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Old 03-10-2011, 08:36 AM
yellow123 yellow123 is offline
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LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

My wife called BBB in Minnesota and informed her that Dan Miller address: 1944 Catalina Dr. WoodBury Minnesota,55125 TeL; 612-605-8640 Rating (F).Had many compliant's and Dan Miller ignored the letter compliant's sent by BBB.


Dan Miller using Merchant Name LeadNetPro and Click Marketing Woodbury. He is been changing Merchant name due to his bad business Practice. Fraud!!


I purchased a Program from LeadNetPro called LeadNet Pro on Feb 3 or so and then attempted to MAKE IT WORK according to their ADVERTISING.

THEIR SOFTWARE - LEADNETPRO - IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE PHONE CALLS FOR ME AND SEND OUT EMAILS

AFTER INSTALLING THEIR SOFTWARE. . . I could not get it to work. I phoned immediately and informed them that it was not working.

My complaints were mainly:

A. THE VOICE FILES WERE GARBLED. NO ONE COULD UNDERSTAND THEM.

B. THE EMAILS WERE NEVER SENT.

THEY NEVER FIXED THESE PROBLEMS. AFTER ONE WEEK, TONS OF LOST TIME AND MONEY ON MY PART, I ASKED TO BE CANCELLED OUT AND my MONEY RETURNED.

I WAS MET WITH HOSTILITY, more excuses AND FINALLY TOLD that they had a NO REFUND POLICY.

HOWEVER ANY MERCHANT in the USA under UCC1 of the FEDERAL CODE of LAWS of the United States HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THEIR PRODUCT PERFORM AS ADVERTISED AND THAT THIS OVER-RIDES ALL THEIR FEEBLE ATTEMPTS to DEFRAUD a CUSTOMER with UNSATISFACTORY Goods and/or services, which I suffered.

THEREFORE, I EXPECT ALL MY FUNDS TO BE REFUNDED.

MIKE MATHIESEN

PS. FYI, We are also going to file complaint to General Attorney in Saint Paul Minnesota to get his business shut down or investigate his business practice.


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Old 03-10-2011, 07:00 PM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

No need to shout, we're right here.

That business certainly does have a number of files at ripoffreport.com. Then again, just about any business has one or two of those!

Still, yes it looks like LeadNetPro has a very dodgy recent history.

Unlike many internet scammers, however, this one has a name and address. My humble advice would be to pursue them in civil court, though that may just leave you with a handful of hefty lawyer's bills. It sounds like you may have to get in line to sue them.



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Old 03-24-2011, 01:03 PM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

I have been operating a business out of my home since 2003 and what Lead Net Pro is doing with telephones is the same as what spammers have done with email 15 years ago. Any success people have with this system will be short lived and I will tell you why.

To start, Lean Net Pro is a web based application that searches google using key words provided by the user. It visits each website and looks for something that looks like a phone number. It then calls the phone numbers and plays an automated message.

People don't like automated messages and they most certainly don't like to receive them repeatedly. Because I have a couple of websites, I receive a barrage of nuisance calls from this system each day. Because of that, the chances of anyone selling me anything that uses that system is zero.

The second reason the Lead Net Pro is doomed to fail is because it is not in compliance with the laws and regulations that govern telephone broadcasting. At the beginning of each call, it has to identify who is calling, the reason for the call, and a method of opting out. None of the calls I have received offer this. In fact, I just received one from Mark Ross who had the caller ID blocked. In talking to these telephone spammers, it became obvious that the people behind LeadNetPro are instructing people to do things that are illegal.

The sad part of what they are doing is they are creating a situation where they are pissing off so many people that new regulations will be introduced that will make it harder for honest home base business operators to earn a living.

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Old 06-12-2011, 06:15 PM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

Thanks for the warnings. I've been approached and wondered if this was a rip-off or whether it really works. Too bad there are so many people that only care about themselves and how much money they can bilk out of those that are really trying to market a legitimate business.

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Old 06-13-2011, 07:52 AM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

I am unfortunately a member of LeadNetPro, in fact I am direct to Dan Miller the owner of the company. I am not active and if you read further you will learn why.

Here is the plain and simple truth:

Almost everyone involved with LeadNetPro does not really know or care about how the software actually works...they only care about selling it and they will lie, exaggerate and mislead in order to accomplish that. Don Gillette is one of the worst offenders. He has absolutely no honor and has made numerous false claims. Then he has the audacity to call himself a "Top Producer." In reality he is a piece of shit. Do not do business with him.

Fact: When you use the emailer....you are almost always guilty of SPAM. Do not listen to their crap about "reverse email marketing"....it is still SPAM. In fact....Just Host stopped doing business with LeadNetPro...because they were not SPAM compliant. I believe LeadNetPro purchased their own servers so they can continue to send emails and SPAM at will.

Fact: The Phone Broadcaster....can only legally be used to call business. Not home numbers....not cell phones. That makes it very limited.

Fact: The scraper tools do not extract golden leads.....far from it......they extract raw lead data. There is a huge difference. Do not believe their lies. If you type in the term "foreclosure" for example...you will not generate pure foreclosure assistance leads. You will extract Lawyers, Law Firms, Loan Agents, Loan Brokers, Loan Modification Specialists, Bloggers. Realtors...etc. as well as a couple of people who may need foreclosure assistance. If you send them an email...you are SPAMMING. If you use the phone broadcaster and contact them at home... or on their cell...you are braking the law.

I believe that if a sale can not be made honestly...it should not be made at all. If everyone believed that...there would probably be no such thing as LeadNetPro.


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Old 06-14-2011, 08:28 AM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

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I have been operating a business out of my home since 2003 and what Lead Net Pro is doing with telephones is the same as what spammers have done with email 15 years ago. Any success people have with this system will be short lived and I will tell you why.

To start, Lean Net Pro is a web based application that searches google using key words provided by the user. It visits each website and looks for something that looks like a phone number. It then calls the phone numbers and plays an automated message.

People don't like automated messages and they most certainly don't like to receive them repeatedly. Because I have a couple of websites, I receive a barrage of nuisance calls from this system each day. Because of that, the chances of anyone selling me anything that uses that system is zero.

The second reason the Lead Net Pro is doomed to fail is because it is not in compliance with the laws and regulations that govern telephone broadcasting. At the beginning of each call, it has to identify who is calling, the reason for the call, and a method of opting out. None of the calls I have received offer this. In fact, I just received one from Mark Ross who had the caller ID blocked. In talking to these telephone spammers, it became obvious that the people behind LeadNetPro are instructing people to do things that are illegal.

The sad part of what they are doing is they are creating a situation where they are pissing off so many people that new regulations will be introduced that will make it harder for honest home base business operators to earn a living.

With all due respect...that is not how the LeadNetPro Software works. I do not wish to defend LeanNetPro...if you read my post you will learn that I have a huge problem with them. However...the software does not work the way you described.

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Old 06-14-2011, 07:06 PM
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I am unfortunately a member of LeadNetPro, in fact I am direct to Dan Miller the owner of the company. I am not active and if you read further you will learn why.

Here is the plain and simple truth:

Almost everyone involved with LeadNetPro does not really know or care about how the software actually works...they only care about selling it and they will lie, exaggerate and mislead in order to accomplish that. Don Gillette is one of the worst offenders. He has absolutely no honor and has made numerous false claims. Then he has the audacity to call himself a "Top Producer." In reality he is a piece of shit. Do not do business with him.

Fact: When you use the emailer....you are almost always guilty of SPAM. Do not listen to their crap about "reverse email marketing"....it is still SPAM. In fact....Just Host stopped doing business with LeadNetPro...because they were not SPAM compliant. I believe LeadNetPro purchased their own servers so they can continue to send emails and SPAM at will.

Fact: The Phone Broadcaster....can only legally be used to call business. Not home numbers....not cell phones. That makes it very limited.

Fact: The scraper tools do not extract golden leads.....far from it......they extract raw lead data. There is a huge difference. Do not believe their lies. If you type in the term "foreclosure" for example...you will not generate pure foreclosure assistance leads. You will extract Lawyers, Law Firms, Loan Agents, Loan Brokers, Loan Modification Specialists, Bloggers. Realtors...etc. as well as a couple of people who may need foreclosure assistance. If you send them an email...you are SPAMMING. If you use the phone broadcaster and contact them at home... or on their cell...you are braking the law.

I believe that if a sale can not be made honestly...it should not be made at all. If everyone believed that...there would probably be no such thing as LeadNetPro.
I can only say, "Thank you, Mike". I had been doing other research and was reading things like, "Those that post negative things about LeadNetPro are likely competition trying to make us look bad." However, your FACTS are indeed facts - they are SPAMMING. I didn't know about the phone thing. Honestly, though, I was hoping I could upload my own list because I have legitimate leads (folks that I've done business with in the past) and have the phone dialer do that work for me. BUT I don't want to drop $400 into something that doesn't have a legal basis. I wonder how long it'll be before an Attorney General shuts them down. 'Course they won't care, they've made their $$$ so - screw everyone that just came in, gave their last $400 and is now broke AND with no tools to help them market.

I know we're not supposed to advertise stuff here so please feel free to PM me any LEGITIMATE tool that can assist. I Know that phone calls are the most effective but I HATE making calls - and it's so time-consuming. I've had zero luck with just online marketing. Leads? Trash. Traffic? Yeah, right - I get traffic but it's the same guys looking to build their own businesses - they're not interested in something else (usually). I'm ready for something that really generates GOOD traffic, GOOD leads and gives me GOOD tools that I can use to actually convert traffic and leads to real business.

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Old 06-22-2011, 09:28 PM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

I believe that you can use a phone broadcaster to call people that you already have a business relationship with....even at home. I could be wrong....you may want to double check. Even if I am right....stay away from LeadNetPro.

Thank you for your feedback! I am glad I could help.

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Old 10-13-2011, 12:50 PM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

There are phone broadcasters that you can just add talk time and use and as far as lead extractors, you can get all the extractors for less than $200.

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Old 12-14-2011, 09:45 AM
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Re: LeadNetPro" STAY AWAY FROM THIS SUCKER

Don Gillette also has another business out of NY called Approval Warehouse. Go to http://www.complaintsboard.com/compl...c495956.htmlhe

It appears that LeadNet.Pro and Approval Warehouse are getting away with peoples hopes?

Lead net does not have many positive reviews? Does anyone out there know of an honest money making niche business in the Lead generation, consumer no credit check financing or Lease/Equipment financing business? Or very low cost bulk email target marketing service?


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