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Old 03-09-2010, 12:42 PM
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Amazon order cancellation scam

I received email from "Amazon.com" that says that my recent order got canceled. Of cause I did not remember any undelivered Amazon orders so I checked Amazon.com directly instead of clicking on link in email. And as I suspected no recent or canceled orders.

Link goes to littera-sr.com/excavating.html So be careful.


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Old 03-09-2010, 02:58 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

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I received email from "Amazon.com" that says that my recent order got canceled. Of cause I did not remember any undelivered Amazon orders so I checked Amazon.com directly instead of clicking on link in email. And as I suspected no recent or canceled orders.

Link goes to littera-sr.com/excavating.html So be careful.
Did you do any reviews of products on Amazon? That's how they nailed me. But like you, I'm not stupid and checked the same way you did.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:12 AM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

I received another one today.

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Dear Customer,

Your order has been successfully canceled. For your reference, here`s a summary of your order:

You just canceled order #754-7617092-9101609

Status: CANCELED

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ORDER INFORMATION
Sold by: Amazon.com, LLC

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Because you only pay for items when we ship them to you, you won`t be charged for any items that you cancel.

Thank you for visiting Amazon.com!

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Earth`s Biggest Selection
http://www.amazon.com
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:23 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

they wanted your account, thats all :)

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Old 03-11-2010, 01:56 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

I just ordered videos from Amazon this week, so I'm glad you mentioned this. I would have assumed that my order was cancelled.

By the way, I've also received e-mails claiming that they're from paypal and ebay. They say something like, "your account may be suspended", then it asks you to type in your username, password and social security number in the e-mails. I didn't fall for it.

But some people probably did.

I even got an e-mail last year that claimed to be from the I.R.S. saying that I was due a tax refund. (I had already received my tax refund, so I knew right away it was a lie.)

I don't understand how these con artists can keep doing this and not feel bad about their actions. How do they sleep at night?

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Old 03-11-2010, 05:43 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

Darn, I guess I should check before I click, or should I say my husband should. He got this e-mail today, and since I sometimes use his account he thought maybe I ordered something and clicked the link. He noticed it didn't direct to Amazon, but was trying to go somewhere else (readyweight.com I think), except the server was not found.

Ugh...not sure what we should do next...

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Old 03-11-2010, 05:50 PM
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Ugh...not sure what we should do next...
Sweep your computed for viruses and spyware.

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Old 03-11-2010, 08:34 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

BorsZ I almost bought your "stupid Ebook" until I saw you are from New Jersey-lol. Now I KNOW the book is a scam. I am from New Jersey too and I am a scam-lol. Serious-ly ,the website is hilarious! Well done too. Although I didnt see a link to "western union" money to China.

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Old 04-28-2010, 09:41 AM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

Here is an Amazon endorsed scam:

Amazon Buyer Scams


The following shows how Amazon encourages unscrupulous buyers to obtain free merchandise at the expense of their reseller community. The Amazon reseller can expect to provide merchandise for buyers, ship the merchandise, issue a refund, and not receive the merchandise back from the buyer. The reseller may also be rewarded by not being allowed to sell on Amazon when the buyer scam is complete. Here is how it works:

Feedback blackmail

Amazon encourages customers to rate their transactions with the Amazon Resellers. The buyers are also encouraged to communicate with the sellers prior to the writing of any negative feedback so that the seller can respond and correct any problem with the item. Unfortunately, over the past year more and more buyers use this contact to demand a full refund of the item without returning the item. They threaten to write a negative feedback unless their demands are met. Other sites provide a method of informing the site management when a buyer threatens the seller with this action. Amazon offers no such methodology and in fact does not encourage or provide a method to show resellers which buyers repeat this activity or constantly try to cheat resellers. No buyer rating systems is encouraged.

Resellers have noted a sharp increase in attempts by buyers to claim that merchandise is damaged, in poor condition, or did not arrive. Savvy resellers find that when they ask the buyer to return the merchandise or threaten to have the post office investigate that the buyer drops the claim. Some buyers will place a bogus bad feedback without sending an email in advance so that the seller can correct any problem. They assume that the seller will refund the sale and let them keep the merchandise if they remove the feedback. They probably do not realize that Amazon gives resellers a negative rating for any and all refunds. Re******* the buyer at this point would merely substitute one negative rating for another.

Buyer manipulation is not the most serious buyer scam method. Experienced buyers quickly learn that other methods to receive free merchandise have become nearly 100% guaranteed:

Amazon’s A-to-Z Guarantee

When customers have a problem with a transaction made through Marketplace Payments by Amazon they may request that Amazon arbitrate the situation. They are asked to first contact the seller to give them a chance to address the issue at hand. The prior contact request is only a suggestion and is not required by Amazon. Many buyers now go directly to the A-to-Z Guarantee page to submit their claims.

Several years ago, claims appeared to be researched by Amazon and obvious bogus buyer claims were handled by Amazon. Amazon either refunded the buyer’s money or denied the claim. Legitimate claims seemed to be mostly handled directly by the sellers prior to any A-to-Z submission. At least that was the experience of the author of this site, an Amazon Reseller since 2001.

For the past few years, nearly 100% of all Amazon A-to-Z Claims have been automatically decided in favor of the buyers, regardless of any evidence presented by Amazon Resellers. The refunds now are deducted from reseller funds held by Amazon. The buyer keeps the merchandise and has no obligation to return the item. The buyers are not required to return the merchandise to Amazon or the seller. They are not required to show the damaged, copied media, or wrong merchandise to Amazon or the reseller. The reseller is not allowed to see whether the so-called suspect item was what was actually shipped.

The author of this site was a victim of the above scam. The buyer claimed that a DVD was “recopied media”. This seller explained to Amazon that the item was a factory-sealed DVD. It was a standard Amazon listing item that happened to be in the public domain and is available from several manufacturers. No copyright infringement was possible. Since it was sealed and there was no way of determining the actual quality of the item, this reseller told Amazon to refund the full cost of the item. Amazon issued an automated warning to the seller about selling “recopied media” apparently based on the buyers unsubstantiated claim. This bogus claim was used as a “prior warning” to terminate this Amazon Reseller when a second bogus claim under the following scam method was submitted by a buyer.

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Typical reseller complaint:

"Amazon's "A-Z Guarantee" provides no protection to sellers, and in essence means that any unethical person with a credit card can get anything they want for free!"
http://www.complaints.com/Amazoncom-...ee-127135.html

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The Amazon Reseller Community Rules Scam

Amazon has an extensive list of rules that the resellers must adhere to in order to sell merchandise on the site.

Prohibited Content is listed:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=200414300

Buyers are instructed by Amazon to report any violations:

Report a Community Rules Violation If you receive an item from a third-party Marketplace seller that may be in violation of our Community Rules, report it to us via our Contact Us form. Select "Report a Community Rules Violation" from the drop-down menu, and include all relevant information. All reports are investigated thoroughly, though for privacy reasons we do not share the results of our investigations. “

Amazon states for the buyer that they do not share any results [or information] of any investigation. That includes informing the buyer so they may know what sale was being investigated and whether the item the buyer is complaining about was what was actually sent. Even if a buyer was required to send the item to Amazon, Amazon would not be able to verify that that was what the seller sent to the buyer. The seller has no way of knowing what item was in question and is not allowed to defend themselves against a scammer.

Thus the buyer receives free merchandise and the cost is refunded. If, as happened to the author of this site and many other resellers, the buyer claims that the item was “recopied media”, the reseller is suspended permanently by Amazon. Amazon uses this no tolerance, no verification policy to destroy legitimate long-standing, highly rated resellers and award these scammers merchandise stolen from these resellers.

Amazon provides a form so that scammers may easily obtain their free merchandise that resellers have no recourse to prevent. They merely click on the “contact us” in the Report a Community Rules Violation as shown above on the Amazon.com website to obtain the following form:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/reports/contact-us

To:
Amazon Reports

From:


Subject:

Report a violation of our rules

Comments:



Please visit Your account to check on the status of your orders.

Order #:

Comments:









Thank you for reporting a community rules violation. Please provide as much information as possible.

Seller Nickname:

Order #:


Listing ID (0000-Z-000000):


Comments:



During the several weeks in October 2009 surrounding the period of the reseller destruction event described in the letter to Jeff Bezos on the main page of this site, the following was observed. A search on the subject “recopied media” produced the Amazon prohibited contents list which at the time included the above form and instructions on the same page. Amazon has since moved the form to a separate page. It is no longer the top search result. The scammers may now be well educated and do not require the search information in order to continue the scam,

A large number of those surveyed regarding these policies of Amazon and how they are being utilized to eliminate Amazon Resellers suspect that many of the scammers are other Amazon Resellers. If this is true, these resellers could order merchandise, obtain a refund for the merchandise, resell the merchandise, and eliminate a competitor reseller in one swoop. Amazon claims to provide extensive tracking procedures to insure that a suspended reseller cannot rejoin the Amazon Marketplace using a different name. They check credit cards, ISPs, zip codes, and any other relationships to suspended accounts to prevent the reseller’s return. If Amazon were interested in eliminating scams or protecting their legitimate resellers, they would be implementing these same procedures to try and identify buyers and resellers who are behind some of these scams.

Refunds are bad!

During 2009 Amazon initiated an additional evaluation criteria for resellers. They began tracking this negative rating methodology for resellers on the basis of the number of refunds they issued to buyers. These rating are not compared with the actual orders but rather they were like other rating criteria were judged only against positive ratings by the buyers who chose to submit a positive feedback.

These ratings are utilized as one evaluation criteria to suspend or stop Amazon Resellers from continue to sell on Amazon. This has proved especially detrimental to newer resellers who have yet to establish enough positive feedback to offset a few refunds. Amazon does not discriminate as to what may have caused the refund. Any refund for any reason is considered to be negative. This includes buyer remorse when the buyer cancels the order before it is shipped or before or after it arrives. Once Amazon has collected their fees, any refund is bad for the reseller. If the buyer also submits a poor feedback rating, the reseller will receive a negative report in two different lists for the same transaction.

Amazon Resellers are becoming more and more reluctant to give buyer refunds, even when they are deemed to be legitimate. The negative Amazon refund evaluation has to be weighed each time against a potential negative feedback.

Amazon provides no discount on the shipping and handling costs to the buyer for multiple items from the same seller on the same order. The author of this site began offering buyers a rebate for a portion of the shipping and handling costs for additional items ordered. It was stopped as soon as it was noted that even these rebates of a few dollars were treated as being full refunds on the refund negative rating list.

Amazon encourages their buyers to return any merchandise for a refund as part of their “Buyer-Centric” mantra. They then turn around and punish the resellers who actually implement this policy. Catch 22? Amazon hypocrisy?

For further information visit amazonresellers.info


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Old 05-03-2010, 05:44 PM
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Re: Amazon order cancellation scam

This is kind of an evolved version of the very popular Paypal email that urges you to click on a link to go and update your information.

Nowadays one has to check for the sender every time and make sure that the email is actually coming from the right domain, and even then, if you do not recall any recent transaction you should ignore the link and go to your account as you guys did.

My mother also received one of these Amazon fakes but thankfully she had the presence of mind to ask us first precisely because she did not remember having placed any recent orders.

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Old 05-21-2010, 06:15 PM
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thank your for the information


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