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Old 12-02-2010, 09:02 AM
danrush1966 danrush1966 is offline
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Why isn't the DADT study released online?

Ask yourself...why isn't the DADT study released on-line for the American people to read?

What are they hiding?


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Old 12-02-2010, 09:15 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

In the other thread you started on this subject, a link to the study is posted...

Looks pretty much online to me!



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Old 12-03-2010, 04:38 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

So let's look at some interesting pages shall we liberal morons?

Page 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,

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“There are already gays and lesbians in the military.”
Typically, between 60% and 80% of Service members we talked to at information exchanges forums and small focus group discussions believed they had served alongside a gay or lesbian Service member. Many shared their belief that today the military performs its mission with gay men and lesbians and repeal would have no affect on performance—either personally or as a unit.


Some "believe" they have served, not "known" that they did and since they "did not know." It wasn't a bother. Now let's see how they'd feel if they had to take a shower in the same small bathing space as an openly gay and flaunting pecker checker and see what they think. How many gays were prosecuted in the past 4 years for violations and crimes under the UCMJ?
104.
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Some Service members expressed a view that repeal is not only the “right thing” to do, but is one of the freedoms for which they fight and die. Others believed all Americans should have the right to serve their country, including gay men and lesbians
So it's also right to impose on gays the same restrictions and codes against sexual relations, contact and behavior as is enforced against heterosexual servicemembers such as...

1. No boyfriends/girlfriends occupying the sleeping room or living space.

2. No sexual relations in living quarters, especially among two people in a room shared by another room mate.

3. No outward expressions of sexuality when in uniform.

Gays have had no trouble serving without having to flaunt their sick crap. The last thing anyone wants to deal with is an openly gay and flaunting male in a female skirt.


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Some Service members viewed the issue of repeal as a “generational” one with the younger generation being more accepting of open homosexuality.
Cadets and midshipmen in particular told us that serving with a gay man or lesbian is “no big deal.
Can't wait to see the first base Gay Pride Day. what a sickening display that will make for the children and dependants of our troops.

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Some Service members pointed out that lessons learned from the racial and gender integration of the U.S. military apply to repeal of
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Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.


No, they do not. Plenty of angry Black Americans have come out against the gay attempt to piggy back on their civil rights movement. Unlike Blacks and woman, which produced more benefit than harm, homosexuals allowed to flaunt their sickness openly in the ranks will produce more harm than benefit.

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They explained how repeal would mean
the end of living a lie for them and their families. Gay and lesbian Service members also expressed how repeal would increase their personal effectiveness and promote unit cohesion, because they can now be honest with their fellow unit members.
So...telling you that you have to abide by regullations you'll obviously break is living a lie?

We don't change the military on a whim to satify a bunch of sexual deviants, we change it when the benefits outweigh the harm.

Now...let's look at this....page 64

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Question 68 & 69. If Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell is repealed and you are working with a Service member in your immediate unit who has said he or she is gay or lesbian, how would it affect…
Task Cohesion: The negetives and no answers out numbered positives.

Social Cohesion: The negetives and no answers out numbered positives.

Combat deployment responses: Overwhelmingly negetive, little positive.

Sharing shower facilities: Overwhelmingly negetive, little positive

Sharing living quarters: Overwhelminly take some action to address it. Little to say nothing.

What will the repeal do to readiness?

Overwhelmingly negetive, little positive.

All through the study you will find that the numbers supporting repeal are not as strong as we've been lied to by the Administration, the media and the gay loving (probably gay himself) Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

The military has no plan yet to deal with repeal because they don't know how it could not do severe harm to the military structure. The government should not be openly endorsing a sick sexual deviancy, especially when so many homosexuals have been prosecuted in a span of 4 years that clearly proves they can't be trusted to abide by regulations.

No chaplain, no servicemember should be told by the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs that they have no right to serve or practice their faith or beliefs or have to sit and have the idiology of f**ggotism forced down their throats.

Unlike African Americans and Women, homosexuality is a sick sexual disorder. If we accept that openly all over the country then where does it stop?

There is a point at which the bow breaks and our military is that point. We can not risk the harm or damage to our force by bowing down and accepting this deviant behavior, allowing it to flaunt without strict control and the threat of swift punishment. We mold the military to best defend America not satisfy deviants craving for the right to march through our bases dressed in dresses and leathers.

The study is being portrayed falsely by the President, the media, the Congress and the Joint Chief's Chairman and they will reap whatever harm they sew.
rvice Members’ Perceptions of Impact of a Repeal of
Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell on Task Cohesion

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Old 12-03-2010, 05:55 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

Dang, interesting stuff. Thanks.

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Old 12-03-2010, 06:09 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

The service chief's live in reality but their Chair lives in a fantasy dream world of his own.

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The chiefs of the Army, Marines and Air Force warned Friday that implementing a repeal of the policy banning gays from serving openly in the military would be more difficult than a Pentagon study has suggested, challenging the assessments of other top military officials in the administration.

Gen. James Amos, the Marine commandant, offered the most critical comments in a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and recommended against a repeal at this time. He said the Marines would carry out a change in policy if Congress votes for it but said the shift has a "strong potential for disruption at the small-unit level."

Citing statistics in a recently released Pentagon study showing a majority of combat Marines were concerned about a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," Amos said he could not turn his back on their opinions.

"(A repeal) will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat," Amos said. "We asked for their opinions, and they gave them to us."

"Their message is that the potential exists for disruption of the successful execution of our current combat mission should repeal be implemented at this time," he said.
And then there's the other blind bat, the CNO...

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Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Gary Roughead, by contrast, recommended repeal, citing statistics showing most sailors are not concerned about the potential change. As for those worried about a repeal, he said, "I believe these concerns can be effectively mitigated through engaged leadership."
He believes? I'd like to see him try and impliment a homosexual orientation class and see what happens.

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Old 12-03-2010, 06:10 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

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Of course the bible was used for decades to keep women down and blacks as slaves...
wrong again. It was the driving force to end slavery.

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Old 12-03-2010, 06:19 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

Here's a few comments from a news site on DADT....

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To all my fellow military, obvious being a Corpsman with both Navy units and Marine Corps Infantry, plus seeing other Services Bases and mentality I offer this for you to ponder: What happens when the young man, who is now openly gay, and desires to be a crossdresser, goes to the E Club in a dress, wig, make-up, heels and nails? Bet the Civilians and our senior leadership hasn't thought of that? Don't let them dress up, discrimination??
They're not considering that are they?

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what will a formation of marching troops look like now? will lipstick be allowed next
Yes...will they be allowed to drag on base?

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After spending most of my life with the mil and DOD, the Chiefs are correct. The survey is smack. There will be huge problems and it will be costly in defense and money. Good people will become bad. I'm telling it like it is. This is far from the greatest thing since cotton candy. All, just because some want to be recognized for their lusts.
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It does need to be implemented slowly, and with planning. I know the Brits, and many other countries just "did it" without any problems, but the U.S. Military in my opinion is different. DADT should be lifted though.
Slowly? Yeah, 4 years for those who don't agree to get out. Then what kind of military will you have left?

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No, because homosexual behavior in and of itself is immoral and you are asking the military to condone it. There are consequences for everyone else when they engage in immoral behavior.
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175ranger - I was in one of the first units i nthe Navy to have women deploy with us and 70% of them came back or got out when they got pregnant. DADT cannot be comapred to either desegregation of women i nthe service. It is absolutely not the same.
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We are slowly (not nearly completely) rising in consciousnes from those archaic notions
Yeah right pal, Athiests are a pathetic minority in this country.


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Old 12-03-2010, 08:28 AM
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Re: Why isn't the DADT study released online?

Is wrecking the United States Military worth the risk?

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/...ask-dont-tell/

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The 17-year-old law states: “The presence in the armed forces of persons who demonstrate a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability.” Importantly, the phrase “don’t ask, don’t tell,” appears nowhere in the law.
The law didn't say....don't ask, don't tell" it was basicly a guideline for gays to serve under the UCMJ, abide by regullations and accept the consequences of violations.

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The law simply says that those who commit certain acts should not be permitted to join the armed forces. It’s not about “who they are.” It’s about what they do.
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Mr. Gates and Admiral Mullen now argue that Congress must repeal the law immediately or the courts will intervene. That too is a phony argument. Section 654 has withstood more than a dozen legal challenges since it has been on the books. The case now pending in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals is but the most recent test. The O-Team’s “legal eagles” need only dust off old files going back to the Clinton administration to see how the law has been effectively upheld in the past.
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Nearly 25 percent of those now serving – and as many as 32 percent of Marines – say they are likely to leave the service rather than be assigned to live with and serve beside active homosexuals.
32 percent of the Marine fighting force deciding to quit will be a destructive loss of professional tallent.

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Old 12-03-2010, 08:30 AM
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Combat veteran Ollie North is correct, and non-combat-career-politician, Roman-Catholic-who-ignores-his-church's-moral-teachings Mullen is simply saying what he is told to say to ensure his power and retirement. Historically, military organizations are only successful if they have a sense of moral cohesion based upon the historic values of their society -- when those historic values are abandoned, the cynicism of the morally bankrupt military causes it to implode upon itself, even as the society becomes decadent. Our military is constitutionally based upon Judeo-Christian values, and when those values are abandoned by our society -- and such abandonment is imposed upon the military, the whole fabric is destroyed and defeat is inevitable.
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