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A blatant example of actual racism
Rare is it the Cwywfster rails on about racism. But, when nothing else but the color of the man's skin is being considered...I believe it's blatant racism.
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PRINCETON, NJ -- Since the start of his presidency, U.S. President Barack Obama's approval rating has declined more among non-Hispanic whites than among nonwhites, and now, fewer than 4 in 10 whites approve of the job Obama is doing as president.
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I bet most of you liberals reading this thought I was using the above as the example of racism. But, the quote below shows this isn't the case.
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In his first full week in office (Jan. 26-Feb. 1), an average of 66% of Americans approved of the job Obama was doing, including 61% of non-Hispanic whites and 80% of nonwhites. In the most recent week, spanning Nov. 16-22 interviewing, his approval rating averaged 49% overall, 39% among whites, and 73% among nonwhites. Thus, since the beginning of his presidency, his support has dropped 22 points among whites, compared with a 7-point loss among nonwhites.
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So, Whites supported Obama by a blistering approval rating....that has dropped a solid 22 points in less than a year. Tells me had these whites been the racists, Obama's approval number would never be at 61%, in fact, he wouldn't even have been elected.
So, where is the racism then?
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Given the 17-point drop in his approval rating among all U.S. adults, it follows that Obama's support has declined among all major demographic and attitudinal subgroups, with one notable exception -- blacks.
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So...every single demographic...hispanic...white....and all attitudinal subgroups have seen a loss of support as well. Who is the exception?
Racism? I ask my Scam friends. do I dare even suggest it?
Darn right I do, he's not losing support in the Black Community for one reason and one reason only. He's Black!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124484/Ob...s-Down-39.aspx
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11-25-2009, 06:28 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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Rare is it the Cwywfster rails on about racism. But, when nothing else but the color of the man's skin is being considered...I believe it's blatant racism.
I bet most of you liberals reading this thought I was using the above as the example of racism. But, the quote below shows this isn't the case.
So, Whites supported Obama by a blistering approval rating....that has dropped a solid 22 points in less than a year. Tells me had these whites been the racists, Obama's approval number would never be at 61%, in fact, he wouldn't even have been elected.
So, where is the racism then?
So...every single demographic...hispanic...white....and all attitudinal subgroups have seen a loss of support as well. Who is the exception?
Racism? I ask my Scam friends. do I dare even suggest it?
Darn right I do, he's not losing support in the Black Community for one reason and one reason only. He's Black!
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124484/Ob...s-Down-39.aspx
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We all knew this going in... I remember so many people talking... "If he screws up things, will he be held accountable or will they use the race card?"
Well, it was barely 4 months and even on here all you heard is "You dont like that a black man is in office"...
I dont give a shit if he was from Martian decent... He is clearly not doing the job he promised his voters nor is he doing a presidents job period.
1 Term Pony.
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11-25-2009, 06:42 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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Well, it was barely 4 months and even on here all you heard is "You dont like that a black man is in office".
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Those who use that language and those that hold onto Obama merely for the color of his skin are racists. Sorry, if they don't like that, it's reality.
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11-25-2009, 06:44 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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Those who use that language and those that hold onto Obama merely for the color of his skin are racists. Sorry, if they don't like that, it's reality.
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It absolutely is... No one points out more the color of his skin than Liberals. They also resort to calling their voting base as "the black vote" or "the Hispanic vote".
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11-25-2009, 10:51 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
Are we talking about the ADL on this thread?
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11-25-2009, 01:56 PM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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It absolutely is... No one points out more the color of his skin than Liberals. They also resort to calling their voting base as "the black vote" or "the Hispanic vote".
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With respect double P it's from my experience it's the right that likes to play the race card and claim he only got vots on PC'ness. It's starting to sound like an excuse for losing the last election, one that you weren't entering very strong to start with and left with sarah palin.
However, I have an idea why people say what they do.
As to Racism from the right. While I know they certinaly do not reflect the entire right wing or even a small minority of it. The fact remains that even on this forum you do not denouce the racists or those who use racists comments. While I doubt you support rasism, it is hard sometimes to distingish between an overally enthusastic rightwinger insults when they are said in response to what an obvious racists says. The racists and the objector both dislike Oboma but you should only respect the reasons of one of them. When the stand side by side how do you tell them apart when they are both saying the same thing?
The birther group has also not helped matters either. I'm very surprised that this idea is actually be politically cultivated and that anyone would actually support it.
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11-25-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
The color of the mans skin has nothing to do with it.
It is the man himself.
He was woefully under-qualified for this position.
The fact that blacks acted and act as total lemmings speaks volumes for that demographic.
There, I interjected with nary a racist staement.
Fooled you all didn't I.
Fish in a barrel I tell ya.
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11-25-2009, 02:04 PM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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The color of the mans skin has nothing to do with it.
It is the man himself.
He was woefully under-qualified for this position.
The fact that blacks acted and act as total lemmings speks volumes for that demographic.
There, I interjected with nary a racist staement.
Fooled you all didn't I.
Fish in a barrel I tell ya.
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"Blacks act as total lemmings". Surely a sweeping statement on the basis of race?
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11-25-2009, 02:10 PM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
Thistle, on the basis of the poll itself, I speak.
Good try though.
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11-26-2009, 07:48 PM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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When they stand side by side how do you tell them apart when they are both saying the same thing?
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First, you can look at ANY demographic side by side. White, Latino, Asian, young, old, female, male, Republican, Democrat, Independent....support has dropped significantly across each and every single demographic I listed. If only one or two of these demographics were going south, you'd have an argument. As it's almost completely across the board with overwhelming clarity, you don't.
Secondly,....when Obama supporters stand side by side, how do you tell them apart? Who in the Black communities oppose his positions on school choice programs, the decision to hold trials in New York, or gays in the military? It seems clear there are just as many....perhaps even many more..who remain supportive of Obama merely because of his skin color. How do we tell THEM apart?
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11-27-2009, 08:36 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
You seemed to have missed the point and instead choose to take the example and try to refute it or make excuses. This is not an accusation or an insult. This is not something that you need to defend you political party against. No excuses are required here in fact they shouldn't be used at all.
You claim that the right is not racists. I agree with you. I just providing you a reason why it is often hard to differntiate between one person screaming "bow monkey bow" and the guy next to him that decides to echo his response without thinking. This is not a logic thing, I'm not claiming that if we all sat down and thought about it we'd come up something different.
I'm just saying this is possibly why people think the way they do.
The easy way to stop people from thinking negitivly is not to ignore it any longer and to stop making excuses as if it makes it ok. You know it's doesn't.
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11-27-2009, 11:12 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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You seemed to have missed the point and instead choose to take the example and try to refute it or make excuses. This is not an accusation or an insult. This is not something that you need to defend you political party against. No excuses are required here in fact they shouldn't be used at all.
You claim that the right is not racists. I agree with you. I just providing you a reason why it is often hard to differntiate between one person screaming "bow monkey bow" and the guy next to him that decides to echo his response without thinking. This is not a logic thing, I'm not claiming that if we all sat down and thought about it we'd come up something different.
I'm just saying this is possibly why people think the way they do.
The easy way to stop people from thinking negitivly is not to ignore it any longer and to stop making excuses as if it makes it ok. You know it's doesn't.
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You are correct. But it is so much easier to be a follower than be a leader. that way you can say, well he started it. We have become such a dormant society that we no longer care. We could very well become the next extinct dinosaurs.
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11-30-2009, 05:03 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
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You seemed to have missed the point and instead choose to take the example and try to refute it or make excuses.
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Try to refute it? You're claiming it's hard to tell the actual genuine opposition to Obama policies and the racists who oppose on skin color only. This isn't a point, its an attempt to dismiss all opposition as racist, your attempts here clear as day, Spector. And it's a nice day!
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This is not an accusation or an insult. This is not something that you need to defend you political party against. No excuses are required here in fact they shouldn't be used at all.
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Bull honkey!  Opposition is labeled racist, unprecedented, unjust, unwarranted. The pictures in these sites and in the media do not show real people genuinely upset over this unprecedented expansion of government by Obama's poorly staffed and unqualified Administration. Republicans have been portrayed as racists, bigoted, afraid of a black man, afraid of equal rights, afraid of a fair playing field.
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You claim that the right is not racists. I agree with you. I just providing you a reason why it is often hard to differntiate between one person screaming "bow monkey bow" and the guy next to him that decides to echo his response without thinking.
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The man next to him isn't an echo, how many of these events have you been to? Do you know what the Republican Party platform is? I agree, it was clouded lately, however, does anyone seriously think the current proposals and policies of the Obama Admin NOT fly dorectly in the face of Conservative Republican government philosophy? Didn't you EXPECT Republicans to oppose given this platform?
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This is not a logic thing, I'm not claiming that if we all sat down and thought about it we'd come up something different.
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You're saying it's hard to sit down because the other side is racist and standing as an echo. And you're not even close to correct.
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I'm just saying this is possibly why people think the way they do.
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And I'm saying you're incorrect...wrong.
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The easy way to stop people from thinking negitivly is not to ignore it any longer and to stop making excuses as if it makes it ok. You know it's doesn't.
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The easy way to stop opposition...to stop people from thinking negatively about your..government run health care plan, trillions in deficit, many more trillions in debt, the fact that Obama tried to smash this health care plan through Congress before August's recess, the fact that they're still lying about costs, especially misleading is the fact that this doesn't kick in for 5 to 7 years but is being paid for immediately with higher taxes and drastic cuts in Medicare....the easiest way to stop opposition is to label the opposition extreme. Dismiss it as disingenuious, pretend it isn't serious, ridicule it's members, defame the message. That is exactly what has been attempted here.
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11-30-2009, 05:29 AM
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Re: A blatant example of actual racism
He's proven us right on the idiot charge.
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