hare heard." He then tells the story of a hare disturbed by a falling fruit who believes that the earth is coming to an end. The hare starts a stampede among the other animals until a lion halts them, investigates the cause of the panic and restores calm. The fable teaches the necessity for deductive reasoning and subsequent investigation.


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Old 04-28-2011, 08:50 PM
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Re: Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

Whether or not monitoring and instant media makes it seem more relevant in today's world is one thing.

But the title is completely and utterly retarded. The wind, I hate to break it to you, is part of the Earth's climate. It's the same damned thing as saying:
Tsunami Caused By Currents, not the Ocean



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Old 04-28-2011, 09:15 PM
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i copied the title from the original. it could be it was translated or mis-translated from french.

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Old 05-19-2011, 01:00 PM
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Re: Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

from personal view, the wind dont cause tornadoes tornadoes CAUSE WIND!? but as to the insight and the fable about QUANTITY or increased CALAMITY, does that apply also to EVERYTHING the "PROMOTERS of CALAMITY" SUGGEST!?
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:12 AM
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Re: Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

senior, with all due respect tornadoes ARE caused BY wind, umpteen thuosand feet in the atmosphere. one of the first principles of "thermal dymanics" .... two unequal air masses(hi & lo or hot & cold) WILL trade places if at all possible. ie: one of these air masses are not in a sealed box. When these air masses meet one goes up and the other goes down causing movement of air or more commonly known as wind. now if these air masses are large enough and fairly equal in size and you mix in Gulf moisture we now have the main ingrediants for a mezo-cyclone which when conditions are perfect will produce a funnel cloud and sometimes just sometimes these funnel clouds hit the ground and are then catagorized as Tornadoes. point being that these conditions start with air movement/ wind.
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Old 05-20-2011, 06:25 PM
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.. Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate. more like "Tornadoes whipped up by HAARP, not climate... Hey man, all the missing rain due west Texas is now in that big river flooding Louisiana and Mississippi ......get use to it mumbles Weather control is part of life. I dont care where you live, ur wx gets jacked with daily

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Old 05-22-2011, 04:45 PM
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senior, with all due respect tornadoes ARE caused BY wind, umpteen thuosand feet in the atmosphere. one of the first principles of "thermal dymanics" .... two unequal air masses(hi & lo or hot & cold) WILL trade places if at all possible. ie: one of these air masses are not in a sealed box. When these air masses meet one goes up and the other goes down causing movement of air or more commonly known as wind. now if these air masses are large enough and fairly equal in size and you mix in Gulf moisture we now have the main ingrediants for a mezo-cyclone which when conditions are perfect will produce a funnel cloud and sometimes just sometimes these funnel clouds hit the ground and are then catagorized as Tornadoes. point being that these conditions start with air movement/ wind.
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so hot and cold AIR causes tornadoes!? earth warm/outer space cold!? and you forgot to include the global warming angle!? yes or no!?
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:54 PM
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http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/23/nb...o-urban-areas/

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Roker also offered a theory on why tornadoes are seemingly touching down in more urban areas as of late. His answer: Climate change.

“And you know look – yesterday, or the day before yesterday, we had the tornado in Minneapolis,” Roker said. “We have had these tornadoes and earlier this week we had a tornado in Philadelphia. And so, you know our weather, or climate change is such now that we are seeing this kind of weather not just in rural parts of our country, but in urban centers as well.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/05/23/nb...#ixzz1NFKYPuWK

funny shit. who was it that said haiti earthquake was climate change? i forget.

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Old 05-23-2011, 07:56 PM
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Pat Robertson said that "a pact to the devil" caused the devastating earthquake in Haiti, and now Danny Glover proposes a marginally less insensitive cause: climate change.

"What happened in Haiti could happen to anywhere in the Caribbean because all these island nations are in peril because of global warming," Glover said. "When we see what we did at the climate summit in Copenhagen, this is the response, this is what happens, you know what I'm sayin'?"


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Old 05-23-2011, 08:18 PM
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Re: Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

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funny shit. who was it that said haiti earthquake was climate change? i forget.
Hmm...

I could have sworn that all along we've been saying 'LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS'.

When you pulled out polls showing that the majority of weathermen don't believe in global warming, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things Al Gore said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things politicians said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things industry PR people said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

Now, when you pull out things actors and weathermen are saying, I'm going to still say 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'



Of course, being the master of shifting the goal-posts, I doubt you would understand consistency.

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Old 05-23-2011, 08:52 PM
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http://climateprogress.org/2011/05/2...itical-decade/

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The study documents how the weather is already becoming more extreme in Australia — worse droughts, worse deluges, and worse heatwaves — and warns of “Abrupt, non-linear and irreversible changes in the climate system.”
https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/as.html

21,766,711 (July 2011 est.)

and the effect on the world if australia burns more or less coal? none. australia is not relevant. china, india, russia.

china is burning coal around the clock to build windmills for moonbats like you.

http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/125776/enlarge



Caption: China has huge reserves of coal, much of which is very low grade and highly polluting. Slum dwellings in Suihua, Heilongjiang Province emit coal smoke into an already highly polluted atmosphere.

you want to give science and math lessons to somebody? start with your own leaders.

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Old 05-23-2011, 09:19 PM
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http://climateprogress.org/2011/05/2...itical-decade/



https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat...k/geos/as.html

21,766,711 (July 2011 est.)

and the effect on the world if australia burns more or less coal? none. australia is not relevant. china, india, russia.

china is burning coal around the clock to build windmills for moonbats like you.

http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/125776/enlarge



Caption: China has huge reserves of coal, much of which is very low grade and highly polluting. Slum dwellings in Suihua, Heilongjiang Province emit coal smoke into an already highly polluted atmosphere.

you want to give science and math lessons to somebody? start with your own leaders.
What exactly is your point?

That scientists agree that global warming will have significant impacts? That Australia will suffer because of global warming? That China is producing windmills? That Australia has a small population?

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Old 05-23-2011, 09:43 PM
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you, as a tax payer, are paying for constant discussions, by your leaders, about carbon taxes, cap and trade, global warming, blah, blah. you don't have anything you would rather spend your money on? couple of sheep, perhaps?

carbon taxes in australia will have no effect on anything, anywhere. these experts and politicians need to find real work to do.

it does matter what china does, but in case you haven't heard, there is only one party there, and not much dissent is allowed. if the chinese party leader wants to burn coal, everybody will breath the smoke and like it.

now, you think we need cap and trade in samoa?

populatiion: 193,161 (July 2011 est.)

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Old 05-23-2011, 10:07 PM
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you, as a tax payer, are paying for constant discussions, by your leaders, about carbon taxes, cap and trade, global warming, blah, blah. you don't have anything you would rather spend your money on? couple of sheep, perhaps?
Of course we are. That is what they are there for. The overwhelming majority of Australians want a carbon emissions trading scheme and the political discussion in Australia reflects that. What would you rather they talk about? Our PM's birth certificate? Who's been getting blowjobs and where? Where Muslims are allowed to build mosques?

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carbon taxes in australia will have no effect on anything, anywhere. these experts and politicians need to find real work to do.
They will have a real impact on Australia. We have the highest per-capita emissions in the developed world.

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it does matter what china does, but in case you haven't heard, there is only one party there, and not much dissent is allowed. if the chinese party leader wants to burn coal, everybody will breath the smoke and like it.
China acknowledges that climate change is real. They are not stupid, and they are well aware of how delicate their food supply is. China is extremely vulnerable to climate change, and the Great Chinese Famine is still well within living memory. China disagrees with the west over who should bear the cost of mitigating climate change.

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Old 05-23-2011, 10:18 PM
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it's worse here. unemployed men steal all the copper wire and pipes out of foreclosed houses, to sell to the chinese, who sell it back to us as windmills and other finished products. in the meantime, our moonbat messiah is off on another european vacation. why don't any of those scientists or al gore tell us the carbon footprint of the president, family, staff, security, cars, airplanes . . . ?

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Re: Tornadoes whipped up by wind, not climate

Tornadoes are caused by temperature differences in the atmosphere, the greater the tempereature differences the more violent the storms, tornadoes and hurricanes.

However Greenhouse gases resist temperature changes and make the atmosphere more evenly warm by trapping the heat more evenly. Less temperature change means fewer less violent storms. But for some reason that isn't catastrophic enough for Global Warming propogandist, so we are told the exact opposite.

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Hmm...

I could have sworn that all along we've been saying 'LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS'.

When you pulled out polls showing that the majority of weathermen don't believe in global warming, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things Al Gore said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things politicians said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

When you pulled out things industry PR people said, we said 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'

Now, when you pull out things actors and weathermen are saying, I'm going to still say 'Who gives a fuck? LISTEN TO THE SCIENTISTS.'



Of course, being the master of shifting the goal-posts, I doubt you would understand consistency.
Are you saying Weathermen aren't scientist? Well that must mean that Climatologist aren't scientist either, and therefor Climate change can't be based on science either.

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Old 06-16-2011, 01:38 AM
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According to Senior Fellow Climatologist Dr. Richard Lindzen at MIT and lead IPCC Scientific Reviewer, "Every book on Meterology and Climatology says the root cause of violent storms like tornadoes, hurricanes and cyclones is caused by temperature differences in the Earth's atmosphere. Primarily the temperature differences between the polar and tropical regions of the Earth. And the upper and lower levels of the Earth's atmosphere. But in a Global Warming world caused by greenhouse gases the exact opposite should happen, because greenhouse gases trap and redistribute the heat in the atmosphere more evenly. Therefore the temperature differences are even less. So there should be fewer and weaker tornadoes, hurricanes and cyclones, not more."


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